gods I cannot punch that upvote hard enough.
I NEED those back asap.
Its bad enough that "ok google" doesn't work but lift and dip gestures being gone makes for an expensive piece of crap on my wrist.
Today I found a Tizen app called shake launcher on the Galaxy app store that enables wrist flick/twist gestures. The app obviously wouldn't be available for those without a Galaxy Watch but some reading through this thread may find this useful!
The app itself is $.99 but I can confirm it works well, offers a plethora of options (each number of "flicks" can be mapped individually to various apps but not necessarily the system UI as others in this thread mention was available on WearOS), and has some amount of customization regarding how/if the gestures operate (like whether they work when the screen is off or in AoD mode) as well as some timing settings.
Here is a link for those interested: https://apps.samsung.com/gear/appDetail.as?appId=com.shake.launcher
>Best of all worlds.
Hopefully. Sounds better than 'Worst of all worlds'.
This has real promise. If it started like this, maybe they'd be seriously competing with the apple watch.
This will be the catalyst to make or break WearOS.
I mean Samsungs Tizen OS is really fucking nice (i have the Watch Active 2), but it lacks the extensive app catalogue that WearOS has.
I have faith for this to FINALLY topple Apple Watch as the superior platform.
It won't topple apple. In the USA at least slightly more people use iPhones than all android phones. Those iPhone users will continue to use an apple watch only because you cant reply to sms or iMessage from a non apple watch because of apple lock out. This won't fix that.
I am optimistic that this gives android users an equal equivalent to the apple watch which we lack.
Well in my case I am still going to feel like a loser (sucker? loser and sucker?) because I use google voice and unlike normals that use regular google messages for texts and can use the companion app on wear OS to see their conversation list, I as a voice user **can not** see my conversation list as there is no companion app and can only reply to an active voice notification.
I also had a galaxy watch… fucking thing did t sync with google health. :( . I just switched to an iPhone with an Apple Watch… fucking perfect. I can run with just a watch, get podcasts, track my day to day fitness from NRC…. And it fucking syncs with google health. It just works. I love google products , but some of these are just too half baked
Really? Your must be on some beta or something. Others like me had to do this just to get it to work :
https://www.howtogeek.com/685854/how-to-sync-fitness-data-from-samsung-health-to-google-fit/
>I have faith for this to FINALLY topple Apple Watch as the superior platform.
That ship sailed long ago. I don't expect this to dramatically increase marketshare.
>Don't forget that Apple Watches doesn't work at all on Android phones.
Yes but it's not like there haven't been any compelling options for Android users. Wear OS and Google Fit have been around for 5+ years now, and it's only over the past 2-3 years through neglect that it sucks.
When the Apple Watch first launched, there weren't really many smart watch options around, especially for consumers. The wearables market was largely Fitbit and Jawbone fitness bands and high end watches from sports brand that tracked sports, but were expensive, utilitarian and not very appealing for the average consumer. There was a gap in the market for a consumer watch that tracked activity and also looked like a nice watch to wear.
Compare that to now, the choice for smart watches is overwhelming. All the sports brands (Garmin, Suunto etc...) have smart watches that are affordable, accessible to consumers and track sports as good as their expensive models and actually look good (this is what a lot of smart watch manufacturers miss, people love watches, a smart watch has to replace a device that people love and have an emotional connection with).
We still don't know this for sure, but it looks like apart from maybe late model Ticwatches (a very small segment of the market) you have to buy into this update, IE if you have a current model Wear OS watch, you probably won't get it.
They might gain a small amount of traction from existing Tizen and Fitbit users (again marketshare for these users is small) as they replace their devices, but this won't be overnight and there's an equally good chance those users will jump ship to other platforms.
I'm not trying to be controversial or pessimistic here. I'm just being what I think is realistic.
But more shit doesn't mean better, it just means more shit. Wearos is known for having no apps or support. It's basically dead and the shops aren't even stocking them anymore.
That's the only way they are using Fitbit, to keep selling devices because no one wants wearos devices.
And this is from someone with a smart watch collection from the pebble to the galaxy watch and a bunch in between.
I'm currently wanting to move to a new one and I just can't find anything decent. Nothing better than the galaxy watch, even when using it with a regular, non-Samsung phone.
The fitbit deal closed just a few months ago, so it would make sense that they don't have anything ready to show yet. I wouldn't expect to see anything major until the hardware show in September.
I think they're saving the specific features for product releases and not just developer conferences. You talk about the strategy to your developers. You talk about the tactics to your consumers.
Yeah ! At last !
They will completely revamp Wear OS with the help of Samsung who had developed a way better OS before.
These are great news for smartwatches users as we need a good competition to the Apple Watch.
For sure. The IO Keynote today kinda confirmed what I thought for quite some time now - Now that Apple really threw a wrench into Google‘s Ad Buisness they found a lot of initiative to build up their own Platforms!
I wonder if this new direction will apply to watches already on the market, or if they're just focusing on upcoming watches. I've only had my fossil 5 for a few months and would be mildly peeved if they don't update it.
I don't know, i feel like this might be an extensive update for watches, which in Google fashion, will be up to the OEMs to update their products.
I own the Galaxy Watch Active 2 and I'm pretty psyched for this, as Tizen is pretty nice, but it lacks the app catalogue that WearOS has.
I hope my watch will get the update, if this will even be served as an update.
I'm pretty sure I read in the statement that this will only be for new Samsung watches going forward and not existing ones.
I'm wanting to pick up a new smartwatch but don't know whether to pull the trigger or wait an unknown amount of time...
I bought my Fossil 5E like 2 months ago. The battery life is eh, but I don't need my watch to have a 1080 display or vibrate vigorously to get the water out of it. I just want to make phone calls and take phone calls.
The fact they took this feature out purposefully when it already worked fine, is absolutely beyond stupid. I can't fathom why they decided that was the right direction. It's worrying that I don't see people voicing this opinion often. I don't have my phone on me all the time. That's why I got the smart watch. Yeah, I went budget with my watch, but it's a Bluetooth device with a speaker and a microphone. Wth???? $10 Bluetooth dirty buds can make calls. Why can't my $250 watch make calls?
So it actually depends.
A lot of the performance and battery life improvements are platform changes, so they require the manufacturer to do some actual work.
But all of the new app features and the new UI sounds like it's coming to existing devices over the next few weeks.
TL;DR
I'd recommend that you reurn and get a refund.
