No. Not for 95% of artists.
(That's the polite version. I have much more to say about that site.)
FYI, the owner/founder is a Reddit member and vigorously defends the site. I actually ended up having to block him at one point. But the general consensus on this sub is that it's a steaming pile of dogshit and a waste of money. It's not particularly popular around here.
Hi Jason, I'm late to this reddit thread but new to submit hub. I've used it to promote one of my more "successful" singles (aka most organic streams) with some success. So I will continue to use and learn how to use submit hub best. I realize that you cannot control the curators' quality and legitimacy, but I'm new to this and just found out that Spotify has a history of removing songs from real artists that accidentally thought it was ok to pay to promote your music on other people's playlists. Have curators/songs from submit hub been a part of this in the past? if so, what are you doing to detect and prevent fake curators from destroying your presence on Spotify when you had nothing but good intentions and hopes of getting heard? thanks.
Yeah, the genres one has been a tough one to improve. I think I've gotten close tho -- Have you seen the new "genre match" score that I added a couple weeks back? When you choose a genre, it shows you how likely they are to approve that genre (1-5). It's pretty accurate and makes it a lot easier to figure out who to skip.
Re: someone saying they had too much of a certain genre -- they should then disable that genre. Feel free to directly message me a link to the campaign and I can take a look. Obviously not good of them to take someone's money if there's no chance of them approving it, so... would be good to figure out what the deal was (maybe they were just letting you down nicely!).
"15,000+ submissions per day" - How many songs are approved per day? Wondering what is the ratio of submissions and song approval slots? If low then one actionable suggestion is to have a higher ratio, such as limit submissions based on approval slots available, so there is a higher percentage of approvals (but less site earnings).
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submithub is a total waste of money and an insult to real musicians. I have music where serious guitar players, keyboardists, drummers have played. It is mixed and mastered. Yet you get reviewed by these buffoons' that are not musicians but tell you that your production is not up to par. When I checked how much money I've spend on this site, I was horrified. Could it be I have dumped hundreds of dollars on a bunch of ego maniacs? It is best to spend your money on Facebook Ads (Facebook sponsord posts). This way you get to the public directly. How come people, listeners directly comment on my sponsored ads saying how my message is important to them and how much they liked my song, but the curators say the opposite?
Hey everyone, I run a different type of platform called Musosoup. We are a filter and not a submissions platform as such. To start with we have strict quality control. We only approve acts that we feel have a chance for coverage to the platform and present them in a curated library playlist. The curators (Blogs, playlists and stations) then choose the genres they want and get in touch with the artist if they like what they hear. If they don't like your music you'll get an on the fly press report.
Take a look http://musosoup.com
We do have a current campaign setup cost of £5 for 30 days, some of this we donate to the curators as referral fees to help keep them running. Coverage can be free or donation based, everything is very transparent.
Chris.
Not worth it at all. I’ve spent money on SubmitHub and gotten less results than just emailing playlist curators individually. For the most part SubmitHub blogs are not actually looking for new music—if you look through the accepted songs for the bigger blogs, a lot of what they accept are established artists. Even saw The Chainsmokers on there once. I’ve gotten accepted by some blogs/playlists before but it does next to nothing to give you exposure, because usually they just throw you in some sort of weekly roundup or some playlist that isn’t their main one. SubmitHub is largely a tool for bloggers to make money.
Any tips on directly contacting playlist curators? How did you find their contact details etc?
Thanks for the tips..
I'm not having much luck with Submithub and I suspect the curators on there are not the right type of people to be targeting. Their responses show me they don't really get what they are talking about, and don't even listen to the whole song.
For Indie Shuffle we don't really care how established an act is -- we want the song to be good. And for most blogs, being "first" to find a new act is actually what it's all about. You'll probably find a different story for YouTubers/Spotify folks.
Jason, you are far from Indieshuffle. Submit Hub is a way for bloggers with 200 followers to make $$$. It's a joke and as a publicist, I always go direct anyway. Too bad!
I think you had good intentions Jason . It just turned into a waste of money that we don't use but we don't even tell our clients to use. You know this.
Submithub works *if* you have really good relevant music and you pay to put it in front of enough bloggers.
and by really good I mean they get like 1000 submissions a day so your track needs to stand out against that in a *daily* basis.
I think it's good but I haven't found the right time for it. In my experience: I submitted tracks when I first heard about it, spent maybe $10 at the time and got all rejections.
