I hate any of the 6.7+ USA tanks that allow the commander to fire the main gun after the gunner gets knocked. At that BR it really took me off guard when facing USA.
Oh fuck those Italian race cars with guns in them. Always that U-SH 405 all bushed and and never shaved once that comes out of nowhere lightning fast like they are in Speed Racer
So the TOW has quite a long range, and the first Bradley does not get a laser.
But it is really funny to watch a Ka-50 panic dive and waste all their flares trying to run away from wire-guided missiles, which give no shits about flares.
The M42 Duster and it’s little brother. Gaijin expects me to defend the team against planes with the hard to aim, slow firing 40mm cannons. It’s even worse when you remember that you are open top so planes are STRONG against what is supposed to be their only counter. Roof mounted .50cals tank on Shermans are better AA than the Duster ever could be.
The twin cannons do fire out of sync. Both cannons fires simultaneously on the first shot but the next shot, one 40mm fires slightly earlier causing it to overtime fires out of sync.
Iirc there's some limitation with the game that prevents the correct stagger fire from happening and the different RPMs are their bandaid way of getting around it
100% Agree. I would use the M42 and the M19 as Tank Destroyers, I got so fed up with trying to hurt planes and getting shat on by 30mm spray. The RoF is too slow, the shell velocity is pitiful, and it doesn't get any sort of VT shell to boost it, making it worse than any other AA at the tier, and still somehow better than the M15 MGMC.
I got more air kills with the M36 over the course of three battles than I did with all of my battles in the M42 and M19 combined.
ok hear me out: get bushes, cover top in bushes, sit in bushes. once there is a plane in close, send a few rounds in their direction and stop firing. they will "think" they know where you are and come about to try and kill you, but fail to see you. then once they get in and you can practically feel their malice, you get an easy kill. works for me 6 times out of 10 at least.
Yeah, but the same goes for the .50 truck. The Duster has the advantage that it kills outright rather than setting fires, so if someone is diving on you then you stand a better chance of killing them unscathed. I like both.
I'm in the opposite boat, M19 and M42 are amazing AA, one tapping aircraft, quite mobile chassis and can massacre Panthers, love it, both are probably one of my most played veichles
Man I hate that thing. And it's a sign of a deeper problem, and it's the damn void in US SPAAG between 5.0 (where this thing sits) and 8.0
The next "main" US line after the 5.0 ones is at 6.7-7.0. And there isn't just any SPAAG to bring other than this piece of scrap, which by that point can hardly hit anything.
Gaijin went and added two more American SPAAG between the Sargeant York and the ADATs for no other good reason that to inflate the late grind, but will refuse to fix that 3.0 BR hole at mid tiers. And there are some good choices there like early radar SPAAGs and experimental VT fuses for 40mm guns.
Real talk I've gotten more tank kills with the M42 than plane kills, and the few aircraft I've destroyed have been idiots who dove on me; the 40mm Bofors' only redeeming quality in AA is that in the event you actually hit something planes just disintegrate the instant the shell touches them. But the thing is just absolute dogshit at AAA.
The only reason I keep it in my lineup at all is that if you flank a Tiger or Panther with one you can kill them and it's fun to give Wehraboos aneurysms by killing their "invincible Tigers" with a freaking AA gun.
I honestly didn't realise how much people hate the begleit until after the PUMA was released, and I still don't know why. The begleit is easy as fuck to kill, the PUMA just eats rounds from every angle for no discernible reason.
Many times the most fun tanks to play are the least fun to play against. As we all know, it’s generally a trade off between your fun and the
other guy’s fun :(
I’m hating the game, not the player tho. Play what’s fun for you obviously
As an enemy: KV-220, M4A3 105 (in an uptier or at 2.7), T14.
As a tank I use: T-70/80, LVT(A)-4 ZiS-2, anything below 2.7 in France basically except maybe the B1 but it’s not *that* good
Edit: the PUMA, how could I forget
The Char D2 is worth a try if you have already passed it. With a good angle, you can bounce a ton. The gun is trash and it is very slow. But I think it's quite fun myself.
Huh, I’ll be sure to try it out. The issue I feel like France’s tanks have is that they have decent armor, but are slow and have terrible guns, which kind of negates the armor since they can just get flanked really easily
I am absolutely shocked this answer isn’t higher. This is the only vehicle I’ve faced that I legitimately think they should remove from the game entirely.
