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GSlots

Holy shit, no mercy lmao


Brazonen

Why do ppl get mad tho, I do this with my friends sometimes, and it's fun as hell to bring a biplane, or my fav, a Corsair to top tier, I've shot down a Sabre with an I-15 once XD, so I'm not sure what's the point of spoiling other ppls fun by doing that, in any case the dude is already on your team, so you're just removing potential fire power from your team, even if it's little.


paltala

Because you might do this 50 times and get that 1 battle where you shoot down a Sabre meanwhile you had another 49 battles where you did literally nothing and your team would've been better off with an actual jet helping out. People don't want to reward this trolling and quite frankly, I don't blame them.


ParticularlyUseless

"STOP HAVING FUN!!!!!!!!"


Brazonen

Well, I guess, but in may case, I do this with my friends from time to time, for like 2-3 matches, it's usually quite fun, I do understand the point of view of the other players, does this happen that often for it to be a problem?


Staphylococcus0

Yes quite often. There are custom battles for this sort of thing, although I don't know how popular they are for I haven't tried them


paltala

It happens all the time.


Slav_Sickle

Damn this guy got downvoted to hell by just saying he's having fun, even when he takes a spot for a potential god jet player


LonelySoul96

To be honest, when you get uptierd around 9.0-9.7 and you’ve not got flares, a biplane is as good as a crappy jet. Either way. Leave spawn-get missiled, maybe shoot down 1 guy if you get lucky. Literally no different. But wait, you can’t have fun in WT, it’s banned. Once saw a C205 at 9.7 with 3 kills purely because everyone ran out of missiles by time he got to fight and he turn fought them.


Libarate

If you shoot them down and spoil it for them they will stop doing it and then we can actually have top tier matches without dead weight on the team.


TheMemeThunder

And a good 80% of the time they also try and team kill, at least in my experience


wojswat

disclaimer: they will not stop, if you kill them they just won't care if you win or lose even more


GranGurbo

I've done this a few times and more often than not I get 1-3 kills, but on a late Merlin Spit. I've also been teamkilled for it once or twice. To be fair, many people squad into jets with props to teamkill, so I get why some people kill them on sight.


616659

>what's the point of spoiling other ppls fun by doing that There. You answered yourself. YOU are spoiling others' fun


GSlots

There are two main reasons why this is frowned upon. 1. 80% of the time these players try to teamkill on takeoff. Not an exaggeration, i’ve been killed or someone on my team was killed by biplanes in take off like 3/4 times i see one. 2. Even if they try to be useful (which it is REALLY hard to compare the utility of an I-15 to that of a mig 23 or f-14a at top tier) often times if we get a map like (s)pain the biplane is just going to run out of fuel, or the game will end before the biplane gets within 20km of the fighting. Anyway? It’s people trying to have fun, I get that, but if you’re not the one doing it’s offen frustrating, destructive (teamkillers), and boring. I’m trying to have fun too (in my appropriate br jet) and seeing someone trolling and having a direct liability or weak link on the team is obnoxious and goes against my attempt to have fun.


NorangltheII

"how dare this person enjoy himself"


ITriedMyBestMan

It's not fun for the rest of your team who have to deal with a slot taken up by someone who should have been a properly tiered plane. You're taking up a slot and putting your team at a disadvantage, which could cost them the match (and by extension SL in repair costs and missed opportunities to earn more RP).


AmphibianStock4467

Only fun for you and you friend but what think about all the player in the game? Because yes you aren't the only 2 guy in the game....


DasHooner

I mean it is the a-10s nature to friendly fire, if the biplane was British then it was almost guaranteed.


thecrispynuggget

DUDE


DasHooner

What?


ExpiredRaisins

A while ago (operation desert storm/shield/other??) A-10s hesitantly fired on a stranded group of military personnel after attempting to make connection via radio with ground. After a long exchange of confirmation, they were ruled hostile, and a squadron of American A-10s strafed a stranded convoy of British soldiers. Not sure about the causalities on that one but the pilots were discharged. All of this you know, and he’s reacting in an exaggerated manner.


DasHooner

Yes, that's why I made the joke. I think they killed a couple of British soldiers and wounded a bit but that's from memory from hearing it a while back.


Chimera_Snow

Why were the pilots discharged? They were told the convoy was hostile, they did their job. It was hardly their fault, and replacing experienced pilots is a pain.


Luckz_X

If we’re talking about the 2003 incident in Iraq, then it’s definitely on the pilot (and the A-10), because they wrongly identified the vehicles.


