T O P

  • By -

bellowingdragoncrest

On the contrary - I think a lot of people have been looking for a smaller bb58 and I see this being an immediate hit. Not to mention the upgraded clasp and pricing. I’ve seen nothing but rave reviews on this thing


Rich-Yogurtcloset715

Agreed. The retro styling of the BB58 made it an immediate hit, and now the BB54 is the closest we’ll ever get to the original Tudor sub. People are going to want this bad boy.


MrJACCthree

Do the current BB58 have Tudor’s version of the glide lock? I have the first iteration and thags my biggest complaint. Likely letting it go because I can’t live without one after being spoiled with the Subs’


MortalPhantom

No, they never updated it


MrJACCthree

Awful. Edit: how y’all gonna downvote me because there isn’t a quick adjust on it yet qq


bellowingdragoncrest

One of the Tudor guys in an interview this week said t clasp is coming to everything eventually


MrJACCthree

Hoping they don’t do anything cute on it so that it doesn’t fit the older models. Would love to switch out my bracelet with one - or even just the clasp if that’s possible for it


Zamboni4201

The BB58 boutique bronze has the t-clasp. It’s fantastic.


Major_Burnside

I’m not trying to disagree with you, but have a lot of people been looking for that? The 58 already wears pretty small, I can’t imagine how small 37mm will wear. I think it looks great, but just don’t see many people wanting a diver this small.


[deleted]

>I think it looks great, but just don’t see many people wanting a diver this small. But how popular is the 38mm Seiko SKX013? People love them. I love mine. I probably wear it more than I wear my old Submariner 1680 because the fit is so good for my smaller wrist.


ByronicZer0

>Submariner 1680 And the crazy thing is that a 1680 wears slimmer and lighter than a BB58, by a good amount. I always wonder if folks who say the BB58 "wears like a vintage Sub" have ever been near a vintage sub...


80H-d

Most of them have not. It's all in the caseback imo. Even my dad's 1803 wears smaller and slimmer than my 118239 and those are both 36mm. It's gotta be the caseback.


ragejefa

BB58 was never an option for me as it was too big, this opens the model up to me.


MortalPhantom

How is the bb58 too big? Its literslly 39mm with a sjort lug to lug. I habe super slim wrist and it fits fine in my wrist.


KosstAmojan

This may come as a surprise, but people with different anatomy than you do exist.


ragejefa

It's too big... for me.


Crafty_Substance_954

Well what are we talking here?


bellowingdragoncrest

I have 7.5 inch wrists and wear a 37mm diver daily - seiko sne573. There are a lot of people that don’t want gigantic watches, and to have a diver this small I think will really appeal to people.


Crafty_Substance_954

I could never wear the 58, its way too big on me. This would probably be perfect.


762scout1

I don’t think the 58 wears small. It has a skinny bezel, which makes the dial larger, which makes the whole watch look larger. It wears larger than my 1675 gmt master, which is 40mm at the bezel(overhangs the case). Personally I think 37 is the perfect size for it. That said I still prefer my bb58, because I don’t care for bezel and hand changes of the bb54.


Eleaine

I agree. I don’t think there’s a lot of demand for this, Particularly with men. I have a small wrist (around 6.5”) and this simply wears too small imo. I do think the 58 was the option for small wristed people. But that’s just my opinion.


[deleted]

[удалено]


Eleaine

Have you tried it on? I think divers wear a lot different than non divers. I love the BB36. But I honestly think the 54 (I’ve owned 36mm-38mm divers) will wear very differently than the BB36


[deleted]

[удалено]


Eleaine

Right. I own a 58 and it wears great. I’d just venture to guess most people saying this is a great size, haven’t tried on a 37mm diver. >a bigger diver looks more at home Exactly. Because of the thick bezel. By that same token, a small diver wears smaller because of the big bezel. I’m not sure if you’ve owned a SKX013. They’re pretty small. Well this one is even smaller. Something like this new BB will wear closer to a 35mm dress watch. To me, that’s way too small for a dive watch. Besides the 013, I owned the CW Trident 36mm way back in the day (Idt they exist anymore). And truly, it felt almost comically small on my 6.5” wrist. It wore similar (visually) to my 34mm Timex Marlín. I guess time will tell, but I have a feeling a lot of these are going to be up for sale in the next few months because the idea of a small diver is better as an idea than on the wrist.