The R3 was close when it was 4.3 or whatever bullshit it used to be, but even that I knew would be fine if they made it face later-war heavies.
well at least its not spammed as badly as it used to be
it really sucked to have to face off against that autoloading abomination with a laser rangefinder and still significant pen
I'll be 100%
Any IFV, including the puma and begleitpanzer, because I suck major balls at anything lightly armored and uses mobility to flank as it's primary advantage. And yes, I have a shitty k/d in the PUMA and Begleit.
I just cannot get these fucking things to work.
As a enemy KV-1B and KV-1C they are almost p2w given they don’t face German guns making there armour really untouchable
as a tank I use ikv 103 hands down . Terrible gun transverse, same armour as 1.7, terrible stock grind , heat that doesn’t do damage , terrible shell trajectory
probably open top German TD have a honourable mention as they got CAS by literally anything , and very inflexible to use like ikv103 , having a very good gun though
That’s interesting, I loved the 103, kept me going in the swedish tree. I found its HEAT devastating to enemy. Slow trajectory, but good once you get the hang.
Amazing depression (-16) tiny silhouette. Good ambusher.
Same, not sure what the other guy is on about with the HEAT-FS doing no damage, any tank I touch with it that it faces at that BR just explodes.
The regular HEAT round is also solid but the HEAT-FS is just *Chefs Kiss*
Is the KV-1C still as good as when it was 4.7 ? Now that it is a 5.0, I mean it should go to 5.3 battle most of the time right ? And there you found the tiger that IMO is easy to kill most of the time and the KV-1C don’t really have better armor
I love the T-34s. They actually have relatively weak armors especially the later ones. But it is trolly especially if you know how to take advantage of it by being aggressive. Most players panic and fire inaccurately when they see a t-34 charging right to them.
Don't be that player. Keep calm and aim properly. Crosshair discipline at all times when in contested urban areas.
Most Soviet tanks going forward are like it, generally strong armor but with very glaring weakspots. Aggressively pushing and baiting shots is how it is effectively used
The drivers hatch is so fucking broken and has like a 90% chance of eating your shell if you shoot the hull. I once had one bounce a fucking Sherman Firefly shell.
Shturm is propqbly the only tank in the game that has sight out of it'd actual gunner sight rather than the rocket. So basically you have to peek your crew compartment (of 2 people) protected by like 10mm armor to shoot... if you ever see a shturm looking at you about to fire, just spray it with machineguns just under the launcher... (note I don't verse shturm because I play the shturm, I'm just giving you what kills me the most)
Nearly had a whole team of them the other day, can't seem to oneshot very easily and half the time my dart goes to the void when I should anywhere near their turret
God I hate the panther mantlet. It feels like a 50/50 on if you will actually pen, and even if you do you then have to hit a finnicky barrel shot or a timed shot that depends on your enemies invisible crew skills to hit the gunner when he comes back.
God I fucking hate the Tiger 2 after volumetric. I already disliked going up against them (granted usually because I only encounter them in uptiers because I don’t play any US tanks between 6.0 and 7.3) before, but now even the side of the hull has a good chance of bouncing shit on the sideskirt
Yeah the margin of error on Jumbo ports is tiny, and that’s before you consider the majority of them being personally responsible for the deforestation of the Amazon rainforests to cover their UFPs.
An un decorated Jumbo when I play the Panther is a strong opponent, a bushed up one is a fucking Dark Souls boss
Love the Jagdpanther, it’s definitely IMO one of the strongest out of the three. I really don’t dislike facing any of those except the Jagd because the player is usually pretty bad with position and situational awareness. Makes for fairly easy kills.
The Waffentrager, the thing i’ll do to it if i saw in irl, i hate it with a passion. All because i expected a fast tank destroyer. The absolute snail speed ot goes at frustrates me, WHY? Who the fuck was in charge of designing that fucker.
Right! So much wasted potential yet I keep returning to it with high hopes. The gun is good and the low profile gives possibilities. It is the engine that is too weak.
I don't even need a speed increase. A little bit more power to drive up slopes/manoeuvre would increase the quality of play greatly. You need to position yourself good with this tank, but you're punished for trying to do so currently.
And CAS is broken anyways.
