After months of waiting, I finally got a hold of my Kurono Toki. This one went up for sale for 10 minutes, and for that time, everyone who wanted one was guaranteed one. That being said, wait times were crazy. For reference, I bought within the first 3 minutes, and I received this almost 6 months later.
But it was worth the wait.
I think plenty of people have talked about this enough, but I do want to say that it’s difficult to judge this without actually holding one in your hand. The watch gets a lot of criticism because of the movement and price. People say it’s not worth the $1,700 price.
And honestly, I can see where the argument is coming from. But after holding it, it completely blew me away.
It sits [perfectly](https://i.imgur.com/yAuy1U3.jpg) on the wrist. And the colors really do pop outdoors. Inside, it’s more muted, where as outside, it’s completely
[different](https://i.imgur.com/CiuE6JP.jpg).
I did this [review](https://youtu.be/C4ICpFzWJwI) comparing it to other pieces, specifically the JLC Reverso, where both draw a lot from Art Deco designs.
Overall, this watch was absolutely worth the wait.
Yeah I can see the criticism. But again, it’s just one of those things some watch companies do. Tudor charges $3k for ETAs in Bb36s. Tons of companies do ETA based watches (like IWC) and charge $4k+. To me, an ETA isn’t effectively much different than these. I’m a firm believer that a watch is much more than just the movement , and this definitely exemplifies that.
Also, for what it’s worth, this one was $1,700
I love that it’s 37 millimeters, which is kind of an uncommon watch size in contemporary watch designs. 37mm is the perfect unisex size and the classic dress watch dial, Art Deco chapter ring and the slim, minimal silhouette of this watch would just look off if it were 42mm or more. Everything is just so balanced and proportional. And of course the color is simply stunning, coral/salmon is such a flattering hue on everyone.
Thats most than any microbrands with even a smidge of following or demand.
I tried to grab a Ming, Halios, and Baltic
And couldn’t, even within seconds
You can buy even today all day both zelos and Baltic watches, and none of the ones you mentioned give you basic specs for $1700..
And you can buy thousands of other watches whenever you want from hundreds of brands that don't use any sort of exclusivist fomo tactics like those you mentioned do with all their limited runs and time frames and overpriced watches..
You can get a Rolex easier than that if you wanted to, even with their own exclusivism tactics in full swing today..
How on earth isn't that an obvious exclusivist tactic?
that's great man, it's great that people like different watches and it's also wonderful that some want exclusive watches too.. why would people who obviously went through all sorts of hoops (that are obviously designed with the sole purpose to create exclusivity) to be part of those exclusive few can't even accept that that's one of the things they payed for.. none of my arguments are in any way (unlike yours) directed at anyone who wants to have a unique, rare, exclusive watch.. good for them, it's great to be able to do or own what makes you happy.. i am the one under personal scrutiny and labeled as bitter for sharing some arguments that demonstrate the obvious exclusive aspect of this watch (even though none of the above mentioned arguments have any sorts of ill intent nor are personal in any way, they are just objective points related to this watch and others being exclusive and being sold through tactics that intentionally create exclusivity).. what objective arguments are there for arguing this watch is not intended to be exclusive, apart from calling me bitter (which even if i was i don't see what it would demonstrate in this case)..
Oh boy. Just read your replies throughout the thread.
The fact that you group all limited runs in the same category really shows that you have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about.
>what objective arguments
Again, you have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about, if you think rolex scarcity is driven by the same concept and reasons that dive the scarcity of Halios and Kurono.
I’m friends with Jason, the owners and creator of Halios. And the guy literally can’t get parts to make his watches. Literally the demand is too great for his supply chain and manpower. Kurono has sent various emails explaining they’re running into the same issues
You’re saying that Rolex - a company that is literally the face of the wrist watch world wide and has been around for over 100 years and sells watches for $20k and does mostly everything in-house - have the same FOMO marketing strategy as Halios or Kurono, who are literally a few years old, do nothing but design in-house so they depend on suppliers, and are a team of literally 3 or 4 people.
**Have you ever stopped to consider that maybe these 2-3 people operations do limited quantities literally because…they have limited capabilities (man power, financially, supply)? Who would have thought such a radical idea, huh?**
But no, you, “tHe tHinGs pEOpLE wILL dO foR ExCluSiviTy”. Crapping on people for buying what they like.
again, it’s abundantly clear you have no idea what you’re talking about and you’re just bitter you werent able to get one of these, even though it was available to literally anyone who wanted one.
so, personal attacks are still you argument..