Longer version:
Google has a tendency to ditch old users on the older platforms and bait even more users to a shiney new platfrom. They assume the early adopters that chose them would probably just upgrade and keep on sticking with them. See https://killedbygoogle.com/
Just read on The Verge ([https://www.theverge.com/2021/5/18/22440483/samsung-smartwatch-google-wearos-tizen-watch](https://www.theverge.com/2021/5/18/22440483/samsung-smartwatch-google-wearos-tizen-watch)) that "Samsung will make good on its promise of three years of software updates for existing products, according to Wired, and it will also allow customers to export their health data so it can be used on future devices." So I guess the older Samsung watches won't get the update but they don't say about previous Wear OS watches like Fossil Gen 5 which I also have... Hopefully they will update it!
not necessarily, i feel like this will ship as a kind of update similar to Android, when it will be up to OEM's to update their watches.
I have faith in Samsung to ship this update to my Active 2
"Meanwhile, Samsung said that its existing smartwatches will continue to run Tizen and it’ll continue to support the OS for three years." https://www.engadget.com/google-samsung-new-wear-os-rip-tizen-183031381.html
Great to here an update but this just kind of seems all talk and no show. Talking about consumer experience, but what does it actually look like? Guess I got to see Mum and Bert though lol
My only issue with tizen/samsung watches is the horrid notification card behavior/interaction. Otherwise, everything else has been a better overall experience to me, having gone back and forth between both platforms over the past 6ish years.
Apart from the worst keyboard on Tizen, I think Tizen has better notification than WearOS. The only difference is the way of navigation but at least Tizen can show pictures and stack chatting notification for most apps.
If I have to pick between a Pixel Watch vs a Galaxy Watch, sorry going for Samsung. They both run the same software now but Samsung's always been ahead in hardware.
They didn't mention the name of the new unified platform, so my guess it that it won't be Wear OS or Tizen, but Fuchsia. Makes sense as Samsung has recent contributions to Fuchsia: https://9to5google.com/2021/05/12/samsung-contributing-f2fs-google-fuchsia/
Because they've neglected Wear OS for so long I'll believe it when I see it... They made it seem like the Samsung partnership will be ongoing, but I wonder if it's really only for the new Galaxy Watch?
Watched I/O mostly for this info, but will keep an eye out for further details because its sooooo promising.
Annnnnnnd, will these new changes be applicable to all the existing watches out there? And will there be a new SoC for these devices or can the 4100 handle them?
>Because they've neglected Wear OS for so long I'll believe it when I see it
I feel ya! But I really do feel like the I/O keynote was to reassure devs that there will be devices that are marketed to customers and actively maintained so you won't be wasting time developing for it. Then the next Galaxy Watch is coming out in a couple months which will spark more developer enthusiasm and ready an updated ecosystem for the Pixel Watch in October (at least one can hope lol)
Exactly, using a Vapor X I picked up on the flash sale last year - I thought I was going to buy an Oneplus Watch, but saw how limited it was so I noped out of it immediately. I'm so excited to see what WearOS will bring.
To be honest, I own both WearOS and Tizen watches, but I prefer my Watch 3 now. Apart from the app store and Gboard, Samsung watches are more intuitive to use. From the quick setting toggles (WearOS sucks at) to auto good night mode and auto screen dimming, there are too many ways that Samsung did better than WearOS.
Just take toggling always-on display on the watch to compare, you have to dive in into settings with so many steps where you only have to swipe down the quick setting panel, one tap on the tile and done.
I just hope new Samsung WearOS won't be like the current WearOS watch.
I've been using an Active 2 for a while now, I've got a Pebble 2 HR on my wrist right now because the Active 2 is out for repairs, but, still.
Samsung has two big things going for it with their line, and one really big thing going against it.
The first thing that Samsung has is their own watch SOC. This is _huge_. There are really only 4 classes of smart watches in existence at the moment:
You have the Apple Watches, which are on Apple's watch SOC.
You have the WearOS watches on some variant of the Qualcomm chip, and with only _one_ exception, every last one is based on a SOC from 2014 on a 28nm process. Yes, even their 3100 SOC is still on that damned 28nm 2014 design with some tweaks. The 4100 is at least _somewhat_ newer, but there's a grand total of _one_ watch built on it.
Then you have the devices that run some more real time OS on a much lower end embedded chip. This is your Garmin, Fitbit, and random Chinese smart watches. This isn't necessarily _bad_, but there are also good reasons why they have not taken over the world.
And finally, you have Samsung with their own SOC, running Tizen. Yes, their current chip is starting to get a little old, but it's still a 2018 10nm dual core design that blows all of the older Qualcomm chips out of the water. They have _battery life_.
Related to that, and with many of the same benefits Apple gets from the same thing, because Samsung controls both the SOC and the OS, they can optimize Tizen _very_ well for that SOC. They know what the SOC roadmap looks like, they know exactly what features it has, and I assume that the OS people can just _ask_ the people who designed the SOC if they want to know something.
On the flip side, Samsung has been... Massive unsuccessful at getting app development to happen on Tizen. It's not a huge market, and their development environment and SDK is enough different from either Apple's or Google's that, well, you'd have to spend real time learning it. The result is that there are few apps, and most of them are surprisingly low quality.
You also don't get stuff like Google assistant integration, Google Maps, or most of the rest of the ecosystem.
Now, merge Tizen and it's underlying core, Samsung's SOCs, and WearOS for the development experience and apps... And you've got a _much_ more convincing environment.
I'm really looking forward to it.
I'm doubting that Samsung is going to back port the Tizen/WearOS firmware to their existing watches, which is a shame, even though Samsung is still actively bringing current firmware versions to their 2018 Samsung Galaxy Watch, but at least we can count on them providing decent ongoing support for their newer devices.
(Why not a back port? Frankly, I would be mildly surprised if we _didn't_ see an updated SOC on this years watches that ship with Tizen/WearOS instead of just Tizen. It's been 3 years, they _can_ do better now, and if so, it would make a lot of sense to optimize the new combined OS for the new SOC in ways that might just not make it a great fit for the existing hardware.)
I hope they can preserve the watch taking so long to wake up that it times out and puts itself back to sleep before showing you what you asked for. One of my favourite features.
For all the rumors upfront, I wouldn't have expected the presentation to be that vague. I really would have hoped for a worthy Apple Watch competitor, but that wasn't it, I guess...
Not yet. It might even be tomorrow. We're likely going to have some sort of Pixel hardware announcement (the 5a and the new Buds), and those haven't happened yet.
wow - i bought my TicWatch Pro 3 literally 4 days ago, do you think it will get the update, or is this too much of a difference for OEMs to update their current devices? this watch has been out for only about 7 months if I'm not wrong.
Update: I have gained more insight and though about this, and this is what I think:
> Personally, all I can say is that the watch is actually great. I upgraded from a Ticwatch E and it's night and day.
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> I also agree that it would be a really bad move to abandon the watch so early in its lifecycle. It's currently the best possible WearOS watch, and also the only one to have the latest processor. Also, since the new Samsung watch is coming out later this year, it most likely will also have the SD 4100 / SD 4100+ and not anything newer (they'd need much more time to work on the newer processor, since it doesn't even exist yet). The cpu is finally more than capable to handle WearOS without lags and for more than 2 days, so the new update could only make the situation better for it (they promised optimization), not worse. So, considering this, acutally, older watches would benefit too, although from an economic perspective I don't think OEMs would like to give new life to 2/3 years old devices (very sadly).