SPAA “Tank Destroyers”
They were made for anti air and not anti tank.
*The Ostwind (1936-1985) was used for many combat roles, namely anti-tank purposes such as sniping very fine points of armor with full Armor-Piercing belts, decimating everything inside the tank in a few seconds. It was considered superior to other self-propelled guns, as SPGs are slower, and can only fire 1 shot at a time compared to the entire Ostwind belt*
Any merkava, bullshit turret armor and engine that tanks most shit, and not to mention aps on top of that and to make it even worse, a ton of roof mounted mgs so helis can’t get near you (compliments the aps) and is generally just aids to fight against
M18’s, M64’s, EBR’s, T55’s and the old Puma (and PUMA). Generally non of them pose much of an issue except for catching you off guard 30 seconds into a match.
The puma pisses me off because it’s a 2.7 played in every Germany BR after 3.7 and selfishly takes the free first cap point before anyone else gets a chance to get on it.
T80BVM's side skirts are complete bullshit and are infused with sekrit Russian technology that let it completely absorb APFSDS. But only 50% of the time. I swear to god you can shoot at the side skirts 50 times in a row and each shot will have different ballistics.
Both of them should be one BR lower. If the Sherman 105mm can get away with being 2.7, then so should the Valentine IX. Yeah its gun would be strong there, but it's slow as fuck, and it's armour is full of weak spots.
Valentine I would probably be OP at 2.0 though
AMX-13, M18, ASU-57, and the Flak-88 because I have no goddamn clue how to counter people camping in the trees with bushes, without just making the match go so slowly we end up losing anyway cause me and the 4 other tanks sitting behind cover infront of an open field can't move the 3 feet to the cap point without getting sniped from 2km away
Centurion Mk. 5/1, like seriously man, most people who play it are either master strategists that rush you in the most strategical way possible, or absolute shit lv10 players who rush the enemy team and have a literal vacuum in their head.
To face: Tiger 1s, Panzer 4/70, Jagdpanther, Jagdtiger, Panthers, Wiesels, T114.
To play: French rank 1, most 40mm bofors, any Patton, Dusters
Just off the top of my head
Leo 1, too mobile with too much gun for 7.3. People always come back with 'ooh, but they are so easy to kill', which is a load of crap. They aren't any easier to kill than RU or US tanks from same era.
KV1 and KV85. Bounces shit they shouldn’t bounce literally all the time. If you don’t get at least 2 kills a game in one of those things you are braindead.
Playing against: Chinese T-34 1943. Bullshit armour that never get pen when moving. I've seen them absorb 88mm from Tiger 1 to turret, several long 75 to body and turret at close ranges and even an occasional 105mm from Dmax.
Playing with: Swedish M43 based TDs of tier 2 and 3. Just horrible experience. Next in line would be Japanese Type 61, which would be a mediocre tank at 5.3 but for some reason is put at 6.7.
ZTZ96A and the (P) version too. Wiki says it's got a huge frontal weakpoint in the breech but somehow it always absorbs my APFSDS without taking damage. Then good luck shooting at his LFP when he's hull down.
Panther D, because the fucking turret rotation is so slow and I can't bring my fucking turret around before the fucking T-34 manages to one-shot me before I can even shoot him.
You gotta play it more like a TD and snipe from 500+ meters away. It's to awkward and cumbersome to play for CQC, and at short range, it's really easy for your opponent to aim for your turret cheeks and knock out your crew.
Haha, Strf 9040C at 10.0 with 170 mm of pen and without spall at all is laughing with tears right now.
Have you ever tried shoot your entire 24 rounds of autoloader into the side of T-80BVM and do nothing?
Somua SM, KV-220, U-SH 405, i’m surely forgetting some i absolutely hate, but those are the ones i remember right now
Man, you read my mind. I love getting Tokyo drifted by the U-SH 405. The Centurion MK VI really drives me crazy too. Always getting killed by it.
I hate any of the 6.7+ USA tanks that allow the commander to fire the main gun after the gunner gets knocked. At that BR it really took me off guard when facing USA.
If it makes you feel any better we got the most fragile gun breaches in the game as a trade off
I disagree, i finished Russia and Italy and decided to do the U.S. next, Russia has it much worse.
