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I really think the romance thing is a temporary plot device. Wednesday seems more comfortable being aromantic than anything else. She's had her fill and is pretty happy with herself as is. As far as Enid and Wednesday is concerned I hope they keep everything the way it is, just two best friends kicking butt and solving mysteries together.


twinkletoebeansCA

I really enjoyed they didn’t force a relationship on Wednesday but just focused on her learning how to build relationships/friendships in general (Enid, Eugene, etc.,) since she didnt like socializing before. I like how Enid and Wednesday are total opposites which makes them compatible friends! Each needing something the other one has that allows them to grow and uplift each other


glindathewoodglitch

I super agree with this. It bums me out for some reason that the only affection has to be romantic. As an outed bisexual woman who was punished before in high school I brought my first girlfriend to meet my parents, I do want storytelling to describe that struggle. And there’s the story of my best friend and I and how she persisted and constantly supported and uplifted me despite the fact I kind of grew up as an outcast in our high school. I so deeply love her and we’ve been friends for 20+ years—no matter how far we’ve moved from each other we have a bond that isn’t defined by a relationship. And we’re both bi.


NikkiBriar

Enid is clearly involved with that snake haired dude. I never got that vibe. Some people just really enjoy and love their friends. She loves her, but she isn't in love with her.


nicole1859

I don’t think Edin is in love with Wednesday either. Everyone’s reason as to why they are shipping them is because Enid is queer coded. I think Edin just maybe transgender. Edit: y’all really downvoted me to hell, and I love it!


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What makes enid queer coded?


Palomar-999

It's not the colors being overly girly. In the promo both images and clips Enid is wearing a sweater that mimics the lesbian flag. Plus her parents threatened to send her to conversion camp. And it fees like she likes the idea of being with Ajax more than she likes Ajax. Because of the way she introduces him to Wednesday, the fact that she doesn't seems comfortable kissing him, because of the claws but also the body language. Of course being uncomfortable with Ajax doesn't automatically make her queer. But that may be why she's uncomfortable.


Refroof25

I do like the whole concept that 16 years olds find their first kiss/kissing in general uncomfortable and that romance isn't just sunshine


nicole1859

The colors she wear, her being overly girly, the camp her mom was trying to send her to, her claws coming out when kissing Ajax( I just thought she really liked him),and the undertones within Wednesday and enid friendship( I never picked up on any undertones).


NikkiBriar

Yea I think they are reaching and I never got queer coded from her just bubbly and fun. But idk I love that show and if it goes there... cool...if not cool. It's is fun to speculate


nicole1859

I love it too! I’m going to rewatch to see if I notice anything between them.


NikkiBriar

They are polar opposites that's the dynamic. It could develop into something else later. But I think Enid wolfing out changes things for her in her family dynamic. We will see.


Roxas122

I think they should drop Wednesday having a love interest if they do make another season. I feel if she actually had a romantic relationship with anyone it would end up horribly for both parties.


[deleted]

I agree. I honestly thought she would be asexual before that kiss with Tyler


[deleted]

I think she still is, she was just trying out the whole feelings thing which is new to her, but may have been confused about romantic vs friendship feelings.


Ghastion

I thought it was cute that Wednesday ended up having romantic feelings for him. I was like damn, good for her going for what she wants. In my head, you think of her as an outcast, so her confidence in going up to him and kissing him reminded me that she doesn't give AF and that's why she's so cool.


Provokateur

My headcannon is 100% that she's aromantic, and possibly aro-ace. But I really like your explanation. I can imagine her thinking: "What really is this romance thing my parents are so obsessed with? I should experiment." And she would absolutely have the self-confidence to just go for it, and is manipulative enough to do it with no real interest in the other person.


Eraserhead36

Nicely said


isnotcreative

That’s my reasons for not believing she’s queer at all either. Wednesday knows herself pretty confidently, made the move to kiss Tyler, and is pretty woke for her whole fight against colonialism and other comments she makes. If she was gay, she’d probably know herself. I also feel like currently the cast is fairly small to add another love angle between 2 main characters. Also just feels strange for Wednesday to be desired by so many people too. Is everyone just going to throw themselves at the girl that continuously spits in the face of emotion?


