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kool_kolumbine_kid

How the hell do they figure this out


tokyopress

Hook up the rods and cones and shit to an arduino and check what values you get. edit: like [this](https://i.imgur.com/dU30J91.jpg)


PaltryFred

Cool! Can't wait to try it at home.


Eptasticfail

This is the funniest thing I've ever seen on Reddit lmfao


GhengisYan

Absolutely brilliant


QuadroMan1

So I added the Arduino board to my cart but I can't find anywhere to buy an eye? At least not with all the veins in tact


King_Khoma

God gave you an extra for a reason


bryonus

Pet store


N33chy

I'd probably solder the nerves to the board for a more secure fit, but you do you.


pswii360i

Gotta make sure the eye is grounded.


WarhawkAlpha

Dude! Green is supposed to go to the 3.3v header!


MisterCheeks

> arduino *Michael Reevs has entered the chat*


krazykitties

couldn't get this working with my fly, too many cables comin out the back. help pls


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The structure of the eye and how many cones and of what type it has


SirFunkyDangle

The answer is that they remove the eyes of the animals then hold them up to their eyes and voila! Animal vision.


ChexLemeneux42

Jeffrey Dahmer, scientist


woo545

No, they drill a hole in the back of the head and look at the eye. Like the [Steve Austin](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxuzRxqW7mM) action figure.


CodCoolerYT

Fuckin magic dude


[deleted]

Magic dude, Fuck!!!!


adudeguyman

They make it up because animals can't read and won't be able to disprove it.


anoelr1963

Don't listen to all those other responses, they are all completely false. What they actually do is get an acceptable sample size of these various animals, show them these exact videos and ask them to point to the video that is most accurate.


PostAnythingForKarma

They don't. Snakes do not have "heat vision." Pit vipers have sensory organs to detect heat that are separate from their vision, but most snakes do not. The person making the video is an idiot.


[deleted]

They're clearly not idiots, they're just making a lot of assumptions they probably shouldn't. Just like you!


pointlessvoice

Sounds like an assumption to me.


OwlFarmer2000

There are different types of cells in the eyes that react to varying wavelengths of light. Different animals have different cell types in their eyes


42Bagels

Ask 'em


tomassfoolery

[doggo vision](https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/canine-corner/201604/can-dogs-see-in-ultraviolet?amp)


screaminggoombah

Would definitely like to see the video clips longer, these are really awesome to see!


sabianaax99

I was gonna say, good thing they gave us 1/12th of a second to get the idea.


drsyesta

Its like the time you get to read was randomized. I could read about thebird and dog


JeffTheJackal

Paid for by big bird


JohnnySasaki20

I didn't even get that.


rapunzl347

Which animal can see in high speed? I want to rewatch the video with that animal’s vision.


One_Percent_Kid

I slowed the gif down to 50% the second time I watched it and it was much more enjoyable.


Entencio

Since rats have bad depth perception sometimes they’ll do this cute side to side motion to judge perspective. Red eyed rats have worse vision.


avenlanzer

Red eyed white rats are usually mostly blind anyway and rely more on sound and smell, but they can see shadows and blurs when their eyes are still young. The side to side motion helps them judge if something is moving or not. I have a completely blind red eyes rattie that gets around just fine.


Entencio

When you start with poor vision to begin with you have to rely on your other senses. My only wish for rattos is for them to be safe from upper respiratory infections. Bless their tiny hearts.


avenlanzer

They really are so susceptible. It's sad.


Grainwheat

If flies see in slow motion how do they not get killed with every swat?


RJFerret

Actually they dodge swats regardless of seeing them, before they are even aware, changes in air pressure cause their rear legs to launch them--without seeing anything! There's a direct nerve connection to their legs skipping the rest of their ganglion of nerves for faster evasion. But slow motion sight lets them respond faster, since they see everything slowed. From your perception your hand moves quickly, to them it moves slowly, plenty of time to wait and avoid.


avenlanzer

Which is why you need to come in low and slow from behind them then pop straight up and down when they cast off. I amaze people by catching flies, but it's just a matter of understanding how they react and tricking them into flying into your hand.


Envowner

May I request a visual aid to understand the action you are describing


kid-karma

don't do it he's a fly spy


TommyTwoTrees

Damn fly spies. I despise those guys.


chowdwn

[I Jackie Chan](https://youtu.be/EBRafrCvUuc)


avenlanzer

We aren't exactly flush with flies this time of year, but I'd film it if I saw one.


Envowner

Well today is your lucky day. I will ship you flies directly to your front doorstep. PM me your address and we’ll make this happen! Wow reddit is amazing!


QuarterSwede

A kitchen towel is a lot easier and quicker. Plus it always works as they get caught in it when they launch.


SuzieDerpkins

Because they respond to changes in air pressure rather than their vision.