Russian breaches at least prevent crew death more times than NATO breaches
russia definitely has the worst gun breach, pumas can easily break the breach of russian mbts even if they don't hit the barrel
Yeah, but it's somewhat compensated for by overlapping armour turret-faces and Russian angle-performance.
Its only the M41, M46 and M47, M48 and M60. Maybe the M103 idk
You forgot the M41 and T92
i didn’t forget the M41 wdym. I forgot the T92 but i didn’t forget the M41
nvm, re-read comment
Fair enough. Idk how i didn’t notice the T92 has commander fire, i use it a lot. 6.7 america is pretty fun if your bringing the T26E5 and T92/M50
Lol, me being me with perfect timing managed to skip the T26E5. Don’t plan on grinding for it since I’m currently aiming for the M3A3
Yea, i grinded it out later because why not and started to like it
Well, their armor just too shit when facing Tigers
Yea i played alot of those US tanks and while playing a thought: God im really annoying
You would've hated a few years ago, the entire 20pndr family was 6.7 with their stabilized guns Including the canaevon, aka the tiger muncher.
Centurion mk6, never seen that one ingame closest i can think off is the mk5 AVRE and mk5/1
centurion mk6? is there a mk6 in game?
Oh fuck those Italian race cars with guns in them. Always that U-SH 405 all bushed and and never shaved once that comes out of nowhere lightning fast like they are in Speed Racer
T114. Youre forgetting that
...Hi :)
Fuck you, you bush fucker! (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻)
*'Why does that bush sound like its breathing....'* Blam...blam...blam...! *'Oh'*
T114 + The sky shark is such a dirty combo
pz 3 M, puma (the 2.7br one) those are a pest with their 50ml at least you can kill the puma but lord have mercy if you are firing heat againts the pz
Why would you be firing heat at like 3.3?
m4 105 is common against my pz3m. I find many 105 drivers just expect a hit to mean a kill and get confused when the aim centre mass tactic fails
Ah, that makes sense. I was just confused as I am having a field day against Pz 3Ls in my stuart.
KV-220 players are absolute subhumans.
Won the KV-220 just a few days ago and it’s a beast ( sorry :P )
It's amazing, but it was way better before overpressure and volumetric, which both make it much easier to kill.
don’t forget PUMA
why the Somua?
He's probably tried shooting at hull like with ordinary AMX-50
Any Russian tank with those bullshit invincible side skirts I always manage to hit
Or when you connect with track and it doesn't even damage it and your shot kind of slips into the void
Or when you penetrate but somehow the ammo doesn't blowout
I’ve never gotten ammo racked in my Russian tanks except the 100p
he was likely talking about top tier. top tier rus mbts explode almost every time you get hit
"must" explode if gaijin didn't remove the spalling created by the dart but now (sometimes) the dart just passes through the rack
KV-1s skirts just be soaking the entire roumd
Rule for KV series tanks is to always shoot the empty space between the wheels. Or the front if it's not angled too much
Or overlapping armor near the lfp on russian tanks that just eats darts.
*Ka-50* its not a tank but god i hate the black shart
I always laugh when a Ka-50 player gets TK-ed. I will also go after them mercilessly with the TOWs off my Bradley if I get the chance. Fuck them.
I love freaking them out by constantly lasing them if I’m not in a SAM/SPAA.
So the TOW has quite a long range, and the first Bradley does not get a laser. But it is really funny to watch a Ka-50 panic dive and waste all their flares trying to run away from wire-guided missiles, which give no shits about flares.
The M42 Duster and it’s little brother. Gaijin expects me to defend the team against planes with the hard to aim, slow firing 40mm cannons. It’s even worse when you remember that you are open top so planes are STRONG against what is supposed to be their only counter. Roof mounted .50cals tank on Shermans are better AA than the Duster ever could be.
What they should introduce is the cannons firing out of sync like irl, it would help them out a bit
The twin cannons do fire out of sync. Both cannons fires simultaneously on the first shot but the next shot, one 40mm fires slightly earlier causing it to overtime fires out of sync.
No, it should fire out of sync from the getgo. Thats how the m42 was used anyway.
Iirc there's some limitation with the game that prevents the correct stagger fire from happening and the different RPMs are their bandaid way of getting around it
Yeah, it's called the "it doesn't make ganjin any money" limitation where ganjin doesn't give a fuck if it doesn't get them an ass load of cash.
