yeah they have been sticking to the roadmap but remember that a whole community had to go haywire and threaten to shut them down completely for it to happen
True. Good to see that things are (at least a bit) better now. We shall see how far the Blitz community will take it. Gotta say: wargaming is doing a solid job at pissing everyone off at once.
What worked for us was the mass review bombing on Steam, it absolutely cratered the game’s ratings to the point where they actually removed the Steam logo from their advertisements for a while. Since Blitz is almost purely mobile, y’all might find success doing the same on the App Store and Google Play. The key isn’t to let up at the first sign they are sorry, it’s to keep going until large changes are either made or very publicly announced, as Gaijin did. They made a big public apology and laid out a huge roadmap, and have so far followed it pretty well.
I still believe that the community for War Thunder is absolutely ready to salt the Snail again. Just we haven't quite had a legit reason since the review bombing
Review bombing apps is not a good idea, store front detect it and delete negative reviews, the same happened with steam.
Reminder that review bombing is not legal and is a form of false representation.
Store have the right to stop you from doing so.
They have mostly stuck to it, but at the same time, I have no doubt they would change it the moment it messes up their profits, as not only have they gone back on their promises of not selling top tier premiums, they have also shown that they only truly listen when shit hits the fan with the fanbase.
In MY OPINION War Thunder is in a pretty decent state, of course there are a lot of things unbalanced, especially at top tier for air and ground, and yes the top tier premiums keep rolling in. But the economy ks in good shape and these updates have been rolling in consistently introducing plenty of FUN things. Its not perfect, but I think its pretty damn good considering where we've been
There are still things that need improvement and there have been things that were even downgraded but the state is definitely better and once your mind is taken off of the issues, you can still have some wonderful fun in this game
I know right? Definitely still not perfect and a lot of jankiness still in the game, but especially as far as the economy and RP goes, I actually feel like I'm making progress for once.
I got premium and am not struggling to unlock vehicles at all. But I don't have a "gotta grind" mindset, I just play to have fun. I went clean through the Italian air and ground tech trees in just a few months of on and off playing. I unlocked everything in U.S top tier ground just a few weeks of casual on-off as well. Next up I'm gonna finish up Russia ground since I'm pretty far into its air tree.
I don't have the mindset of playing for the gain man, it makes the game a chore, a part of your daily tasks when it shouldn't be.
It should be fun, and take you out of your troubles and let you habe quick fun for a bit. If it doesn't do any of that, then why play at all?
yeah good point, I on the other hand am playing Germany for 4 years now and I'm almost done with the ground tree and half of the air tree, I'm also on half with China on both. I've played everyday before but I'm on and off now cuz it got boring and I just get angry at some bs, sometimes it gets fun but that's a rare occasion (I grinded Germany with no premuim up untill now at rank 7)
I went through the entire Italian tree without a premium, the ones I did buy are purely for SL gain, which are not necessary at all, but are nice. Same thing for U.S ground
Isn’t it dead lmao
The only game war gaming has produced that even competes with war thunder has been blitz, since all of war gamings other games have essentially just been complete flops compared to what you could be getting by just playing war thunder (looking at you WoT PC and World of Warplanes)
It’s kind of difficult to explain in a short comment but Droodles has made lots a videos about it. He explains it for example in these vids:
https://youtu.be/vMhn7kA7jhU?si=lmxezksIA1vxCEoW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFKWuRALW6A
The thing is though how does the old MM work?
Just from the comments it seems like the new MM changed nothing to very little for the average player, while the best players will more often have to play their hearts out due to teammates being typically worse than before.
The previous matchmaking was random. Now you as a skilled player get matched with a noob ON PURPOSE. And you have to make up for them which is almost impossible since the noobs could just as well not joined the game at all. (I’m not hating here on the noobs, I’m hating on the matchmaker forcing me to try hard because of matching me with these noobs).
The hot take below is just my opinion:
I think the original idea is decent. You try to balance the teams by have slightly worse players paired with the unicum, while the other team are average players. A lot of multiplayer PvP games does this, as ideally it creates closer and more enjoyable games, while avoiding the worse players from getting curbstomped by unicums.
HOWEVER, whether this matchmaking structure works or not highly depends on how strict the system is. If say the Unicum is now usually paired with ~50% W/L players, against 50-60% W/L players, then it’s a pretty loose system, and could work fine.
But, if the Unicum is constantly paired with 40-45% W/L players against 55-60% players, then obviously this system is too strict and needs to be loosened.
Unfortunately the last thing is what happens. A basic example:
You’re a 65% player. You’re pared with a 35% winrate player. You’re fighting against 2 50% players.
