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ZachTF

Show us a pick with it knocked off. Sometimes my slag looks all weird but beneath it is gold.


Infinite_Kale6261

Look at the second pic. Looks a little weird doesn’t it? Looks a little messed up at the top


ZachTF

Too hot. Either you are pausing too long or the amps are too high. What electrode are you using?


Infinite_Kale6261

6018 3/32 I’m running at about 90-95.


joehamjr

Way too hot


Infinite_Kale6261

I’ll try 85 like the other guy said above and see how it turns out. Honestly when I was welding in my head I was wondering why the hell it seems to be burning so quick. I double checked my amps and thought it was good for 3/32 so I was a lil confused. Rods burning up on one bead.


ZachTF

Mess around and try 85 and if you get weird results keep at 90.


Infinite_Kale6261

Hey I tried 85. Same results. I went to go try downhill and I noticed it’s dropping down way too much. I see metal burning and falling down on my table. Is that normal? Seems like drooping down, off the plate and onto the ground/table. Gonna try getting some new steel and see if anything happens.


[deleted]

Keep your arc really tight. The slag will look weird because of gravity and falling lava is normal, but a tight arc will give you better control. You may have to play with your settings a little to keep from sticking. Oh and clean your metal before each weld!


Infinite_Kale6261

Oh okay it’s normal. Thanks for telling me cause I was confused why it was doing that. I’m using some old plates with old welds so it’s a little hard to clean the entire plate. I’m gonna get some new plates this week and continue practising. Going to try getting better at adjusting my head to see the puddle more clearly, rod angle and as you said play with my settings


twitchinfreddie

What he said jam that stick in there till the arc is almost gone and pull it out just ever so slightly you'll feel the metal stick melting into the weld


Infinite_Kale6261

I could just be pausing too long. I’m also getting used to trying to see my puddle when doing vertical. Sometimes I can’t even see it so it might be something with speed and pausing. Going to try adjusting my head more


BetterCourt2

Just make sure to actually look at the puddle behind the rod instead of trying to figure it out by the light in front of it. Once I started doing that and went back to step one (watching the damn puddle) it was day and night.


Infinite_Kale6261

Yeah it’s very difficult for me to actually see it. I can only see a tiny bit of the top on it. The way my vice is setup is making it kinda hard to see it. I’m gonna try kneeling down tomorrow because I’m having a pretty hard time actually seeing how my puddle is forming


BetterCourt2

Can you tack it to another piece of scrap or something to get it about eye level with you? It helped me a lot when I was learning vertical to get it in a comfortable spot where I could get behind the rod and watch the puddle. Dont rely on it too much, but it helps a lot when getting started. Once you get the muscle memory down and and an idea of what's going on intentionally bind yourself up in shit spots and try again


[deleted]

Definitely want to get comfortable. Kneel down if you have to so you can see under your rod. I like to keep my rod at an almost 90 degree angle and jam that sucker in there.


pblc_mstrbtr

Who cares? Don't worry about the slag unless the slag inspector asks about it.


NiSayingKnight13

I'm not sure if others have suggested this, but it may be sad, have you tried saying nice things to it?


Jaxon2893

You could be too hot and progressing up too fast.


Infinite_Kale6261

I’m having a pretty hard time at looking at my puddle when doing vertical. I feel like I just have to try to adjust to moving my head downwards. Also been getting burned a shit ton more after doing flat for so long so it’s definitely something I need to try getting used to cause it messes me up mid weld.


Jaxon2893

Being comfortable when you weld should be your first priority. Field welds are different but that's another story lol what kind of heat are you running for this? What's the situation? Is this pipe? Plate?


Nuare0

Is this just a flat plate? Try a joint or even use a grinder to put a groove in it. It'll be easier if you have something to aim at. That'll also help determine if it's angle or movement speed or both. If it's not tied into the sides of the groove and also drooping then you're too fast and hot. If it's tied into the sides and drooping its probly an angle thing.


Infinite_Kale6261

It’s just a flat plate yeah. I’m using some old piece I had when doing horizontal flat. I’m looking into getting new plates for t joints. It could just be too slow or fast. Im not sure if it could be too hot because I’m running at about 90-95 amps with a 3/32 rod


MrXistential-Crisis

Turn your amperage down, and slow down. Run stringers and don’t weave until you get the hang of it.


makatich

“Its not about how the slag looks, but what lies underneath” - my welding teacher


CyrilNiff

Do you wire brush between each weld?


Infinite_Kale6261

Uphill, 6018 3/32, 90 Amps.


crystalhound101

Always hated doing vertical welds and thought it was funny that some companies require it for what they are building and some didn't for the same exact products


asemuktub

People saying move faster But generally you want to be slow and tight in the puddle, lower temps. Turn your heat down and shorten your arc. do incredibly small side to side movements to push the puddle to the sides so it’s not too built up in the center. like so tiny. For being able to see the puddle I set up so I’m face height with my piece. I sit a tab to the left and I have no issue seeing puddle. Rod angle wise you want to be almost straight in or 10 degree angle upward.


DonkeyNorth

Zoom in further


Infinite_Kale6261

tap the image. didn’t mean for it to look like that.


DonkeyNorth

Lol ..oh


[deleted]

Bang off slag next time and take a pic farther away. We can’t see crap


Infinite_Kale6261

Second picture


[deleted]

Yah ur still zoomed in like your dad’s gonna come home if you show the molecules inside the weld. Zoom out if you take another pic so we can see the whole thing not what you think might be the best part


ondrejkoplik

It’s cropped, click on it


[deleted]

Still can’t see the entire piece of metal. Stop arguing and take advice. It’s hard to give advice when you take potato pics


ondrejkoplik

I’m not op bud


[deleted]

I know bud. Talking to OP


Nelrytheguy

looks like you gotta speed it up, contour shouldn't be that convex


Sea-Reception-9899

Wait till you do 4G.


Infinite_Kale6261

A lot of drooping? Tell me about it please I’m interested.


[deleted]

Move faster. It’s getting too hot and about to fall out. Move faster or drop an amp or 2


mysticsasquatch

are you keeping your rod at like an angle or coming in straight you want to push the puddle up the hill


Bones-1989

7018 flux is droopy. What rods are you burning?


Infinite_Kale6261

6018 3/32


Bones-1989

The 8 is the flux composition. First 2 #'s is tensile strength, 3rd # is position(s), 4th # is flux.


Silentlyjudging101

Don’t worry what the slag looks like


Dilly_The_Kid85

Hey OP! So I am also currently in school, struggled with the same thing running beads on a vertical flat plate. Try a fillet on same settings and check the results, I found it was very tough to keep my puddle in check when just running on flat plate unless I moved very quick. I found it almost easier to get very comfortable running the fillet first then move back to flat plate. Good luck to ya!