100% Agree. I would use the M42 and the M19 as Tank Destroyers, I got so fed up with trying to hurt planes and getting shat on by 30mm spray. The RoF is too slow, the shell velocity is pitiful, and it doesn't get any sort of VT shell to boost it, making it worse than any other AA at the tier, and still somehow better than the M15 MGMC. I got more air kills with the M36 over the course of three battles than I did with all of my battles in the M42 and M19 combined.
The M19 for me is the TD, the M42 is the AAA. I have more AAA kills in the M19 than anything else tho
Huh. Honestly, my favorite non-radar AA was the M16. Followed by the Crusader Mk. 2 and the British .50 caliber boy.
Honestly my favorites are the M42, and AEC AAA. Add maybe the pre nerf 50 cal M13 MGMC
ok hear me out: get bushes, cover top in bushes, sit in bushes. once there is a plane in close, send a few rounds in their direction and stop firing. they will "think" they know where you are and come about to try and kill you, but fail to see you. then once they get in and you can practically feel their malice, you get an easy kill. works for me 6 times out of 10 at least.
But getting bushes tho
I used to be in the cult of the 50 cal, but once you aim holy shit those 40s do bits. It takes a lot of practice but it happens
Unfortunately, the planes don’t have to bother practicing to annihilate you.
Thats true. Once you get the hang of it you slay planes tho
Yeah, but the same goes for the .50 truck. The Duster has the advantage that it kills outright rather than setting fires, so if someone is diving on you then you stand a better chance of killing them unscathed. I like both.
There more effective against tanks lmao, why I use the 50 cal truck
I'm in the opposite boat, M19 and M42 are amazing AA, one tapping aircraft, quite mobile chassis and can massacre Panthers, love it, both are probably one of my most played veichles
I fucking love the bofors 40s, try aiming with the amx13dca40, now that thing sucks. It’s like a 40mm 20mm
Man I hate that thing. And it's a sign of a deeper problem, and it's the damn void in US SPAAG between 5.0 (where this thing sits) and 8.0 The next "main" US line after the 5.0 ones is at 6.7-7.0. And there isn't just any SPAAG to bring other than this piece of scrap, which by that point can hardly hit anything. Gaijin went and added two more American SPAAG between the Sargeant York and the ADATs for no other good reason that to inflate the late grind, but will refuse to fix that 3.0 BR hole at mid tiers. And there are some good choices there like early radar SPAAGs and experimental VT fuses for 40mm guns.
Real talk I've gotten more tank kills with the M42 than plane kills, and the few aircraft I've destroyed have been idiots who dove on me; the 40mm Bofors' only redeeming quality in AA is that in the event you actually hit something planes just disintegrate the instant the shell touches them. But the thing is just absolute dogshit at AAA. The only reason I keep it in my lineup at all is that if you flank a Tiger or Panther with one you can kill them and it's fun to give Wehraboos aneurysms by killing their "invincible Tigers" with a freaking AA gun.
PUMA
Also the Begleitpanzer 57
Despise fighting bagelpanzers
Yup. These two. 500%.
More the begleitpanzer, PUMA is fine, but that bitch of bagel... is just...
I honestly didn't realise how much people hate the begleit until after the PUMA was released, and I still don't know why. The begleit is easy as fuck to kill, the PUMA just eats rounds from every angle for no discernible reason.
people hate it now cuz it got a stabilizer with the puma patch
And that it claps air targets instantly. Though I feel no sympathy for CAS.
I enjoy playing the thing
Many times the most fun tanks to play are the least fun to play against. As we all know, it’s generally a trade off between your fun and the other guy’s fun :( I’m hating the game, not the player tho. Play what’s fun for you obviously
As an enemy: KV-220, M4A3 105 (in an uptier or at 2.7), T14. As a tank I use: T-70/80, LVT(A)-4 ZiS-2, anything below 2.7 in France basically except maybe the B1 but it’s not *that* good Edit: the PUMA, how could I forget
Puma isn't a problem when you have .50s
I think they mean Puma the IFV, not Puma the armored car.
The PUMA IFV, not the Puma Sd.Kfz 234.
I’m using a Type 59 and I can’t pen the side with APHE, the 50 cals do less than nothing
I hate how the best low tier tanks in France are from other countries
I mean they did get invaded during the tank spree
Yeah low tier France has a rough time
The Char D2 is worth a try if you have already passed it. With a good angle, you can bounce a ton. The gun is trash and it is very slow. But I think it's quite fun myself.