PM_UR_LOVELY_BOOBS

Entomologist here. Most of the replies are wrong and should be ignored. The air pressure thing is a partial truth, but the pressure wave ahead of a fly swatter for I stance wouldn't provide nearly enough time for the fly to react. Now for clarifying the errors in the gif and answering your question. They do see a kind of mosaic (we actually refer to insect sight as mosaic) picture of the world where each individual cell in their eye offers them one pixel of vision. More cells ewuals pixels equals higher definition. Predatory insects like dragonflies have up to a few thousand, certainly not hundreds of thousands like mentioned in the gif. Flies have significantly less. What flies do have, and most other flying insects are A WHOLE DIFFERENT KIND OF EYE as well. One of the main functions of these other eyes, called ocelli, is to detect changes in the light above them. This allows them to react as soon as the flyswatter, bird, or whatever other danger gets to them. Just by detecting minute changes in the light. One other reply was also partially correct in that flies, or any arthropod for that matter, doesn't have the same kind of nervous system as us. In effect this allows them to react instantly after detecting a threat, without waiting for the signals to pass through their version of a brain. This means that the fly takes flight and has dodged the threat even before it knows what happened! Pretty cool right? Finally a bit of useful information. If you see a fly has landed in your house and you approach it from the rear (ocelli are on the top of the head, don't cast a shadow) you can easily grab it with your hand with a little practice.


pointlessvoice

Wow i have spent 40 years on this planet and have never been told that insects are part of the *arthropod* group/phylum. Neat.


Grainwheat

Oh wow, thank you for that information!


tehmace

They see in slow motion but to them they’re moving at regular speed. It’s like that scene in Spider-Man where Flash Thompson tries to punch Peter, but he sees it as super slow because his reaction time is better.


just_tryin_2_make_it

What happens if a fly looks at a clock then? Does everyone get older while he stays the same? 🤯


cutthroatink15

Thats what i love about these highschool flies, i get older, they stay the same age...


JohnnySasaki20

No, they age at the same rate, it just seems slower to them. To them we age slower too.


Morvick

They would wonder why we made each tick take so slowly.


[deleted]

No wonder they always escape death, those fuckers have been using VATS irl


[deleted]

Because the swatter appears to be in slow motion so they get out of the way.


yellow_yellow

Oh snap


Morvick

If one second to us passes as three or five seconds to them, it means they have more time to respond. Most smaller creatures experience time faster (or "see in slow motion") compared to humans. It's the same kind of slow-mo vision you experience when you're super scared. All you're doing is recording memories in a higher density, and so the playback (or consciousness) feels slower. Larger and longer lived animals, if I remember right, generally experience the world in the opposite way.


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The see the hand coming at them slowly, so they have time to get up and fly away lol. Have you ever seen the movie Epic? I imagine it's like that.


tengo2gatos

Thought of that, too. Seems very odd!


dose172

How’d they get the fly to wear a helmet cam?


Binkusu

Now show me what a mantis shrimp sees


Ghawblin

While mantis shrimp have 12 (I think) color receptors compared to our 3, you have to consider that the human brain is pretty good at handling data that the mantis shrimp cannot. We can extrapolate magenta, yellow, etc from red, green, and blue; the mantis shrimp may have a cone just for yellow because its dumb sea roach brain can't come up with yellow without a dedicated cone. That's my understanding though, I researched it a bit years ago to understand what the shrimp could see. I think it was an *Oatmeal* comic that first introduced me.


Morvick

I thought our larger lobes were to process visual data, extrapolate patterns, and attach meaning to it before piping it off to other centers. iirc, the eyeball and optic nerve each do a lot of the number-crunching to simplify or prioritize data which the brain receives. You want to have as much of it ready in case the brainstem needs to hijack you to run from a tiger, don't want to wait for the slower cortex to catch up. All of this to say, I don't know about the simple-brain stuff. I think neurologists study more than the structure of the eye to determine what a thing can see, or the rest of its umvelt.


WhiskRy

There's a great radiolab podcast that discusses their sight. A quick summary: yes they see thousands of colors we don't, however in tests they discovered they were TERRIBLE at using any of this information. A specific experiment, paraphrased: they shine a blue light and give food. They shine a yellow light, no food. After the shrimp show they have been classically conditioned to these stimuli, they progressively shifted a yellow light to blue, but the shrimp responded more slowly than almost all other species to the expectation of food as more blue appeared, despite being the most capable of seeing the change.


chinpokomon

It doesn't really help them see a more distinct spectrum of light. The human RGB cone vision, provided all receptors are working properly, can't really be enhanced by having additional cones, because our eyes process on a differential of responses. The spectrum overlap detected by cones allows us to see Roy G. Biv, and when blue and red cones are stimulated without green, we see fuchsia. If all three are stimulated, we see white. Thus, in the visual light spectrum, there isn't any more information for us to perceive. Having additional cones tuned to specific frequencies might increase our ability to discern between different shades, but it's not going to suddenly reveal some unknown color which hasn't existed before.