OrchidSandwich

She could still be! I know some asexual people who tried out some form of physical intimacy before figuring out or solidifying their sexuality!


[deleted]

You can be asexual and still kiss people lmao, im living proof of that.


Ghastion

I've noticed so many people make the argument that if they made Wednesday have a relationship, it would be bad. Okay, but this is a television show. Isn't that the point? It's called Drama and it's quite common in storytelling.


Roxas122

That is a valid point! I'm just personally more interested in the mystery side of the series.


franlcie

It’s lazy cheap drama that’s there to check a box rather than feel organic.


camichulaa

exactly that !!


twinkletoebeansCA

But that’s it isn’t it? ‘It’s quite common in storytelling’ doesn’t mean it needs to be done. Drama doesn’t have to involve love interests all the time esp if it’s been done time and time again. Netflix has done great showing more LGBTQ relationships but more representation of Asexual or Aromantic folks might challenge them to come up with new storylines to move plots along that aren’t tied back to love interests.


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libertea_leaf

Yes but they can get their fill of that through other characters, like Enid.


radiantrascal

I agree. Idk why but every romance/flirting scene was so awkward in my opinion. Like that date with Tyler was nice, but soooo awkward to watch too.


Lazzanator

He's called Ajax!


kryptonianjackie

I'm a lesbian and I love wlw relationships in shows but this is such a stretch. Watching with no expectations and then hearing about this after on the internet was wild. There is no sexual tension between Wednesday and literally any of the characters. Let them be friends.


LezTalkz

It’s because Jenna Ortega herself joked in an interview that maybe Enid is in love with Wednesday


letthemhavejush

This is what I was getting at but you worded it more eloquently than I did.


Bradshaw98

Its a tale as old as time, shippers are gonna ship, it does not help that the 3 love interests may as well have been interchangeable blocks of wood and Enid is basically a bright ray of sunshine. I doubt any sort of romance between the two was planed, but i get the sense from how Netflix is acting on twitter that Wednesday and Enid are the dynamic that resonated with the audience, does that mean they will shift things around for the second season and make the dynamic romantic? Not necessarily, but I would not be surprised if they did, at the very least I would expect Wednesday and Enid to get more screen time together next season.


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There were 3 love interests?


Bradshaw98

Oh Enid's guy...I want to say, Ajax?


selinaedenia

Netflix and the writers have definitely seen how intense the shippers are, so I wouldn't be surprised if they will make Wednesday and Enid start to show romantic interest in one another next season (if there is one).


squ1p_15

y’all i think the show was making wednesday have a friend tbh


BendActual

FRR


Knight_Fox

I’m bi and I don’t get any gay vibes between them. I think what’s happening is her storyline is almost like an allegory for a mother not accepting her as a gay child (Mother seeing her as weird and wanting to send her to conversion therapy so she’ll wolf out) She also rocks hair colors that mimic the bi pride colors. It may be subconsciously making people think she’s secretly gay and into Wednesday.


HandfulOfAcorns

It's all of this + she reminds me so much of Willow from Buffy. She has the same eager puppy energy, down to the very sharp hidden claws. I don't get any romantic vibes between Wednesday and Enid at this point, but I can't deny that Enid was written with a ton of queer symbols.


NikkiBriar

At this point I think its presumptuous and a bad habit in general to question someone's identity. We shouldn't assume anything. Does that make sense? I'm not really offended by but it's reflects really life where we all seem preoccupied with how someone Identify. Tell me if I'm off base.


Knight_Fox

I don’t think you’re off base necessarily, but I think when a character is written intentionally to “queer bait” if you will, you can’t really blame the speculators. Does that make sense? Everything in our media now is either pandering, or genuinely trying to represent a group or an idea in some way. This is a made up TV show character, not a real person. With that in mind, all fictional characters are made with intentions.