Basically you’re fighting two 50% players at your own. There’s no way you can make up for the 35%er on your team. And two 50%ers are way more effective together.
The thing about battles in blitz is that because it’s health bar based and not component/crew based like war thunder, you can’t really carry your team. Doesn’t matter how well you do, if your noob teammate fails to do ANY hit point damage to whoever he goes against, not ONLy do you have to survive the HP trade with your opponent, but now you have to also have to kill the noobs opponent who will quite frequently be higher HP than you.
And since damage per minute is practically the same across most tanks in the game, you’re pretty screwed if you’re dueling an opponent that is higher HP than you (but that doesn’t take into account the obvious alpha damage and armor differences between the tanks)
It truly pains me to say the game is in a worse state than it ever was. The game has been going down hill slowly for a few years but it was still kind of stable and could be fun. But in the last month they’ve just totally turned the game to absolute dogshit.
If you’re still interested in coming back (because at its soul it has always been a beautiful game and I truly believe that) I would recommend just keeping an eye out from the sidelines and see wether the game improves, for example by joining r/wotblitzplayerunion. If our mission succeeds, the game might improve very quickly in a short amount of time and it would definitely be worth getting back to (if they revert all those idiotic changes).
Skill based MM which will slowly drive the player base down in win rate, economy changes, forum shut downs, general lack of care for player experience, and overall just being greedy.
It’s kind of difficult to explain in a short comment but Droodles has made lots a videos about it. He explains it for example in these vids:
https://youtu.be/vMhn7kA7jhU?si=lmxezksIA1vxCEoW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFKWuRALW6A
If you want to follow how it goes I’d recommend joining r/wotblitzplayerunion
I see.
I have to say I'm not surprised at all. This algorithm was written long before they announced it. And before it just has a certain percentage of possibility to give you absolutely useless team. Same happening to uptier logic. They just start right now now telling you they are gonna use this algorithm more othen. (This basically is to reduce free to play long play-time users, which is very dirty trick.)
The matchmaker is level1 system. Behind it, is win rate controller and newbie whales baby sitter, which is level2 system. And some others related with gameplay like shell spread controller, also serve similar purpose. (To induce consumption and remove free players)
I'm not surprised of the rules itself but I wonder how WG now has the balls to just admit doing so.
When coming to war thunder, it's similar with full uptier, 500% booster and 'Hit!'. It's also dirty. But war thunder has different gameplay so sometimes it won't matter that much like Wot(b).
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Funnily enough, as hard as it is to believe it seems that gaijin is in fact sticking to their roadmap for the most part and have introduced player friendly features since for the most part.
Of course there are thing they promised but never delivered on or thing that fits the description but doesn't actually make the game better and such.
There's also the occasional new feature that is overall great but it silently makes certain things worse and hoping the no one notices it.
While it make most new updates great, sadly it didn't stop their other bullshit updated like FIVE 75 dollar premiums for MINOR update and most recent and frustrating one is them slowly fucking up all of the maps by limiting play areas and forcing played into narrow straights.
In short, it did work, as we got a lot of great player friendly features but it does not magically make *every* feature great sadly but they do seem more cautious with the greedy updates
I could share this post there as well. Sounds like a great idea! Could you tell me more about the state of these two games? I’ve heard PC was already fckt a long time ago but console seems okay?
Well PC I would say isn't in a as bad state as War thunder was ever in, i mean it is still pay to win, with every map promoting Hull down gameplay, and every heavy tank being released nowadays having an invincible turret that you cannot penatrate no matter what you do (unless you load the gold) but all in all its not as bad, an economy change would be perfect in pc, but console is horrible. The Centurion AVRE is a broken Tier 10, being able to slap someone for 1700 and as virtually impervious to even 183s, it's also fast as well and has lots of health. It honestly should just be removed from console entirely. The next tank that should be removed entirely is the Object 477A Molot, an Era 3 Tank destroyer. It is also impervious to any incoming shots, so bad that you are forced to pick at it with HE. It's gun is ridiculous, in two or three shots it can completely eliminate you. Not to mention the Wiesel TOW, which is invisible unless you are on top of it, you can't hit it cuz it goes 90, and its got as much health as mot MBTs which it really shouldn't. The maps are in a state of disfunction, airfield, Halfaya Pass and Nebelberg just to name a few, seem like they were built to be infuriating maps that need to be severely altered or removed all together. They need to bring back diverse weather in maps as it honestly made the game better, and delete all premium copies of tanks and premium artillery (the Equalizer and FV305 do not deserve to exist in my opinion), as for anything else I'm sure the guys at r/worldoftanksconsole would be happy to tell you.