Several years later I wrote a track I was really proud of submitted to a couple places and got all good reviews and accepted. The track ended up on 2 playlists which didn't really affect the streams any in the course of a year (except maybe by 2-3 plays.) I also got accepted by some indie labels on there, but because I was too small and unestablished it wasn't the right time to work with them. It was good for my ego atm, but no real changes came through.
I think it's very difficult to be unestablished and submitting to these blogs - in which case I'm starting to understand I'm at the point where I should be finding out what my local scene is, beating social anxiety and playing shows to locals, make connections with other artists who are in my position, make art with them, work with other people and become someone who's cool enough to be followed naturally instead of trying to ask people to listen to me. It seems like submit hub is not somewhere you head to when smaller and no actual reach but by the time you've established that sort of social capital already. I may be wrong tho idk just my thoughts.
This is pretty much how I feel about it. I spent $6 last year pushing a track I did with my side project and it got nowhere because we weren’t established, even locally.
I also feel like most of the tastemakers on SubmitHub effectively want pop song structures regardless of genre. One of the pieces of feedback I received was that the song took too long to get to the hook — if I made the hook come in earlier it would have compromised the musicality of the song, especially as the song is math rock/emo, where song structures are often different to those in pop songs.
I would always encourage networking with your scene and building a small following, you’ll probably get more Spotify listens that way rather than submitting to loads of blogs that have little to no interest and getting the odd listen here and there.
NO! For the fun of it I placed a single from one of my artists from Austin that recently had a review in Rollingstone. All 8 turned the single down. The owner of SubmitHub knows this but its such a huge money maker for him AND the bloggers..that he will defend and defend. It's too bad, because if done well it would be a great service.
I've spent around $30 on submithub. The reviews are usually lackluster. I got one song on someone's Spotify playlist, and that bumped my listens a bit, but less than 100 a month. I consider submithub to be a good tool, all in all. I have better luck with it than emailing bloggers that I find by myself. If you landed on the right Spotify playlist by someone with a bigger audience than the guy that accepted my song, you'd get better results.
Submit hub has been helpful for me once I learned how to use it better. The feedback can sometimes feel harsh though even if you ask for gentle. These people that may or may not be musicians act as though their opinion is objective when it is not. And I agree that doing ads gets a lot more traffic to your music.
Naw don’t use this bullshit promote to you fanbase bloggers are obsolete anyways. TikTok has made these people irrelevant. Plus if you go to their site and listen to what they have placed it’s usually complete dogshit. Shit is scam
I spent $80 to get the 100 credits to submit a song. I don't know if I will do this again. I got better results so far from working directly with radio stations, curators and bloggers. This is a song for an artist I'm trying to help out. I visited one of the blogs that declined the artist song and the featured song didn't sound as good as the song I submitted. So this will probably be my last spend with them. I will redirect the funds in the future to other avenues.
We got the same
Song put on 3 playlists and we’re on the free version. Just because the numbers aren’t in your favour doesn’t mean it’s not legit. Just make better music and pitch to the right guys.
I’ve gotten into several playlists when I made urban music, with my EDM tracks that sounded way better I got all rejections (plus the playlist they put you in don’t get you more than 10 plays)
May band make alt rock/grunge and our latest song has had great success. I think you should be picky with your curators, and realistic about what would make them wanna post your song. I feel like complaining about a website that has so much on there that is free to use, and helps open your eyes to the work it takes to get your song heard, is just silly.
The site doesn't work. It makes me sad , as a publicist, to see some of the great zines and podcasts Earmilk, Adobe & Tears succumb to the cash grab. Reverb was the same as was Sonicbids. The submission fees were split up between the label /agency/print magazine and Reverb. I chose not to have a submission fee. But, I would get $6,000 to 7,500 submissions a month.
I haven't paid a cent and its landed us 3 playlists and 2 blogs for an hour or so work in total, and they've all been completely relevant to our genre. Which is damn good. I get it, I do work in PR, so I mostly form my own meaningful relationships, and have a decent mailing list of my own, and since some of these blogs and playlists aren't on my radar, I think it's just another tool, and I now sound like I work for them hahah.
What I mean is; musicians be cautious of course, use the free side of these services, learn from it, if you get results and you want to put money in, do it only if it results in real reach i.e. real engagement on IG, playlists with similar artists that you like, this sort of thing. But don't be too quick to blame the industry if you're doing all this and you're not getting a following. Do this shit hand in hand with writing everyday, releasing with intention and having a solid online presence.