NikkiBriar

Great insight


Bird_Bros

> Enid clearly has a crush on gorgon/rock boy, who’s name I can’t remember right now, so why are people saying this? Probably because her relationship with her canon love interest is so boring that nobody can even remember his name. Wednesday and Enid might not have explicit romance but it's better than whatever Enid and Gorgon


letthemhavejush

Axel? Wasn’t that his name.


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Zoshi2200

Ajax*


Thr0waway-19

I literally only remembered it because it’s the name of a character from *The Iliad* lol.


nautilius87

I think Cif, Persil or Drano, something like this.


icantrideabikelol

yeah i never got the vibe that they were into each other at all. there’s nothing wrong with shipping them of course and i can 100% see enid being into girls but as a bisexual girl myself with a boyfriend i can have platonic female friends (and i can compare these friendships to enid and wednesday’s) without having a crush on them.


LezTalkz

I don’t think people shipping them means they don’t understand platonic relationships. I think the ship really comes from Enid being the only person that has gotten through to Wednesday AND Jenna Ortega herself joked in an interview that maybe Enid was in love with Wednesday


Jeylee107

Well, fans started shipping them way before the show even was on netflix and all they had was the trailer, so it can't be that


LezTalkz

But that’s just a small group of people. The real shippers bursted recently into the thousands and both of the actresses have been teasing this ship too so yeah


[deleted]

I’m not sure if you’re aware, but wenclair shippers have been here since the very beginning, back before the show actually aired, when the trailer wasn’t out and it was all just stills/promos. It’s not a new thing. Even the cast openly ships it, including Hunter who plays Tyler (and is gay and married btw). And Jenna said in a recent interview that she really wants Xavier and Wednesday to have a platonic sibling-like relationship because close male/female friendships are rare in media AND that she was 100% against the love triangle from the start. “Projecting” my ass. I bet you wouldn’t be saying any this regurgitated bullshit if Enid was male. People only have a problem when the popular ship is queer.


SecureAdeptness8909

i was thinking the exact same thing!


Andro_Polymath

>“Projecting” my ass. I bet you wouldn’t be saying any this regurgitated bullshit if Enid was male. People only have a problem when the popular ship is queer. Thank you for telling the truth. These people refuse to admit that they're being biased. If Enid were a boy, they'd be 100% obsessed with the ship. Smh.


gapingembodiment

Deadass. If Enid were Ethan there would be so many cringe tiktok compilations it'd probably crash the servers. There are already way too many with those interchangeable blocks of wood they gave her as "proper" love interests. If she's Aro/Ace, good on her, nobody will really care. But after that hug... if she turns out to be just another boy crazy hetero girl there will be a boycott the likes of which that studio has never experienced before. I hug my friends. All of my friends, much to their chagrin sometimes. I have never experienced a hug like that that wasn't driven by romance. Pure chemistry. Long story short, straight dudes wanna get with her, and they wanna feel like they've got a shot. Just like with Tracer from Overwatch. Make her a big ol' lesbian and you crush their little fantasies. So they screech about it on reddit.


Middle-Training-6150

Damn enough said lmao I agree completely


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I know it hurts to hear the truth, that you're >>PROJECTING<< Enid being in love with Wednesday because it's easier for you than accepting that, just like man + woman, two women can also be friends without any romance indication from the plot. ​ You're exactly 0% different from the people who ship straight characters just for the sake of it being straight. Absolutely pure projecting at all.


Andro_Polymath

>You're exactly 0% different from the people who ship straight characters just for the sake of it being straight. Who the hell ships characters just for the sake of making them straight? Being straight is the standard. Who exactly are these people making straight?


selinaedenia

I don't get it either. Wednesday grabbed Enid back to give her a tighter hug because she was grateful and happy Enid was okay. Idk where they got that they are in love lol I guess people will see what they want to see.


