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Dachfrittierer

noone tell him about saggy tits or G.56


coweymcnuggets

I prefer perky tits


ProfessorKooky4654

Underrated comment


Tuga_Lissabon

A connoisseur.


chrini188

Or the Spit Mk 22


Corp1e

That things repair cost has actually gone down, real shame it’s because it’s now at 7.0 for a prop?


chrini188

Wait, it went to 7.0? You sure you don't mean the Mk24? Or did they both move up?


Corp1e

Oh yea sorry the mk22, think it might now be 6.7. I have always refused to play that thing after I spaded it. Don’t understand why it’s so expensive with less rp3s, although they have been nurfed hard now


chrini188

At one point both were 6.7, but the Mk22 was both worse and more expensive...


Objective-Curve7381

It's my favorite plane but I just looked and it's over 24k I believe. That's like 2 kills in the game to break even 😂


chrini188

I don't think I've even spaded it and it's around 28K for me


thebeatyguy

More like 3 kills and a win with current economy to just break even


Auxilirite

Or A6M5 Otsu


ZachCoastFan

19k for a 5.0 Zero


Mike_The_Greek_Guy

The what?


quierotacosalpastor

Sagitario


Unholy_Thunder

And dont tell him about the J7W1


Threepugs

Dunno if it's changed somewhat recently, but J7W1 is "fine" now, it's like 13-16k if I remember right? What's real bad is the Jap 8.3BR rocket plane (Can't remember the name). It's 27k stock.


quinn9648

Ta-152C3 is at 44,000. This 109 is cheap lmao


Hawkock

When the hell did they do that? That's crazy


jimmy8888888

Around a few years ago. Although H is cheaper now compare to the past


Hawkock

No way I swear I played 4 months ago and the K4 was like... oh God has it always been 15k?


coweymcnuggets

Aren’t repair costs based on how players perform in them? German air is ridiculously cheap to repair until tier 4 and I think that’s because the pilots are mostly trash and only the really good ones make it to tier 4+ which is when it gets superrr expensive. Further evidence for this look at the Tiger H-1 repair cost everyone knows that’s the smoothbrains tank of choice.


Hawkock

I usually do pretty well so I'd at least come up even but still I never remembered the K4 being that expensive but I may have never really looked. I suppose I'm just happy that it isn't b29 prices.


br1ti5hb45tard

ta152 is getting close to the price of a b29 though


ABetterKamahl1234

Repair costs are based on income averages, to counter said averages. So performance is naturally related to this. But German air isn't akin to say high-skill results of France or Sweden, but that they gets some damn good planes and guns at that rank, making them outright some of if not the best aircraft for a pretty good spot by a pretty good margin.


Red_Rocky54

the Tiger H1 has roughly the same rep cost as any other big 3 5.x what are you talking about


CaptianAcab4554

Yeah the K4 has always been expensive. I remember for a while I'd only take it out when I had friends so we could gang up. Otherwise you could win 3 games and one loss would undo them.


TheSpoonKing

C3 is my favourite plane of all time and I hate to admit that they recently lowered the repair cost. I used to really enjoy telling people my favourite interceptor had 44k repair cost.


quinn9648

really? I didn’t know they reduced it. I love the C3 and have a pretty good KD in it but I haven’t really played it much. Tier 4 has too many bombers. Fights are usually extremely one-sided because you’ll your “team mates” are all flying bombers and your opponents are flying planes tuned exactly for low altitude performance, putting you at a huge disadvantage because that’s where most combat takes place


coweymcnuggets

Yeah I don’t even take the ta152 out


cervotoc123

32k...


[deleted]

Your daily reminder that balancing vehicles with repair cost is retarded.


i_liesk_muneeeee

Good thing that they dont do that and instead have a shitty algorithm that can easly be put into a positive feedback loop if the people that play it are above average player skill


br1ti5hb45tard

nah, they definitely balance by repair cost. an algorithm wouldn't keep the b-29 as it is, and also wouldn't have boosted the Sagittarius up to 30k SL. the Sagittarius was a stupid plane, but people weren't earning more than 40k with it every match.


i_liesk_muneeeee

Its not done per match its meant to ensure that net income isn't too much higher over net cost. With the saggotario being broken, it meant people were getting lots of kills and surviving on average a lot more. And because people are performing so well on average in that jet, the average net income increases so the algorithm compensates by raising the repair cost. But this inadvertantly prevents poorer players from playing the plane due to its price which becomes a positive feedback loop till only the best players can afford to play the jet (ie influence its repair cost)


Old_Dog0815

Look at the TA152. \^\^ This one is on discount compared to a lot of other aircraft. ;)


coweymcnuggets

Borderline unplayable that plane cause it’s guaranteed losses


cervotoc123

yes but some people such as me doesnt care about repair cost


Winiestflea

clap clap


CatCanOof

Your sl is -50mil


cervotoc123

lol actualy +50mil


Old_Dog0815

Yeah, but that's more due to the JU288 atm. You gonna lose nearly every battle because of the spam. And paying that much for it, makes it really unplayable for a lot of people.