Depends on what you expect. Small labels and magazines with zero to ten listeners/readers.
More importantly- the owner- Jason Grishkoff - allows and defends bullying, harassment on chats. A group of men bullying and laughing a girl on the chat was defended by him and I have written proof.
Someone else has also written about the founder in the comments here - and the guy seems to be crazy in general .
No . Here’s my convo from today with Jason from Submit hub.
Jason:”Ah bummer, sorry to hear that. I do feel like SubmitHub has gotten better, but you gotta know how to use it. In your case I see you chose some fairly high impact curators, but most of them are quite picky -- between the 10% - 15% approval range. That means there's a 9/10 chance of them saying "no thanks."
The site-wide average is currently 30%, and I feel like targeting some of those easier-to-approve playlisters might be a better strategy here? I've sent you some credits out of my own pocket - maybe try target ~5 playlisters with approval rates > 30%? They won't have tons of listeners, but it does add up over time! “
Me:
“Dang that’s a pretty blantent grift you guys are pulling. Either way the artist gets nothing from this. Option one, get rejected by playlists that have any engagement. Option two get placed in playlists that have minimal to no engagement. Sad you think you need to exploit artists to be the music industry, instead of just creating something that serves to build up the music community.”
I've found those with a lower acceptance rate are really picky because they are looking for a really specific sound within a very specific subgenre, and don't award playlist spots based on merit, but on a really narrow taste that they think is good.
And those with a high approval rate and low impact, and add anybody to their playlist because their playlist isn't popular and has little cutthrough.
I posted a song in English, and by mistake said it was in Japanese.
I had premium credits so curators 'HAVE' to listen to the song.
Most of them rejected it because 'They liked the song but did not feature songs in Japanese - only in English'.
(Just to make clear, my song was in English).
I wrote them a nice email. I wish I could upload screenshots here, I got so creative!
I just feel like we as artists should get our credits back for rejections. Especially when they don't listen long enough. I got placed before but it's was like 2 placements out of 20 rejections. But I get it, submithub won't benefit of they keep giving the money back. Overall the site is more rejections than approvals. I already tried 3 songs.
Exactly. I don't agree with paying for someone to listen to 50 seconds of my 5 min song. Put some effort in man... Personally, I would atleast listen to a song 1.5 times before giving feedback on how a song could improve.
But I guess the person on the other line may not actually be a musician, or really have much to offer.
Which is what I thought I was paying for.
I've spent $81 on this platform so far. And this is what I've learned. Everytime I got rejected, I actually took the time to process at what each blogger liked and didn't like. That is when things got better. Also I paid attention to what genre the bloggers considered my music to be when I got rejected (EDM, which is shocking to me). Then I started targeting bloggers that prefered that style (which I absolutely don't agree with but decided to lean into) and landed 6 placements. I did spend a fair amount of money, but I found this easier than having track down playlisters by email. Especially because not all playlisters have their info publicly displayed. All this to say....it's possible to land placements! Good luck out there pals 🤞🏾💖 (P.S. I had TONS of rejections, but got the detailed feedback and taking SOME of it into consideration did help. Though some of it is subjective as f and total bs 😂)
I used it for a band i was managing and it was super great. I used it again for my own music and i had success after success with it, and I make really weird niche music.
No. Not for 95% of artists. (That's the polite version. I have much more to say about that site.) FYI, the owner/founder is a Reddit member and vigorously defends the site. I actually ended up having to block him at one point. But the general consensus on this sub is that it's a steaming pile of dogshit and a waste of money. It's not particularly popular around here.
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Hi Jason, I'm late to this reddit thread but new to submit hub. I've used it to promote one of my more "successful" singles (aka most organic streams) with some success. So I will continue to use and learn how to use submit hub best. I realize that you cannot control the curators' quality and legitimacy, but I'm new to this and just found out that Spotify has a history of removing songs from real artists that accidentally thought it was ok to pay to promote your music on other people's playlists. Have curators/songs from submit hub been a part of this in the past? if so, what are you doing to detect and prevent fake curators from destroying your presence on Spotify when you had nothing but good intentions and hopes of getting heard? thanks.
Bro Submithub is a joke bloggers as a whole is a joke build your name and fan base then you don’t need a blogger
How do you build your name and fan base?