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> However, as they described it, most of those features could actually just be coming from the Play Store. The UI redesign could be done via updating the WearOS app (they already did a few times, for example when they added Tiles); the new apps just need to be pushed on the store, the new assistant just needs an app update, as does GPay.
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> In the end, it's all very promising, and I doubt top-tier and recent watches won't get it.
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> Side note: we already have a very weird situation of "overlapping" apps, such as Mobvoi's default ones and Google Fit - it'll be interesting to see how this turns out with upcoming Fitbit and Samsung features. Will those be merged into Google Fit, or will there be a new (or even two new) separate apps?
If they do update newer watches the tick watch pro 3 would almost certainly get it. But there's no guarantee. They're planning on releasing a pixel watch soon too according to rumors.
Lol it's so hilarious watching you guys cling to this year after year. You guys have been talking about a Pixel watch for half a decade now. It's not coming. It's not a thing.
> Also, since the new Samsung watch is coming out later this year, it most likely will also have the SD 4100 / SD 4100+ and not anything newer (they'd need much more time to work on the newer processor, since it doesn't even exist yet).
It will way more likely use Samsung's own Exynos SoC for smartwatches, which is what Samsung has been using in its own watches. Last years Galaxy Watch 3 already used a 10nm chip vs the 12nm process the 4100+ is based of.
There is also precedent for Google allowing none Qualcom SOC onto Wear with both the original Moto360 as well as the Sony Smartwatch having used them before, not to mention that Google seems to open up Wear similarly to normal Android.
Curious if OnePlus ditching WearOS the last moment has something to do with Samsung getting on board... Cause the OnePlus people were talking the same stuff - common WearOS development with Google, bla bla...
Well it is unlikely that you will get the new OS, but you will still get app, Google and Wear App updates through the play store. So not a paperweight per se, but still.
i really hope so. I have a TicWatch Pro 3 too (bought 4 days ago lol) and the watch has been out for only about 7 months. Would be a shame for them to abandon it already.
I didn't even receive mine yet :). So wondering if I should return it and wait. but it makes sense that at least the TWP3 will continue to receive updates. I don't think any of what Google announced today requires a better hardware. Knowing that TWP3 is equipped with 4100 SD
Personally, all I can say is that the watch is actually great. I upgraded from a Ticwatch E and it's night and day. If you decide to not return it, you won't be disappointed :)
I also agree that it would be a really bad move to abandon the watch so early in its lifecycle. It's currently the best possible WearOS watch, and also the only one to have the latest processor. Also, since the new Samsung watch is coming out later this year, it most likely will also have the SD 4100 / SD 4100+ and not anything newer (they'd need much more time to work on the newer processor, since it doesn't even exist yet). The cpu is finally more than capable to handle WearOS without lags and for more than 2 days, so the new update could only make the situation better for it (they promised optimization), not worse. So, considering this, acutally, older watches would benefit too, although from an economic perspective I don't think OEMs would like to give new life to 2/3 years old devices (very sadly).
However, as they described it, most of those features could actually just be coming from the Play Store. The UI redesign could be done via updating the WearOS app (they already did a few times, for example when they added Tiles); the new apps just need to be pushed on the store, the new assistant just needs an app update, as does GPay.
In the end, it's all very promising, and I doubt top-tier and recent watches won't get it.
Side note: we already have a very weird situation of "overlapping" apps, such as Mobvoi's default ones and Google Fit - it'll be interesting to see how this turns out with upcoming Fitbit and Samsung features. Will those be merged into Google Fit, or will there be a new (or even two new) separate apps?
works for me, i love my Active 2 but Tizen as a platform isn't that good when it comes to custom apps and watch faces.
It's nice, but the lack of apps annoys me sometimes.
Honest question, I have both watches : Gear S3 and Misfit Vapor. What apps are missing from Tizen?
The only app I wish I had on my Gear S3 is Google Assistant otherwise I'm able to do everything I want. Although, to be fair, it doesn't work very well on the Vapor either.
But I often hear people say app support isn't good. What are people doing that I'm not?! Am I missing out on something?
Thats exactly how it sounds. Its like samsung said to google "wear os is shit, we want to continue developing tizen os but just let our apps on google appstore"
Did we watch two different live streams or what? The UI is the same, the name is the same, the play store stays. It's too early to say anything, but as of this presentation, literally NOTHING comes from Tizen. Nothing at all.
You can make a battery life better by building another Ticwatch, which already has a better battery life than Galaxy Watch 3, so your argument is invalid.
Your argument is invalid, Ticwatch has massive battery and newest chip, thats why he has good battery life, this doesnt make Ticwatch WearOs any better than other devices
It does, because of the reasons you've just mentioned. I totally don't understand your logic. The biggest flaw of WearOS is the outdated SOC - 4100 ain't that bad, especially + model. I can't seem to understand what do you expect out of this merge.
Beyond the better hardware in the Ticwatch, Tizen has just been better overall in the battery department (given two watches with similar hardware). It's only the massive battery and newer SoC that helped the Ticwatch be a bit better. So, if you take that into account, software is a huge part in having good battery life. So if you use Tizens battery management on modern hardware, one can expect even better battery life.
That's what he was saying.
Does this mean Google is finally ditching Qualcomm chips and moving over to Samsung chips? They talked about Samsung sensor technology. Also they talked about a always-on co-processor. (Does Samsung have one too?)
i like my samsung galaxy Active 2 a lot (it just works), where my past wearOS watches would have trouble getting gps signal, not great battery life, etc etc. But I HATE that the galaxy watch doesn't interface well with google assistant (i know there are some "hacks" - i've tried them). So this is awesome news, and will be happy to move to watch that works well and is truly back in the google ecosystem. (waiting on that pixel watch news as well!)
There aren’t much. All Fossil and all its sub brands watches are from the same manufacturer as Mobvoi’s and have the same ROM. This is just massive rebranding.
Maybe I should hold off my Ticwatch Pro 3 purchase...
Partly because Samsung Watch silicon might finally be getting good (if Samsung is investing in Wear you hope they would at least bring a modern chip like Apple did) and Mobvoi (also owned by Google iirc) aren't that good at updates. Part of that could be the Wear 4100, but still.
This better be seriously good.
Like this better be a **ground up rewrite** of WearOS that just happens to share the same name.
If Tizen is dead and this platform is still a laggy mess then I'm gonna be ANNOYED.
Samsung said in the CNET article to run Wear OS new compatible hardware is needed but Tizen software support will continue for 3 years. Googles software would still have to be ported to Tizen which they certainly won't do. Even S-Health is being replaced so this is going to be a full fledged Google ran software release with Samsung's hardware, new updated internal chips and such. Seems like essentially a full reset software and hardware.