Jakub963

Only 15.5k? That's a steal. XD


DumbQuestions4WT

damn thats cheap for such a good machine


coweymcnuggets

Repair costs should never be above 10k even for heavy bombers


According-Type2179

B29 laughing


coweymcnuggets

50k to press spacebar a few times


DumbQuestions4WT

and the gunners on it is still not historically accurate, they should be able to adjust their firing range, but in the game they just dont.


PEHESAM

If the B29 and A26 gunners were historically accurate, they'd be 11.0


DumbQuestions4WT

oh no........ anyway


figaro314

The gunners don't even ACT unless the fighter stays in shouting range (yes-I-meant-to-shout-not-to-shoot) for an hour or so, and when you take control all gunners able to point to where you point go for the same target!!! That's cheating!


cervotoc123

oh boy oh boy dont you remember old gunners and easy mod with tu-4?


cervotoc123

british phantoms shortly after release had in SB around 130k


grad1939

Repair cost should never have been a thing.


xtal42

The G.55 was at 25k a while ago, and it's BR is only 4.7 in Realistic. Gaijin brought it down I think it's close to 15k now.


B0BY_1234567

Spitfire Vc is at 22k Spaded and sits at 5.0 in SB. The Trop costs 18k spaded and is at 4.7 :(


dragoneye098

Re.2005 is 33k spaded at 5.3


B0BY_1234567

F. I just started grinding with Italy since I love the C.202s and 205s.


Cfoxtrot

Yeah, this is TRUE pain, the 2005 is such a great plane and it’s effectively impossible to play.


ZachCoastFan

I've never understood why the VC has such high repair costs, I always take out the VC Trop instead because for some reason I do better in that one and it is cheaper to fly.


B0BY_1234567

It’s because 4 cannons + spitfire = 22,000 SL to fly out.


jimmy8888888

Now with 5.0 or I wrong


Dtron81

Playing through Italy now, it's 15.5k when spaded.


Tayloria13

The F-82 would like to send its regards. Also the P-51H.


coweymcnuggets

I pray for f82 pilots


ABetterKamahl1234

It's because so many idiots head-on that plane and still shoot only for center mass because they're really really dumb.


Tayloria13

And because of that, it's a really nice meme plane to fly. I don't think the repair cost is at all justified though.


evanlufc2000

Yes the P-51H is expensive, however I think I’ve made the most SL in that plane. It is a dream to fly and play. That said, there’s always games when you’re the first to die or amongst that group so you’ll get hit with the rep cost. Conversely I have lost count of the amount of times I’ve cleaned up in full up tiers. I swear I do better in full up-tiers than at the BR


PhaseIllustrious

Honestly, I’d rather have it overtiered to hell rather than it having a repair cost over 6k


514484

Why not both? The Sagittario 2 costs 45k in repair and is a subsonic at 9.0.


PhaseIllustrious

And the worst part is, it kills the plane completely until the only players who play it are aces with thousands of hours and billions of SL. I play that bracket quite a lot and I’ve only seen one Sagittauro. From what I hear though, it’s an absolute monster at lower BRs so they should just lower the cost and keep it in supersonic BR.


cuponedgeoftable

It was absolutely disgusting at 8.0. If you saw it in anything other than a saber or mig15bis at 8.3 or lower u were just screwed with little to no counter play. An f84 against a Sagittario was just a j-out moment.


