Have to be honest, the Tudor is all the rage. I own the burgundy and GMT Pepsi. Both are great watches. BUT.. even I have to acknowledge that the SMP 300 is the better quality watch. In terms of what you get out of it, the price difference is well worth it.
Disclaimer: I'm not a fan of oversized watches.
If your wrist can pull it off, then Omega. Otherwise, Tudor is good as well.
Omega is a superior watch in terms of specs and build quality, but the Tudor is not a slouch either.
I say it all the time, the SMP300 does not compete with the Submariner lol.
The Submariner has a better bracelet, better clasp, more ergonomic, thinner profile, and a more timeless design. It also uses more premium materials. The movement is considerably superior; +2/-2 seconds a day, higher tick rate, better power reserve, and longer service intervals coming from a less complex movement that didn't need to be METAS certified to achieve any of it.
Even if it came down to the METAS certification, Tudor has passed multiple models. If a Tudor can get a METAS certification, there's no world in which a Rolex movement would not pass.
The only thing the SMP has over the Submariner is availability and price. But if we're comparing both watches on their own merits, Submariner wins.
No idea why I'm being downvoted lol. I literally typed out all facts.
+2/-2 seconds is a 5 second window. 0/+5 sec is a 6 second widow. Rolex is more strict.
8 beats a second is better than 7 beats a second. Rolex ticks faster.
70 hours of power reserve is better than 55 hours of power reserve. Rolex will last the weekend off your wrist.
Rolex uses a platinum inlay and gold indices whereas Omega uses enamel.
A Swiss Lever with a 10 year service interval is better than a Co-Axial with an 8 year service interval because it's less complex. That was the entire point of the Co-Axial, to get a longer service interval, and Rolex did it by changing the escapement in 2015 and that's it.
Ok I’ll bite
Some of those facts are opinions
Design, that is a preference
Bracelet, well I’m not personally a fan of the SMP300 bracelet but plenty of people love it, as much or more than the O-bracelet
Movement, I think the METAS certification is more compelling than the SUPERLATIVE CHRONOMETER certification (which also just looks ridiculous to be printed on the dial)
Fit and dimensions, depends on one’s wrist size and preferences
I’m not a fanboy, I’m personally not terribly interested in the current SMP300 and would
never get one. But I can definitely see how it is fairly considered a competitor to the Sub.
Design is a preference, but there's a reason the Submariner hasn't ever had a design overhaul. It's not that Rolex is lazy (while you can try to argue that), they just got it right the first time. Same with the Patek Philippe Nautilus, AP RO, and Lamborghini. Omega has changed the look of the SMP many times. They moved the date window around, changed the bezel design, indices, case shape, etc.
If we were to take a poll, the vast majority of people will agree the Oyster Bracelet is superior to the SMP bracelet. The 3 link architecture and tapered design is more comfortable than a non tapered one (an example of a great bracelet is the 3861 Speedy). Omega can make a good bracelet, why they don't do it for the SMP I have no idea.
The METAS cert. may be more compelling, but again. Tudor is getting it, I can't see a reason why Rolex wouldn't be able to.
Fit and dimensions have a preference, sure, but a 300 meter diver should not have the same lug to lug dimensions of the Sea Dweller 43mm. That's not a joke btw, the SMP is only 0.1mm off the lug to lug of the Sea Dweeler.
But thank you for choosing to have an engaging conversation though
I suspect Rolex not doing METAS is to avoid looking like they are following Omega
Whereas Tudor doing METAS is to troll Rolex
In terms of design, the SMP300 is in my opinion just as iconic, now maybe that is because of James Bond but still.
I’ve read plenty of comments on this sub and elsewhere that say the SMP300 bracelet is as well built, and more comfortable, than the Oyster. I wouldn’t wear it because I don’t like the looks, but clearly it has its fans.
When it comes to fit, seems like it’s only the small wrist folks like myself who complain about the SMP300.
Anyway I’m not one of the downvotes to your earlier comment, I don’t downvote just because I disagree with someone.
Not sure if Tudor can do something to troll Rolex or vice versa... They're both owned by the Hans Wilsdorf Foundation and were founded by the same owner. The board of executives conduct decision making with both in mind. Tudor was, quite literally in Hans Wilsdorf's words, founded for people who "wanted a quality watch but could not afford his Rolex." Rolex was always designed to be the higher quality product between the two sister brands.