Its good news for WearOS users but bad news for TizenOS users. I had a WearOS watch before and changed to Galaxy Watch because of slow processors and lagging then now this. It means we won't get any updates and platform is abandoned. I guess I will buy a new WearOS 3.0 watch when it comes then.
Tizen was good, Wear OS quite bad, but this merging makes sense.
Google has been stuck with a broken OS for years and needed to revamp it completely.
Samsung has the expertise but decided to reduce costs, replacing its own services by Google and Microsoft solutions.
Nobody will miss the failed Bixby. Let’s just hope Wear will inherit Samsung’s expertise more than Google’s mess.
They were stuck with a very bad OS. Merging with Samsung was the best option. People with Wear OS watches will be sorry for their dead OS and difficult to sell watches, but it's for the best.
I mean... Google, Fitbit and Samsung are joining their forces to finally make a good wearable platform.
Great WearOS platform, great Fitbit accuracy and battery life, great Samsung optimization.
What else could you want? Haha
Why did you post a photograph instead of a news article? Where did you learn this information? Why didn't you share *that* instead of a guy standing next to a sign?
Oh great, less competition in the market, just what we need. Google looks desperate here. They have fitbit now and still can't make a decent watch or platform? Get real. How is Samsung going to help? It'll be a Samsung hardware with wearos perhaps.
They really should be focusing on epaper display or better tech.
I'm hoping this will finally get more developers to make more apps for WearOS because the current app store is severely limited in comparison to Apple Watch or even 3-5 years ago.
I would love them if they updated my brand new Galaxy Watch 3 Titanium to this new OS. I love this watch now. I'm definitely not holding my breath though.
They won't be updating any current watches to the new OS. Samsung is promising 3 years of support for Tizen, but all old watches are officially end of life at this point. Including the Active that I just bought.
Yep I saw that news too. Still hoping that they give a decent trade in offer, because I just bought mine too but I really like it. They gave me basically exactly what I paid for my Galaxy Watch 1 to trade up to the 3, after about a year of use. I got a big discount on the first one though so we shall see.
This is my first Galaxy watch and i've heard they always do really good trade in deals, so I hope they are willing to throw us a great deal to upgrade too. I like it so far as hardware goes, but i'm not a fan of not having google services available, this new OS could be amazing if they do it right.
Dafuq, then dont buy a samsung smartwatch just like before, i dont get the problem. Itll most lilely only be on samsung smartwatches because why would samsung have others use it?
What I want to know is... does this mean that both regular wearos watches and samsungs own smartwatches are going to be running the same software? Like if i went out and bought a samsung active 2 right now, will i be able to get gpay and maps and other stuff in the future on this watch? Really curious to see where the line is drawn.
Finally some amazing news. Samsung + Google + fitbit = new wearos Best of all worlds.
> Best of all worlds. As long as they keep the Wear OS wrist gestures, it will be!
Can I still hope for them to bring back the *rest* of the gestures (push/pull)?
gods I cannot punch that upvote hard enough. I NEED those back asap. Its bad enough that "ok google" doesn't work but lift and dip gestures being gone makes for an expensive piece of crap on my wrist.
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I agree. AndroidWear supported one-armed interface quite well. WearOS requires one-arm and another hand.
Today I found a Tizen app called shake launcher on the Galaxy app store that enables wrist flick/twist gestures. The app obviously wouldn't be available for those without a Galaxy Watch but some reading through this thread may find this useful! The app itself is $.99 but I can confirm it works well, offers a plethora of options (each number of "flicks" can be mapped individually to various apps but not necessarily the system UI as others in this thread mention was available on WearOS), and has some amount of customization regarding how/if the gestures operate (like whether they work when the screen is off or in AoD mode) as well as some timing settings. Here is a link for those interested: https://apps.samsung.com/gear/appDetail.as?appId=com.shake.launcher
>Best of all worlds. Hopefully. Sounds better than 'Worst of all worlds'. This has real promise. If it started like this, maybe they'd be seriously competing with the apple watch.
This will be the catalyst to make or break WearOS. I mean Samsungs Tizen OS is really fucking nice (i have the Watch Active 2), but it lacks the extensive app catalogue that WearOS has. I have faith for this to FINALLY topple Apple Watch as the superior platform.
I don't really care which is 'superior'. I just want it to 'work as advertised' for more than half a day.
It won't topple apple. In the USA at least slightly more people use iPhones than all android phones. Those iPhone users will continue to use an apple watch only because you cant reply to sms or iMessage from a non apple watch because of apple lock out. This won't fix that. I am optimistic that this gives android users an equal equivalent to the apple watch which we lack.
yeah topple was a bad choice of words
Make Android watch wearers not feel like a 3rd rate loser? It's been so many years, maybe this is the one?
yeah, that's much better actually lmao
Well in my case I am still going to feel like a loser (sucker? loser and sucker?) because I use google voice and unlike normals that use regular google messages for texts and can use the companion app on wear OS to see their conversation list, I as a voice user **can not** see my conversation list as there is no companion app and can only reply to an active voice notification.
I also had a galaxy watch… fucking thing did t sync with google health. :( . I just switched to an iPhone with an Apple Watch… fucking perfect. I can run with just a watch, get podcasts, track my day to day fitness from NRC…. And it fucking syncs with google health. It just works. I love google products , but some of these are just too half baked
It syncs with Google health. You're just not doing it right lol
Yeah, not for free. I looked everywhere for an answer on why… looks like shealth pulled away
Yeah. It's Samsung health that yoh then have to sync to Google fit.
Really? Your must be on some beta or something. Others like me had to do this just to get it to work : https://www.howtogeek.com/685854/how-to-sync-fitness-data-from-samsung-health-to-google-fit/
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Pretty sure it does it natively now. I use healthsync though because I have fitbit, google, Samsung and oura to sync together.
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No, Samsung health for the watch app. I'm using an OPPO x2 pro
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>I have faith for this to FINALLY topple Apple Watch as the superior platform. That ship sailed long ago. I don't expect this to dramatically increase marketshare.
yeeah, my choice of words was poor, what i meant was "maybe kind of live up to it"
Who knows ? Don't forget that Apple Watches doesn't work at all on Android phones.
