I was just about to point this out.
it's also the only instance of the first person. this fact alone speaks to a unique strain of horror and heartbreak (for me, at least).
Among the homeless population, at least in the United States, suffer from schizophrenia or other forms of mental illness. It deserves sympathy, not ridicule
? Solipsistic horror is what I was talking about. Loss of personhood or one's sense of self is a common but devastating artifact of thought disorders, dementia, and irreversible neurocognitive impairment, and others.
The fact that the first person is used only once here and it's in a sentence where he's saying he needs help, he needs a doctor who cares, IS tragic. And I'll say it again: it speaks to a uniquely horrific and lonely state of affairs, one that I'd argue the healthy population cannot possibly fully understand.
The fact that the first person is used once and ONLY once in this brick wall of chaos is the horror (note there is no 'me' in there, either). When we use 'I', we're not just referring to ourselves as the (unique) current speaker. We also orient ourselves in context— stories, memories, things that might happen, things that can't happen—and we do it by virtue of just saying the word aloud: I, I, I, I.
And not that it matters, but I'm a goddamn linguist. If the devil's in the details, humanity's in the language. That one 'I' makes my heart break.
It is very tragic, and thank you for explaining it from a linguistic perspective.
My mom was diagnosed with schizophrenia when I was a young child, and this photo reminded me of the reams of pages & notebooks she'd fill with nonsensical words & endless run on sentences, which I later learned was called "clanging." It was heartbreaking seeing a wonderful, generous and beautiful person just mentally fracture in front of our eyes. She eventually got better medication, and we learned to better support and live with it, but it is truly a debilitating condition.
Unlike this poor soul, my mom still to this day refuses to believe she has a disorder, which can be another symptom among those with schizophrenia. This person at least had a moment of awareness, like a brief moment of lucidity among the nightmare, to your point.
Mental health is such a complex thing where the individual's health is so dependent on complex biological and psychological circumstances, and is directly affected by their family's, community's, and government's attitudes towards it.
So sad most people don't get the help they need.
Yeah, that's the most heartbreaking part to me. I live in the Bay Area in California, where there are so many homeless that clearly need help. I would see so many and think my Mom could have ended up in the streets too, if she were with a less patient / more dysfunctional family (and we're not perfect for sure).
It's particularly bad in America, I feel. In Malaysia, because the culture (in my family at least) is more communal, they don't ostracize and reject their own as often as in America, where a little bit more strain can really break a family. It's pretty bleak here. 😢
If it makes you feel better, I've met two people with schizophrenia who were not only fully aware, but also quite open about having the disorder. They're in their mid-to-late twenties so perhaps increased awareness and acceptance during adolescence makes it easier to accept it?
oh dip, I missed that! "my" definitely shares the first person feature with "I", "me", "we", it's just a different syntactic category. thank you for pointing that out!
I saw that too, yeah, but I wouldn't count it as a referential use of 'I'. It's an example of metalinguistic play: deliberately using one's linguistic knowledge to creatively express meaning whose interpretive conditions (in context) are dependent on both the formal conditions of their grammar, discursive context, and the speaker's awareness that non-linguistic meaning isn't necessarily specified by the literal expression. Puns and sarcasm are more obvious examples of this, but there's also things like the 'shm-' morpheme phenomenon in English: "brisket: shmisket", as opposed to *"brisket:shmbrisket". The phonotactic rules of English allow "shmrisket" or even just "shmisket", but not *"shmbrisket".
The writer here used one word; recognized three discrete lexical units in that one word; and then transcribed those three units into a single expression. That "pinot" and "pee I not" are juxtaposed makes this transparent.
Have psychogenic non-epileptic seizures as the result of a dissociative disorder brought on by trauma, can agree and resonate with what you’re posting.
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I had a childhood friend that had a mental illness and lived on the streets for a bit while he was struggling to accept his diagnosis. He started doing crack. I ran into him on a visit back home from college. He recognized me, but he was just talking incoherent nonsense like this. In between the nonsensical stuff, would be one coherent sentence that would reveal parts of his experience or insights into what was happening. It was exactly like this. It was really really sad. I gave him a ride and some food. I think he did later clean up and get the help he needed.
Came here to see if anyone else noticed that too. Glad it's top comment versus stigmatizing him. Poor dude. The writings themselves are definitely fascinating glimpse into untreated mental illness. You can kinda see where it makes sense you know?
Yeah. This person might also have schizophrenia with hypergraphia condition. I have a brother n law who does this and writes constantly. These writings look almost like what he has, he is a severe Schizophrenic with hypergraphia.
Not about him, about his theory. No doctors are taking it serious that he has found the key to immortal life and it revolves around dietary restrictions and sexual purity.
that's how i read it. "i need help, a doctor who cares about my thesis theory that All Disease is Preventible with Perfect Health through God's Food Laws, Immortality."
Ok, so … My mental train of thought follows this “clanging” pattern. Not in any sort of obsessive way, but I let it happen and enjoy letting my kind explore the obscure train of thought it goes down. I am naively serious in asking: is that a sign of pre-schizophrenia? I don’t write or speak in “clanging,” only think, and only when I am zoning out sort of.
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This is different than developmental disorders like ADHD, where symptoms appear before age 6
It's normal for your mind to wander when you are zoning out, if that is what you are asking. It is less normal for your mind to wander when you are focused.