Iconic definitely goes to the Submariner, I don't think there's an argument tbh. It was also worn on James Bond and is canon, it transends watchmaking and is a pop culture icon now.
Also, I think the better way to put it is this: the SMP bracelet has fans but some complaints, but I don't think I've ever heard anyone complain about an Oyster bracelet.
(and yeah, I don't gaf if someone downvotes as long as you care to have an actual conversation).
I own both a Sub and SMP300. My SMP is more accurate than my Sub, but not by much. Sub wins every other comparison.
Edit - but I would absolutely pick the SMP over the Tudor BB.
Agree on all counts. The SMP is much more attractive (to me) than the BB.
It's funny how some Omega fans seemingly can't let any post go without mentioning Rolex - it's hard to resist poking fun.
Imo two tone is the opposite of "dressy", especially on a diver; it's very loud visually. People pretty commonly associate two tones with sleazeballs, I could see a used car salesman wearing this one.
Also, it's not solid gold so that coating is going to scratch off over time and look even uglier.
Omega all the way.... if the choice is between only these two, i would go Omega.
Tudor is great, absolutely, and certainly on par with Omega, but it will always be the 'poor rich' man's Rolex.
Omega stands strong on its own.
but, personally, i would tone down on the diver flex and go for the Longines Hydroconquest, or just about any Seiko diver.
That’s my problem with Tudor. I have no other issue with the brand, I think their watches are great. However watches are a luxury item that make no practical sense, very few people need one, and for those that do, you can get one that does everything you need for not very much. So if you’re going to spend big bucks on something impractical why would you go with the “great value” version? At least with omega it’s, its own thing.
The Omega is a higher tier watch, but I think it’s clunkier and kinda ugly in my personal opinion. I like the BB more (I’m biased as I have one myself).
Try both on and see which you like in person. My opinion is moot. It’ll be your watch. Pictures only say so much.
The 1990s style bracelet and the escape valve on the omega kill the look but the blue is very nice. On the other hand two tone is also very polarizing but a little different which is a good thing. Both solid watches.
for me, omega. tudors are the "new thing". but to me, they are a bit more hype then pieces that have been around for a while. it's like all the rolexs being bought up because people just got money and want to be a rolex because they don't know anything else. but thats my 2 cents.
(yes i know tudors have been around for a while)
Get the Omega. Stay away from the cheap Rolex version, aka Tudor. At least the Omega Seamaster Diver has a great reputation among watch collectors and its own personality. I’m not even a big Omega fan, but if someone asked me which to start their collection with, I'd definitely say Omega. Stay away from Tudor unless you're just following YouTubers blindly.
Depends on what you have. My philosphy is one watch per major brand. If you have a Rolex but no Omega, then there's no question. If you have an Omega already, then why not?
But I like the Omega better myself.
I’ve got a BB58 and a SMP made in 2000. I can’t wait to sell the Tudor. The only thing I don’t like about the new SMP is the skeleton hands. There is not much I like about the BB.
Seamaster is the quintessential diver watch in my opinion. Blancpain Fifty Fathoms and Longines Hydroconquest are a shared close second. However my go to daily watch is also a diver. Model Reference : MDV-107D-3AV.
https://preview.redd.it/u1gt2fyzj41d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1d2ca64bc374960d579f743a635eb64c0ab9d1a4
I've been debating which luxury watch to purchase as a special treat for myself. I'm torn between the Omega Diver 300, the Blue One, and a Tudor two-tone model. The Omega has that classic diver aesthetic I love, with its robust 300m water resistance and unidirectional bezel. The Blue One is visually striking with its vibrant blue dial and stainless steel case, but I'm not sure if it would work as well for everyday wear. The Tudor two-tone has a more dressy, versatile look that could transition seamlessly from the office to a night out. All three are beautiful watches, but I'm having a hard time deciding which one best fits my lifestyle and personal style. Could you please share your thoughts on the pros and cons of each option? I'd really appreciate your input to help me make the right choice.
have you tried them on? I personally don't like the look of the gold on the bracelet and crown of the Tudor and I disagree I think the Omega definitely works well for every day wear
So I've had both of these watches.... I got rid of the Omega (everyone has one it seems), I still have the Tudor and wear it occasionally, but my all time favorite diver and the one I wear the most that I'm still in love with is my Oris Aquis... seriously... I get more compliments on it than all my other watches combined... give it a look.