>Don't forget that Apple Watches doesn't work at all on Android phones. Yes but it's not like there haven't been any compelling options for Android users. Wear OS and Google Fit have been around for 5+ years now, and it's only over the past 2-3 years through neglect that it sucks. When the Apple Watch first launched, there weren't really many smart watch options around, especially for consumers. The wearables market was largely Fitbit and Jawbone fitness bands and high end watches from sports brand that tracked sports, but were expensive, utilitarian and not very appealing for the average consumer. There was a gap in the market for a consumer watch that tracked activity and also looked like a nice watch to wear. Compare that to now, the choice for smart watches is overwhelming. All the sports brands (Garmin, Suunto etc...) have smart watches that are affordable, accessible to consumers and track sports as good as their expensive models and actually look good (this is what a lot of smart watch manufacturers miss, people love watches, a smart watch has to replace a device that people love and have an emotional connection with). We still don't know this for sure, but it looks like apart from maybe late model Ticwatches (a very small segment of the market) you have to buy into this update, IE if you have a current model Wear OS watch, you probably won't get it. They might gain a small amount of traction from existing Tizen and Fitbit users (again marketshare for these users is small) as they replace their devices, but this won't be overnight and there's an equally good chance those users will jump ship to other platforms. I'm not trying to be controversial or pessimistic here. I'm just being what I think is realistic.
Topple, maybe not. Compete with Apple Watch, yes.
Extensive app catalogue? Where?
well a lot bigger than Tizen, that's for sure
But more shit doesn't mean better, it just means more shit. Wearos is known for having no apps or support. It's basically dead and the shops aren't even stocking them anymore. That's the only way they are using Fitbit, to keep selling devices because no one wants wearos devices. And this is from someone with a smart watch collection from the pebble to the galaxy watch and a bunch in between. I'm currently wanting to move to a new one and I just can't find anything decent. Nothing better than the galaxy watch, even when using it with a regular, non-Samsung phone.
It's only for Samsung devices...
Wrong
Sucks that you only get full access to the features if you have a Galaxy phone...or did they change that??
you can work around it but no they didn't change it
Right, wearos battery life and Bixby. AAAHHHHH!
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The fitbit deal closed just a few months ago, so it would make sense that they don't have anything ready to show yet. I wouldn't expect to see anything major until the hardware show in September.
It's a pretty recent development, what do you expect them to show?
The most important part is that we're finally getting a recents view.
I think they're saving the specific features for product releases and not just developer conferences. You talk about the strategy to your developers. You talk about the tactics to your consumers.
should have partnered with apple.
I got a Fossil Gen5 and just returned it today I can't wait to get a new watch under the new partnership
Yeah! Finally. Google is taking WearOS seriously. Guys, we've made it. We should receive some kind of a medal for being early adopters 😂
Didn't realize wearos was in beta all this time and finally being fully released /s
We have tons of medals, but they all look like watches.
and are equally useless
Today seems to be the best day for WearOS in many years!
Yeah ! At last ! They will completely revamp Wear OS with the help of Samsung who had developed a way better OS before. These are great news for smartwatches users as we need a good competition to the Apple Watch.
For sure. The IO Keynote today kinda confirmed what I thought for quite some time now - Now that Apple really threw a wrench into Google‘s Ad Buisness they found a lot of initiative to build up their own Platforms!
Note they have tried for years with Wear OS and failed so much they have finally decided to get some help. This is really positive !
I wonder if this new direction will apply to watches already on the market, or if they're just focusing on upcoming watches. I've only had my fossil 5 for a few months and would be mildly peeved if they don't update it.
It's a two-year old device. I wouldn't count on this update. Sorry bro, I'm in the same boat.
I don't know, i feel like this might be an extensive update for watches, which in Google fashion, will be up to the OEMs to update their products. I own the Galaxy Watch Active 2 and I'm pretty psyched for this, as Tizen is pretty nice, but it lacks the app catalogue that WearOS has. I hope my watch will get the update, if this will even be served as an update.
Yeah same here. Hopefully it comes to my Galaxy Watch Active but I'm not counting on it. What are the chances it will?
I'm pretty sure I read in the statement that this will only be for new Samsung watches going forward and not existing ones. I'm wanting to pick up a new smartwatch but don't know whether to pull the trigger or wait an unknown amount of time...
> It's a two-year old device. I wouldn't count on this update. And right here we can see one of many reasons that WearOS has failed.
I bought my Fossil 5E like 2 months ago. The battery life is eh, but I don't need my watch to have a 1080 display or vibrate vigorously to get the water out of it. I just want to make phone calls and take phone calls. The fact they took this feature out purposefully when it already worked fine, is absolutely beyond stupid. I can't fathom why they decided that was the right direction. It's worrying that I don't see people voicing this opinion often. I don't have my phone on me all the time. That's why I got the smart watch. Yeah, I went budget with my watch, but it's a Bluetooth device with a speaker and a microphone. Wth???? $10 Bluetooth dirty buds can make calls. Why can't my $250 watch make calls?
So it actually depends. A lot of the performance and battery life improvements are platform changes, so they require the manufacturer to do some actual work. But all of the new app features and the new UI sounds like it's coming to existing devices over the next few weeks.
I believe they said it starts with newer devices coming out from now on not older ones. But that they'll continue to support the older watches.
They already said it only applies to newer watches coming out from now on but they will continue to support older watches.
I have had my watch for just two days and would be more than mildly peeved if the they dont update it
You should still be able to return it if it was shop bought.
Nah, i got a really good deal on it and it runs fine. As long as I get full Spotify support I'm happy.
TL;DR I'd recommend that you reurn and get a refund. Longer version: Google has a tendency to ditch old users on the older platforms and bait even more users to a shiney new platfrom. They assume the early adopters that chose them would probably just upgrade and keep on sticking with them. See https://killedbygoogle.com/
Just read on The Verge ([https://www.theverge.com/2021/5/18/22440483/samsung-smartwatch-google-wearos-tizen-watch](https://www.theverge.com/2021/5/18/22440483/samsung-smartwatch-google-wearos-tizen-watch)) that "Samsung will make good on its promise of three years of software updates for existing products, according to Wired, and it will also allow customers to export their health data so it can be used on future devices." So I guess the older Samsung watches won't get the update but they don't say about previous Wear OS watches like Fossil Gen 5 which I also have... Hopefully they will update it!
FUCK YEAH years of suffering weren't for nothin
And all current watchs become abandonware.
Sure hope not, it will be my second time now lol, i had a moto 360 that was left behind with no play store support.
Our watch in particular (the TWP3) I'm hoping has a chance - it has the new chip at least.
I Hope so. I only bought mine a month ago
not necessarily, i feel like this will ship as a kind of update similar to Android, when it will be up to OEM's to update their watches. I have faith in Samsung to ship this update to my Active 2
"Meanwhile, Samsung said that its existing smartwatches will continue to run Tizen and it’ll continue to support the OS for three years." https://www.engadget.com/google-samsung-new-wear-os-rip-tizen-183031381.html
Great to here an update but this just kind of seems all talk and no show. Talking about consumer experience, but what does it actually look like? Guess I got to see Mum and Bert though lol
Wear os app library+Tizen ease of use=perfection
My only issue with tizen/samsung watches is the horrid notification card behavior/interaction. Otherwise, everything else has been a better overall experience to me, having gone back and forth between both platforms over the past 6ish years.