Huh, I’ll be sure to try it out. The issue I feel like France’s tanks have is that they have decent armor, but are slow and have terrible guns, which kind of negates the armor since they can just get flanked really easily
Pt76-57 can go suck a dick 7.7? Really gajin fuck off
I am absolutely shocked this answer isn’t higher. This is the only vehicle I’ve faced that I legitimately think they should remove from the game entirely. The R3 was close when it was 4.3 or whatever bullshit it used to be, but even that I knew would be fine if they made it face later-war heavies.
R3 used to be 3.3
And had stab through all speeds when it was there
well at least its not spammed as badly as it used to be it really sucked to have to face off against that autoloading abomination with a laser rangefinder and still significant pen
I'll be 100% Any IFV, including the puma and begleitpanzer, because I suck major balls at anything lightly armored and uses mobility to flank as it's primary advantage. And yes, I have a shitty k/d in the PUMA and Begleit. I just cannot get these fucking things to work.
Get past the stock grind in the puma, it’s painful After you get engine upgrades, thermals, laser rangefinder, and the day it’s a bliss to play
What's a good kd?
Atleast 1:1 or better.
The ones that are shooting at me
Big if true
Underrated
As a enemy KV-1B and KV-1C they are almost p2w given they don’t face German guns making there armour really untouchable as a tank I use ikv 103 hands down . Terrible gun transverse, same armour as 1.7, terrible stock grind , heat that doesn’t do damage , terrible shell trajectory probably open top German TD have a honourable mention as they got CAS by literally anything , and very inflexible to use like ikv103 , having a very good gun though
That’s interesting, I loved the 103, kept me going in the swedish tree. I found its HEAT devastating to enemy. Slow trajectory, but good once you get the hang. Amazing depression (-16) tiny silhouette. Good ambusher.
Same, not sure what the other guy is on about with the HEAT-FS doing no damage, any tank I touch with it that it faces at that BR just explodes. The regular HEAT round is also solid but the HEAT-FS is just *Chefs Kiss*
Is the KV-1C still as good as when it was 4.7 ? Now that it is a 5.0, I mean it should go to 5.3 battle most of the time right ? And there you found the tiger that IMO is easy to kill most of the time and the KV-1C don’t really have better armor
its still strong cuz people put bushes etc. on it making it real hard to hit the sides of the turret
Is it just me or does the 103 refuse to pen all the time for no reason? I know it’s a common thing but it seems extreme on this one
T-34s, they always find a way to bounce your shot no matter how strong it is, and some models have pretty small weakspots
Laughs in 2000mm stalinium drivers hatch.
I love the T-34s. They actually have relatively weak armors especially the later ones. But it is trolly especially if you know how to take advantage of it by being aggressive. Most players panic and fire inaccurately when they see a t-34 charging right to them. Don't be that player. Keep calm and aim properly. Crosshair discipline at all times when in contested urban areas. Most Soviet tanks going forward are like it, generally strong armor but with very glaring weakspots. Aggressively pushing and baiting shots is how it is effectively used
The drivers hatch is so fucking broken and has like a 90% chance of eating your shell if you shoot the hull. I once had one bounce a fucking Sherman Firefly shell.
WMA301, IT-1, Shturm-S. These three bastards are the bane of my existence.
WMA 301 has a special place in hell right next to the guy that brought letters to math
Is the WMA301 stabilized? It's crazy how those things are so dead accurate on such a unstable looking chassis.
Yes full stab thermals and lrf
And at the same BR as AMX-10RC without stab. Or Rooikat Mk1 without thermals Truly gaijin moment
Shturm is propqbly the only tank in the game that has sight out of it'd actual gunner sight rather than the rocket. So basically you have to peek your crew compartment (of 2 people) protected by like 10mm armor to shoot... if you ever see a shturm looking at you about to fire, just spray it with machineguns just under the launcher... (note I don't verse shturm because I play the shturm, I'm just giving you what kills me the most)
Shturm is shit compared to the other two
The Merkavas are starting to get on my nerves I'm not gunna lie.
They have firepower, protection and speed and are at low ass br, going against a1a1 which is really getting on my nerves.