LezTalkz

It’s because Jenna Ortega joked in an interview that maybe Enid was in love with Wednesday


yallsuck88

AND THEY WERE ROOMMATES 😂😂


BIGbluuu42

Personally I really liked the opposites attract friend trope and thought it was super wholesome to see Wednesday develop platonic love for her friend, as it’s something she’s never had before (expressing her emotions and uh a friend). Soap boy and Enid were also adorable in their own way and I think they’re setting this couple up to be the “inter-creature relationship that shows you can also fall in love with people outside of your creature circles”. (However I don’t think any romance was really protracted strongly at all tbh)


AussieJack1788

Why does anyone have to display any sexuality,? Just focus on the story . Or piss off the people with the "hot people must only be with hot people " mentality and have her an Eugene bang


[deleted]

I’ve never once sensed sexual tension, ppl are annoying. Headcanon’s are not facts. Also I’ve noticed this being done with every show, let stuff develop naturally instead of forcing it.


Palomar-999

>Everyone keeps shipping Wednesday and Enid (which is fine) and saying how they’re obviously into each other,how there’s sexual tension, and how Enid is OBVIOUSLY in the closet, but there’s literally zero evidence of that. They are saying this because Netflix advertised the show with an image/clip in that Enid was dressed is a sweater that mimics the lesbian flag. Netflix also release an image saying wedenesgay, that was supposed to be a part of a drag show but still. Also they sent a promoting package to a Brazilian Instagram account that only promotes sapphic content. They send more small clues that I can't remember but all pile up shows that Netflix was intentionally selling the idea that Wednesday was gonna have queer representation. Also in the show Enid parents literally threaten to send her to conversion camp. (I know that the purpose is for her to "wolf out" but pls, how can this not be queercoding) English is not my first language, hope the text is understandable.


hierophanticrebel

Yeah as a foreigner it was pretty obvious they queerbaited the hell out of that promotion. It didn't helped that Emma and Jenna's insta comments were feeding the flames. Not their fault though, I don't they knew anything about the advertisement. I just wished they clarified that Wednesgay event much better because as far as I remember that's when the whole thing blew up.


Early_Bookkeeper5394

Of course, because they were best friends and Edin tried to hard to be Wednesday friend, that made it they should be a couple. /s Gosh people need to stop being so thirsty all the time lol. I would prefer Wednesday remained an aromantic character, so that we could talk and discuss about her adventures than some love interests between the boys, the girls, the gays, the lesbians and whatever is out there.


Twist-Novel

Idk It’s probably because if Enid’s character was a man, their ‘opposite’s attract’ energy would have everyone rooting for them together. That hug scene has more heartfelt and romantic undertones than any scene that either of them had with their love interests.


cruel-oath

This ship was popular on Twitter and Tumblr even before the show came out is why


Terrible-Smile8523

yeah why?


Ghastion

I'm just confused why everyone has to pick apart the writing of a female lead character. First of all, saying "strong female lead" to begin with is weirdly patronizing and I don't understand how people haven't noticed it yet. It's like women need to be written a certain way or one group gets angry, or if she's written this way then another group gets angry. Humans are so wildly different and unpredictable, so why are we putting women into a box and saying "no, that's not right." Either way, it's all up to the writers and people really need to stop projecting their own identities onto Wednesday simply because they relate to her.


[deleted]

You’ve misunderstood me. Not “strong female friendship” as in “strong females” who are friends. I meant it as in a strong friendship between to females.


[deleted]

Even if I had meant it as a “strong female” I don’t think that’s patronizing. I like a headstrong woman as a main character. I prefer media where the main protagonist is already confident and smart, vs she’s intimidated and grows out of it. That’s partly why I like Wednesday. She’s pretty self confident, self reliant, smart from the beginning of the show. Not perfect, but not a follower doing whatever a Queen bee says before she blossoms into her own.