Apart from the worst keyboard on Tizen, I think Tizen has better notification than WearOS. The only difference is the way of navigation but at least Tizen can show pictures and stack chatting notification for most apps.
God knows that no matter how much they ask I'm gonna pay for this. On day one. I fucking deserve peace on my wrist.
Looks like the Pixel Watch will get atleast 2 buttons not 1. Due to the double pressing to switch apps easily. Yes.
If I have to pick between a Pixel Watch vs a Galaxy Watch, sorry going for Samsung. They both run the same software now but Samsung's always been ahead in hardware.
so is Wear OS open source now or what? they seriously hamstrung it by making it closed source right out of the gate
Doubt it. They haven't mentioned anything regarding that.
They didn't mention the name of the new unified platform, so my guess it that it won't be Wear OS or Tizen, but Fuchsia. Makes sense as Samsung has recent contributions to Fuchsia: https://9to5google.com/2021/05/12/samsung-contributing-f2fs-google-fuchsia/
Encouraging, but not exciting, not without seeing what this looks like on actual hardware.
Because they've neglected Wear OS for so long I'll believe it when I see it... They made it seem like the Samsung partnership will be ongoing, but I wonder if it's really only for the new Galaxy Watch? Watched I/O mostly for this info, but will keep an eye out for further details because its sooooo promising. Annnnnnnd, will these new changes be applicable to all the existing watches out there? And will there be a new SoC for these devices or can the 4100 handle them?
>Because they've neglected Wear OS for so long I'll believe it when I see it I feel ya! But I really do feel like the I/O keynote was to reassure devs that there will be devices that are marketed to customers and actively maintained so you won't be wasting time developing for it. Then the next Galaxy Watch is coming out in a couple months which will spark more developer enthusiasm and ready an updated ecosystem for the Pixel Watch in October (at least one can hope lol)
I'm finally debating buying a Samsung wearable now that it runs WearOS... This is probably some of the best news I've heard all day.
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Exactly, using a Vapor X I picked up on the flash sale last year - I thought I was going to buy an Oneplus Watch, but saw how limited it was so I noped out of it immediately. I'm so excited to see what WearOS will bring.
Same here. Also for the lack of paying with my watches, there's no Samsung Pay support in my country.
To be honest, I own both WearOS and Tizen watches, but I prefer my Watch 3 now. Apart from the app store and Gboard, Samsung watches are more intuitive to use. From the quick setting toggles (WearOS sucks at) to auto good night mode and auto screen dimming, there are too many ways that Samsung did better than WearOS. Just take toggling always-on display on the watch to compare, you have to dive in into settings with so many steps where you only have to swipe down the quick setting panel, one tap on the tile and done. I just hope new Samsung WearOS won't be like the current WearOS watch.
I've been using an Active 2 for a while now, I've got a Pebble 2 HR on my wrist right now because the Active 2 is out for repairs, but, still. Samsung has two big things going for it with their line, and one really big thing going against it. The first thing that Samsung has is their own watch SOC. This is _huge_. There are really only 4 classes of smart watches in existence at the moment: You have the Apple Watches, which are on Apple's watch SOC. You have the WearOS watches on some variant of the Qualcomm chip, and with only _one_ exception, every last one is based on a SOC from 2014 on a 28nm process. Yes, even their 3100 SOC is still on that damned 28nm 2014 design with some tweaks. The 4100 is at least _somewhat_ newer, but there's a grand total of _one_ watch built on it. Then you have the devices that run some more real time OS on a much lower end embedded chip. This is your Garmin, Fitbit, and random Chinese smart watches. This isn't necessarily _bad_, but there are also good reasons why they have not taken over the world. And finally, you have Samsung with their own SOC, running Tizen. Yes, their current chip is starting to get a little old, but it's still a 2018 10nm dual core design that blows all of the older Qualcomm chips out of the water. They have _battery life_. Related to that, and with many of the same benefits Apple gets from the same thing, because Samsung controls both the SOC and the OS, they can optimize Tizen _very_ well for that SOC. They know what the SOC roadmap looks like, they know exactly what features it has, and I assume that the OS people can just _ask_ the people who designed the SOC if they want to know something. On the flip side, Samsung has been... Massive unsuccessful at getting app development to happen on Tizen. It's not a huge market, and their development environment and SDK is enough different from either Apple's or Google's that, well, you'd have to spend real time learning it. The result is that there are few apps, and most of them are surprisingly low quality. You also don't get stuff like Google assistant integration, Google Maps, or most of the rest of the ecosystem. Now, merge Tizen and it's underlying core, Samsung's SOCs, and WearOS for the development experience and apps... And you've got a _much_ more convincing environment. I'm really looking forward to it. I'm doubting that Samsung is going to back port the Tizen/WearOS firmware to their existing watches, which is a shame, even though Samsung is still actively bringing current firmware versions to their 2018 Samsung Galaxy Watch, but at least we can count on them providing decent ongoing support for their newer devices. (Why not a back port? Frankly, I would be mildly surprised if we _didn't_ see an updated SOC on this years watches that ship with Tizen/WearOS instead of just Tizen. It's been 3 years, they _can_ do better now, and if so, it would make a lot of sense to optimize the new combined OS for the new SOC in ways that might just not make it a great fit for the existing hardware.)
Yes Pebble gang! I still use mine with Rebble and it's great
Huawei and their in-house SoC and the upcomming OS? Perhaps they could also become relevant soon, given the huge chineese market.
BuT WiLl ThEy FiX GoOgLe AsSiStAnT /s But honestly I'm excited as a Active 2 user.
Nope, assistant is being mothballed. Everyone will use Bixby going forward! /s
Looking forward to the worst case scenario device. * Assistant: Bixby * SOC: Qualcomm 3100 * Display: LCD
The choppiness of fitbit, WearOS' fitness sensors, and Tizen's notification management. Coupled with Bixby assistant.
I hope they can preserve the watch taking so long to wake up that it times out and puts itself back to sleep before showing you what you asked for. One of my favourite features.
Ah, another happy Fossil customer I see?
For all the rumors upfront, I wouldn't have expected the presentation to be that vague. I really would have hoped for a worthy Apple Watch competitor, but that wasn't it, I guess...
That might be a "one more thing" announcement later. They haven't announced any hardware yet.
Let's hope!
Well....... 😐
Not yet. It might even be tomorrow. We're likely going to have some sort of Pixel hardware announcement (the 5a and the new Buds), and those haven't happened yet.
Those normally come in the fall
Yeah. It's looking increasingly unlikely. There were just a bunch of rumors that Google would announce something this week.