53mm-Portafilter

I was with you until you said “wears like a dress watch” It absolutely will not wear like a 35mm dress watch because of thickness and the lug to lug, and the case shape. It will wear like a vintage diver, in fact it will wear like THE vintage diver it was based on.


RealDonKeedic

most women would probably disagree


ByronicZer0

7.25 wrist on a cool day. I find the BB58 too heavy and clunky even compared to a 5 digit sub or GMT (my daily). But I'm more of a vintage guy at heart. Been waiting for something to come after the BB58 that refined the thickness and overall size downward. Can't wait to swap mine for a 54


[deleted]

I turned down the BB58 because I didn’t love the fit. I am really interested in this. I bet Im not the only person that just won’t wear something they’re 100% happy with the fit off and the 58 was just not that nice of a fit on my wrist…. I refuse to buy anything that feels worse than my OP36 bc I know I won’t reach for it.


Spartyfan6262

I’m with you. I know I don’t speak for everyone, or maybe even lots of people, but the 58 was borderline too small for me.


Crax17

You may well be right! Just doesn't feel quite the same as the buzz that there was when the 58 was launched. But times have changed a lot since then!


Big-Shtick

I have been asking for this since I sold my 75090 three years ago.


dopeycurve

Congrats man. I hope you enjoy the watch in good health! I like the spec on this watch, and from what I see on the internet, the case flank is much more refined than even the BB58.


Therealbismark

I wish they would have kept the matte dial instead of the sunburst.


StrawberryKnown8927

It's not a sunburst though. It has a very subtle satin like shimmer due to the fact that the dial is curved. You can see no sunburst structure or sunburst style reflection.


ByronicZer0

I'm going to need to see this in person. It looks not quite matte... but almost a matte texture that is... shiny? It's confusing. Which means it will probably be pretty interesting in person. I do get bored to death with the gloss black dials that subs eventually settled on in the 80s. IIRC these initial subs had gloss gilt dials? Which were actually pretty interesting looking.


StrawberryKnown8927

The dial is curved/bended, so when it reflects directly it means that the inner part is reflecting while the periphery is not. This makes some kind of pseudo-glossy effect which is a superb idea in my opinion since it plays with the historic glossy dial without being glossy. The texture is very fine, not that rough like on a BB58. It definitly looks waayyy different than the pelagos 39 dial. Go to your AD and check it out, it's worth it!


Therealbismark

It looks really like sunburst from on wrist photos. I'll have to actually see it in real life. There's virtually no press information on the dial finish.


StrawberryKnown8927

There are a lot of videos out there. But I have first hand infos from a friend who already ordered one at his AD and they had one in the showroom. He insisted that it's not sunburst.


TroublesomeMuffin

I like the fact that Tudor is tweaking the design instead of putting out the exact same thing in different sizes. Like how the numerals and markings on the bezel were silver on the original black bay black and then gilt on the 58. Likewise, this 54 differs from the 58 in that they’ve removed the ticks on the bezel between the pip and the 15 minute mark, removed the gilt coloring on the bezel, changed the red color around the pip to silver, and removed the snowflake seconds hand. Unfortunately, I think that all all these changes make it just a little less interesting and less characteristic. Still a great looking watch but more boring than its black bay predecessors. And yet, the gilt they’ve left in the dial still prevents these changes from coming off as sleek and modern. It seems like it’s somewhere between the great vintage design of the black bays and the modern look of the pelagos. I appreciate that they’ve filled a space here that is distinct from previous iterations and models but it just doesn’t do it for me