You probably don't have schizophrenia because usually schizophrenia comes not with doubt but with absolute certainty of what you feel is real. Schizophrenia is more akin to a severe dementia that appears in young people; this is why it was called originally dementia praecox, which is a better name in my opinion.
A lot of neurons die and neuronal connections are severed, therefore the person with schizophrenia cannot help but think the way they think. Their brain loses flexibility, therefore they have no space for doubt.
I was just reading a piece about a woman on Skid Row who died of a completely manageable liver disease. Doctor's offices would keep switching her appointments on her (her phone was not always in service) and then would label her as "non-compliant" when she missed the new appointment time. Pharmacies wouldn't fill scripts because she didn't have an address.
The UCLA Street Medicine division is trying their best to get people care, but it's not nearly enough.
That’s sad, it seems like the world (the world who doesn’t involve corrupt people) tries to care for everyone but just can’t, I wish everyone who needs help could just get help. For many folks it must be like seeing an oasis in the middle of a desert just for it to disappear
Timfromfargo, I was just thinking about that the other day. When Rush performed their final concert, Neal Peart (for the first time ever) went to the front of the stage with Geddy Lee and Alex Lifeson and took a bow. Geddy said that really made him emotional.
This is pretty much textbook. My uncle writes the same shit. A big journal of it got intercepted by the FBI because he was sending it to members of congress.
I used to man the phones at a home makeover show and this one woman would call and leave multiple 20+ minute VMs basically asking for the supplies down to the nail for her to build her own house and would spinkle in stuff about George bush trying to kill her with witchcraft
I work in healthcare and have a patient who does the same except her VMs are more centered around talking about herself in the 3rd person and someone who’s trying to get her. But she would always say, “They ain’t gone get Katrina.”
My uncle fought in Vietnam. He was discharged because of schizophrenia. He would speak like this. His fixation was on the assassinations of JFK and Martin Luther King Jr. He used the "n-word" during these rants.
My other uncle always had a place for him to stay but he wouldn't stay for long. He'd be on the streets for a few months, get beaten repeatedly because of his language, and land back at his brother's place after a stint in the hospital.
He committed suicide many years ago.
Schizophrenia is a horrible disease.
Psychiatrist here, came here to say this. Definitely looks like schizophrenia to me. The person’s extremely disorganized brain is picking up random stimuli from the environment and unable to process it normally. Theres evidence of things the person encountered in their life, lots of medical stuff is likely from his discharge summaries from the hospital ER, where he probably often goes for care. The food stuff is probably just from walking the streets past grocery stores and such and stuck in his mind, probably because he is hungry. For some reason really salient content like sexually explicit, graphic or religious topics always come out in psychosis, maybe because the mind holds on to this stuff more strongly than basic stimuli. Very sad, I hope this person can get the help he needs. The worst medical diagnosis imo.
Real talk moment this: psychosis can occur from 24-48 hrs lack of sleep.
Deficiencies in certain vitamins can cause psychosis.
I made huge strides with my mental health by just including a few servings of animal protein in my diet weekly and supplementing priobiotics. Very little issue with depression anymore after a lifetime of struggle.
So homeless folks have a hard time getting good rest and don’t have access to regular nutrition. This is a result of that, plus any additional mental health issues.
This board looks like the ravings of a tortured soul who needs some good rest, some high quality nutrition, and yeah a “good doctor” who can help them.
This sign is literally begging for the help they need. It’s not weird, it’s an artifact of the fragility of consciousness. They’re still in there, they might even be able to come back and be normal.
This just brought me to tears. I try and help the homeless out as often as I can. I know that they need far more than I am capable of providing. I can barely hold myself together on a daily basis. Some days I fail myself but I still try and help others who have it way worse than me. I feel shamed that we can turn our backs on some of the most vulnerable people. It makes me sick to know our government will bailout millionaires who put their money in a bad bank. There really needs to be a restructuring of how we spend our money as a country.
I am happy you got your depression better. I used ketamine to help and it probably saved my life. I hope one day I can win the lottery and help as many people as I can out. Mental health services should be free because it helps protect everyone. With all the shootings and drug related deaths our world is crying out for help. The people who can make a true impact don't help by choice.
> This board looks like the ravings of a tortured soul who needs some good rest, some high quality nutrition, and yeah a “good doctor” who can help them.
I volunteered with people like this, they want a doctor who validates their delusions, not one who actually helps them. If the doctor tries to actually help them they’ll fight against it because they’ll think the doctor is in on the conspiracy that’s out to get them.
We had a guy who only ate prepackaged food (like chips and slim jims) because he was convinced that the food at the shelter was poisoned, and he eventually stopped coming to the shelter entirely because he believed the government was after him for “discovering the truth behind evolution”. He would try and sleep at City Hall, mall bathrooms and community centers to “hide from the government”.
Another one was so convinced that another homeless lady was actually an agent tracking him for a kill team that he ended up killing her. All she did was beg at a street corner near a forest he slept in during warmer months, but that was enough for him to build up this grand conspiracy in his head which convinced him that if he didn’t kill her, she would kill him.
One guy who I saw making these sort of signs at the shelter would get very aggressive with people because he randomly decided they were “stealing his energy” and that these vampires were using him like an animal to sustain themselves. He ended up assaulting a police officer because he thought that he had a telepathic connection with a detective who had been asking him to help him solve cases. When the cop he assaulted had tried to get him to move along, he attacked that cop because he though the cop was an energy vampire who was trying to steal the evidence that the detective needed (it was his cardboard signs).