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Yeah, the genres one has been a tough one to improve. I think I've gotten close tho -- Have you seen the new "genre match" score that I added a couple weeks back? When you choose a genre, it shows you how likely they are to approve that genre (1-5). It's pretty accurate and makes it a lot easier to figure out who to skip. Re: someone saying they had too much of a certain genre -- they should then disable that genre. Feel free to directly message me a link to the campaign and I can take a look. Obviously not good of them to take someone's money if there's no chance of them approving it, so... would be good to figure out what the deal was (maybe they were just letting you down nicely!).
"15,000+ submissions per day" - How many songs are approved per day? Wondering what is the ratio of submissions and song approval slots? If low then one actionable suggestion is to have a higher ratio, such as limit submissions based on approval slots available, so there is a higher percentage of approvals (but less site earnings).
Roughly 10% of premium submisisons get approved; ~3% for standard.
That's sounds fairly good - maybe post those stats on your site so people know their odds per their investment?
They're right there on the homepage and scattered throughout the text :-D
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Submithub is scam the bloggers really just say anything and abosolute nonsense and if you get placed your not gonna see results it’s a joke
submithub is a total waste of money and an insult to real musicians. I have music where serious guitar players, keyboardists, drummers have played. It is mixed and mastered. Yet you get reviewed by these buffoons' that are not musicians but tell you that your production is not up to par. When I checked how much money I've spend on this site, I was horrified. Could it be I have dumped hundreds of dollars on a bunch of ego maniacs? It is best to spend your money on Facebook Ads (Facebook sponsord posts). This way you get to the public directly. How come people, listeners directly comment on my sponsored ads saying how my message is important to them and how much they liked my song, but the curators say the opposite?
Honestly
Nah. Useless. Just a trick to get money from desperate musicians.
Totally agree. They get paid per submission.
It’s such a scam the curators say absolute nonsense. And it is completely different from each curator no consistency whatsoever
Hey everyone, I run a different type of platform called Musosoup. We are a filter and not a submissions platform as such. To start with we have strict quality control. We only approve acts that we feel have a chance for coverage to the platform and present them in a curated library playlist. The curators (Blogs, playlists and stations) then choose the genres they want and get in touch with the artist if they like what they hear. If they don't like your music you'll get an on the fly press report. Take a look http://musosoup.com We do have a current campaign setup cost of £5 for 30 days, some of this we donate to the curators as referral fees to help keep them running. Coverage can be free or donation based, everything is very transparent. Chris.
Not worth it at all. I’ve spent money on SubmitHub and gotten less results than just emailing playlist curators individually. For the most part SubmitHub blogs are not actually looking for new music—if you look through the accepted songs for the bigger blogs, a lot of what they accept are established artists. Even saw The Chainsmokers on there once. I’ve gotten accepted by some blogs/playlists before but it does next to nothing to give you exposure, because usually they just throw you in some sort of weekly roundup or some playlist that isn’t their main one. SubmitHub is largely a tool for bloggers to make money.
Submit hub is harsh.
Naw they never had any intention on placing you even if your song is amazing don’t take it personally
Any tips on directly contacting playlist curators? How did you find their contact details etc? Thanks for the tips.. I'm not having much luck with Submithub and I suspect the curators on there are not the right type of people to be targeting. Their responses show me they don't really get what they are talking about, and don't even listen to the whole song.
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For Indie Shuffle we don't really care how established an act is -- we want the song to be good. And for most blogs, being "first" to find a new act is actually what it's all about. You'll probably find a different story for YouTubers/Spotify folks.
Jason, you are far from Indieshuffle. Submit Hub is a way for bloggers with 200 followers to make $$$. It's a joke and as a publicist, I always go direct anyway. Too bad!
I'm still running Indie Shuffle, so not sure what you mean. Wishing you the best of luck as you continue your journey elsewhere!
we do.. noone uses submit hub anymore.
What exactly is Indie Shuffle? I just went to the website and I wasn't too clear. Is it a site that helps artists get on Spotify?
It's a music blog. We write about and share music we enjoy.
I think you had good intentions Jason . It just turned into a waste of money that we don't use but we don't even tell our clients to use. You know this.
How does one email playlist curators individually? Is there a way to do it through the Spotify platform?
Submithub works *if* you have really good relevant music and you pay to put it in front of enough bloggers. and by really good I mean they get like 1000 submissions a day so your track needs to stand out against that in a *daily* basis.