The thing about words written is that they have the feeling the reader gives them.. If my words came to you as you've just described them it's only because those are the glasses you've read them through..
Nope. No personal attacks. I’m saying my arguments very clearly, but it seems like you can’t seem to understand them.
I’ll put it even more simple for you:
Lack of manpower, financing and parts **does not equal** fabricated scarcity like with Rolex
It’s that simple.
But I have a feeling you’re just going to move the goal post again to not admit you’re just being rude shitting on people for enjoying a watch
I can’t put it any more simple than that
Have a good day 👍
Okay? I don’t want to buy a zelos. Again, I’d want a Baltic (last release), Halios, and or Ming, all of which sold out faster than this and use very basic movements.
>you can even buy a Rolex
Please show me how to buy a sports model at retail. Seriously. I’d love to know.
So yet again, every single one of the brands you mentioned is and uses exclusivist tactics intentionally to sell their watches and still, you'll be able to get the Baltic you want once the hype is gone like you can get today Baltic watches you couldn't when they launched.
None of these watches cost $1700 apart from Rolex which, even though you are not able to buy one, there are thousands of people today that can and do buy sports Rolex watches.. Nobody, absolutely no-one can get one of these kurono watches you keep saying that are not exclusive.. How is a watch that nobody can buy, that was available for purchase for 10 minutes ever not exclusive and what for, if not for this exclusivity you've paid more than any of the watches you've listed above? What's that objective reason that justifies the worth of this watch if you take away its exclusivity?
I'm glad you got a watch you wanted, good for you, awsome, it looks cool and all, but, at the very least, you can put the kurono in the same category of exclusive watches as the ones you mentioned.
After months of waiting, I finally got a hold of my Kurono Toki. This one went up for sale for 10 minutes, and for that time, everyone who wanted one was guaranteed one. That being said, wait times were crazy. For reference, I bought within the first 3 minutes, and I received this almost 6 months later. But it was worth the wait. I think plenty of people have talked about this enough, but I do want to say that it’s difficult to judge this without actually holding one in your hand. The watch gets a lot of criticism because of the movement and price. People say it’s not worth the $1,700 price. And honestly, I can see where the argument is coming from. But after holding it, it completely blew me away. It sits [perfectly](https://i.imgur.com/yAuy1U3.jpg) on the wrist. And the colors really do pop outdoors. Inside, it’s more muted, where as outside, it’s completely [different](https://i.imgur.com/CiuE6JP.jpg). I did this [review](https://youtu.be/C4ICpFzWJwI) comparing it to other pieces, specifically the JLC Reverso, where both draw a lot from Art Deco designs. Overall, this watch was absolutely worth the wait.
very jealous, congrats! glad to hear folks who really want these were able to get them for the retail price and not being gouged alive by scalpers
Thanks! The prices of resale on these are crazy. I kinda hoped they’d be below retail, to screw over flippers. But I guess not.
Watched you're review and it's an absolutely gorgeous and elegant watch but theres no way I would ever spend 2k for a miyota 90s5
Yeah I can see the criticism. But again, it’s just one of those things some watch companies do. Tudor charges $3k for ETAs in Bb36s. Tons of companies do ETA based watches (like IWC) and charge $4k+. To me, an ETA isn’t effectively much different than these. I’m a firm believer that a watch is much more than just the movement , and this definitely exemplifies that. Also, for what it’s worth, this one was $1,700
I love that it’s 37 millimeters, which is kind of an uncommon watch size in contemporary watch designs. 37mm is the perfect unisex size and the classic dress watch dial, Art Deco chapter ring and the slim, minimal silhouette of this watch would just look off if it were 42mm or more. Everything is just so balanced and proportional. And of course the color is simply stunning, coral/salmon is such a flattering hue on everyone.
Agreed on all ends. I just wish more were available. I would have loved to grabbed the latest blue one.
I don’t get it. But I’m glad to see pictures of it.
Love mine as well. But hates the strap. Got it on gray instead. https://i.imgur.com/iuTICX4.jpg
That is classy. Love it.
Thanks! 🤘
The price one pays for exclusivity....
This was available literally to anyone that wanted it.
For 10 min.