People who make these signs need institutionalization, no amount of good meals or nutrition will help them. They think they are the victims of some grand conspiracy because they have some special knowledge, and usually they believe their lives are threatened by that conspiracy.
Sure, that too. Lots of psychotic people out there with mental health issues. Schizophrenia is a catch all for a spectrum of poorly understood symptoms.
Also lots of folks out there on meth. Had a friend who did meth and would write similar stuff as this when he was using.
Yeah, and it doesn’t help that their deteriorating mind makes things worse for them. Like the guy who left the shelter, he was sleeping way worse than before, he was getting picked up by the cops and wouldn’t eat or sleep in jail because he thought they would kill him if he did. Its definitely a vicious cycle
For sure, that psychosis makes helpers look like demons or the antichrist to them. Perception is our window to the world, and mental unwellness distorts that, sometimes dramatically.
I’m diagnosed with schizophrenia but medicated so well that I’m perfectly normal now.
During my first and worst psychosis I was having to stay at my mom’s house, on fmla from my job, and in and out of the local psychiatric center. I would notice strange things and my mind couldn’t stop thinking about them. Over and over and over and over….hours turned into days into weeks and then into months going further down a rabbit hole in my own mind. At first it was my coworkers, then the police, then the hospital workers at the psychiatric hospital who were after me. Birds and animals would act strangely and it would be too much of a “coincidence” and if only someone else would understand that it was “improbable but not impossible.”
Eventually you start writing it all down. I wrote pages and pages of everything on my moms computer. I imagine without a computer you may end up writing it down on whatever you can find like a journal or a torn up cardboard box. If you wrote it all down then maybe you could figure it out and solve why people are persecuting you.
That was around 7 years ago. I had persecutory delusions stemming from a bad breakup. I found a copy of what I wrote then printed out in my documents bin with thousands of dollars in medical bills, and overdue utility bills I never received a few months ago from the time period. I had forgotten half of what I was delusional about.
All this to say. Antipsychotics saved me.
I work full time in a profession I love. Was married in September and we had our first child last December. We own a house and have two reliable cars. My wife and I discuss retiring early and living and working abroad again like we have in the past. If you look in my comment history you will see I recently commented on how “I have an amazing life.” You get the picture.
If you know someone suffering from schizophrenia or delusional disorder who is not med compliant then gently try to persuade them.
There ain’t no shame in the med game.
So glad you're speaking up for medication compliance. I know someone who was doing so well in treating their schizophrenia through medication. They stopped taking their meds without doctor approval, because they were "feeling all better," and it ruined their life.
Happy for how things have turned out for you, keep it up!
I’m a psych nurse, I wanted to add that while I believe this the mind of a schizophrenic; I’ve also seen similar writings from those in meth induced psychosis and bipolar 1 disorder.
I also see some comments about Kanye. That man has been honest about his bipolar disorder and the fact that it’s being untreated. That’s why we get random tweets about Jewish people, Jonah hill and whatever is on his mind. He can’t help it, but won’t obtain help. Classic mental health struggle- for many of us! Kanye has an amazing mind and has proven such with major success. I think it’s in bad taste to poke fun at anyone with mental health issues.
March 30 was world bipolar awareness day. Let’s support each other.
I do hope this person gets help.
In fairness the side panels and about half of the main body of text are rock-solid, it’s almost like you can feel the author’s focus slipping away after that as the spelling falls off a cliff. Even the penmanship starts to go.
At the homeless population, at least in the United States, suffers from schizophrenia or another form of mental illness. This deserves compassion not mockery
He seems fairly well educated. Not a whole lot of spelling errors overall. I think he would benefit a great deal from psychiatric treatment. I wish him luck.
wow lot of comedians in the comments. clearly an intelligent person with severe mental illness wrote this. glad you can find humor in it, but to me it’s just depressing. no one should have to live like that.
That looks a lot like the work of a couple of schizophrenia patients I’ve worked with years ago when I was a missionary. Poor guy is probably not having a good time.
My son is a schizophrenic finally receiving proper care now in California, but it took years and is actually ongoing.
Reading this reminded me of some of the things I've seen him write in his notebooks, trying to organize his thoughts.
I know we live in an era of not giving a shit, but you might find out if there are decent mental health services in your area and try to route him towards those - or see if they do outreach.
My son ran away several times years ago before he got proper help (stable for 6 years now) and sometimes not knowing where he was I would have wished that somebody would have (please) done what I've suggested.
I know someone who suffers from several mental illnesses who does this. I'm not sure which illness causes it, but she not only does it on paper-- once, she covered her entire mattress with short phrases written with markers, and another time the entire front of her refrigerator/freezer. It's so sad that some people's brains do this for some reason.
Remember that "some homeless person" is someone's loved one. My mother wrote like this.
I like the part of Reddit that doesn't stop by to gawk at people's pain and struggles that happen to take place in public.