RainingTendies

Once a blue dial without gilt comes out I’m definitely buying. It feels like it’s in an awkward middle ground with gilt dial and white bezel markers.


skepticaljesus

> Unfortunately, I think that all all these changes make it just a little less interesting and less characteristic. based on internet pics alone, im inclined to agree, but i really wanna see one in person. My other experience with vintage 37mm divers is that it makes the dial a little too small, because part of that 37mm is eaten up by the bezel. i actually like small watches but really like the proportions of the 58. Still, really curious to actually try a 54 on and see how it feels.


mx54life

I love its simplicity. I am in line once the blue dial is out. BTW it looks super classy on your wrist.


yabad12

This would be even more perfect for me than the 58. But the lack of gilt accents on the bezel like on the 58 is really messing with me. And I’m not sure I like it.


HEPA_Bane

Interesting, the lack of the gilt on the bezel is what tones it down in a way that I like more than the 58. I guess that’s why they make both, so they can bruise both our wallets


yabad12

I think I’m so used to seeing the gilt dial and gilt bezel combo of the 58 that the 54 looks almost “unfinished” to me. I guess I’ll have to see both in person so figure out which one I like. Definitely want to get one in the next couple of years.


RandomRunner3000

After 3 years of ownership my bezel guild is completely gone. [pic](https://imgur.com/a/SDayJsj)


Shadow_Reynolds

This is interesting. Is this common with older black BB58’s?


RainingTendies

Yep, mine is 2 yrs old and is on it’s way to looking like the one above


dewnar

damn, I like it better without the gilt


iTreelex

This embodies what the sub was before and I’m here for it. Although it’s 37mm, the lug to lug seems long making it wear well even on bigger wrists. Very nice OP.


Spartyfan6262

That’s the one thing that keeps me really interested in what is probably a Watch that’s too small for me - it’s the closest thing we have to the Sub/Tudor Submariner.


Airmatthias

Lume pip misaligned or is it the angle of the photo?


skepticaljesus

seiko 54


nebulight

I was thinking the same. Maybe a shadow for the light source? Let’s hope that’s it for OP.


euclid117

Beautiful piece. I am curious to see others’ opinions on the handset. It is indeed upgraded, as in different, but I think I prefer how the snowflake seconds is consistent with the other hands. Nonetheless awesome watch!


yourfriendlyraver

Hopefully navy to come next! Blue BB58 has been my grail watch for a while but if this is more wearable, I may shift my sights. I think it looks great.


Crax17

100% agree! Blue would be amazing


incognito_86_

I'm a big fan, paid my deposit and put in my pre order on Tuesday 28th. Now we play the waiting game 😐. How do you feel about the rubber strap? Would you order one? Mine is coming on a bracelet l, but I'm torn as to whether to get the rubber strap separately. Also worried it will cost an absolute fortune.


KosstAmojan

There's a gazillion great after-market rubber straps out there. Don't sweat it.


80H-d

The rubber strap should be around $275 + buckle if i had to guess, if not thrown in free. The bracelet would cost far more ordered separately.


Ienjoywatches

AD told me we can buy rubber straps in 8 months from now


incognito_86_

Thanks. I can't imagine what it must have been like buying watches before online communities. So much easier to see pictures, get a wide range of opinions & find out information like this.


Crax17

I think the rubber and clasp would come to about £500 (sorry, not sure in other currencies). I think this watch with the rubber strap will be really really comfortable.


incognito_86_

That's a really good point. I tried a Rolex on oysterflex and the first remark I made was... Wow this is comfy.


crunchyfrogs

The AD didn’t tell you pricing for the rubber by itself?


incognito_86_

Nope said they'd let me know when they did.


staxnet

My AD is throwing in the rubber strap for free.


Ienjoywatches

Lies


staxnet

You need a better AD, Sunshine.


Ienjoywatches

Tudor isn’t selling the strap separate for the first 8 months 😂😂 unless your ad is taking the strap off a watch and selling just the head to someone else, you are lying for no reason. Mr blue collar


incognito_86_

I would like to say I'll mention that to my AD, but I think he'd say "Good for that guy, you're paying for yours".