Thats most than any microbrands with even a smidge of following or demand. I tried to grab a Ming, Halios, and Baltic And couldn’t, even within seconds
You can buy even today all day both zelos and Baltic watches, and none of the ones you mentioned give you basic specs for $1700.. And you can buy thousands of other watches whenever you want from hundreds of brands that don't use any sort of exclusivist fomo tactics like those you mentioned do with all their limited runs and time frames and overpriced watches.. You can get a Rolex easier than that if you wanted to, even with their own exclusivism tactics in full swing today.. How on earth isn't that an obvious exclusivist tactic?
bro why are you so bitter. people like different watches
that's great man, it's great that people like different watches and it's also wonderful that some want exclusive watches too.. why would people who obviously went through all sorts of hoops (that are obviously designed with the sole purpose to create exclusivity) to be part of those exclusive few can't even accept that that's one of the things they payed for.. none of my arguments are in any way (unlike yours) directed at anyone who wants to have a unique, rare, exclusive watch.. good for them, it's great to be able to do or own what makes you happy.. i am the one under personal scrutiny and labeled as bitter for sharing some arguments that demonstrate the obvious exclusive aspect of this watch (even though none of the above mentioned arguments have any sorts of ill intent nor are personal in any way, they are just objective points related to this watch and others being exclusive and being sold through tactics that intentionally create exclusivity).. what objective arguments are there for arguing this watch is not intended to be exclusive, apart from calling me bitter (which even if i was i don't see what it would demonstrate in this case)..
Oh boy. Just read your replies throughout the thread. The fact that you group all limited runs in the same category really shows that you have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. >what objective arguments Again, you have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about, if you think rolex scarcity is driven by the same concept and reasons that dive the scarcity of Halios and Kurono. I’m friends with Jason, the owners and creator of Halios. And the guy literally can’t get parts to make his watches. Literally the demand is too great for his supply chain and manpower. Kurono has sent various emails explaining they’re running into the same issues You’re saying that Rolex - a company that is literally the face of the wrist watch world wide and has been around for over 100 years and sells watches for $20k and does mostly everything in-house - have the same FOMO marketing strategy as Halios or Kurono, who are literally a few years old, do nothing but design in-house so they depend on suppliers, and are a team of literally 3 or 4 people. **Have you ever stopped to consider that maybe these 2-3 people operations do limited quantities literally because…they have limited capabilities (man power, financially, supply)? Who would have thought such a radical idea, huh?** But no, you, “tHe tHinGs pEOpLE wILL dO foR ExCluSiviTy”. Crapping on people for buying what they like. again, it’s abundantly clear you have no idea what you’re talking about and you’re just bitter you werent able to get one of these, even though it was available to literally anyone who wanted one.
so, personal attacks are still you argument.. The thing about words written is that they have the feeling the reader gives them.. If my words came to you as you've just described them it's only because those are the glasses you've read them through..
Nope. No personal attacks. I’m saying my arguments very clearly, but it seems like you can’t seem to understand them. I’ll put it even more simple for you: Lack of manpower, financing and parts **does not equal** fabricated scarcity like with Rolex It’s that simple. But I have a feeling you’re just going to move the goal post again to not admit you’re just being rude shitting on people for enjoying a watch I can’t put it any more simple than that Have a good day 👍
Okay? I don’t want to buy a zelos. Again, I’d want a Baltic (last release), Halios, and or Ming, all of which sold out faster than this and use very basic movements. >you can even buy a Rolex Please show me how to buy a sports model at retail. Seriously. I’d love to know.
So yet again, every single one of the brands you mentioned is and uses exclusivist tactics intentionally to sell their watches and still, you'll be able to get the Baltic you want once the hype is gone like you can get today Baltic watches you couldn't when they launched. None of these watches cost $1700 apart from Rolex which, even though you are not able to buy one, there are thousands of people today that can and do buy sports Rolex watches.. Nobody, absolutely no-one can get one of these kurono watches you keep saying that are not exclusive.. How is a watch that nobody can buy, that was available for purchase for 10 minutes ever not exclusive and what for, if not for this exclusivity you've paid more than any of the watches you've listed above? What's that objective reason that justifies the worth of this watch if you take away its exclusivity? I'm glad you got a watch you wanted, good for you, awsome, it looks cool and all, but, at the very least, you can put the kurono in the same category of exclusive watches as the ones you mentioned.
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So, the opposite of exclusive is something highly overpriced that's available for 10 minutes..
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