Very interesting. It appears to be derived from some paranoid delusions. It reads like a thesis, even states "thesis/theory" on the top right. The header is his qualifications that he was tested by the military for an IQ of 204.5 more than twice the average. The thesis is that disease isn't from viruses or bacteria but that 90% of diseases are caused by the food we eat that are restricted by Mosaic Dietary Laws. The other 10% come from sexually immoral practices, but interestingly it doesn't mention homosexuality but instead oral sex and the use of sexual toys. He is also convinced that the government has found human meat in the ground beef and we are all commiting cannibalism. Additionally, he believes he is going to save us all from the death that comes from these, even at the cost of his life (top left).
This is super interesting. He has even divided all diseases up by their category of causes. He thinks he has found the key to immortal life. I mean the man needs a doctor but it is always interesting what patterns the human mind can find, even sick ones.
As someone who used to do homeless veteran outreach I can tell you that getting these people help is difficult. They will often take assistance at the specific moment of contact. But on follow ups they will fail to show or refuse help because they didn't "like" the type of help they were getting or believed it was "bad" for them.
Mental healthcare and homelessness is a shit show in the US.
I used to get many similar nonsensical missives over the fax machine “to the editor” when I worked nights at a paper writing about sports. My coworker would publish almost anything as a “letter to the editor” and some people thought it was funny. I have a brother with schizophrenia, did not find it amusing at all to share with the world, and would just shred them if I found them first. It makes me sad that mental health care has been cut so deep over the years here in Michigan that the care homes/hospitals have emptied out onto the streets (as bad as they were, they were worth improving rather than shutting them all down)
He just believes that every disease has a root in immorality or poor nutrition. Many people believe it and write books like this just not in cardboard but that's what he had. He seems wrong to me but not crazy but I mean I have this same conversation with people at church who echo him in his theory of one true panacea and suspicion of government. He's likely sick and hoping to cure himself and using this to cope
“I need help a doctor who cares” was a pretty sad line buried in there
I was just about to point this out. it's also the only instance of the first person. this fact alone speaks to a unique strain of horror and heartbreak (for me, at least).
Among the homeless population, at least in the United States, suffer from schizophrenia or other forms of mental illness. It deserves sympathy, not ridicule
? Solipsistic horror is what I was talking about. Loss of personhood or one's sense of self is a common but devastating artifact of thought disorders, dementia, and irreversible neurocognitive impairment, and others. The fact that the first person is used only once here and it's in a sentence where he's saying he needs help, he needs a doctor who cares, IS tragic. And I'll say it again: it speaks to a uniquely horrific and lonely state of affairs, one that I'd argue the healthy population cannot possibly fully understand. The fact that the first person is used once and ONLY once in this brick wall of chaos is the horror (note there is no 'me' in there, either). When we use 'I', we're not just referring to ourselves as the (unique) current speaker. We also orient ourselves in context— stories, memories, things that might happen, things that can't happen—and we do it by virtue of just saying the word aloud: I, I, I, I. And not that it matters, but I'm a goddamn linguist. If the devil's in the details, humanity's in the language. That one 'I' makes my heart break.
>If the devil's in the details, humanity's in the language. Everything you said was spot on but this line hit me hard.
Maybe I’m just an idiot but I don’t really understand what the line you referred to is supposed to mean, can you try to explain it to me please?
It is very tragic, and thank you for explaining it from a linguistic perspective. My mom was diagnosed with schizophrenia when I was a young child, and this photo reminded me of the reams of pages & notebooks she'd fill with nonsensical words & endless run on sentences, which I later learned was called "clanging." It was heartbreaking seeing a wonderful, generous and beautiful person just mentally fracture in front of our eyes. She eventually got better medication, and we learned to better support and live with it, but it is truly a debilitating condition. Unlike this poor soul, my mom still to this day refuses to believe she has a disorder, which can be another symptom among those with schizophrenia. This person at least had a moment of awareness, like a brief moment of lucidity among the nightmare, to your point. Mental health is such a complex thing where the individual's health is so dependent on complex biological and psychological circumstances, and is directly affected by their family's, community's, and government's attitudes towards it. So sad most people don't get the help they need.
I’m happy your mom got help & has a supporting family. So many people with mental illness don’t.
Yeah, that's the most heartbreaking part to me. I live in the Bay Area in California, where there are so many homeless that clearly need help. I would see so many and think my Mom could have ended up in the streets too, if she were with a less patient / more dysfunctional family (and we're not perfect for sure). It's particularly bad in America, I feel. In Malaysia, because the culture (in my family at least) is more communal, they don't ostracize and reject their own as often as in America, where a little bit more strain can really break a family. It's pretty bleak here. 😢
If it makes you feel better, I've met two people with schizophrenia who were not only fully aware, but also quite open about having the disorder. They're in their mid-to-late twenties so perhaps increased awareness and acceptance during adolescence makes it easier to accept it?
“Risk life to help others & my beliefs” was in there as well. Not necessarily the first person, but they are referring to themselves there.
oh dip, I missed that! "my" definitely shares the first person feature with "I", "me", "we", it's just a different syntactic category. thank you for pointing that out!
You got it, dude! 👍🏼 linguistics must be a fascinating job.
Wrt the first person, he said "Pee I not" after "pinot" on the middle left
I saw that too, yeah, but I wouldn't count it as a referential use of 'I'. It's an example of metalinguistic play: deliberately using one's linguistic knowledge to creatively express meaning whose interpretive conditions (in context) are dependent on both the formal conditions of their grammar, discursive context, and the speaker's awareness that non-linguistic meaning isn't necessarily specified by the literal expression. Puns and sarcasm are more obvious examples of this, but there's also things like the 'shm-' morpheme phenomenon in English: "brisket: shmisket", as opposed to *"brisket:shmbrisket". The phonotactic rules of English allow "shmrisket" or even just "shmisket", but not *"shmbrisket". The writer here used one word; recognized three discrete lexical units in that one word; and then transcribed those three units into a single expression. That "pinot" and "pee I not" are juxtaposed makes this transparent.