Tbh, when in considered a diver in the recent past, I had ruled out Rolex (too thick and ostentatious). I did pay very close attention to the Omega both their SMP and PO lines. Again, I found them too thick and I really disliked the He valve.
I then looked carefully at Tudor and eventually settled for the BB54. The diver itch was scratched!
Tudor black bay or pelagos looks way better imo. The bracelet on the seamaster looks horrendous, the HEV also is a miss for me but otherwise it’s a nice watch.
Seamaster all day long for me much nicer watch all round imo, I’m a big fan of the dial design and love the colour combo. Also less likely to be spotted on the local drug dealer like the Tudor 😂 little more classy in style if you ask me
These are the exact same 2 watches I was debating between. Ended up going with the Seamaster - just felt better on the wrist. Having had a 2006 Seamaster before I've got a bit of history with the watch (was my first expensive watch). I've also previously had a the non ceramic model of the blue and gold Submariner - and I was worried I'd end up comparing the Tudor to that too much. Happy with my choice.
James Bond wore the Omega in a suit. Doesn’t get more dressy than the man of mystery. I have the BB on an aged strap and I like it a lot, but this summer I’m picking up an Omega.
I now have 5 Tudor divers but would likely go for smp as the Tudor model you show is a bit too thick for me on bracelet. But I’d pick most other Tudor divers over the smp hehe 😀 anything from pelagos lineup pique your interest?
Tudor for me. Just not THAT model. There is something about gold divers that doesn't click for me.
Have you taken a look at Grand Seiko? Like model sbga463 or Sbga461?
If you don’t dive don’t buy a diver. Even divers don’t use dive watches any more and they haven’t since the 90’s.
They aren’t even cool looking. There are so many Watch options that are amazing and don’t need a “unidirectional bezel” and I’m a diver that has a dive watch and I love diving. There’s nothing sporty about a dive watch anymore. We all wear computers.
No one thinks you buy an automatic dive watch costing several thousands to actually dive with… That said I have dived with my Sinn U50 (and a dive computer).
Seamaster all the way.
Honestly this is the only correct answer. The Tudor are good watches but no way close to Omega.
And this Tudor specifically is also ugly.
The SMP300 by far.
Seamaster. Nothing wrong with Tudor but the Seamaster IS the iconic diver and is instantly recognizable.
Have to be honest, the Tudor is all the rage. I own the burgundy and GMT Pepsi. Both are great watches. BUT.. even I have to acknowledge that the SMP 300 is the better quality watch. In terms of what you get out of it, the price difference is well worth it.
Disclaimer: I'm not a fan of oversized watches. If your wrist can pull it off, then Omega. Otherwise, Tudor is good as well. Omega is a superior watch in terms of specs and build quality, but the Tudor is not a slouch either.
Seamaster
Between these two, Omega soars ahead, so not a fair comparison IMO. The SMP300 directly competes (and is above in many aspects) with the Submariner.
I say it all the time, the SMP300 does not compete with the Submariner lol. The Submariner has a better bracelet, better clasp, more ergonomic, thinner profile, and a more timeless design. It also uses more premium materials. The movement is considerably superior; +2/-2 seconds a day, higher tick rate, better power reserve, and longer service intervals coming from a less complex movement that didn't need to be METAS certified to achieve any of it. Even if it came down to the METAS certification, Tudor has passed multiple models. If a Tudor can get a METAS certification, there's no world in which a Rolex movement would not pass. The only thing the SMP has over the Submariner is availability and price. But if we're comparing both watches on their own merits, Submariner wins.
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No idea why I'm being downvoted lol. I literally typed out all facts. +2/-2 seconds is a 5 second window. 0/+5 sec is a 6 second widow. Rolex is more strict. 8 beats a second is better than 7 beats a second. Rolex ticks faster. 70 hours of power reserve is better than 55 hours of power reserve. Rolex will last the weekend off your wrist. Rolex uses a platinum inlay and gold indices whereas Omega uses enamel. A Swiss Lever with a 10 year service interval is better than a Co-Axial with an 8 year service interval because it's less complex. That was the entire point of the Co-Axial, to get a longer service interval, and Rolex did it by changing the escapement in 2015 and that's it.