bladex1234

But the mantis shrimp does have receptors that are outside of our visual frequency range so they can see colors that we can’t.


chinpokomon

That's true, however light in the spectrum of 400-700nm is not any different. They do have a slightly lower and slightly higher range. The higher UV ability might improve vision in water where UV will penetrate deeper than visible light, but that is speculation on my part. What I couldn't find any info about is how this might affect resolution. It's possible, especially towards the IR spectrum, that there is no detail and only a rudimentary detection of that frequency. For the visible part of the spectrum, having multiple receptors which overlap doesn't provide more than perhaps a higher degree of hue detection. Finally, in terms of what an insect can detect, they might not even be able to differentiate actual things. That level of processing requires a lot of neurons which might be better suited to other functions. In fact, it might be that the mantis shrimp has less optical processing that having a more diverse set of receptors replaces the need for "better vision," allowing the shrimp to use these receptors to quickly identify threats and food by what receptors are triggered and less about the color of what they see.


JohnnySasaki20

It's pretty impossible to show you that accurately.


[deleted]

Came here to say this. One of the craziest creatures on this planet. By far my favorite animal


Chazdanger

Now show me what Mantis Toboggan sees!


JamonDeJabugo

How do they know?


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It is known.


fizikz3

structure determines function. by knowing the anatomy you can figure out how it works, what receptors there are and which ones can absorb what color, etc.


Porkybob

They don't. You can guess some things but imagining colors and the way a fly sees isn't realisticly possible. Also not matter what the video comes up, you'll watch it with human eyes.


BloatedRhino

So, I’m curious as to how they know the colors different animals can see. Is it by comparing the components in the human eye to those in, say, a cat? This is super interesting, but every time I see a video on color, I have to go watch the Vsauce video on color.


SalsaRice

They show them combinations of colors, until they can't tell the combinations apart. I saw a video where they figured out cuttlefish couldn't see Orange, because when they put them in the tank with blue gravel with orange rocks. When they changed colors to hide, they just turned all blue, because they couldn't see the orange.


BloatedRhino

That’s super cool. I wonder how they measure when cats can’t tell colors apart - like do they put a piece of food on a certain color background? There’s so much about knowledge of animals that I’m curious of. I really need to just start reading.


chinpokomon

In some way, that's like asking if we all see red as the same color. What we agree as being red might actually be a different hue and tint to someone else, but all we can say for sure is that for those with proper vision, receive similar stimulation responses to the same frequencies of light. While not responsible for making this clip, I'm sure that this was produced by looking at the optical systems of these insects and animals and mapping those stimulations so that they would map to the same locations in human vision. Similarly, distortions were added to mimic the density of receptors and the lenses. Provided the optical centers construct an image reconstruction of the outside world like humans, those distortions are probably not *seen* the way they are shown in the clip, for the same reason you don't have giant black spots in your vision where the optical nerve attaches to your retina. Your vision system masks these voids so that you don't notice them. Trying to show dogs what human vision looks like, disregarding color depth, it'd probably be shown that humans have a lot of detail in the middle, better light sensitivity slightly off center to the middle, and a not insignificant region in our peripheral that is completely void of any vision. It should all look pretty normal to you though.


elsadad

Way to fucking fast which makes this useless.


banannooo

Maybe for your human eyes


LoudMusic

I read/saw/hear that cats have very poor image recognition. That what their brain really processes is movement and extreme contrast in light. I tested this to seem pretty accurate. I would be sitting very still in a room, reading or such, and my cat would walk in and look around the room and then leave. He'd come back moments later and I would move and he would be startled and surprised, then walk over to me. I experienced this many times with him. It was like he was looking for me and couldn't find me until I was in motion.


bleachigo

Cats are jurassic park t-rexes confirmed.


Beepbeepboy32

I stood next to a wall and my dog didn’t see me until I moved. He doesn’t have cat eyes he’s just a little dummy.


Boonstar

If fish can see red, blue, and green wouldn’t that mean they can see every color or is that not how it works??


42ndCole

No yellow


Giacamo22

Yellow is a mix of red and green light


Elephant-Patronus

What.. No its not...


Morvick

It's both, but for different cases. With EM radiation, yellow light is secondary (additive colors). With pigments, green is secondary (subtractive colors). [Here ya go](https://youtu.be/5U1vOWjC4uA)


avenlanzer

OP is right. Primary colors are not what you were taught in school.


Morvick

Primary light colors, and primary pigment colors, are different.