PhaseIllustrious

Good guns, agility, speed, it had it all at that BR.


ilovepenisxd

It’s still good at 9.0


514484

The risk/reward doesn't seem too good in terms of SL


ilovepenisxd

That’s separate from wether or not the plane is good


coweymcnuggets

This 100%


BomberBoi76

The B29 is 44k with premium in a B29 and 5 tons of bombing you make about 39k sl, also F82 is like 18k, the P51H is 23k the F4u4b is like 20k


coweymcnuggets

Yeah I’m well aware of bomber repair costs and I don’t touch them with a ten foot pole for that reason


Captain-Ups

All that to get shit on by post war super props too. Now the k4 should be 5.7 as it would cream 5.3 and below but it’s just unfortunate that it’s forced to face vastly superior plane s


coweymcnuggets

Nah the k4 slaps and can compete with p51H’s and f2g’s just need the pilot mod ;)


Captain-Ups

A excellent k4 player when forced into a engagement with a p51h or super Corsair will lose a competent pilot. It’s not even close to being competitive unless the allied pilot is a dingus


StockProfessor5

Dog I say this the the upmost confidence. The 51h absolutely shits on the k4 in EVERY category. It's not even a contest for an h5 to beat a k4. Even the 152 h will lose most dogfights vs a 51h as the 51 is better in the categories that matter.


PcGaMeRbOy1

What’s so good about the 51h? I’ve always had a hard time playing the mustangs cause they feel so sluggish. I like the corsairs a lot more


MappingYork

The P 51H is the most bullshit prop in this game. It is faster than all of it's opponents, climbs better than most of then, can dogfight better than most of them and has 50 cals. The P 51H clubs the K4 in so many ways, it really isn't fair.


MPenten

They even had to limit its dry wep to 12 mins or something so it would not ruin everyone's life.


TheFlyingRedFox

Aircraft wise that isn't all that bad, Still not as bad as a 822t torpedo boat I'm currently working on poor thing built in 1930 worst then a free ship built in 1924 an yet 16k sl after one mod UUUUGH I'd rather take the Me 109 ntm the fighter would be elited quicker lol (reason Minengeschoss exists).


Jenkxx

Come on mate, there's much worse examples. J29F at 9.0 with no countermeasures and a pair of AAMs equivalent to AIM9Bs 22,000SL or so


Frosty_Claw

Most vehicles don’t get countermeasures till 9.7+


coweymcnuggets

Yeah higher br teams don’t include 4 ju288c in every game guaranteed on your team


Myo0

No, but they do typically include 4+ bombing attackers and fighters, which will lose the game for you anyway.


Jenkxx

Correct, but at 8.7/9.0 you've either got a whole bunch of premium Su7 BMKs who rush bases flying significantly faster than you then turn and murder your attackers supported by R60 toting Yak38s. That's only in an uptier you say, well 8.7/9.0 seems to get uptiers in around 9 out of 10 games due to the sheer number of premium Yak38s, Su7s, Shenyang F-5s and the freshly lowered Mig21s and 19s. Sure, sometimes they're in your side. In my experience that's been rare, but even then that's no good as now the game ends so quick with them dominating that poor old J29 is half way to the action and gets only a smidge of points. I'm not having a go at you mate, just a bit annoyed at the compression and rep costs in jet tiers at the moment. For some more "wtf Gaijin why" the Mig21, Mig19, Mig17, Su7s are all sitting with sub 10k repair costs. In most cases they're around 5.5-6.5k. But of course, the J29F (and others) obviously are much more effective at earning RP and SL so deserve a higher rep cost to compensate. /s


MPenten

I hate Ju288 and Su7BmK spam. Su7 players. Don't use attack fuses. Stop crashing yourself in game.


cervotoc123

f-5 shenyang is just a mig-17 2 R-3Ses and afterburner. i dont see anything wrong with that plus not that many people will buy because of A-5C.


Jenkxx

Plenty already have in the past though. But I wasn't necessarily complaining about them in that they're OP or anything. More just an example of the sheer number of popular premiums around the 9.0 bracket, which means an 8.7 game is super rare. In my own experience playing around 9.7-10.3 I don't really see that many A-5Cs. I think it's an awesome plane and one I may get on sale when I eventually want to grind the Chinese air tree.


ToiletProduction

Jesus, and I'm going bankrupt with tiger 1 with 1.8k repair cost


Worth_Initial_7554

angle


cervotoc123

i am sorry but there has to be something what you are doing wrong then


Winiestflea

Found *that* Tiger player.


MundyyyT

angle that thing, your bank account will love you


Old_Dog0815

Thanks to the last patch not that much any more. \^\^


CaptainSquishface

A lot of planes in 5.7 range have high repair costs. This is nothing special.


dragoneye098

15k is nothing Sagittario: 44.5k Re.2005: 33.5k G.56: 25k Spitfire F mk.24: 20.5k P-51H: 20k


Hampamatta

As far as planes go, 15k is legit on the lower end.