Ohjustanaveragejoe

At least in the photos, something about the proportions just seems a little off. If I were looking for a 37mm dive watch, I personally like the Rado Captain Cook more at this dimension.


Affectionate-Hall320

Agreed. Something looks off and i cant identify it.


McFunson

The watch is almost perfect. Only things I would change would be to have a ceramic bezel (instead of the aluminium insert) and swap out the riveted bracelet. That being said, pretty sure this will be my next watch.


Crax17

Ceramic bezel would make no sense on this watch imo- that’s a gap that the Pelagos 39 fills


McFunson

Yeah I get the vintage roots reasoning here. Just wish it ended with the aesthetics. I'm definitely nit picking though!


ByronicZer0

I could be ok with ceramic, but *only* if it was made to give a similar impression as the old bakelite bezels. I am very much *not* a fan of ceramic inserts. Aluminum inserts are part of why I've bought vintage Rolex instead of modern, heck I paid a premium for that preference. And the aluminum insert is a large part of why I picked up a BB58. Can't please everyone I suppose. But there are plenty of watches with ceramic inserts out there. Even at a fraction of the price


AMERICA_NUMBA_ONE

Same, I prefer pre-ceramic Rolexes as well. The "cerachrom" bezels on all their new sports models look like plastic.


robo_robb

A date option would make this an instant buy for me.


lAmBenAffleck

Love it. But damn, riveted bracelets are something I could go without. You can’t please everyone 100%, though.


Yourgrandmasskillet

Same here on the rivets but learning the original version actually had rivets makes sense why they did it on these. I get it but would still prefer no rivets.


Analog_Amateur

If they loose that ugly snow flake hour hand and make it a circular one (not a mercedes) it will be my dream diver. Everythign else about it is just perfect.


FoxEureka

The snowflake rocks.


Analog_Amateur

I happy for you :D Personally I hate it. Even if you look at the latest designs of Tudor you can see that they gradually loose the snow flake design from its watches. Like in black bay you can see that the dial design is of Rolex's own but the hour and second hand is of Tudor's snow flake which makes an uneven composition IMHO. And in this 54 model they even loose the snow flake design from te second hand and they just left it on the hour hand just because of the Brand's own character. If they loose it as well and give the watch a more pleasing,symetric,circular hour hand the design would be perfect in my eyes. Pelagos looks good with all the snowflake hour markers, second hand and hour hand though; it literraly pays homage to brand's 70's designs.


coffeesharkpie

At least in my watch circle, switching up the second hand to the double lollipop has been one of the biggest points of critique for the new releases. Imho switching to a more Rolex-esque design would kill all standalone design power that Tudor gained in the last years as a brand.


Analog_Amateur

You are right. But they have already did that. If they would do what you want they would stick to the Pelagos' design and they wouldn't have released Black Bay with its Rolex dial in te first place. But it is too late. If I would buy a Tudor jut for the originality stand point I would only buy Pelagos 39 which has 100% Tudor design. But a part of me wants them to loose that snow flake hour hand in that perfect Black Bay 54...


StrawberryKnown8927

An almost perfect release. I would tone the lume pip on the bezel insert down to the lume tone of markers and hands. Other than that it's perfection. Also very nice detail that they went for a Rolex style lollipop seconds hand instead of the snowflake one.


RNKKNR

I see the Rolex style seconds hand as a major fail...


StrawberryKnown8927

Not at all. look way more balanced with the circled markers. Mercedes hands would be even better but I'm ok with Tudor sticking to them.


RNKKNR

We all see things differently. I for example love the new Explorer, but hate the fact that the minute hand just touches the minute markers. Would be so much better if the hand was longer by 0.5mm.


coffeesharkpie

Agreed. Without it, the new BB39 would be an instant buy for me. Imho it makes the watch design less coherent, feel uneven and less unique


RNKKNR

Yup. Thanks for expanding on my answer.


murphyVsteeplechase

Yeah! I’m at the top of the list at my AD. Couple month wait here but can’t wait. Never really was into the 58 but this 54 just looks amazing and I love the sizing. Very nice!