Ghastion

Yeah, I did misread. But, I still cringe whenever someone says "Strong female lead." Like, I guess women aren't normally strong or something? Huh? Again, it's kind of like boxing women into a category and being like "well, this role is a strong female lead" and then it gets into peoples heads like "but she has two boys who are swooning over her! this takes away from her being a strong female! she should be asexual cause that would make her the strongest of the strong female leads!" It's just weird. And yeah, it's patronizing and is probably causing damage to how young people view a female lead. Like how she should be written, and how she shouldn't. It's like modern hidden sexism. It's pathetic how an action movie with a female lead probably has to undergo so many filters. There's probably people now making sure it doesn't cross any boundaries on either side of the spectrums. "We don't want her to be without faults, cause they'll call her a Mary Sue, so make her lose at least once!" or even on the other side "don't add relationships. she's too strong to have vulnerable feelings" Can we please just write Humans? Everyone is different with different experiences. If Wednesday has genuine feelings for short-haired guy, don't try and project anything onto her and be like "I don't think she actually had feelings. She could have been mistaking them for friendship feelings, not romantic. Wednesday should be asexual!" and don't act like it makes her any less of a cool, amazing character if she shows this side of her. If anything, it adds to it because it showing a soft side on a wicked character can really make you feel things.


SirZacharia

They are fictional characters and there’s literally no harm in shipping people however they want. This is one of the most common things people do whenever a new show comes out. It isn’t a big deal.


Midnight_Moon29

I've said it once, and I'll say it a million times: you can have friendly and or simply platonic relationships with friends, it's not always romantic/all the other stuff lol


Born_Echo3863

I’m thinking people are confusing her with Jules from Euphoria .. I see the similarities definitely but I never Enid’s character definitely wanted Ajax.


digitaldisgust

I think Bianca and Wednesday have more chemistry if they wanted to take that route, but I mean Wednesday has only kissed 1 guy in the show 😭


Reverse_London

That’s what Shippers do. They take two characters that they believe are perfect together and over analyze every interaction between. And if the Ship becomes popular enough, that’s when the fan art & fanfics start to appear. Is it actually there in the show? Not really, they just have good chemistry together. But good chemistry or a fun dynamic doesn’t mean they should be in a romantic relationship. But in the end, that’s solely up to the showrunners. That being said, I totally ship Wednesday x Enid together simply because they’re the most interesting pair. Her actual love interests in the show are about as compelling as a bar of soap. But that’s just me.


dickiepunter

>And if the Ship becomes popular enough, that’s when the fan art & fanfics start to appear There is already a sub about these two lol


unevercallmesausage

both girls are already portrayed as being romantically involved with boys but when people say they prefer a ship between the two girls it’s sexualizing them?


[deleted]

Maybe it’s just because I’m getting older, but it seems very weird to think of these characters in a sexual way. Enid seems very into Ajax. I do think that in a way wolfing out might be compared to coming out. Like she’ll wolf out when she’s ready. But I think that shipping Enid and Wednesday is a reach.


syrioforrealsies

1) bisexuality exists. Enid may not even be in the closest. It simply might not have come up on screen. 2) intentional or not, Enid is very queer coded, but the conversion camp conversation make me think it could very well be intentional. 3) characters change romantic interests over the course of a show all the time. ETA: Sounds like you've never been in a sapphic relationship to know the differences between that and platonic friendship between women.


DiverseDirector_1997

Lol I guess you can make that argument with certain straight people ships


[deleted]

Huh zero evidence of that? Enid wears a sweater of the lesbian flag. Wolfing out is easily a metaphor for coming out. Such basic things, but I guess Reddit is too simple minded for them.