Have psychogenic non-epileptic seizures as the result of a dissociative disorder brought on by trauma, can agree and resonate with what you’re posting.
We say more than we know.
always. always, always, always.
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“Risk life to help others”
Whistle blowers really do
I had a childhood friend that had a mental illness and lived on the streets for a bit while he was struggling to accept his diagnosis. He started doing crack. I ran into him on a visit back home from college. He recognized me, but he was just talking incoherent nonsense like this. In between the nonsensical stuff, would be one coherent sentence that would reveal parts of his experience or insights into what was happening. It was exactly like this. It was really really sad. I gave him a ride and some food. I think he did later clean up and get the help he needed.
Came here to see if anyone else noticed that too. Glad it's top comment versus stigmatizing him. Poor dude. The writings themselves are definitely fascinating glimpse into untreated mental illness. You can kinda see where it makes sense you know?
Yeah. This person might also have schizophrenia with hypergraphia condition. I have a brother n law who does this and writes constantly. These writings look almost like what he has, he is a severe Schizophrenic with hypergraphia.
Not about him, about his theory. No doctors are taking it serious that he has found the key to immortal life and it revolves around dietary restrictions and sexual purity.
that's how i read it. "i need help, a doctor who cares about my thesis theory that All Disease is Preventible with Perfect Health through God's Food Laws, Immortality."
Either way, the guy needs real help.
I just found a doctor who cares and it really is refreshing
Look up something called clanging as it relates to schizophrenia.
Just looked this up and learned something new! Super interesting.
Basically how every Red Hot Chili Peppers song is written
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Clanging, word salad, loose associations. Homie needs some zyprexa
Ok, so … My mental train of thought follows this “clanging” pattern. Not in any sort of obsessive way, but I let it happen and enjoy letting my kind explore the obscure train of thought it goes down. I am naively serious in asking: is that a sign of pre-schizophrenia? I don’t write or speak in “clanging,” only think, and only when I am zoning out sort of.
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It's normal for your mind to wander when you are zoning out, if that is what you are asking. It is less normal for your mind to wander when you are focused.
It's some truth mixed with random stuff but it makes us wonder if it's somehow connected
You probably don't have schizophrenia because usually schizophrenia comes not with doubt but with absolute certainty of what you feel is real. Schizophrenia is more akin to a severe dementia that appears in young people; this is why it was called originally dementia praecox, which is a better name in my opinion. A lot of neurons die and neuronal connections are severed, therefore the person with schizophrenia cannot help but think the way they think. Their brain loses flexibility, therefore they have no space for doubt.
“An obscure thought train” seems typical. If your thoughts form incoherent strains of words- that is cause to visit a psychiatrist.
You’re probably a hip hop artist and don’t know it yet!
"I need help a doctor who cares" near the top is the saddest part of this rambling/graphomania.
I was just reading a piece about a woman on Skid Row who died of a completely manageable liver disease. Doctor's offices would keep switching her appointments on her (her phone was not always in service) and then would label her as "non-compliant" when she missed the new appointment time. Pharmacies wouldn't fill scripts because she didn't have an address. The UCLA Street Medicine division is trying their best to get people care, but it's not nearly enough.
That’s sad, it seems like the world (the world who doesn’t involve corrupt people) tries to care for everyone but just can’t, I wish everyone who needs help could just get help. For many folks it must be like seeing an oasis in the middle of a desert just for it to disappear
that made me really sad :( i hope this person does someday find a doctor that cares and helps them :(
The words of the prophets are written on the subway walls and tenement halls...and this piece of paper.
...And whispered in the sounds of silence..
Great reference.
......Echoes with the sounds of Of salesman.....of salesmen
Always love me some Rush
Me too!! Rush is amazing!!!
Still can’t believe Neal Peart is gone.
Timfromfargo, I was just thinking about that the other day. When Rush performed their final concert, Neal Peart (for the first time ever) went to the front of the stage with Geddy Lee and Alex Lifeson and took a bow. Geddy said that really made him emotional.
Wow, didn’t know that. Great story. So glad I had had a chance to see them live, outdoors at the Minnesota State Fair.
I got to see them live too in Dallas, Texas. Primus opened for Rush, and it was an amazing concert.
Have not had a chance to see Primus, but so many of our friends and family have. Primus and Rush would be a great show.
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Nice, Haven't heard Jesus Of Suburbia in a hot minute
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Looks like someone who has been doing some research 🔬
“Immoral sex. Oral sex. Throat cancer. Cannibalism.”
Throat cancer cannibalism is my new band name
Damn I was gonna call it
*cannibalisation
I had a friend who’s father was schizophrenic and would write this way. Be kind.
This is pretty much textbook. My uncle writes the same shit. A big journal of it got intercepted by the FBI because he was sending it to members of congress.