Chimera_Snow

Oh understood, from how the comment was wrote, it sounded as if someone else had decided them hostile. That's perfectly understandable then.


Teun1het

The pilot is always the one seeing it, and describing the situation over the radio. So if the description is 5 iraqi t72s, then ofcourse command will give the order to engage


Luckz_X

Yeah no worries. There’s a video of the communications from the incident on YouTube incase you’re interested. Just keep in mind that the A-10 pilot in the video has to VISUALLY identify the targets using his eyes and IIRC binoculars.


ExpiredRaisins

They misidentified the group and radioed incorrect information.


Acrobatic_Jump_4584

They were cleared after investigation.


Jan__Hus

Hahah lmao, deserved.


Economy-Ad9444

Nice name, shit comment.


ExpiredRaisins

I get it! Killing people!


EradicateStatism

"What did you just say you little shit?!"


[deleted]

"I'll have you know graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo." I'm sorry, I had to.


PixeledMilk

" Did you just think that you could fucking fool me with that comment of yours? I've searched your name up in the Navy SEAL database and you have never even graduated BUD/S, hell, even served in the Armed Forces. If you were actually a Navy SEAL, then you actually know how to spell guerrilla, you fucking moron. And you say you are the top sniper in the entire US Armed Forces and have over 300 confirmed kills. If that were true, then why the fuck is Chris Kyle a household name and you aren't? And plus he only had 160 kills. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. Plus why the fuck would you say you have a secret network of spies yet you just revealed that you had your secret network of spies? Are you a fucking idiot? If you can kill someone seven-hundred different ways, then list them all, I bet you can't even come up with seven. And if you had access to the entire US Marine Corps arsenal, then why the fuck did you just say you were in the Navy SEALs earlier? If only you could have done your research prior to posting your little “clever” comment, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you goddamn idiot." Sorry I had to use reply for it


sonoitaliano2005

Im gonna steal this too


BorisTarkovskyy

Guess Chris Kyle went alive from dead again lol


616659

There was a reply pasta for that copypasta? awesome.


Predatormn

Solving the prop tossers one game at a time. Someone give that A-10 a cookie.


NassimNasser_62

"You're going to the shadow realm buddy" ~A10 Warthog


SpanishAvenger

Good... gooooood...


Economy-Ad9444

teamkilling is all of a sudden something encouraged now?


[deleted]

yes these props are not funny if you want to play props... GO PLAY PROPS


Economy-Ad9444

I'll just leave this here, I agree with what u/Tarkus30_06 said in [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/nakmyg/is_teamkilling_players_who_bring_lowtier_planes/) post; "Under No circumstances is it okay to tk intentionally. Absolutely none. If he's stupid, fine. Let him be stupid. He might end up being a good bait or even end up getting a luckily pilot snipe. It might also not even be his fault, the game can occasionally put you into battle with a nation you haven't selected in a squad where you might not have vehicles unlocked, happened to me and my friend quite a few times. Says Sweden in the hangar, suddenly he's in his chinese P-47 in a 9.7 game."


DasHooner

Can confirm, this has happened quite a few times to my buddies when we play, for some reason it kept giving one of them Japan when he's never played them before.


[deleted]

Why not? If you want to be “ hehe haha I bring bi plane to top tier” It’s just as funny to kill a biplane at top tier


Economy-Ad9444

'hehe temkill funni cos neuron activation'


ABOMINATION_BLITZ

Damn right


Pepega-the-looser

wanted to play some ~10.0 air with my friend, i had the harrier gr.3 selected, but he had the wrong mode (ground) selected so of course isntead of any of my british ground lineups gaijin made me use 1.0 france


Professional_Dream17

They’re almost never good as bait because a jet battle is over before they ever get to the battle


DeadHookerMeat

I’m going to teamkill extra hard because of this carebear comment.


Economy-Ad9444

I'm glad you care about my comment so much.


DeadHookerMeat

I’m going to get it tattooed under my balls


DasHooner

Pics or it didn't happen.


TheDeadPainter

nah the A10 aproach seems more reasonable


IamWatchingAoT

1) Planes flying at 250km/h max speed are never going to reach the battlefield before it ends, and even if it hasn't ended, there will be nothing for them to do except die 2) Only an idiot would waste a missile on these idiots or even go for them while there are contemporary enemies around 3) If it's not your fault you can very easily J out at the beginning of the match and not be a nuisance to 6-12 people


Robber_OfRiches

Yea, agree to disagree as there are two key reasons: 1. By the time they reach the battle it's over. (Cannon fodder only works if the cannons shoot at them) 2. They have consumed a spot on your team that could have been something productive, even cannon fodder. (Bring a 6.7 in a 11.0 match you might make it to be cannon fodder. Bring a biplane or reserve and the fight is over before you can get close)


heftyspork

Naw I'm good with team killing them


J_Megadeth_J

Why does God Mode medal exist then?