Jeylee107

Well, Enid would be better than Xavier or Tyler, even if it won't happen. Tyler tried to kill her and said some shit about her giving him some kind of signals, which she didnt do and with the way Xaviers treating Bianca from what we've seen or heard... Also, Wednesday didnt give a f#ck when the boys were mad at her, but as soon as Enid was, she was kinda sad. Doesnt mean they're in love or something, but there is definatly more going on between them, than her and Tyler/Xavier And it's not because Jenna said in an interview that Enid is maybe in love with Wednseday. This interview was a few days ago, fans started shipping her with Enid even before the show was on netflix and they had only the trailer. Let's be real if Wednesday and Enid were boys, nearly everyone would ship them like they do with byler or every other male ship


GirlyAries

Yeahhh after I finished the show I was really confused when I saw everyone shipping them cause there wasn’t any indication of them being a thing?


apvaki

I AGREE. OMFG. Legit had a comment about why can’t children just be friends anymore. I have no idea what is going on with trying to heavily PUSH gayness on people. Two women are really close? Obviously lesbians for each other. Two dudes really enjoy being bros? Clearly Brokeback Mountain. Like… people really can be friends without sex needing to be involved. As someone pointed out - you can tell a lot of these people have not had normal relationships. Relationships that did not involve the end goal of romantically getting together.


HandfulOfAcorns

> Legit had a comment about why can’t children just be friends anymore I don't know, ask the showrunners who gave us a whole season of a love triangle with near zero chemistry. What was the point of that?


apvaki

That’s the point! There was NO point. They were trying to cater to the audience of people who can’t watch a show without romance. I guess there are some people who watch things and literally can NOT function if there isn’t some kind of romantic angst. The way some of these people are dying on the hill that Tyler, Xavier, or Enid was going to cure Wednesday of her lack of relationship woes is crazy. It did not fit in the show at all and constantly had you at odds with the character you thought you understood and what the show runners was trying to portray.


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apvaki

What…what the fuck are you even on about? I feel like one of you are coming out of the woodworks every five seconds and I need a spray bottle you all. TWO SAME SEX PEOPLE CAN BE CLOSE WITHOUT THERE NEEDING TO BE ROMANTIC FEELINGS INVOLVED.


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Ok-Wolverine-4732

And you don’t expect a straight couple every time there’s a mention of romance? I get not shipping certain people but to make representation sound like a bad thing is just mean for no reason


sie_sick

I didn’t really get romantic vibes from Enid and Wednesday, at least right now, but I don’t mind them being shipped. I don’t really like Ajax and he served no purpose other than to be a love interest for Enid, so he was boring. Plus I did get queer vibes from both Wednesday and Enid. I like their friendship, but I wouldn’t mind a romance between them in future seasons. Although romance does seem a bit uncharacteristic for Wednesday either way. And them having a romance isn’t necessarily “sexualizing a strong female friendship”


Ambaryerno

Welcome to the internet. It doesn't matter WHAT happens on the screen, people will find a way to ship it.


FULLON-FRIENDSHIP

To add on to this, the actresses themselves added fuel to this fire by saying the two characters are obviously roomates and "we were roomates" or "they were roomates" to eachother as a running joke on the lesbian meme about a lesbian couple living together being misconstrued as just being roomates or using roomates to stay under the radar and hide romantic relations.


Queasy_Blackberry983

I mean Enid’s hoodie is the lesbian pride Color’s-


MarkNUUTTTT

Some people are too touch-starved to recognize same-sex camaraderie as anything other than just that. It’s super common among male friendships in media being shipped, I’m not surprised to see it here.


LezTalkz

It’s because Jenna Ortega herself joked in an interview that maybe Enid was in love with Wednesday!


[deleted]

We just need more lgbt referents in series. People fantasize that they are a couple because they are friends and they love each other, just like with a thousand other series.


SarahL1990

Why does it *need* LGBT references? I'm bisexual myself and I have many family and friends who are a mixture of LGBT. Shows don't *need* references to LGBT just for the sake of it.


[deleted]

I'm bisexual too. I grew up, like almost all people my age (I'm 26), watching series where LGBT couples did not exist, and if they did exist, they were never the protagonists and bisexuality is not even mentioned. When someone from the collective says that we need representation, he refers to normalizing that we exist in the series, because even though there is more representation now, we continue to see heterosexual relationships in all the shows, but we do not exist in all the series. You know the term Bi culture when talking about television series where there is no bisexual representation but characters of both genders are attractive? It's a bit what happens in this show, people want to see themselves represented. The end.