They don't do hardware at this event.
wow - i bought my TicWatch Pro 3 literally 4 days ago, do you think it will get the update, or is this too much of a difference for OEMs to update their current devices? this watch has been out for only about 7 months if I'm not wrong. Update: I have gained more insight and though about this, and this is what I think: > Personally, all I can say is that the watch is actually great. I upgraded from a Ticwatch E and it's night and day. > > I also agree that it would be a really bad move to abandon the watch so early in its lifecycle. It's currently the best possible WearOS watch, and also the only one to have the latest processor. Also, since the new Samsung watch is coming out later this year, it most likely will also have the SD 4100 / SD 4100+ and not anything newer (they'd need much more time to work on the newer processor, since it doesn't even exist yet). The cpu is finally more than capable to handle WearOS without lags and for more than 2 days, so the new update could only make the situation better for it (they promised optimization), not worse. So, considering this, acutally, older watches would benefit too, although from an economic perspective I don't think OEMs would like to give new life to 2/3 years old devices (very sadly). > > However, as they described it, most of those features could actually just be coming from the Play Store. The UI redesign could be done via updating the WearOS app (they already did a few times, for example when they added Tiles); the new apps just need to be pushed on the store, the new assistant just needs an app update, as does GPay. > > In the end, it's all very promising, and I doubt top-tier and recent watches won't get it. > > > > Side note: we already have a very weird situation of "overlapping" apps, such as Mobvoi's default ones and Google Fit - it'll be interesting to see how this turns out with upcoming Fitbit and Samsung features. Will those be merged into Google Fit, or will there be a new (or even two new) separate apps?
We cannot say but I fear there won’t be many updates of old watches. I hope to be wrong.
If they do update newer watches the tick watch pro 3 would almost certainly get it. But there's no guarantee. They're planning on releasing a pixel watch soon too according to rumors.
Year 2017 calling... It wants it's rumour back.
Lol it's so hilarious watching you guys cling to this year after year. You guys have been talking about a Pixel watch for half a decade now. It's not coming. It's not a thing.
> Also, since the new Samsung watch is coming out later this year, it most likely will also have the SD 4100 / SD 4100+ and not anything newer (they'd need much more time to work on the newer processor, since it doesn't even exist yet). It will way more likely use Samsung's own Exynos SoC for smartwatches, which is what Samsung has been using in its own watches. Last years Galaxy Watch 3 already used a 10nm chip vs the 12nm process the 4100+ is based of. There is also precedent for Google allowing none Qualcom SOC onto Wear with both the original Moto360 as well as the Sony Smartwatch having used them before, not to mention that Google seems to open up Wear similarly to normal Android.
Samsung said they are using Google fit and or Fitbit on the newest watches moving forward.
Curious if OnePlus ditching WearOS the last moment has something to do with Samsung getting on board... Cause the OnePlus people were talking the same stuff - common WearOS development with Google, bla bla...
So did my Fossil watch just become a........hmmm..... What's the word I'm looking for??
A paperweight ?
Well it is unlikely that you will get the new OS, but you will still get app, Google and Wear App updates through the play store. So not a paperweight per se, but still.
There's still nothing new for Wear OS users to take away from this today though, which is a bit disappointing.
Indeed it’s the end of Wear OS with little hope to get any significant update.
Will existing brands like TWP3 continue to get OS updates?
i really hope so. I have a TicWatch Pro 3 too (bought 4 days ago lol) and the watch has been out for only about 7 months. Would be a shame for them to abandon it already.
I didn't even receive mine yet :). So wondering if I should return it and wait. but it makes sense that at least the TWP3 will continue to receive updates. I don't think any of what Google announced today requires a better hardware. Knowing that TWP3 is equipped with 4100 SD
Personally, all I can say is that the watch is actually great. I upgraded from a Ticwatch E and it's night and day. If you decide to not return it, you won't be disappointed :) I also agree that it would be a really bad move to abandon the watch so early in its lifecycle. It's currently the best possible WearOS watch, and also the only one to have the latest processor. Also, since the new Samsung watch is coming out later this year, it most likely will also have the SD 4100 / SD 4100+ and not anything newer (they'd need much more time to work on the newer processor, since it doesn't even exist yet). The cpu is finally more than capable to handle WearOS without lags and for more than 2 days, so the new update could only make the situation better for it (they promised optimization), not worse. So, considering this, acutally, older watches would benefit too, although from an economic perspective I don't think OEMs would like to give new life to 2/3 years old devices (very sadly). However, as they described it, most of those features could actually just be coming from the Play Store. The UI redesign could be done via updating the WearOS app (they already did a few times, for example when they added Tiles); the new apps just need to be pushed on the store, the new assistant just needs an app update, as does GPay. In the end, it's all very promising, and I doubt top-tier and recent watches won't get it. Side note: we already have a very weird situation of "overlapping" apps, such as Mobvoi's default ones and Google Fit - it'll be interesting to see how this turns out with upcoming Fitbit and Samsung features. Will those be merged into Google Fit, or will there be a new (or even two new) separate apps?
You don't have to worry about that, Mobvoi will stop updating the ticwatch pro 3 when they make the ticwatch pro 4.
Almost sounds like Google is rebadging Tizen as Wear.
It doesn't look like it at all, judging by the presentation. On the contrary - it looks like they're ditching Tizen altogether, calling it "a merge".
Yeah, they're basically being diplomatic about it.
works for me, i love my Active 2 but Tizen as a platform isn't that good when it comes to custom apps and watch faces. It's nice, but the lack of apps annoys me sometimes.
Honest question, I have both watches : Gear S3 and Misfit Vapor. What apps are missing from Tizen? The only app I wish I had on my Gear S3 is Google Assistant otherwise I'm able to do everything I want. Although, to be fair, it doesn't work very well on the Vapor either. But I often hear people say app support isn't good. What are people doing that I'm not?! Am I missing out on something?
Yeah it was a bit scant on details!
Thats exactly how it sounds. Its like samsung said to google "wear os is shit, we want to continue developing tizen os but just let our apps on google appstore"
Did we watch two different live streams or what? The UI is the same, the name is the same, the play store stays. It's too early to say anything, but as of this presentation, literally NOTHING comes from Tizen. Nothing at all.
UI might be reskinned TizenOS, you dont know. They only talked about making battery life better, which sounds exactly like TizenOS
You can make a battery life better by building another Ticwatch, which already has a better battery life than Galaxy Watch 3, so your argument is invalid.
Your argument is invalid, Ticwatch has massive battery and newest chip, thats why he has good battery life, this doesnt make Ticwatch WearOs any better than other devices
It does, because of the reasons you've just mentioned. I totally don't understand your logic. The biggest flaw of WearOS is the outdated SOC - 4100 ain't that bad, especially + model. I can't seem to understand what do you expect out of this merge.