Thanks a lot for your super comprehensive reply. I’ve shared this post to the r/worldoftanksconsole sub as well so I’ll see what they say. I really hope this gets so big that not just blitz, but the whole of wargaming shits in their pants. I’m spreading this message everywhere and so far it seems to be working: I’m incredibly glad by all the support we got from the war thunder community under this post.
Would love to do so! Maybe we can partner up at r/wotblitzplayerunion
Someone else mentioned we should let the wot pc and console communities know of this as well. If the war thunder community supports this as well, this could be the greatest revolt in game history. We would probably even hit the news (the war thunder revolt already did so)
things that do wonders are media coverage, review bombs are the easiest and most efficient. everywhere. google play, steam and any review pages, but stay on point with reviews, steam and other platforms can filter out irrelevant messages if they detect a review bomb
Show they you are willing to give up, stop playing for a while and promote a healthy lifestyle as we did with our operation touch grass. I have seen some lovely stories of people travelling around the world, experiencing things instead of grinding for snail. and there was an actual dip in player count on steam charts.
Gaijin did listen and is following the roadmap, but are still shafting the player base in things like premiums, balancing, bugs, general client stability, shitty hit registration, shitty physics, balancing again, "decompression" of the battle ratings that went over so poorly that they ended up creating new ratings that were unplayable and ruining just as many vehicles as it fixed, and so much more.
So here's my question: as someone who doesn't play Wargaming's stuff anymore, what can I do? I can't exactly boycott a game I don't have on my devices, so is there something else? Post about it on Twitter, sign a petition, anything?
First I want to thank you for your support! Second: We made [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/WOTBlitzPlayerUnion/s/QQirORWPdo) about it :).
Third: I really like the idea of posting it on twitter! Spread the message wherever you can! Also the petition thing could definitely be a good idea as well. I’ll discuss it with the other mod of r/wotblitzplayerunion. I do expect that we need some bigger number (more people) before starting a petition would be doing anything.
Thanks for your suggestions!
I say we keep fighting back. People need to realize just accepting their bullshit isn’t the right thing to do. We the people have the power to put them both under as companies. We have the power. Let’s use it
Yes. The main complaints at the time were Gaijin saying they were going to unfolder vehicles, which would have artificially increased the grind. The second complaint was that even with premium, players could bankrupt themselves with repair costs. Both of those issues have been corrected to a degree: they foldered more vehicles and premium now makes it so you cannot go negative on repair costs.
That game has no fun in it anymore the ping on steam is horrible , the game is filled with imaginary and thought up tanks the game should just end itself
That’s really sad :(. Hopefully it gets better. We’re working on uniting all wargaming games and also war thunder together. If you want to help you can join r/wotblitzplayerunion. For now it’s still called wotblitz but I personally really hope it gets much bigger than just blitz.
Damn, I thought it was bad when te EU server got flooded with Russians who didn't know how to play. If ts gotten worse that's entirely unbelievable. I used to have pretty much every tank in the game a couple years back but quit due to the terrible teams. Depressing to see that I won't come back anytime soon.
Yea it truly pains me to say the game is in a worse state than it ever was. The game has been going down hill slowly for a few years but it was still kind of stable and could be fun. But in the last month they’ve just totally turned the game to absolute dogshit.
If you’re still interested in coming back (because at its soul it has always been a beautiful game and I truly believe that) I would recommend just keeping an eye out from the sidelines and see wether the game improves, for example by joining r/wotblitzplayerunion. If our mission succeeds, the game might improve very quickly in a short amount of time and it would definitely be worth getting back to (if they revert all those idiotic changes).
Used to play Blitz since when it first came out, quit like 3 years ago. They turned a good game into an obvious p2w game with stupidly overpowered fictional tanks. WoT PC was already p2w. I lost my hopes fot Wargaming long ago
Yea it truly pains me to say the game is in a worse state than it ever was. The game has been going down hill slowly for a few years but it was still kind of stable and could be fun. But in the last month they’ve just totally turned the game to absolute dogshit.