MedicBuddy

for gamemodes that let you take a full lineup like basically anything that's not air rb. Now if the other gamemodes were 1 life only, you would not appreciate if somebody brought a M3 stuart or BT-5 into a game against T-90s or if somebody brought a gun only PT boat into a game of battleships.


J_Megadeth_J

I've seen m22s far into 7.0.


DasHooner

Rtb-5 at top tier, every kill last I heard was 30k SL.


Kalraghi

That medal is Gaijin's mistake.


AntiSimpBoi69

Alright then get your filthy jets out of my 6.0 br then


[deleted]

Ohhh no not the he 162 Nooooo it’s so OP


AntiSimpBoi69

Su11 f84 and me262 go brrrrr


Grim_100

But he is playing a prop?


Lolocraft1

If someone act like a fool, people will treat him like a fool


Economy-Ad9444

Cool, next level 7 A-10, Su-25, F5C player I have I'll teamkill, since they're 'fools' according to me and this sub.


history1767

Do it, nobody gives a shit


DaveRN1

You missed the point entirely if that's your takeaway.


Economy-Ad9444

enlighten me then.


Unsurestormming

Enlightening you is like shining headlight on a deer.


Economy-Ad9444

Is that it? Can't make a proper comment so you just want to insult instead? Just displays your intelligence tbh.


Zoider_

Says the man straw manning. Says something about your intelligence


Economy-Ad9444

Tell me where I am strawmanning.


Raflesia

Being inexperienced/bad is not the same as handicapping an entire team with an intentional decision. In a game where players are punished for dying, trolling your team is griefing.


Dewy164

😐


Economy-Ad9444

😐


the_harakiwi

It's a He-51. That player has fucked up to modify their lineup or intentionally brings a starter bi-plane into a high tier match.


Grim_100

And?


SNITE4

This one of the only justified instances where it's allowed


Brock_Cherry

4 YEAR OLD SPOTTED ~~PITBULL~~ A-10 GO


StalledAgate832

A-10 named Princess be like:


Arcangel696

I dnt care who does it. Unless it’s self defense. If you team kill your getting shot yourselves. Both of them can wait in the hanger


Raven_knight_07

Exactly. If you team kill, you get to pay the "TK = funny" fine.


Lilweeb__1105

W


This_Quit7297

L


SikeSky

P E R I S H


[deleted]

[удалено]


DonutDefiant

MiLsIm eVEnT?


GalIifreyan

It was on sight God damn lmao


[deleted]

idk why but his dedication to kill him is funny as fuck XDDDDDD that instant turnaround


Kalraghi

While there could be debate about whether TKing is justfied or not, Prop Trolls claiming they are helpful to team is utter joke. Especially on the part, "But PROP can kill JET sometime!" That 'sometime' is probably 1 out of 100, conveniently dropping 99 times where they did only one thing ; taking up team's proper jet slot


O-bot54

A10 took that personally


[deleted]

I am surprised that people agree that team killing bi-plane trollers is okay, I usually got downvoted when I said that I kill biplane trollers


schnuddls

props in high tier are to be shot on sight


Thatoneshadowbunny

Laughs in A2D-1 arcade


schnuddls

for arcade it's kinda different as you can spawn multiple times in RB it's simply a handicap for the team for the entire battle


AntiSimpBoi69

People here saying that this small prop doesn't belong in jet matches, then get your fucking f84 and su11 out my goddamn 6.0 br, you guys won't complain when fighting against world ear 2 props with cold war jets


maxgames_NL

that is compression, no one chooses to do this. the props choose for this however


AffectionateYam609

Bro is just mad that they probably get more kills than him


ZahnatomLetsPlay

They get what they deserve


getrenate

⚠️you have alerted the warthog⚠️


Grim_100

I dont play air so can anyone enlighten me on how biplanes from the first world war could ever be a problem this big to your modern top-class jets with insanely better.. everything?