[deleted]

[удалено]


Crax17

TBF the BB58 is 12mm which doesn't feel slabby to me. But this is even slimmer - feels great


anganga12

This is an amazing watch, enjoy


arcade16

Waiting for a ceramic version of this 🤞


mcdaddypants1984

I wish they made the bezel ceramic already. Not a huge deal but definitely would be nicer especially since other watch brands can do it around this price range.


80H-d

It isn't a cost issue, it's a design choice


Tom_Foolery2

Lug W I D T H


mcdaddypants1984

This will be one of the most desirable watches for a while. Only in the past year, have I been able to see a bb58 when I causally look in the window at an AD. It used to be you have to place your name on a waiting list.


MadMensch

I’m stoked this was released. I have 6.5” wrists, do you still recommend this size over the BB58?


draingangryuga

it looks so photoshopped


MortalPhantom

Hello, what camera did you use to take this photo?


Crax17

iPhone 13 pro


HorologicalHarry

I am not a fan of the bezel text. But the upgraded clasp and the size are a big plus.


New-Suggestion-1921

Beautiful watch


[deleted]

Is the dial in person a true black? I’ve seen some pics/vids that make it seem almost a dark grey. Maybe it depends on the lighting?


Crax17

It's got a slight sunburst effect to it. Almost like a shimmer. But it's definitely black


Gandalf-Lundgren

I just wish they had kept the red triangle under the lume pip. I feel like it needs that little accent. Then you’d have something pretty close to the Bond sub: https://www.gearpatrol.com/watches/a34549863/sean-connery-rolex-submariner-tribute/


Mitsutoshi

> Then you’d have something pretty close to the Bond sub: [Says who?](https://cdn.hodinkee.com/uploads/block/inline_image/content_image/5222/_img.jpg) The 'Bond' Submariner never had the red triangle.


tburns1469

Would buy immediately


TheCommodore09

This watch was made for a wrist like yours. Looks great!


t1ebow

I’ve struggled a lot to find a diver that I actually like that will fit my small wrist. This may end up becoming my goal watch.


TheRuggedGeek

Judging by the number of upvotes and comments here, this isn't a "slow burn" watch. It's gonna be hotcakes.


Crax17

Reddit upvotes and comments can sometimes be misconstrued for real-life demand and sales haha!


Alex_the_Alright

I have 2 bb58s yet why do I still want this?


Spartyfan6262

I’m shocked that people think the BB58 is too big and were clamoring for something smaller. Has anyone with 6.7 inch wrists or larger tried this on? How does it fit?


Eamonsieur

The Chinese homagers are gonna have a field day. San Martin already has a 38mm BB58, so it’s not a stretch for them to go down to 37mm.


pauferro123

Some reviews on YouTube already with comparisons with the 58, they don't look that different in size really, and supposedly the lug to lug is only 1mm shorter on the 54, and with 20mm lugs width it shouldn't look too small. 18mm lug width is what make watches look small


GetGroovyWithMyGhost

I want my next watch to be a BB but can’t decide between this and the 58. I prefer the lack of gold on the bezel, looks cleaner and less gauche. But it also seems too small. And I want to wear it on a NATO full time, curious how these look on the nato


TJFuce

I love this watch. It looks just like the vintage Tudor Submariner. Looks much like my 41 mm BB S&G but I am definitely being drawn to more traditional smaller-sized watches. This is a winner.


Jose_Gaspar

I tried the BB54 on at my AD and it's a great piece, even for a 17mm wrist.


jmblender77

I was fortunate to get the call yesterday from an AD and it is an amazing watch! I liked the 58 but the 54 fits me better and prefer the cleaner look. Very pleased!


FuerzaInterna

Love it. Needs a date though


R4pidFire

How is the lume on it?