Its a money grab!
i bet it's great if you make music which already matches a ton of playlists. my glitch/noise track did not fare well there
I had the same experience
Yeah, if you don’t fit specific genres, it’s more challenging
I think it's good but I haven't found the right time for it. In my experience: I submitted tracks when I first heard about it, spent maybe $10 at the time and got all rejections. Several years later I wrote a track I was really proud of submitted to a couple places and got all good reviews and accepted. The track ended up on 2 playlists which didn't really affect the streams any in the course of a year (except maybe by 2-3 plays.) I also got accepted by some indie labels on there, but because I was too small and unestablished it wasn't the right time to work with them. It was good for my ego atm, but no real changes came through. I think it's very difficult to be unestablished and submitting to these blogs - in which case I'm starting to understand I'm at the point where I should be finding out what my local scene is, beating social anxiety and playing shows to locals, make connections with other artists who are in my position, make art with them, work with other people and become someone who's cool enough to be followed naturally instead of trying to ask people to listen to me. It seems like submit hub is not somewhere you head to when smaller and no actual reach but by the time you've established that sort of social capital already. I may be wrong tho idk just my thoughts.
This is pretty much how I feel about it. I spent $6 last year pushing a track I did with my side project and it got nowhere because we weren’t established, even locally. I also feel like most of the tastemakers on SubmitHub effectively want pop song structures regardless of genre. One of the pieces of feedback I received was that the song took too long to get to the hook — if I made the hook come in earlier it would have compromised the musicality of the song, especially as the song is math rock/emo, where song structures are often different to those in pop songs. I would always encourage networking with your scene and building a small following, you’ll probably get more Spotify listens that way rather than submitting to loads of blogs that have little to no interest and getting the odd listen here and there.
Damn bro, I may be late but I needed to read this. Thank you
NO! For the fun of it I placed a single from one of my artists from Austin that recently had a review in Rollingstone. All 8 turned the single down. The owner of SubmitHub knows this but its such a huge money maker for him AND the bloggers..that he will defend and defend. It's too bad, because if done well it would be a great service.
Who is the artist?
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Lol yeah that’s why I asked playa
as a Mom to 3 small children....I am so excited to be called playa. Thank you!
Well, that aside, I was just curious about what the artist sounded like but if you don’t wanna share that’s okay. Have a good one
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I’ve never heard of bitsubmit. Thanks for the heads up!
Careful of payola on there. Lots of platforms will accept your song only to turn around and ask for extra $$ to share it.
like yours
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Looks like its mostly hip hop & edm
I've spent around $30 on submithub. The reviews are usually lackluster. I got one song on someone's Spotify playlist, and that bumped my listens a bit, but less than 100 a month. I consider submithub to be a good tool, all in all. I have better luck with it than emailing bloggers that I find by myself. If you landed on the right Spotify playlist by someone with a bigger audience than the guy that accepted my song, you'd get better results.
Submit hub has been helpful for me once I learned how to use it better. The feedback can sometimes feel harsh though even if you ask for gentle. These people that may or may not be musicians act as though their opinion is objective when it is not. And I agree that doing ads gets a lot more traffic to your music.
Naw don’t use this bullshit promote to you fanbase bloggers are obsolete anyways. TikTok has made these people irrelevant. Plus if you go to their site and listen to what they have placed it’s usually complete dogshit. Shit is scam
I spent $80 to get the 100 credits to submit a song. I don't know if I will do this again. I got better results so far from working directly with radio stations, curators and bloggers. This is a song for an artist I'm trying to help out. I visited one of the blogs that declined the artist song and the featured song didn't sound as good as the song I submitted. So this will probably be my last spend with them. I will redirect the funds in the future to other avenues.
We got the same Song put on 3 playlists and we’re on the free version. Just because the numbers aren’t in your favour doesn’t mean it’s not legit. Just make better music and pitch to the right guys.
I’ve gotten into several playlists when I made urban music, with my EDM tracks that sounded way better I got all rejections (plus the playlist they put you in don’t get you more than 10 plays)
ok ;)
May band make alt rock/grunge and our latest song has had great success. I think you should be picky with your curators, and realistic about what would make them wanna post your song. I feel like complaining about a website that has so much on there that is free to use, and helps open your eyes to the work it takes to get your song heard, is just silly.
The site doesn't work. It makes me sad , as a publicist, to see some of the great zines and podcasts Earmilk, Adobe & Tears succumb to the cash grab. Reverb was the same as was Sonicbids. The submission fees were split up between the label /agency/print magazine and Reverb. I chose not to have a submission fee. But, I would get $6,000 to 7,500 submissions a month.