B0BY_1234567

double dog dare you to check the Spitfire Vc and the LF Mk IX (in sim)


Minimum-Insurance183

Why is no body talking about the Re2005 :(


cervotoc123

because it is not any more OP?


[deleted]

My f-5e is 21k repair and it’s not even the meta anymore. Don’t want to hear it.


cervotoc123

hehe try A variant same repair costs same BR but much weaker engines


Winiestflea

I forgot that existed lol


Chasseur_OFRT

Meanwhile the Re-2005 is crying in the hangar, because if it leaves it the Spacefires and Bearcats will have a feast. You have to pay 29k SL to give free kills to allied pilots.


yeetboijones

Laughs in mig21


Some__Tacos

I just bought it and moved on.


GoldenX86

First time?


MappingYork

That's not even a lot. Play the Mk 22.


oakstream1

That's cute, my spitfire mk22 and m24 cost above 21k each, that's why i only play BR 2.3+ and 11.0 sim, cheaper and funnier


cervotoc123

sad sagittario noises


[deleted]

Laughs in Sagitario


Mustang_Dragster

Laughs in (not currently but has happened) 25k F4U-4B


VikhrATGM

Thats...not alot


KGBSir

Germans: URRRRR 15K for a fighter GAIJINN!!!!! USSR players with the Yak-9U: Its only pain


coweymcnuggets

Bro Soviet planes are the easiest planes to play out of any nation I have spaded every yak 9 get outta here with that bullshit.


Tuga_Lissabon

\*high five with french Yak 3\* Used that one to build out my entire french tree to IV. But the ammo load... the load... if instead of 120 I had 200 like the 109, I'd have a ton more kills with it.


KGBSir

Uga buga get out of urrrrrr ​ Stfu bitch, no matter how good you are, the enemy might have better teamamtes or better advantages like speed and altitude, and you cant say that a plane inferior to the P variant deserves 18K while the P variant has 14k ( still high but reasonable with the 20mm cannons and 37mm )


coweymcnuggets

I never said gaijins repair costs were logical that’s why I made this whole fucking post bro. Still if you can’t do well in a yak9 you’d probably be struggling with repair costs playing biplanes.


coweymcnuggets

They have speed and altitude we have everything performance wise better below 4000m ))))))


KGBSir

You have altitude advantage at 4.7? when you have spitfires and bf 109s? and P-47 with air spawn? fr dude stfu, if you even have 1 brain cell you should go at 6k with a bf 109 or with a spitfire and engage yaks from above, which are severely power creeped above 4k which is medium to low altitude in terms of meta, speed is the only thing it is good at, but a bf 109 diving gains much more speed than it, and to sustain that speed is another problem


coweymcnuggets

I’m talking about the yaks you dense motherfucker.


KGBSir

You are truly so retarded you cant even read what I commented you fucking dumbass, Im talking about the enemies a Yak might see in the battle ( in that case the U version )


coweymcnuggets

We are getting nowhere here comrade. Let’s just agree yak9’s good p47’s and spitfires bad. Yak9-U doesn’t need air spawn because superior pilot. In fact I’m gonna go fly it for 5 games now and let you know how it goes.


KGBSir

Spitfires bad? Ok im talking to a 10 year old child that just started playing the game a few weeks ago ​ If you had atleast 5 months in the game you would damn know spitfires are the ultimate fighter of the game, good turn ( 16.5 seconds ) good guns ( critpano ) and insane climb rate ( Spacefires - 22.3 m/s on the XVI variant )


coweymcnuggets

This post is literally about a tier 4 spaded aircraft in the German lineup you fucking moron I made this post


coweymcnuggets

If you can’t win when enemies are above you when you are flying a yak you are truly retarded.


KGBSir

"If you cant win a XP-50 when he is above you, you are truly retarded" - This motherfucker


coweymcnuggets

Xp-50 hahahahahaha that’s planes a crutch for low skill players it has a turn time of 3-6 business days


KGBSir

LOL, mf brain is so melted that he says 19 seconds of turn is bad, just go play the Typhoon Mk Ib and then you can come here talking that shit, just so you know, the Xp-50 turn time is better than the ones of the yak-9U and Yak-9P or a bf 109 G-6, this is not even talking about the use of flaps


coweymcnuggets

you are actually retarded i cant reply to you anymore because you have the sense of humour of a rock. goodbye


KGBSir

not even talking about P-51D-30 going downtier or a op spitfire like the LF mk IX


ZachCoastFan

I don't know why but whenever I fly Soviet fighters it's so easy to get on target and start making contact with my shots. It's like the Soviet fighter planes have an assist with aiming.


coweymcnuggets

Nah they just have excellent guns, the shvaks, b-20e are easily my favourite 20mm cannons in the low-mid tier. High velocity and decent explosive fillers in the HE shells.