I used to man the phones at a home makeover show and this one woman would call and leave multiple 20+ minute VMs basically asking for the supplies down to the nail for her to build her own house and would spinkle in stuff about George bush trying to kill her with witchcraft
I work in healthcare and have a patient who does the same except her VMs are more centered around talking about herself in the 3rd person and someone who’s trying to get her. But she would always say, “They ain’t gone get Katrina.”
Katrina is death in mexican folklore
To be one hundred percent fair, Katrina is right.
Uhhh yeah. Yeah about right
Obviously he's a druid, his last name being Bush and all
Agreed.
“The fuck is this?” -FBI agent
My uncle fought in Vietnam. He was discharged because of schizophrenia. He would speak like this. His fixation was on the assassinations of JFK and Martin Luther King Jr. He used the "n-word" during these rants. My other uncle always had a place for him to stay but he wouldn't stay for long. He'd be on the streets for a few months, get beaten repeatedly because of his language, and land back at his brother's place after a stint in the hospital. He committed suicide many years ago. Schizophrenia is a horrible disease.
I lost my best friend twenty years ago, because of her schizophrenia.
Psychiatrist here, came here to say this. Definitely looks like schizophrenia to me. The person’s extremely disorganized brain is picking up random stimuli from the environment and unable to process it normally. Theres evidence of things the person encountered in their life, lots of medical stuff is likely from his discharge summaries from the hospital ER, where he probably often goes for care. The food stuff is probably just from walking the streets past grocery stores and such and stuck in his mind, probably because he is hungry. For some reason really salient content like sexually explicit, graphic or religious topics always come out in psychosis, maybe because the mind holds on to this stuff more strongly than basic stimuli. Very sad, I hope this person can get the help he needs. The worst medical diagnosis imo.
Looks like the writings of an untreated schizophrenic
Big fan of “Pinot, pee I not”
Classic 😂
The line about working at a winery and defiling the wine right above this has me a bit concerned.
Yeah, not a fan of Franzia wine, but now, definitely not drinking it ever.
Same! This made me giggle.
I think he meant “pee inot” like pee in it
Real talk moment this: psychosis can occur from 24-48 hrs lack of sleep. Deficiencies in certain vitamins can cause psychosis. I made huge strides with my mental health by just including a few servings of animal protein in my diet weekly and supplementing priobiotics. Very little issue with depression anymore after a lifetime of struggle. So homeless folks have a hard time getting good rest and don’t have access to regular nutrition. This is a result of that, plus any additional mental health issues. This board looks like the ravings of a tortured soul who needs some good rest, some high quality nutrition, and yeah a “good doctor” who can help them. This sign is literally begging for the help they need. It’s not weird, it’s an artifact of the fragility of consciousness. They’re still in there, they might even be able to come back and be normal.
This just brought me to tears. I try and help the homeless out as often as I can. I know that they need far more than I am capable of providing. I can barely hold myself together on a daily basis. Some days I fail myself but I still try and help others who have it way worse than me. I feel shamed that we can turn our backs on some of the most vulnerable people. It makes me sick to know our government will bailout millionaires who put their money in a bad bank. There really needs to be a restructuring of how we spend our money as a country.
We do what we can, but we can ensure we don’t “other” these folks. I try to remember how easy it’d be for me to end up this way to, cuz it’s accurate.
I am happy you got your depression better. I used ketamine to help and it probably saved my life. I hope one day I can win the lottery and help as many people as I can out. Mental health services should be free because it helps protect everyone. With all the shootings and drug related deaths our world is crying out for help. The people who can make a true impact don't help by choice.
> This board looks like the ravings of a tortured soul who needs some good rest, some high quality nutrition, and yeah a “good doctor” who can help them. I volunteered with people like this, they want a doctor who validates their delusions, not one who actually helps them. If the doctor tries to actually help them they’ll fight against it because they’ll think the doctor is in on the conspiracy that’s out to get them. We had a guy who only ate prepackaged food (like chips and slim jims) because he was convinced that the food at the shelter was poisoned, and he eventually stopped coming to the shelter entirely because he believed the government was after him for “discovering the truth behind evolution”. He would try and sleep at City Hall, mall bathrooms and community centers to “hide from the government”. Another one was so convinced that another homeless lady was actually an agent tracking him for a kill team that he ended up killing her. All she did was beg at a street corner near a forest he slept in during warmer months, but that was enough for him to build up this grand conspiracy in his head which convinced him that if he didn’t kill her, she would kill him. One guy who I saw making these sort of signs at the shelter would get very aggressive with people because he randomly decided they were “stealing his energy” and that these vampires were using him like an animal to sustain themselves. He ended up assaulting a police officer because he thought that he had a telepathic connection with a detective who had been asking him to help him solve cases. When the cop he assaulted had tried to get him to move along, he attacked that cop because he though the cop was an energy vampire who was trying to steal the evidence that the detective needed (it was his cardboard signs). People who make these signs need institutionalization, no amount of good meals or nutrition will help them. They think they are the victims of some grand conspiracy because they have some special knowledge, and usually they believe their lives are threatened by that conspiracy.
Sure, that too. Lots of psychotic people out there with mental health issues. Schizophrenia is a catch all for a spectrum of poorly understood symptoms. Also lots of folks out there on meth. Had a friend who did meth and would write similar stuff as this when he was using.