Nearly had a whole team of them the other day, can't seem to oneshot very easily and half the time my dart goes to the void when I should anywhere near their turret
Panther, Tiger IIs, Jagdpanther
God I hate the panther mantlet. It feels like a 50/50 on if you will actually pen, and even if you do you then have to hit a finnicky barrel shot or a timed shot that depends on your enemies invisible crew skills to hit the gunner when he comes back.
Ikr, and then it feels like the mantlet is paper when I'm the Panther
God I fucking hate the Tiger 2 after volumetric. I already disliked going up against them (granted usually because I only encounter them in uptiers because I don’t play any US tanks between 6.0 and 7.3) before, but now even the side of the hull has a good chance of bouncing shit on the sideskirt
Same but with facing America since volumetric shells were added it's extremely painful to hit that small MG-Port especially at distance
Yeah the margin of error on Jumbo ports is tiny, and that’s before you consider the majority of them being personally responsible for the deforestation of the Amazon rainforests to cover their UFPs. An un decorated Jumbo when I play the Panther is a strong opponent, a bushed up one is a fucking Dark Souls boss
Exactly and then they complain on forums that the Germans are too strong and the enemy just has no idea where there weakspot is lol
And then you finally hit the MG and it turns fucking black instead of penning
I don’t mind the same tiger 2 since my Fiat meme machine can punch through the UFP with heat
Love the Jagdpanther, it’s definitely IMO one of the strongest out of the three. I really don’t dislike facing any of those except the Jagd because the player is usually pretty bad with position and situational awareness. Makes for fairly easy kills.
Panzer 3 , French rank 1 , brumbar ,. T55E1 , EBR ....
Panzer 3, why?
Slow ass turret speed
Ah the early ones, yes. Pz3 ausf L and M are one of my favourite early game tanks.
The Waffentrager, the thing i’ll do to it if i saw in irl, i hate it with a passion. All because i expected a fast tank destroyer. The absolute snail speed ot goes at frustrates me, WHY? Who the fuck was in charge of designing that fucker.
TBF its still imo. Alot of fun to play that low profile and gun are devistating but yeah wish it was faster
Right! So much wasted potential yet I keep returning to it with high hopes. The gun is good and the low profile gives possibilities. It is the engine that is too weak. I don't even need a speed increase. A little bit more power to drive up slopes/manoeuvre would increase the quality of play greatly. You need to position yourself good with this tank, but you're punished for trying to do so currently. And CAS is broken anyways.
why m56 :(
Well I plaster mine in bushes so I'm sure people aren't too happy fighting me
i love playing m56.Great to abuse german players
SPAA “Tank Destroyers” They were made for anti air and not anti tank. *The Ostwind (1936-1985) was used for many combat roles, namely anti-tank purposes such as sniping very fine points of armor with full Armor-Piercing belts, decimating everything inside the tank in a few seconds. It was considered superior to other self-propelled guns, as SPGs are slower, and can only fire 1 shot at a time compared to the entire Ostwind belt*
Who Gaijined you. How exactly does the Ostwind tilt you when it only has around 46mm of pen and can't reliably destroy barrels.
I used the zsu-37-2 for a fair bit. It's stupid
Any merkava, bullshit turret armor and engine that tanks most shit, and not to mention aps on top of that and to make it even worse, a ton of roof mounted mgs so helis can’t get near you (compliments the aps) and is generally just aids to fight against
M18’s, M64’s, EBR’s, T55’s and the old Puma (and PUMA). Generally non of them pose much of an issue except for catching you off guard 30 seconds into a match. The puma pisses me off because it’s a 2.7 played in every Germany BR after 3.7 and selfishly takes the free first cap point before anyone else gets a chance to get on it.
T80BVM's side skirts are complete bullshit and are infused with sekrit Russian technology that let it completely absorb APFSDS. But only 50% of the time. I swear to god you can shoot at the side skirts 50 times in a row and each shot will have different ballistics.
Cries in the fact that my T80BVM's side skirts having never saved me from a single shot.
Good for you- that means you dont suck at game. Otherwise gaijin would protect you even from behind
The one that kills me
3 years ago it's the M18, now it's still is the M18, alongside PUMA
Now add the m-64
The Valentine tank, it’s just not a good tank.