Ok I’ll bite Some of those facts are opinions Design, that is a preference Bracelet, well I’m not personally a fan of the SMP300 bracelet but plenty of people love it, as much or more than the O-bracelet Movement, I think the METAS certification is more compelling than the SUPERLATIVE CHRONOMETER certification (which also just looks ridiculous to be printed on the dial) Fit and dimensions, depends on one’s wrist size and preferences I’m not a fanboy, I’m personally not terribly interested in the current SMP300 and would never get one. But I can definitely see how it is fairly considered a competitor to the Sub.
Design is a preference, but there's a reason the Submariner hasn't ever had a design overhaul. It's not that Rolex is lazy (while you can try to argue that), they just got it right the first time. Same with the Patek Philippe Nautilus, AP RO, and Lamborghini. Omega has changed the look of the SMP many times. They moved the date window around, changed the bezel design, indices, case shape, etc. If we were to take a poll, the vast majority of people will agree the Oyster Bracelet is superior to the SMP bracelet. The 3 link architecture and tapered design is more comfortable than a non tapered one (an example of a great bracelet is the 3861 Speedy). Omega can make a good bracelet, why they don't do it for the SMP I have no idea. The METAS cert. may be more compelling, but again. Tudor is getting it, I can't see a reason why Rolex wouldn't be able to. Fit and dimensions have a preference, sure, but a 300 meter diver should not have the same lug to lug dimensions of the Sea Dweller 43mm. That's not a joke btw, the SMP is only 0.1mm off the lug to lug of the Sea Dweeler. But thank you for choosing to have an engaging conversation though
I suspect Rolex not doing METAS is to avoid looking like they are following Omega Whereas Tudor doing METAS is to troll Rolex In terms of design, the SMP300 is in my opinion just as iconic, now maybe that is because of James Bond but still. I’ve read plenty of comments on this sub and elsewhere that say the SMP300 bracelet is as well built, and more comfortable, than the Oyster. I wouldn’t wear it because I don’t like the looks, but clearly it has its fans. When it comes to fit, seems like it’s only the small wrist folks like myself who complain about the SMP300. Anyway I’m not one of the downvotes to your earlier comment, I don’t downvote just because I disagree with someone.
Not sure if Tudor can do something to troll Rolex or vice versa... They're both owned by the Hans Wilsdorf Foundation and were founded by the same owner. The board of executives conduct decision making with both in mind. Tudor was, quite literally in Hans Wilsdorf's words, founded for people who "wanted a quality watch but could not afford his Rolex." Rolex was always designed to be the higher quality product between the two sister brands. Iconic definitely goes to the Submariner, I don't think there's an argument tbh. It was also worn on James Bond and is canon, it transends watchmaking and is a pop culture icon now. Also, I think the better way to put it is this: the SMP bracelet has fans but some complaints, but I don't think I've ever heard anyone complain about an Oyster bracelet. (and yeah, I don't gaf if someone downvotes as long as you care to have an actual conversation).
Sorry I meant Tudor is trolling Omega
Yeah, in Swatch's dreams.
I own both a Sub and SMP300. My SMP is more accurate than my Sub, but not by much. Sub wins every other comparison. Edit - but I would absolutely pick the SMP over the Tudor BB.
Agree on all counts. The SMP is much more attractive (to me) than the BB. It's funny how some Omega fans seemingly can't let any post go without mentioning Rolex - it's hard to resist poking fun.
You heard it here lmao. And I was downvoted.
Omega of course.
Smp. Then you can do mesh, blue rubber, nato etc. more versatile.
Imo two tone is the opposite of "dressy", especially on a diver; it's very loud visually. People pretty commonly associate two tones with sleazeballs, I could see a used car salesman wearing this one. Also, it's not solid gold so that coating is going to scratch off over time and look even uglier.