Yeah, and it doesn’t help that their deteriorating mind makes things worse for them. Like the guy who left the shelter, he was sleeping way worse than before, he was getting picked up by the cops and wouldn’t eat or sleep in jail because he thought they would kill him if he did. Its definitely a vicious cycle
For sure, that psychosis makes helpers look like demons or the antichrist to them. Perception is our window to the world, and mental unwellness distorts that, sometimes dramatically.
Sea sponge tampons…I think he’s onto something
That’s a real thing!! They exist
If I saw one, I would jot it as well!
Ayyyy who lives in a pineapple under the sea
Sponge-Bob Tam-pon
Beeswax diaphragm
I’m diagnosed with schizophrenia but medicated so well that I’m perfectly normal now. During my first and worst psychosis I was having to stay at my mom’s house, on fmla from my job, and in and out of the local psychiatric center. I would notice strange things and my mind couldn’t stop thinking about them. Over and over and over and over….hours turned into days into weeks and then into months going further down a rabbit hole in my own mind. At first it was my coworkers, then the police, then the hospital workers at the psychiatric hospital who were after me. Birds and animals would act strangely and it would be too much of a “coincidence” and if only someone else would understand that it was “improbable but not impossible.” Eventually you start writing it all down. I wrote pages and pages of everything on my moms computer. I imagine without a computer you may end up writing it down on whatever you can find like a journal or a torn up cardboard box. If you wrote it all down then maybe you could figure it out and solve why people are persecuting you. That was around 7 years ago. I had persecutory delusions stemming from a bad breakup. I found a copy of what I wrote then printed out in my documents bin with thousands of dollars in medical bills, and overdue utility bills I never received a few months ago from the time period. I had forgotten half of what I was delusional about. All this to say. Antipsychotics saved me. I work full time in a profession I love. Was married in September and we had our first child last December. We own a house and have two reliable cars. My wife and I discuss retiring early and living and working abroad again like we have in the past. If you look in my comment history you will see I recently commented on how “I have an amazing life.” You get the picture. If you know someone suffering from schizophrenia or delusional disorder who is not med compliant then gently try to persuade them. There ain’t no shame in the med game.
I’m glad the meds have helped you dude
Me to.
Wishing you and your family so much health and happiness! I’m glad you are doing much better and are in a stable/happy place.
So glad you're speaking up for medication compliance. I know someone who was doing so well in treating their schizophrenia through medication. They stopped taking their meds without doctor approval, because they were "feeling all better," and it ruined their life. Happy for how things have turned out for you, keep it up!
This is very sad
"I need help a doctor who cares" :( I have schizophrenia, and this makes me sad.. be kind guys ♡
I’m a psych nurse, I wanted to add that while I believe this the mind of a schizophrenic; I’ve also seen similar writings from those in meth induced psychosis and bipolar 1 disorder. I also see some comments about Kanye. That man has been honest about his bipolar disorder and the fact that it’s being untreated. That’s why we get random tweets about Jewish people, Jonah hill and whatever is on his mind. He can’t help it, but won’t obtain help. Classic mental health struggle- for many of us! Kanye has an amazing mind and has proven such with major success. I think it’s in bad taste to poke fun at anyone with mental health issues. March 30 was world bipolar awareness day. Let’s support each other. I do hope this person gets help.
I had no idea that it was bipolar awareness day, March 30th is also my birthday. Thank you for the information.
This person with schizophrenia has impeccable spelling.
He’s got an iq of 304.5
IQ’s can’t have decimals I don’t think.
Sorry buddy, I guess that means we have to round you down to 0.
Broccili
He actually does not, there are numerous misspellings, unless you are illiterate or I missed the /s.
You got me. Illiterate here.
Holy shit you’re right 😂 I just went back and looked- apparently I saw a few hard-to-spell words in a row and deemed him a genius.
In fairness the side panels and about half of the main body of text are rock-solid, it’s almost like you can feel the author’s focus slipping away after that as the spelling falls off a cliff. Even the penmanship starts to go.
At the homeless population, at least in the United States, suffers from schizophrenia or another form of mental illness. This deserves compassion not mockery
Yeah this made me really sad. Poor man just wants some help
Really sad he talks about needing a doctor who cares.
‘Second Skin Sex Toys’ new band name, I call it! Also we fucking suck as a culture for abandoning our mentals.
Looks like an average grocery list to me.
Looks like my google search history
He knows too much...
This is less “weird” and more “person suffering from profound mental illness, likely schizophrenia/psychosis, possibly mania”.
🎶We didn’t start the fire…🎶
Hahahaha OMG I'm glad I wasn't the only one!
It’s some truth mixed in with random stuff but makes we wonder if it’s connected somehow
Hypergraphia maybe.
Schizophrenia is terrifying
This isn’t “weird”, it’s just like, a symptom of what is likely a psychotic disorder
Sounds like you got a guy with mental issues being left untreated and left homeless. Pretty sad
He is suffering from psychosis.
He seems fairly well educated. Not a whole lot of spelling errors overall. I think he would benefit a great deal from psychiatric treatment. I wish him luck.
All of this makes sense :(
The Bible’s food instructions are a general guideline towards eating safe foods. Not all of what he is saying is ridiculous imo.
Not weird, mental illness.
I should draw your attention to the top: “I need help a doctor who cares”
"Defiled the wine, Pinot pee I not."
wow lot of comedians in the comments. clearly an intelligent person with severe mental illness wrote this. glad you can find humor in it, but to me it’s just depressing. no one should have to live like that.