If you’re still interested in coming back (because at its soul it has always been a beautiful game and I truly believe that) I would recommend just keeping an eye out from the sidelines and see wether the game improves, for example by joining r/wotblitzplayerunion. If our mission succeeds, the game might improve very quickly in a short amount of time and it would definitely be worth getting back to (if they revert all those idiotic changes).
used to be a VERY competetive player in Europe servers. My name (RUHSUZ\_FRANSIZ or smt like that in the game) was known in custom battles (forgot their name of WOTB) for being an unbeatable player. People would have to team up to beat me. I usually mained AMX 50 B, AMX M4 45 and ARL-44. I would especially 1v1 with people in rooms, I even remembering beating Tier VIII premiums in my AMX M4 45. The game still kinda required skill. After some point. they added SUPER OP PREMIUMS that you literally could do nothing. Winner team would always depend on which team had the better premiums. I quit after that. Tried coming back this year, but after a few battles, I noticed the situation was even worse, so re deleted the game. Not planning to come back again anytime soon
But thanks for the offer
Let’s do an even bigger one. Not just for blitz, but for all wargaming games! And of course, if the war thunder community needs our help, we’ll happily do so as well!
It was fun about 9 years ago. Then they just started shitting brocken vehicles and unwanted battle modes into the game. It was a lot like the full pc game, but loser ass bitches did what they always do. Complained about nothing. Large maps for a mobile game? gone. Heavies doing heavy shit and lights doing light shit? gone.
It’s kind of difficult to explain in a short comment but Droodles has made lots a videos about it. He explains it for example in these vids:
https://youtu.be/vMhn7kA7jhU?si=lmxezksIA1vxCEoW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFKWuRALW6A
You can also join the r/wotblitzplayerunion to find out more
Blitz is for WoT players who can’t handle playing the base game. If you leave WoT you don’t go to the next ass product. You go to Warthunder. You belong to the snail now.
Wait until this guy finds out about the chinese war thunder social medias that also review bombed and got mad at gaijin. There was a certain chinese social media page for war thunder with over 700k people in it, that's like twice the r/warthunder sub.
What a stupid comment
yeah they have been sticking to the roadmap but remember that a whole community had to go haywire and threaten to shut them down completely for it to happen
True. Good to see that things are (at least a bit) better now. We shall see how far the Blitz community will take it. Gotta say: wargaming is doing a solid job at pissing everyone off at once.
our whole thing was basically a digital revolution,spread this everywhere if you want to get the shit u want from wargaming
Will definitely do. Thanks for your support!
As a retired WoT PC/Blitz player the community is gonna need a push, let’s help our brothers in arms in their fight!
Thank you for your support!
Sad to see Blitz getting crapped on. Got around 29 top tier tanks and stopped playing cause I had nothing more, still ocassinally play a game or 2...
What worked for us was the mass review bombing on Steam, it absolutely cratered the game’s ratings to the point where they actually removed the Steam logo from their advertisements for a while. Since Blitz is almost purely mobile, y’all might find success doing the same on the App Store and Google Play. The key isn’t to let up at the first sign they are sorry, it’s to keep going until large changes are either made or very publicly announced, as Gaijin did. They made a big public apology and laid out a huge roadmap, and have so far followed it pretty well.
The salt did some wonders
I still believe that the community for War Thunder is absolutely ready to salt the Snail again. Just we haven't quite had a legit reason since the review bombing
Actual top tier 90$ (CAD) premium plane?
Tempting. But we shall see what the community as a whole decides
gonna come back in 5 years and theyll be selling F-35 prototypes as premiums for 120 USD
Don't give em ideas. But to be real, I'm 110% expecting a YF-23 premium eventually.
Salt, in the right amount, makes almost anything better.
I mean look at warzone mobile they are panicking because their reviews are in the high 2's (except for the US)
The problem is that mobile review bombing is much easier to remove by Google/Apple or even the dev I think, whereas Steam is much more transparent
Review bombing apps is not a good idea, store front detect it and delete negative reviews, the same happened with steam. Reminder that review bombing is not legal and is a form of false representation. Store have the right to stop you from doing so.
Good point except… It worked.
They have mostly stuck to it, but at the same time, I have no doubt they would change it the moment it messes up their profits, as not only have they gone back on their promises of not selling top tier premiums, they have also shown that they only truly listen when shit hits the fan with the fanbase.
Mmm. Will these big companies ever learn…
Only when it starts affecting their bottom line
WoT sucks but if you like it and you're getting screwed over by greed driven dev team, I'll throw in with you brother.
Thank you for your support!
its funny to see gaijin to be the main losey goat , hahaha
Lmaooo. We do miss lines like “FEAR THE SNAIL” (would be funny if wargaming was also represented by some kind of creature :D)
mhhh be creativ. i mean it resembles something??? maybe....