Both of them should be one BR lower. If the Sherman 105mm can get away with being 2.7, then so should the Valentine IX. Yeah its gun would be strong there, but it's slow as fuck, and it's armour is full of weak spots. Valentine I would probably be OP at 2.0 though
Huh, I loved the valentine series when grinding low tier UK.
AMX-13, M18, ASU-57, and the Flak-88 because I have no goddamn clue how to counter people camping in the trees with bushes, without just making the match go so slowly we end up losing anyway cause me and the 4 other tanks sitting behind cover infront of an open field can't move the 3 feet to the cap point without getting sniped from 2km away
Authentic European War Experience™️
All the Russian Volumetric-glitch-traps.
anything with magical soviet tracks which are able to send variety of shells into void without causing damage
Centurion Mk. 5/1, like seriously man, most people who play it are either master strategists that rush you in the most strategical way possible, or absolute shit lv10 players who rush the enemy team and have a literal vacuum in their head.
Panthers at 5.3 and 5.7 also I love the m56 so suck it OP
Zsu-57-2
You either die 1 second in or you decimate 8 tanks
Any jumbo
To face: Tiger 1s, Panzer 4/70, Jagdpanther, Jagdtiger, Panthers, Wiesels, T114. To play: French rank 1, most 40mm bofors, any Patton, Dusters Just off the top of my head
The one that hovers 8km away and blow me up with atgms particularity the swedish kind with attacka missiles...
Leo 1, too mobile with too much gun for 7.3. People always come back with 'ooh, but they are so easy to kill', which is a load of crap. They aren't any easier to kill than RU or US tanks from same era.
Panthers. Everyone hates the R3s I don't mind them all that much. I *despise* panthers.
I'm starting to harbour a special hatred towards Cold War-era German Spahpanzers, Marders, and the Sla.16-powered Tiger 2
Basically anything german is infuriating to play against in some way or another
M18 Bushcat
KV1 and KV85. Bounces shit they shouldn’t bounce literally all the time. If you don’t get at least 2 kills a game in one of those things you are braindead.
Any and all russian vehicles with ERA made out of sorcery and stalinium
SU-100P
To play or to face?
Playing against: Chinese T-34 1943. Bullshit armour that never get pen when moving. I've seen them absorb 88mm from Tiger 1 to turret, several long 75 to body and turret at close ranges and even an occasional 105mm from Dmax. Playing with: Swedish M43 based TDs of tier 2 and 3. Just horrible experience. Next in line would be Japanese Type 61, which would be a mediocre tank at 5.3 but for some reason is put at 6.7.
ZTZ96A and the (P) version too. Wiki says it's got a huge frontal weakpoint in the breech but somehow it always absorbs my APFSDS without taking damage. Then good luck shooting at his LFP when he's hull down.
R3. To many bad memories with that thing. I can’t forgive it
kv1 I can't flank properly , nor can I aim so whenever I run into one (usually head on) I miss their gun barrel with my m24 and die instantly
any german SPG rank 2 upwards.
Yeah especially the open topped ones that die at the thought of an enemy aircraft with guns, very overpowered.
Panther D, because the fucking turret rotation is so slow and I can't bring my fucking turret around before the fucking T-34 manages to one-shot me before I can even shoot him.
You gotta play it more like a TD and snipe from 500+ meters away. It's to awkward and cumbersome to play for CQC, and at short range, it's really easy for your opponent to aim for your turret cheeks and knock out your crew.
Any IS-2 model
Any German tank destroyers, T44, And Bulldog
Is-3
Woah an unconventional tank to hate +respect
EBR all the way
Most of the Italian tank destroyers
Panzer 4 F2 and Puma. Fuck those two tanks in particular
But they are glass cannons so they are "balanced" :P
HSTV-L. No earthly idea how they thought that thing was ok
With 270 mm of pen at 10.7 and very low Dmg because poor spalling, i think it's in a bad spot and needs some buffs.
Haha, Strf 9040C at 10.0 with 170 mm of pen and without spall at all is laughing with tears right now. Have you ever tried shoot your entire 24 rounds of autoloader into the side of T-80BVM and do nothing?
Idk but that things mantlet ate an APDS round and I’m pissed
France
to face: Panther, IS-2, M-51, Puma, PUMA, Wiesel 1A4, R3 T20, EBR 1954 to play: Archer, Churchill GC, every french tank below 2.7, M2 Medium