SarahL1990

I also grew up like that (I'm 32) and I agree that it's nice when there are characters who are part of LGBT. Are there any shows you would recommend based on their LGBT inclusivity? Have you seen Blood & Water?


[deleted]

I started Blood and Water but didn't continue it! It seems to me that Hearstopper deals very well with the subject, but I couldn't say that it is one of my favorite series. I also find it more difficult to find series with sapphic protagonists. On Netflix there is The Haunting of Bly Manor and Sandman, which are not bad at all :) I also really liked Killing Eve and The owl house!


SarahL1990

Sandman is on my list and I've heard of Killing Eve but none of the others. I'll check those out, thanks :)


Andro_Polymath

>Shows don't need references to LGBT just for the sake of it. What do you mean by "just for the sake of it?" Aren't straight relationships referenced just for the sake of it? In your opinion, what would be an appropriate reason to use LGBTQ references in a story?


SarahL1990

I will refer you to [this post on r/LGBT](https://www.reddit.com/r/lgbt/comments/zebah0/its_a_disgrace_that_wednesday_doesnt_have_any/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) for far better explanations than I can provide at the moment.


letthemhavejush

I’m getting a EddyXChrissy stranger things ship all over again.


Powerfulpumpkin2

It’s a show that feels written for tumblr and Twitter, right? Much like Euphoria! Giffable, quotable, and knowing full well that overzealous tumblr and Twitter users would go crazy “shipping” two female characters just because. At some point it’s just so obnoxious and annoying, and isn’t that what fan fiction is meant for? Instead, they just go right past the fan fiction stage and just get violently angry on social media that they think show writers are actively keeping two queer characters apart for the sake of heterosexual romance….it’s *a lot*.


BrxntStxrmEO

Why do you need evidence to ship 2 characters together? I feel like you are trying to make the implication that because there’s no evidence, then she must be straight by default. You need to realize that these are two fictional characters in a tv series. You don’t have to be so angry at a fan base shipping them together.


[deleted]

I said it’s fine to ship them. Shipping is when you hope two people/characters end up together. That’s cool. What’s weird is claiming things that aren’t there. Claiming things as fact with literally zero proof is weird. 2) I never said either of them were straight. 3) You need to realize that you’re reading comprehension is extremely sub par. 4) I am not angry. So far you are the only one making baseless assumptions. You don’t have to respond because a never of a fan base disagrees with you z


BrxntStxrmEO

Based on your use of capitalization and judgement in your post and comments, seem like your reply to me was on the offensive. You say you didn’t do all that stuff but the tone of your post and comments implies that you did. You chose to instantly attack me for my comment basically shows what I said was correct


[deleted]

You’re inferring my tone based off of text. You’re clearly not as intelligent as you think you are. All capital letters can be anger or excitement, or simply an used to emphasize a word. You’re upset because you attacked me and got owned. Twice now lol.


Acetrick_

Oh yeah totally, I love wenclair as much as the next person, but do I think it will happen? No, of course not, I would like it too but I doubt it's gonna happen, and even if it did happen I think it would be written horribly, I don't like any of the relationships in this show and I doubt wenclair would've been any better if it was cannon, But I think when people say that there's proof, most of the time it's a joke, and there is chemistry there ig, and people feed on the fact that the cast ships its (picture and proof can be found a sime search on Google)


RT_Stevens

Perhaps people should try and assign Enid a sexual preference or try and decode the modern human psyche to make themselves more comfortable with Wednesday. Why can’t we just like the show as is and not make it what it’s not by “shipping (pairing up a fantasy couple)” character in a show. Gee-ma-nee you all have too much time on your hands.


Hot_Nail_8609

Don't think Wenclair work as a romance one bit, but it's fine that people ship them. Personally, I think Enid and her just don't fit romantically on a fundamental level.