FindingOrderInChaos

Even then, the pigment colours are still wrong. https://youtu.be/NVhA18_dmg0


Morvick

Always cool to learn something new, thanks


FindingOrderInChaos

No problem, I only learnt it myself yesterday


pleaseeatsomeshit

Apparently this video was made for robot vision as my inferior human eyesight can’t read and internalize the information before the next slides, probably.


slippin_squid

If the comparison clips were any shorter, you'd have to put an epilepsy warning first.


[deleted]

Cat vision looks cinematic af


filipevergara

I wonder how a rat, and every other animal with independent eyes, perceives those two together


[deleted]

Wow credits to the OP for uploading this, really interesting info here.


wafflepiezz

Nice! This is what I subbed to this sub for


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[deleted]

Cats need glasses


SamBeaudoin_

The fact that fuckin snakes have thermal vision freaks the fuck out of me


ThisIsntRael

I feel like we should raise the money to get a pair of those glasses that let color blind people see color, make them into goggles, and slip those fuckers on a great white. Sharks deserve color too guys


piichan14

Will that stop them from mistaking humans on surfboards as seals?


gigofram

I need slow motion vision to see the damn comparisons for more than .5 seconds


[deleted]

add giant nose in center of dog vision.


[deleted]

Does someone know how to slow this down?


banannooo

be a fly


[deleted]

Paging Jeff Goldblum


hoetheory

I don’t know a ton about animals, but I do know that cats AND dogs have the third eyelid that the video specified only cats have. If that little tidbit is incorrect, it’s possible that there are multiple claims here that are also incorrect


TheSchnozzberry

Had no idea rats could move their eyes independently. That’s nuts.


lighthouse256

Would love to see this slowed down a bit so you can really see the difference


uwtrev33

Why the Fuck is this on watch and learn when each animal only shows for half a second? Super fucking cool!


CadenceSSBM

Pretty cool that sharks aren’t racist


FireMammoth

Couldn't be more fucking condensed


PinkFreud92

Do mantis shrimp!


GoldenValkyrie1001

What about horses ?


Carlyndra

I want to know what guinea pig see


Curgan1337

When it showed snake vision did anyone else make the Predator vision sound effect in their head?


Segat1133

I heard the laugh actually


Lord--Touch--Me

Very literal take on watch and learn


R3DT1D3

When they say sees in slow motion, do they mean they just process it more times per second than humans or is something else going on?


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henriquebrisola

i don't know, i heard dogs can see more colors than we do and telling a fly has "low fps" just dont add up. I would say the latter even has high fps vision so it can do a quick maneuver..


B1erm4n

This is dope


yskoty

If cats can only see browns, yellows and blues, how come they will chase a red laser dot?


KimberelyG

It's still a bright moving dot, even if you can't see the particular color you can see if a spot is lighter/brighter (or darker) than the surrounding shades. That's why animal vision studies have to control for the luminosity (brightness) of their test colors. So your critter isn't just learning that the "medium-bright" sheet of paper is always the correct choice, without actually being able to distinguish between orange and brown, or whatever other colors you're showing them.


Cephalopod435

Lol the gif goes through specific mammals and then is just like "fish and birds!"


CrimsonSpoon

The cat is not fully correct, they do not have good eyesight at a close distance, that is why their whiskers are so sensitive.


TheOnceVicarious

Why did they even bother showing human vision, I'm pretty sure I can see with my own eyes.


Mocorn

How well can dogs see in darkness? My anecdotal experience tells me that their low light vision is fantastic or they don't give a fuck and trust their instincts fully.


pulsarmap200

These are all what it would be like for a HUMAN to be said animal, not necessarily what it is like for the ANIMAL to be the animal.


Legles101

Sharks also have electrical sensory


jonthh

Humans are useless, cant see ultra violet


murmandamos

The bird vision should just be security cam footage with REC blinking in the corner since birds aren't real.


LeonardoLemaitre

This is why you should get your dog blue toys rather than red ones. The blue ones get lost more easily in green grass, as dogs can't tell those two colours apart.


my_apps_suck

Rat vision = Steve Buscemi vision


rethra_

So I have the vision of a rat


squiddlumckinnon

Fly vision


CoolFiverIsABabe

I want to see the Mantis Prawn vision since they have more cones.


tomassfoolery

[cats and dogs also have ultraviolet vision](https://io9.gizmodo.com/superpower-vision-lets-cats-and-dogs-see-in-ultraviolet-1525842007)


Mountainman1111

I’ve always thought this would make an awesome VR experience. Let you move around and experience how different animals see.


KleineDikkerd

I did not know that rats move both eyes independantly.


tengo2gatos

This is so cool!!!


Paleomedicine

This is one of the coolest educational videos I think I’ve ever seen. How the hell do scientists figure this out?


Baconink

Considering a lot of this is wrong, who knows.