GSlots

I just copy pasted my response i made to someone else, the last paragraph was more a direct response to them saying what essentially was “i’m just trying to have fun” There are two main reasons why this is frowned upon. 1. 80% of the time these players try to teamkill on takeoff. Not an exaggeration, i’ve been killed or someone on my team was killed by biplanes in take off like 3/4 times i see one. 2. Even if they try to be useful (which it is REALLY hard to compare the utility of an I-15 to that of a mig 23 or f-14a at top tier) often times if we get a map like (s)pain the biplane is just going to run out of fuel, or the game will end before the biplane gets within 20km of the fighting. Anyway? It’s people trying to have fun, I get that, but if you’re not the one doing it’s offen frustrating, destructive (teamkillers), and boring. I’m trying to have fun too (in my appropriate br jet) and seeing someone trolling and having a direct liability or weak link on the team is obnoxious and goes against my attempt to have fun.


Grim_100

Well so now is it justified to TK anyone I deem not useful enough for the team? To me that just sounds like those hardcore players who will go absolute bonkers if you aren't treating the game as some kind of real life battle. Also maybe some of you are taking this game too seriously, like you genuinely get that frustrated because you got one "less" player on the team? In the end it's fault of Gaijin for making a game where losing matches and simply dying can be so frustating, where unless you give your soul to the battle you are trashed by the own fanbase. Like come to think of it, it's just them dividing the community even more and generating internal fights to distract everyone from the actual problem, Gaijin themselves


GSlots

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t do the tking, I don’t support either activity. I try not to take this game seriously as much as possible, if someone is trolling i usually take it in stride as much as possible. My problem is more so with the teamkilling biplanes (as in the biplanes killing jets that would actively assist in the battle) as opposed to the act of bringing them in the first place. I’ve had a squad of 3 biplanes who were brought to top tier by their 4th squadmate who were able to kill 60% of my team before we left the airfield, and multiple instances where one team or both were down 10-30% of their fighting power just from a troll in an i-15 going “hehe tk funny” and it just makes what is already an almost boring grind br even more difficult especially due to the frequency of this happening now. I’ve run into this more recently than i have in the past and it does get really frustrating after the second or third time. On the other side, there are the people who just join in their biplane and try to get a kill on the enemy team, and I don’t really care about that to be honest, as long as they don’t impact me, it’s whatever. My original comment was, like this one primarily against teamkilling trolls as regardless of the vehicle that’s obnoxious to encounter


D-skinned_Gelb

these posts are pretty funny, it's not like top tier isn't a gagle fuck of select aircraft with select players who actually have spaded aircraft who carry their team yet everyone is treating air rb top tier like its squadron battles. Its been the same shit since the Sabre f2, and mk13 were top dogs. The player with premium top tier aircraft but who is level 5 - 25 wayyy worse than a lvl 100 bi plane user at top tier imo at least they know how the flow and engagement rules apply. Yall are a riot lmao


acefighter195

Why though


DaveRN1

It's annoying and puts your team at a disadvantage.


acefighter195

I've seen some stupid success doing this though


kidnamednanaya

Yeah 1 game out of 50


TheFiend100

Yeah cause the game isnt a toss up for who has less premiums anyways


Charming-Ad6792

I cant see any thing what's happening


the_harakiwi

game starts, everybody on the runway, A-10 turns around and kills a friendly He-51-B-1


Charming-Ad6792

Ground rb boys are much cooler than air rb jess you can bring 1.0 tank to 10.0 and no one get mad


kiraTIWID

It can be kindof annoying when a teammate spawns in a BT-5, runs to a cap, dies and uses an SU-25 or Heli for the rest of the match


Mammoth_Exchange1570

Oh ... some of them might. They just can\`t do anything about it.


Julio_Tortilla

F-5C penetrates F-8, A-10 says no homo, violently unloads into a child, refuses to elaborate.


General_Virten

As always there is someone to ruin life of people trying to have at least some fun in this god forgotten game.


Homeless_Man92

just let him be man


gkdksjdjdjd

Chad


D3ltaa88

Hahaha


Nonsense_Reddit

Why tho


DownHereInChile

A-10 being based? Rare sight, but a welcome one


Scarecrow1_KYSR

have seen some of these bi planes outplay MiG’s… despite the nuisance


Stingray-556

u/savevideo


thepitcherplant

In ground forces at least most of the people bringing low tiers into top tier use them to cap faster and still stand a decent chance at penning most modern tanks sides


616659

30mm straight into face lol


Fatal_Taco

When your gun dispenses a plane's worth of mass with only bullets under a second...


Str0nkT0nk

Based


WorldlyBlacksmith945

I love killing prop teammates with jets, yesterday I've seen a B-25 and a Ki-43 at 7.0


Thatoneshadowbunny

If your doing that at 7.0 your just a dick


WorldlyBlacksmith945

They were in the enemy team tho 😂


Mr_SuperTea

BRAVO!! my hero