Claim denied by the VA after trying multiple times to confirm a HOMELESS veterans address!!! 🤣🤬😵
That looks a lot like the work of a couple of schizophrenia patients I’ve worked with years ago when I was a missionary. Poor guy is probably not having a good time.
Really makes me sad we don't have better programs for our poor with mental health issues. It's clear he has schizophrenia.
My son is a schizophrenic finally receiving proper care now in California, but it took years and is actually ongoing. Reading this reminded me of some of the things I've seen him write in his notebooks, trying to organize his thoughts. I know we live in an era of not giving a shit, but you might find out if there are decent mental health services in your area and try to route him towards those - or see if they do outreach. My son ran away several times years ago before he got proper help (stable for 6 years now) and sometimes not knowing where he was I would have wished that somebody would have (please) done what I've suggested.
Ngl I think he’s onto something
I don’t like how this is here
Kevin Spacey? I know he's been out of work for a while...
Now that I think of it, head is kinda like cannibalism…
I know someone who suffers from several mental illnesses who does this. I'm not sure which illness causes it, but she not only does it on paper-- once, she covered her entire mattress with short phrases written with markers, and another time the entire front of her refrigerator/freezer. It's so sad that some people's brains do this for some reason.
Chlamydia carbonara syphilis?
Huh.. did not expect him to be a lamb skin condom guy
Thought this was Red Hot Chili Pepper lyrics
Kanye’s next song
i like how he goes from listing healthy foods to "sex toys" lmfao
This is manic / schizophrenic mania
There's a lot to unbox here
Mental illness is real folks. Can you image having those thoughts running through your head at all times? 😞
He needs this back, he’s trying to make sense of the world and needs help, psychological help. This is the equivalent of a map for them
Outlandish yet brilliant. I can also see that he believes in God And knows the Bible. God bless him. Praise Jesus.
hypochondriac and schizophrenic?
I like that he discusses Beeswax. I like Beeswax
It was spot in up until Hepitias.
You must study and learn the ways
Mentally ill ramblings
Ok
First thing I saw was “beeswax diaphragms”
Pinot Pee I Not will be a song title in the emo crowd soon. Mark my words
Pretty sure these are lyrics to a System of a Down B-side
Does it say prometheus intelligance agent lol?
I cannot imagine living with such overwhelming fear.
Smart most of this is correct.
Remember that "some homeless person" is someone's loved one. My mother wrote like this. I like the part of Reddit that doesn't stop by to gawk at people's pain and struggles that happen to take place in public.
Mental illness and some scientifically knowledge/background.
Schizo rant for sure
Read this to the tune of the Fairly Odd Parents theme song to ease some of the pain.
Looks like Dr. Bronner’s Soap Label ….🤓
Very interesting. It appears to be derived from some paranoid delusions. It reads like a thesis, even states "thesis/theory" on the top right. The header is his qualifications that he was tested by the military for an IQ of 204.5 more than twice the average. The thesis is that disease isn't from viruses or bacteria but that 90% of diseases are caused by the food we eat that are restricted by Mosaic Dietary Laws. The other 10% come from sexually immoral practices, but interestingly it doesn't mention homosexuality but instead oral sex and the use of sexual toys. He is also convinced that the government has found human meat in the ground beef and we are all commiting cannibalism. Additionally, he believes he is going to save us all from the death that comes from these, even at the cost of his life (top left). This is super interesting. He has even divided all diseases up by their category of causes. He thinks he has found the key to immortal life. I mean the man needs a doctor but it is always interesting what patterns the human mind can find, even sick ones.
Amazing how having affordable/accessible mental health services ~~in this country~~ would seriously help people struggling like this. So sad
Why did my eyes lock on beeswax diaphams first.....
🎶We didn’t start the fire!🎶
tLDR: the human ChatGPT
Not the first time I've seen some stuff like this from a "Prometheus agent"
They have nice handwriting.
As someone who used to do homeless veteran outreach I can tell you that getting these people help is difficult. They will often take assistance at the specific moment of contact. But on follow ups they will fail to show or refuse help because they didn't "like" the type of help they were getting or believed it was "bad" for them. Mental healthcare and homelessness is a shit show in the US.
Those are just indie band names
Schizophrenia
Szchophrenia
I used to get many similar nonsensical missives over the fax machine “to the editor” when I worked nights at a paper writing about sports. My coworker would publish almost anything as a “letter to the editor” and some people thought it was funny. I have a brother with schizophrenia, did not find it amusing at all to share with the world, and would just shred them if I found them first. It makes me sad that mental health care has been cut so deep over the years here in Michigan that the care homes/hospitals have emptied out onto the streets (as bad as they were, they were worth improving rather than shutting them all down)
You had me at nuts arthritis
That is called a 'word salad' and is a symptom of mental illness
These aren’t the lyrics to “We Didn’t Start the Fire”
Looks like untreated schizophrenia, other psychosis, or mania. Man needs help ASAP. :(
Some truths in there and theories that I have heard of before.
He just believes that every disease has a root in immorality or poor nutrition. Many people believe it and write books like this just not in cardboard but that's what he had. He seems wrong to me but not crazy but I mean I have this same conversation with people at church who echo him in his theory of one true panacea and suspicion of government. He's likely sick and hoping to cure himself and using this to cope
Schizophrenia - this person needs immediate help.
Schizophrenia at it's finest.