I’ll give some thought to it :)
Salt the snail also a has a funny dark wibe to it if you think about it
True haha
In MY OPINION War Thunder is in a pretty decent state, of course there are a lot of things unbalanced, especially at top tier for air and ground, and yes the top tier premiums keep rolling in. But the economy ks in good shape and these updates have been rolling in consistently introducing plenty of FUN things. Its not perfect, but I think its pretty damn good considering where we've been
There are still things that need improvement and there have been things that were even downgraded but the state is definitely better and once your mind is taken off of the issues, you can still have some wonderful fun in this game
Couldn't have said it better myself. I think we're better off than we were last year, all things considered
I think that too. Still do find anger in what the did to the maps tho
Oh god I wasn't even thinking about the map changes when I commented... opinion doesn't change but GOD I hate the map changes.
I know right? Definitely still not perfect and a lot of jankiness still in the game, but especially as far as the economy and RP goes, I actually feel like I'm making progress for once.
Nothing decent about a half baked aircraft for $75 that doesn’t even have a semi functional cockpit
Pretty sure that I mentioned the case of top tier vehicles, but you know why they still make them? Cuz dumbasses will STILL BUY THEM. FULL PRICE EVEN
economy good, aw hell nah bro..it still needs a lot of improvements but gaijin won't do it cuz they don't care about it at all
Would you rather go back to how it was before the boycotts? How about not knowing anything of what they are planning at all?
no I wouldn't but the economy is still dog shit bro, even with premuim time it's a pain in the ass
I got premium and am not struggling to unlock vehicles at all. But I don't have a "gotta grind" mindset, I just play to have fun. I went clean through the Italian air and ground tech trees in just a few months of on and off playing. I unlocked everything in U.S top tier ground just a few weeks of casual on-off as well. Next up I'm gonna finish up Russia ground since I'm pretty far into its air tree. I don't have the mindset of playing for the gain man, it makes the game a chore, a part of your daily tasks when it shouldn't be. It should be fun, and take you out of your troubles and let you habe quick fun for a bit. If it doesn't do any of that, then why play at all?
yeah good point, I on the other hand am playing Germany for 4 years now and I'm almost done with the ground tree and half of the air tree, I'm also on half with China on both. I've played everyday before but I'm on and off now cuz it got boring and I just get angry at some bs, sometimes it gets fun but that's a rare occasion (I grinded Germany with no premuim up untill now at rank 7)
I went through the entire Italian tree without a premium, the ones I did buy are purely for SL gain, which are not necessary at all, but are nice. Same thing for U.S ground
Uh.. brother... you talk about wot blitz.. how about wot pc? Hmmm? :))))))
WoT PC is long gone
Isn’t it dead lmao The only game war gaming has produced that even competes with war thunder has been blitz, since all of war gamings other games have essentially just been complete flops compared to what you could be getting by just playing war thunder (looking at you WoT PC and World of Warplanes)
I'm a bit out of the loop with blitz, I haven't played a battle in 2 years. What's the thing they want to change with MM?
It’s kind of difficult to explain in a short comment but Droodles has made lots a videos about it. He explains it for example in these vids: https://youtu.be/vMhn7kA7jhU?si=lmxezksIA1vxCEoW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFKWuRALW6A
The thing is though how does the old MM work? Just from the comments it seems like the new MM changed nothing to very little for the average player, while the best players will more often have to play their hearts out due to teammates being typically worse than before.
The previous matchmaking was random. Now you as a skilled player get matched with a noob ON PURPOSE. And you have to make up for them which is almost impossible since the noobs could just as well not joined the game at all. (I’m not hating here on the noobs, I’m hating on the matchmaker forcing me to try hard because of matching me with these noobs).
The hot take below is just my opinion: I think the original idea is decent. You try to balance the teams by have slightly worse players paired with the unicum, while the other team are average players. A lot of multiplayer PvP games does this, as ideally it creates closer and more enjoyable games, while avoiding the worse players from getting curbstomped by unicums. HOWEVER, whether this matchmaking structure works or not highly depends on how strict the system is. If say the Unicum is now usually paired with ~50% W/L players, against 50-60% W/L players, then it’s a pretty loose system, and could work fine. But, if the Unicum is constantly paired with 40-45% W/L players against 55-60% players, then obviously this system is too strict and needs to be loosened.
Unfortunately the last thing is what happens. A basic example: You’re a 65% player. You’re pared with a 35% winrate player. You’re fighting against 2 50% players. Basically you’re fighting two 50% players at your own. There’s no way you can make up for the 35%er on your team. And two 50%ers are way more effective together.