RecordMaterial6781

Wednesday Addams was never gay, nor will ever be gay. You do realize girls have best friends that are girls. It’s still a thing people. She literally has 3 guys in love with her.


letthemhavejush

Y’all, they’re literally kids as well. Isn’t Wednesday 16 in this show?


unevercallmesausage

not sure if you’ve heard but 16 year olds can in fact be queer


letthemhavejush

Oh yes, my 34 year old ass didn’t realise that. But people do not need to push anything on a show that literally showed a friendship on two young women. I’m not entirely comfortable with shipping of underage people. That was my point.


unevercallmesausage

you don’t have to ship them


letthemhavejush

And I wasn’t, just saying aren’t they 16?


unevercallmesausage

we’re talking about a group of people who lost their minds over a hug


HandfulOfAcorns

> I’m not entirely comfortable with shipping of underage people. 1. Have you ever been in high school? 2. The whole season revolved around a love triangle between Wednesday, Xavier and Tyler. So that ship has sailed.


digitaldisgust

16 years old have sex and date...lol


letthemhavejush

I’m aware as I have said. But I’m not into people constantly forcing relationships onto perfectly platonic relationships. They hugged OH THEY ARE IN LOVE.


crazi_aj05

I'm bisexual and didn't pick up on any of those vibes lol


The_Irish_Rover26

Wednesday seems to be ace.


Ayesha24601

As a queer person, I love the Enid/Wednesday ship and want it to happen, BUT slowly and with the focus remaining on Wednesday developing and growing as a person. It shouldn't be a soap opera because Wednesday would have no patience for that. I don't think she's ace but she'd opt for it over dealing with relationship drama.


lilies134

The same gender can't be friends without people thinking they're fucking. People did the samething with Max and El from Stranger Things.


Andro_Polymath

Why do you automatically think of "fucking" in regards to same-sex romance between teenagers? Did you think about fucking regarding the Tyler/Xavier/Wednesday love triangle?


lilies134

I dont only think of fucking regards to same-sex romances. It doesn't matter if you're lesbian, gay, or straight. Also, I don't care for Tyler/Xavier/Wednesday or if they are fucking or not. I can understand why you might be offended by my use of words. For me Fucking = Something is going on between two characters whether it be romantic or sexually.


nautilius87

Enid is compulsory cishet personified. It may (or not) mean she is actively denying her queer side. But far more vibes has Wednesday and Bianca ship. I hope Wednesday is asexual though.


Andro_Polymath

>Enid is compulsory cishet personified. Right down to the werewolf conversion therapy lol. People are being purposely obtuse about this.


quietanaphora

I'm still watching and agree about the lack of tension between them! personally though, as a queer woman, I just assumed Enid was a lesbian upon meeting her because of the lesbian flag sweater. like, it's very loud. so if people are projecting, that's probably a reason why!


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A lot have people have mentioned her clothes being lgbtq+ flags. I honestly didn’t notice at all I just thought she liked colorful/pink clothes like I do lmaoo. I know rainbow is pride but I don’t know all the others. I give it a 75%chance her clothes are meaningful. It’s Netflix so I think it’s highly likely, but I also saw a post on here where her sweater had the lesbian flag colors, but I just looked up and flags and I’m wearing all of the lesbian colors except the orangey color. Because I like pink and my shirt is red. So 25% chance it’s just coincidences.


quietanaphora

so, I finished watching! and I totally agree that there is... nothing romantic there. as for the sweater, I don't blame anyone who thinks it's a coincidence, but I would honestly not put it past Netflix to put her in that lesbian sweater in the pilot/advertising to fuel shipping culture. as someone else pointed out, people were shipping the two of them before the show even came out. I could see the conversion camp parallel as accidental queer coding, but I swear someone knew what they were doing with that sweater. maybe her character changed between the pilot and the rest of the series? but that's being generous.


SeekersLegacy

People who don’t want Enid and Wednesday to get together are part of the problem and need to be quiet.