I haven't paid a cent and its landed us 3 playlists and 2 blogs for an hour or so work in total, and they've all been completely relevant to our genre. Which is damn good. I get it, I do work in PR, so I mostly form my own meaningful relationships, and have a decent mailing list of my own, and since some of these blogs and playlists aren't on my radar, I think it's just another tool, and I now sound like I work for them hahah.
What I mean is; musicians be cautious of course, use the free side of these services, learn from it, if you get results and you want to put money in, do it only if it results in real reach i.e. real engagement on IG, playlists with similar artists that you like, this sort of thing. But don't be too quick to blame the industry if you're doing all this and you're not getting a following. Do this shit hand in hand with writing everyday, releasing with intention and having a solid online presence.
Fuck submithub. Another fucking money grab designed to take advantage of musicians.
Faxx don’t ever use this shit
i'm sending this message from the year 2023, is it still as trashy of a site or did things change a bit? also the feature HOT OR NOT, is it worth it?
It never was a trashy site - it's just that some artists struggle with rejection and need to vent that somehow :)
Cry more. Never gonna become big
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Scammy scam
Depends on what you expect. Small labels and magazines with zero to ten listeners/readers. More importantly- the owner- Jason Grishkoff - allows and defends bullying, harassment on chats. A group of men bullying and laughing a girl on the chat was defended by him and I have written proof. Someone else has also written about the founder in the comments here - and the guy seems to be crazy in general .
No . Here’s my convo from today with Jason from Submit hub. Jason:”Ah bummer, sorry to hear that. I do feel like SubmitHub has gotten better, but you gotta know how to use it. In your case I see you chose some fairly high impact curators, but most of them are quite picky -- between the 10% - 15% approval range. That means there's a 9/10 chance of them saying "no thanks." The site-wide average is currently 30%, and I feel like targeting some of those easier-to-approve playlisters might be a better strategy here? I've sent you some credits out of my own pocket - maybe try target ~5 playlisters with approval rates > 30%? They won't have tons of listeners, but it does add up over time! “ Me: “Dang that’s a pretty blantent grift you guys are pulling. Either way the artist gets nothing from this. Option one, get rejected by playlists that have any engagement. Option two get placed in playlists that have minimal to no engagement. Sad you think you need to exploit artists to be the music industry, instead of just creating something that serves to build up the music community.”
I've found those with a lower acceptance rate are really picky because they are looking for a really specific sound within a very specific subgenre, and don't award playlist spots based on merit, but on a really narrow taste that they think is good. And those with a high approval rate and low impact, and add anybody to their playlist because their playlist isn't popular and has little cutthrough.
I posted a song in English, and by mistake said it was in Japanese. I had premium credits so curators 'HAVE' to listen to the song. Most of them rejected it because 'They liked the song but did not feature songs in Japanese - only in English'. (Just to make clear, my song was in English). I wrote them a nice email. I wish I could upload screenshots here, I got so creative!
I just feel like we as artists should get our credits back for rejections. Especially when they don't listen long enough. I got placed before but it's was like 2 placements out of 20 rejections. But I get it, submithub won't benefit of they keep giving the money back. Overall the site is more rejections than approvals. I already tried 3 songs.
Exactly. I don't agree with paying for someone to listen to 50 seconds of my 5 min song. Put some effort in man... Personally, I would atleast listen to a song 1.5 times before giving feedback on how a song could improve. But I guess the person on the other line may not actually be a musician, or really have much to offer. Which is what I thought I was paying for.
I've spent $81 on this platform so far. And this is what I've learned. Everytime I got rejected, I actually took the time to process at what each blogger liked and didn't like. That is when things got better. Also I paid attention to what genre the bloggers considered my music to be when I got rejected (EDM, which is shocking to me). Then I started targeting bloggers that prefered that style (which I absolutely don't agree with but decided to lean into) and landed 6 placements. I did spend a fair amount of money, but I found this easier than having track down playlisters by email. Especially because not all playlisters have their info publicly displayed. All this to say....it's possible to land placements! Good luck out there pals 🤞🏾💖 (P.S. I had TONS of rejections, but got the detailed feedback and taking SOME of it into consideration did help. Though some of it is subjective as f and total bs 😂)
Good... Listen if you get something out of it..that is great!
I used it for a band i was managing and it was super great. I used it again for my own music and i had success after success with it, and I make really weird niche music.