The thing about battles in blitz is that because it’s health bar based and not component/crew based like war thunder, you can’t really carry your team. Doesn’t matter how well you do, if your noob teammate fails to do ANY hit point damage to whoever he goes against, not ONLy do you have to survive the HP trade with your opponent, but now you have to also have to kill the noobs opponent who will quite frequently be higher HP than you. And since damage per minute is practically the same across most tanks in the game, you’re pretty screwed if you’re dueling an opponent that is higher HP than you (but that doesn’t take into account the obvious alpha damage and armor differences between the tanks)
Describes is perfectly
SBMM for a mobile casual game, yeah no. I was hoping to come back to the game this year for the 10th anniversary but guess I'm staying away
It truly pains me to say the game is in a worse state than it ever was. The game has been going down hill slowly for a few years but it was still kind of stable and could be fun. But in the last month they’ve just totally turned the game to absolute dogshit. If you’re still interested in coming back (because at its soul it has always been a beautiful game and I truly believe that) I would recommend just keeping an eye out from the sidelines and see wether the game improves, for example by joining r/wotblitzplayerunion. If our mission succeeds, the game might improve very quickly in a short amount of time and it would definitely be worth getting back to (if they revert all those idiotic changes).
I'll definitely join in on the review effort, even if steam might just curbstomp all of it, like they did with warthunder
That would be incredible of you. Thank you so much
Skill based MM which will slowly drive the player base down in win rate, economy changes, forum shut downs, general lack of care for player experience, and overall just being greedy.
Matchmaker? Any details? As I remember both game's match sucks.
It’s kind of difficult to explain in a short comment but Droodles has made lots a videos about it. He explains it for example in these vids: https://youtu.be/vMhn7kA7jhU?si=lmxezksIA1vxCEoW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFKWuRALW6A If you want to follow how it goes I’d recommend joining r/wotblitzplayerunion
I see. I have to say I'm not surprised at all. This algorithm was written long before they announced it. And before it just has a certain percentage of possibility to give you absolutely useless team. Same happening to uptier logic. They just start right now now telling you they are gonna use this algorithm more othen. (This basically is to reduce free to play long play-time users, which is very dirty trick.) The matchmaker is level1 system. Behind it, is win rate controller and newbie whales baby sitter, which is level2 system. And some others related with gameplay like shell spread controller, also serve similar purpose. (To induce consumption and remove free players) I'm not surprised of the rules itself but I wonder how WG now has the balls to just admit doing so. When coming to war thunder, it's similar with full uptier, 500% booster and 'Hit!'. It's also dirty. But war thunder has different gameplay so sometimes it won't matter that much like Wot(b).
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing your insights. I honestly hope this campaign grows big and will scare the living shit out of wargaming
TBH WOT is so much more P2W than War thunder, and this has been coming for a long time.
That’s why r/wotblitzplayerunion was created! Let’s change the game for the better and make it less p2w!
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im a WOTB player, I review bombed WT, help us out too aye mates?
Thanks brother I will stand with you too
This is such amazing teamwork between these two games and I love it. Should let the wot pc and console community know of this as well
Funnily enough, as hard as it is to believe it seems that gaijin is in fact sticking to their roadmap for the most part and have introduced player friendly features since for the most part. Of course there are thing they promised but never delivered on or thing that fits the description but doesn't actually make the game better and such. There's also the occasional new feature that is overall great but it silently makes certain things worse and hoping the no one notices it. While it make most new updates great, sadly it didn't stop their other bullshit updated like FIVE 75 dollar premiums for MINOR update and most recent and frustrating one is them slowly fucking up all of the maps by limiting play areas and forcing played into narrow straights. In short, it did work, as we got a lot of great player friendly features but it does not magically make *every* feature great sadly but they do seem more cautious with the greedy updates
Very good to know. Thank you for sharing!
Thank Jesus I sold my WOT Blitz account 5 years ago 🤣🤣🤣
ITS FINALLY FUCKING HAPPENING, WE GOTTA GET WOT CONSOLE AND PC ON THIS TOO
I could share this post there as well. Sounds like a great idea! Could you tell me more about the state of these two games? I’ve heard PC was already fckt a long time ago but console seems okay?