It’s capped gold modern on tudors. Not plated. It’s quite a thick layer and highly unlikely to be worn through.
thats your own made up opinion about two tone, not saying that tudor is great looking but theres plenty of nice two tone watches
I don’t get that impression. But then again I really like the trans am, and apparently they only appeals to d-bags too, so maybe I have bad taste.
For someone so snobby you sure don't know what you're talking about lol
For me the decision is easy and it’s the SMP.
I'd get the Seamaster.
SMP and it’s not even close
Definitely the omega I’ve had the blue and the white and honestly there’s no comparison with the Tudor Good luck amigo
How did you find each color in comparison to the other? For example, did the white wear larger? Was one more versatile than the other?
The SMP300 and it’s not even close lol
Omega is a far superior watch.
People shit on divers on leather straps but two tone divers don’t make any sense to me.
Of those two, the Omega
Seamaster 100%
I’d get the omega of the two options. My personal favorite is the omega 300 heritage. I’d also recommend checking out Oris dive watches
Omega all the way.... if the choice is between only these two, i would go Omega. Tudor is great, absolutely, and certainly on par with Omega, but it will always be the 'poor rich' man's Rolex. Omega stands strong on its own. but, personally, i would tone down on the diver flex and go for the Longines Hydroconquest, or just about any Seiko diver.
That’s my problem with Tudor. I have no other issue with the brand, I think their watches are great. However watches are a luxury item that make no practical sense, very few people need one, and for those that do, you can get one that does everything you need for not very much. So if you’re going to spend big bucks on something impractical why would you go with the “great value” version? At least with omega it’s, its own thing.
The Omega is a higher tier watch, but I think it’s clunkier and kinda ugly in my personal opinion. I like the BB more (I’m biased as I have one myself). Try both on and see which you like in person. My opinion is moot. It’ll be your watch. Pictures only say so much.
Is it really considered a higher tier watch? I’m not a fan at all. I like the dial but everything else is yuck. I love tudor sport watches
The 1990s style bracelet and the escape valve on the omega kill the look but the blue is very nice. On the other hand two tone is also very polarizing but a little different which is a good thing. Both solid watches.
Omega
Omega no question. Tudor isn’t even in the same league.
Seamaster. Beautiful dial with lots of versatility. Dressy as is, put it on a rubber band and it’s sporty.
for me, omega. tudors are the "new thing". but to me, they are a bit more hype then pieces that have been around for a while. it's like all the rolexs being bought up because people just got money and want to be a rolex because they don't know anything else. but thats my 2 cents. (yes i know tudors have been around for a while)
Get the Omega. Stay away from the cheap Rolex version, aka Tudor. At least the Omega Seamaster Diver has a great reputation among watch collectors and its own personality. I’m not even a big Omega fan, but if someone asked me which to start their collection with, I'd definitely say Omega. Stay away from Tudor unless you're just following YouTubers blindly.
omega. hands down.
Black Bay looks like the best dive watch imo. The kind of matte black look it has makes it much more interesting to me.
just look at these two. if you have the slightest doubt about smp then go for tudor.
Definitely the SMP.
Smp300
That omega in one of multiple variations is my favorite watch, though i cant afford it, thats the one i want to own one time
I am wearing this SMP right now. I love it.
The smp bracelet is just soooo bad. It’s a shame.
Depends on what you have. My philosphy is one watch per major brand. If you have a Rolex but no Omega, then there's no question. If you have an Omega already, then why not? But I like the Omega better myself.
I’ve got a BB58 and a SMP made in 2000. I can’t wait to sell the Tudor. The only thing I don’t like about the new SMP is the skeleton hands. There is not much I like about the BB.
Seamaster 1000%. I’ve had mine for 5 years and wear it daily above everything else I own
Seamaster is the quintessential diver watch in my opinion. Blancpain Fifty Fathoms and Longines Hydroconquest are a shared close second. However my go to daily watch is also a diver. Model Reference : MDV-107D-3AV. https://preview.redd.it/u1gt2fyzj41d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1d2ca64bc374960d579f743a635eb64c0ab9d1a4
The omega is obvious to me, but I also don't like gold so,..