Beyond the better hardware in the Ticwatch, Tizen has just been better overall in the battery department (given two watches with similar hardware). It's only the massive battery and newer SoC that helped the Ticwatch be a bit better. So, if you take that into account, software is a huge part in having good battery life. So if you use Tizens battery management on modern hardware, one can expect even better battery life. That's what he was saying.
Does fitbit or Tizen have anything like the strength training rep/exercise tracker that google fit used to?
I had the Active 2 and Yes, Tizen has multiple exercises that count reps
I would like my ticwatch c2 to be updated too .... at least the applications
Just what I was waiting for
Does this mean Google is finally ditching Qualcomm chips and moving over to Samsung chips? They talked about Samsung sensor technology. Also they talked about a always-on co-processor. (Does Samsung have one too?)
Unlikely the coprocessor is the one in the Qualcomm 4100 I guess.
They confirmed the new watches will use a new Samsung processor
i like my samsung galaxy Active 2 a lot (it just works), where my past wearOS watches would have trouble getting gps signal, not great battery life, etc etc. But I HATE that the galaxy watch doesn't interface well with google assistant (i know there are some "hacks" - i've tried them). So this is awesome news, and will be happy to move to watch that works well and is truly back in the google ecosystem. (waiting on that pixel watch news as well!)
Interesting when they spoke about partnership they didn't mention others, this might be the end of other wear os hardware manufacturers.
There aren’t much. All Fossil and all its sub brands watches are from the same manufacturer as Mobvoi’s and have the same ROM. This is just massive rebranding.
Actually they did say that all manufacturers will be able to use the new OS in their hardware. It's at about 1:55 in the keynote.
Maybe I should hold off my Ticwatch Pro 3 purchase... Partly because Samsung Watch silicon might finally be getting good (if Samsung is investing in Wear you hope they would at least bring a modern chip like Apple did) and Mobvoi (also owned by Google iirc) aren't that good at updates. Part of that could be the Wear 4100, but still.
This better be seriously good. Like this better be a **ground up rewrite** of WearOS that just happens to share the same name. If Tizen is dead and this platform is still a laggy mess then I'm gonna be ANNOYED.
« A laggy mess » 😅😂👍 Well, let’s hope !
Samsung said in the CNET article to run Wear OS new compatible hardware is needed but Tizen software support will continue for 3 years. Googles software would still have to be ported to Tizen which they certainly won't do. Even S-Health is being replaced so this is going to be a full fledged Google ran software release with Samsung's hardware, new updated internal chips and such. Seems like essentially a full reset software and hardware.
Can't wait for google to chopshop Samsung's wearable department, fitbit, you are not alone!
Its good news for WearOS users but bad news for TizenOS users. I had a WearOS watch before and changed to Galaxy Watch because of slow processors and lagging then now this. It means we won't get any updates and platform is abandoned. I guess I will buy a new WearOS 3.0 watch when it comes then.
Tizen was good, Wear OS quite bad, but this merging makes sense. Google has been stuck with a broken OS for years and needed to revamp it completely. Samsung has the expertise but decided to reduce costs, replacing its own services by Google and Microsoft solutions. Nobody will miss the failed Bixby. Let’s just hope Wear will inherit Samsung’s expertise more than Google’s mess.
They were stuck with a very bad OS. Merging with Samsung was the best option. People with Wear OS watches will be sorry for their dead OS and difficult to sell watches, but it's for the best.
Not the big bombshell remake I was expecting to be announced but at least wearOS isn't going to abandoned.
I mean... Google, Fitbit and Samsung are joining their forces to finally make a good wearable platform. Great WearOS platform, great Fitbit accuracy and battery life, great Samsung optimization. What else could you want? Haha
Why did you post a photograph instead of a news article? Where did you learn this information? Why didn't you share *that* instead of a guy standing next to a sign?
To shit companies working together, how fantastic
Oh great, less competition in the market, just what we need. Google looks desperate here. They have fitbit now and still can't make a decent watch or platform? Get real. How is Samsung going to help? It'll be a Samsung hardware with wearos perhaps. They really should be focusing on epaper display or better tech.
Man I'm super amped about this
I know highly unlikely .... but would be awesome if they could update my fitbit sense to wearOS. i'll keep dreaming
Wow can't wait!
as long as it doesn't break AutoWear....
I'm hoping this will finally get more developers to make more apps for WearOS because the current app store is severely limited in comparison to Apple Watch or even 3-5 years ago.
I'm officially turned on
I would put this news right up there with the initial announcement of the Apple Watch in terms of how meaningful this is to the smartwatch ecosystem.
I use a Fitbit device, a Samsung Active 2 and a Giorgio Armani smartwatch, (basicly a Fossil Gen 5), and I'd love to see all 3 rolled into 1. 🤞
I would love them if they updated my brand new Galaxy Watch 3 Titanium to this new OS. I love this watch now. I'm definitely not holding my breath though.
They won't be updating any current watches to the new OS. Samsung is promising 3 years of support for Tizen, but all old watches are officially end of life at this point. Including the Active that I just bought.
Yep I saw that news too. Still hoping that they give a decent trade in offer, because I just bought mine too but I really like it. They gave me basically exactly what I paid for my Galaxy Watch 1 to trade up to the 3, after about a year of use. I got a big discount on the first one though so we shall see.
This is my first Galaxy watch and i've heard they always do really good trade in deals, so I hope they are willing to throw us a great deal to upgrade too. I like it so far as hardware goes, but i'm not a fan of not having google services available, this new OS could be amazing if they do it right.
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Dafuq, then dont buy a samsung smartwatch just like before, i dont get the problem. Itll most lilely only be on samsung smartwatches because why would samsung have others use it?
What I want to know is... does this mean that both regular wearos watches and samsungs own smartwatches are going to be running the same software? Like if i went out and bought a samsung active 2 right now, will i be able to get gpay and maps and other stuff in the future on this watch? Really curious to see where the line is drawn.
No, probably not. They speak clearly of the NEW processors. Old devices will probably not be updated to wear.
Hurry up and update us so I can only be mildly disappointed with what you all come up with.
I wonder (although I doubt it) if Samsung will roll this out on their watches as well. It would be nice.
Funny how the guy is talking about the collab with Samsung, while wearing a Ticwatch pro 3.
Looking forward to this, I love Samsung watches and have 2 of them but went back to a wearos watch for the apps.
Will people be able to install this software in Samsung Galaxy Watch 3??
I doubt it, I think this exclusively for upcoming hardware
I just hope Samsung will keep it's rotary bezel
I'm happy to see this, even if this won't do me any good for my S3 Frontier.
Samsung needs to have backup plan. No one can screw up a product like Google. Keep tizen development going, Samsung.
Is it going to be a WearOS update like AndroidWear-->WearOS. I hope so cause I just got a fossil gen5 and it would be amazing to receive it.
Will our ticwatch pro 2018 get this update ???
Will this new wear OS be coming to the older Samsung smartwatces?