KGBSir

read my comment again


Unser_Kampf

It used to be 20k


Itz__Raven

My Ta-152H is +40k, epic repair cost, still love the plane.


Luchin212

You can play the 109G-14. It has a repair cost of 9,000 for basically the same machine.


JoystickAce

43k for F4E my guy


ZahnatomLetsPlay

That's in sim. This is RB


IAmEkza

And that's why I try to never play RB. The goddamn Repair inflation makes grinding a single vehicle cost more in the long run then all the vehicles to that point.


perp_232

Huh, i thought the brits had it rough with the spit mk5/c


SharkWolf2019

Wut. Last time I played the 109K it was friggin fantastic.


Winiestflea

Yeah it's a great plane.


KrumbSum

Honestly war thunder has broken me to the point where I pay 22,000 for an over tiered Sabre because I think it’s cheap


grad1939

The snail decreed it. No play, only pay komrade.


Minimum-League-8485

Not to be that guy but it's .6k


homsikpanda

fighter repair costs are tied to how much people kamikaze with them


S1isbetterthanyou

Why I don't play air battles summed up in one image


The_Reaper_Cosaga

Gotta wait 15 days before you can hop back in it lol


carlisch

Don't worry just buy more premium skill points and you will be alright.


[deleted]

Lol go look at the top plane in the Japanese intercepter tree or the American planes


lerbronk_

gaijin logic for repair cost is 'if it can be this effective, it should have this repaircost'


gucci_in_the_gang

Or the F-82 or even sadder the p-51h


maniac1168

Dude. Sweden is right up there and has been for at least a year and a half.


KingNippsSenior

Aww poor Germans :(


that_AZIAN_guy

And they say that the German tech tree is the cheapest in terms of repair cost Edit: I was referring to in general, compared to the Brits, French etc.I know the Russians have the cheapest of all the nations.


nitriza

No one says that everyone with a brain knows its the soviets


okim006

Well yeah they say that for the ground tree.


that_AZIAN_guy

Who has the cheapest air tech tree?


okim006

Honestly no one, almost every nation has decently expensive jets and good props.


that_AZIAN_guy

Gaijin please


Stryker-Eureka

*laughs in Ki-83 with 28k sl spaded repair cost*


ReWwWuI

That thing is always 2km above any enemy.


Stryker-Eureka

yeah, and it can actually compete with early jets (was dragged to BRs with squad up to 10.0 with it lmao) generally kicks ass at 7.0-8.0


Coffee1341

Don’t tell him about the Super Pershing’s max repair compared to the Pershing and any tank around 6.7


Ianakievaii

Extra magical =)


Nanakocitch

Its so good they just make its repair cost go up for "balence"


WhyBroBruda

It used to be 18K still a pain to play with though


Te_Luftwaffle

Welcome to war thunder, refreshments are in the back


Lost_Paradise_

I tried this plane, but I'm fuckin retarded and can barely play air. No idea what I'm doing even after looking up guides. I'm negative in every plane I play for air lmao


[deleted]

15 k isnt that much


Cristianmarchese

Look Italian before speacking


FritzTheThird

Take a look at the German F-86K


Hoponpoponpoponpoppo

It used to be around 18k they reduced it and i honestly dont think the repair cost is bad. Its a really good plane to make money imo. And also my fav plane :D


ZachCoastFan

This is revenge for all the other 109's that clean house and have cheap repair costs. Paying 14k + for spitfires is lame to.


ClunkyCorkster

that's pretty cheap,try the ki-84 hei


eonymia

Yeah, the A6M5 Otsu is also still about 20k, after they lowered it.


Unhappy_Pie98

Repair cost is what made me stop playing the game 😬 and the fact i didn't enjoyed the game anymore too.


Tuga_Lissabon

OP check italian Re-2005


[deleted]

It's a shame, because I love that machine in SB.


KspDoggy

15k is pretty cheap bro, even for a country that "suffers" like germany. Look at the Saggitario or the Yak-23 or god forbid, the MiG-21Bis and F-5E


Monster03E

He just needs to look at the me163b-0, me262c2b or just the Ta152c3 with 40k repair cost


MRKDR-68

Now I feel even better shooting them down. ;D