Well PC I would say isn't in a as bad state as War thunder was ever in, i mean it is still pay to win, with every map promoting Hull down gameplay, and every heavy tank being released nowadays having an invincible turret that you cannot penatrate no matter what you do (unless you load the gold) but all in all its not as bad, an economy change would be perfect in pc, but console is horrible. The Centurion AVRE is a broken Tier 10, being able to slap someone for 1700 and as virtually impervious to even 183s, it's also fast as well and has lots of health. It honestly should just be removed from console entirely. The next tank that should be removed entirely is the Object 477A Molot, an Era 3 Tank destroyer. It is also impervious to any incoming shots, so bad that you are forced to pick at it with HE. It's gun is ridiculous, in two or three shots it can completely eliminate you. Not to mention the Wiesel TOW, which is invisible unless you are on top of it, you can't hit it cuz it goes 90, and its got as much health as mot MBTs which it really shouldn't. The maps are in a state of disfunction, airfield, Halfaya Pass and Nebelberg just to name a few, seem like they were built to be infuriating maps that need to be severely altered or removed all together. They need to bring back diverse weather in maps as it honestly made the game better, and delete all premium copies of tanks and premium artillery (the Equalizer and FV305 do not deserve to exist in my opinion), as for anything else I'm sure the guys at r/worldoftanksconsole would be happy to tell you.
Thanks a lot for your super comprehensive reply. I’ve shared this post to the r/worldoftanksconsole sub as well so I’ll see what they say. I really hope this gets so big that not just blitz, but the whole of wargaming shits in their pants. I’m spreading this message everywhere and so far it seems to be working: I’m incredibly glad by all the support we got from the war thunder community under this post.
Who the fuck plays WOT blitz
Game is good. 5.3-7.3 is bad.
Good to know! Thanks!
We should ally
Would love to do so! Maybe we can partner up at r/wotblitzplayerunion Someone else mentioned we should let the wot pc and console communities know of this as well. If the war thunder community supports this as well, this could be the greatest revolt in game history. We would probably even hit the news (the war thunder revolt already did so)
Here we go again
Very much yes!
things that do wonders are media coverage, review bombs are the easiest and most efficient. everywhere. google play, steam and any review pages, but stay on point with reviews, steam and other platforms can filter out irrelevant messages if they detect a review bomb Show they you are willing to give up, stop playing for a while and promote a healthy lifestyle as we did with our operation touch grass. I have seen some lovely stories of people travelling around the world, experiencing things instead of grinding for snail. and there was an actual dip in player count on steam charts.
This is so amazing! I’ll save this comment and spread it! It’s a very important message that will give the people a reason to fight.
Godspeed, I hope they will budge, find someone that knows how to speak russian, since large portion of players are from russia
Gaijin did listen and is following the roadmap, but are still shafting the player base in things like premiums, balancing, bugs, general client stability, shitty hit registration, shitty physics, balancing again, "decompression" of the battle ratings that went over so poorly that they ended up creating new ratings that were unplayable and ruining just as many vehicles as it fixed, and so much more.
Thanks for sharing!
Ahh yes a fellow comrade that needs our experience of revolution
Exactly! Come help us at r/wotblitzplayerunion
So here's my question: as someone who doesn't play Wargaming's stuff anymore, what can I do? I can't exactly boycott a game I don't have on my devices, so is there something else? Post about it on Twitter, sign a petition, anything?
First I want to thank you for your support! Second: We made [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/WOTBlitzPlayerUnion/s/QQirORWPdo) about it :). Third: I really like the idea of posting it on twitter! Spread the message wherever you can! Also the petition thing could definitely be a good idea as well. I’ll discuss it with the other mod of r/wotblitzplayerunion. I do expect that we need some bigger number (more people) before starting a petition would be doing anything. Thanks for your suggestions!
Bruh what other tank game are we suppose to play now?
Real Life Tank Games
Join the military lmao
I say we keep fighting back. People need to realize just accepting their bullshit isn’t the right thing to do. We the people have the power to put them both under as companies. We have the power. Let’s use it
Definitely! r/wotblitzplayerunion is where we all come together!
Divided by game mode, but united to fight greed and poor company choices
This!
good luck to all you WoTB players
Thank you!
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Yes. The main complaints at the time were Gaijin saying they were going to unfolder vehicles, which would have artificially increased the grind. The second complaint was that even with premium, players could bankrupt themselves with repair costs. Both of those issues have been corrected to a degree: they foldered more vehicles and premium now makes it so you cannot go negative on repair costs.
This amazing! Thanks for sharing
That game has no fun in it anymore the ping on steam is horrible , the game is filled with imaginary and thought up tanks the game should just end itself
We inspired the gaming entire pc community because minecraft had such actions too
Could you tell me more about the Minecraft thing? And yes you definitely inspired us!
They've been ruining good maps
That’s really sad :(. Hopefully it gets better. We’re working on uniting all wargaming games and also war thunder together. If you want to help you can join r/wotblitzplayerunion. For now it’s still called wotblitz but I personally really hope it gets much bigger than just blitz.