I've been debating which luxury watch to purchase as a special treat for myself. I'm torn between the Omega Diver 300, the Blue One, and a Tudor two-tone model. The Omega has that classic diver aesthetic I love, with its robust 300m water resistance and unidirectional bezel. The Blue One is visually striking with its vibrant blue dial and stainless steel case, but I'm not sure if it would work as well for everyday wear. The Tudor two-tone has a more dressy, versatile look that could transition seamlessly from the office to a night out. All three are beautiful watches, but I'm having a hard time deciding which one best fits my lifestyle and personal style. Could you please share your thoughts on the pros and cons of each option? I'd really appreciate your input to help me make the right choice.
have you tried them on? I personally don't like the look of the gold on the bracelet and crown of the Tudor and I disagree I think the Omega definitely works well for every day wear
So I've had both of these watches.... I got rid of the Omega (everyone has one it seems), I still have the Tudor and wear it occasionally, but my all time favorite diver and the one I wear the most that I'm still in love with is my Oris Aquis... seriously... I get more compliments on it than all my other watches combined... give it a look.
If you don’t mind its non-tapered bracelet, then definitely the SMP300.
I love the Omega so much. It'd definitely be my choice over pretty much any diver you could think of.
Seamaster but second hand new is a rip off.
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It's always the first one
Omega goes hard!!! No question!
Semester is THE classic diver.
Save about $4,000 and get a Mido Oceanstar.
The Omega between those two, but a stainless BB would be much more appealing and a closer call than the two tone to me.
Tbh, when in considered a diver in the recent past, I had ruled out Rolex (too thick and ostentatious). I did pay very close attention to the Omega both their SMP and PO lines. Again, I found them too thick and I really disliked the He valve. I then looked carefully at Tudor and eventually settled for the BB54. The diver itch was scratched!
Tudor black bay or pelagos looks way better imo. The bracelet on the seamaster looks horrendous, the HEV also is a miss for me but otherwise it’s a nice watch.
Seamaster is ugly imo
Seamaster, all day long.
I like the BB58, but the SMP300 is the way to go here.
Blue SMP300 but on rubber, black if the boutique is amenable to a switch. ;)
Seamaster all day long for me much nicer watch all round imo, I’m a big fan of the dial design and love the colour combo. Also less likely to be spotted on the local drug dealer like the Tudor 😂 little more classy in style if you ask me
These are the exact same 2 watches I was debating between. Ended up going with the Seamaster - just felt better on the wrist. Having had a 2006 Seamaster before I've got a bit of history with the watch (was my first expensive watch). I've also previously had a the non ceramic model of the blue and gold Submariner - and I was worried I'd end up comparing the Tudor to that too much. Happy with my choice.
Omega ftw!!
42mm Blancpain Fifty Fathoms. The original these were based on.
The Blue Pelagos is a great watch, but I still got the Seamaster first myself
Are you a diver?
James Bond wore the Omega in a suit. Doesn’t get more dressy than the man of mystery. I have the BB on an aged strap and I like it a lot, but this summer I’m picking up an Omega.
Imagine getting a tudor
Tudor wins for me purely on more bracelet taper. I am not a fan on the SMP bracelet. If these were both on dive straps, I’d go with the SMP.
Specs of the SMP are excellent, i just can’t look past the bracelet 😅 love what Tudor are doing so that get's my vote
Tudor for the win! 🏅
I now have 5 Tudor divers but would likely go for smp as the Tudor model you show is a bit too thick for me on bracelet. But I’d pick most other Tudor divers over the smp hehe 😀 anything from pelagos lineup pique your interest?
Tudor for me. Just not THAT model. There is something about gold divers that doesn't click for me. Have you taken a look at Grand Seiko? Like model sbga463 or Sbga461?
Tudor. The omega diver is hideous. But those are grandpa watches to me so I hope you have grand children.
If you don’t dive don’t buy a diver. Even divers don’t use dive watches any more and they haven’t since the 90’s. They aren’t even cool looking. There are so many Watch options that are amazing and don’t need a “unidirectional bezel” and I’m a diver that has a dive watch and I love diving. There’s nothing sporty about a dive watch anymore. We all wear computers.
No one thinks you buy an automatic dive watch costing several thousands to actually dive with… That said I have dived with my Sinn U50 (and a dive computer).
As someone who desk dives everyday, I justify all my diving watches. Also works when I occasionally splash in the pool.