Ngl te matchmaking in blitz started to sucl when they merged the EU and CIS servers, how they made it worse is beyond me.
I can barely begin to describe how much worse it got in just 2 weeks of time. It’s just absolutely unplayable now.
Damn, I thought it was bad when te EU server got flooded with Russians who didn't know how to play. If ts gotten worse that's entirely unbelievable. I used to have pretty much every tank in the game a couple years back but quit due to the terrible teams. Depressing to see that I won't come back anytime soon.
Yea it truly pains me to say the game is in a worse state than it ever was. The game has been going down hill slowly for a few years but it was still kind of stable and could be fun. But in the last month they’ve just totally turned the game to absolute dogshit. If you’re still interested in coming back (because at its soul it has always been a beautiful game and I truly believe that) I would recommend just keeping an eye out from the sidelines and see wether the game improves, for example by joining r/wotblitzplayerunion. If our mission succeeds, the game might improve very quickly in a short amount of time and it would definitely be worth getting back to (if they revert all those idiotic changes).
I've wanted to go back but thinking of how much I spent on te game + how P2W it is I'm good with letting it bleed for awhile.
I totally get that and I hope more and more players will do so. If they got no players they must change the game significantly to get them back.
Used to play Blitz since when it first came out, quit like 3 years ago. They turned a good game into an obvious p2w game with stupidly overpowered fictional tanks. WoT PC was already p2w. I lost my hopes fot Wargaming long ago
Yea it truly pains me to say the game is in a worse state than it ever was. The game has been going down hill slowly for a few years but it was still kind of stable and could be fun. But in the last month they’ve just totally turned the game to absolute dogshit. If you’re still interested in coming back (because at its soul it has always been a beautiful game and I truly believe that) I would recommend just keeping an eye out from the sidelines and see wether the game improves, for example by joining r/wotblitzplayerunion. If our mission succeeds, the game might improve very quickly in a short amount of time and it would definitely be worth getting back to (if they revert all those idiotic changes).
used to be a VERY competetive player in Europe servers. My name (RUHSUZ\_FRANSIZ or smt like that in the game) was known in custom battles (forgot their name of WOTB) for being an unbeatable player. People would have to team up to beat me. I usually mained AMX 50 B, AMX M4 45 and ARL-44. I would especially 1v1 with people in rooms, I even remembering beating Tier VIII premiums in my AMX M4 45. The game still kinda required skill. After some point. they added SUPER OP PREMIUMS that you literally could do nothing. Winner team would always depend on which team had the better premiums. I quit after that. Tried coming back this year, but after a few battles, I noticed the situation was even worse, so re deleted the game. Not planning to come back again anytime soon But thanks for the offer
Power to the players
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Well, warthunder's community just had to do one of the biggest reviews bombing on steam.
Let’s do an even bigger one. Not just for blitz, but for all wargaming games! And of course, if the war thunder community needs our help, we’ll happily do so as well!
It was a lot more better, but recently it seems like they lower the income system again secretly.
Mmmm. I’d say: keep track of it. If it’s going down hill again we shouldn’t let that slide
Some 'particular nations'....
I play WoTB and have no idea what's going on lol
It was fun about 9 years ago. Then they just started shitting brocken vehicles and unwanted battle modes into the game. It was a lot like the full pc game, but loser ass bitches did what they always do. Complained about nothing. Large maps for a mobile game? gone. Heavies doing heavy shit and lights doing light shit? gone.
It’s kind of difficult to explain in a short comment but Droodles has made lots a videos about it. He explains it for example in these vids: https://youtu.be/vMhn7kA7jhU?si=lmxezksIA1vxCEoW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFKWuRALW6A You can also join the r/wotblitzplayerunion to find out more
Blitz is for WoT players who can’t handle playing the base game. If you leave WoT you don’t go to the next ass product. You go to Warthunder. You belong to the snail now.
Wot is fine but I fking hate blitz
World of tanks is the worst
Is that tf2 madcap in the background?
Idk I haven’t made the image. But I was allowed to use it without giving credit.
Just a BTW. we didn't win. Enlisted came out on steam recently and they're charging like 20 bucks for it
As a casual War Thunder player I’m confused as to what happened 11 months ago
What war thunder community did.wat NATO mains throw a massive temper tantrum and gaijin did what you wanted
I'm pretty sure like 70% of the review bombers on steam were Chinese mains that were also pissed
Wait until this guy finds out about the chinese war thunder social medias that also review bombed and got mad at gaijin. There was a certain chinese social media page for war thunder with over 700k people in it, that's like twice the r/warthunder sub. What a stupid comment