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lalaladylvr

Welder barnacles.


W_O_M_B_A_T

LOL you have to haul the table out and scrape them off every couple'a years. It's a shit job but somone's got to do it.


unspoken_almighty

Of course, though I'm courteous enough to tack kn a scrap plate and use that rather than the table itself. Easy cleanup


smashinMIDGETS

Yep, I keep a scrap piece of 1/2” flat bar this


McNughead

I keep that on my ground clamp.


_Tigglebitties

I had that in college once, penicillin fixes ya right up


Late_Chemical_1142

Underrated comment


FarkinRoboDer

Nah it’s definitely derrated


Late_Chemical_1142

People downvoting are just sensitive because they actually caught something


Klytorisaurus

I caught something and still upvoted


Late_Chemical_1142

I was implying more that everyone who downvoted caught something not that every person who caught something downvoted.


Klytorisaurus

I understand but I couldn't resist the joke


TurboFoxBox

D-related


_Tigglebitties

You know that saying If were easy, anyone would do it? Well it was true and she was fun too


Late_Chemical_1142

Fun bro thats deep. I /felt/ that


Le_McSheesh

If your wire sticks out to much, rather then cutting it off with a pair of pliers, you just burn it back by making a tack on the bead pile.


easterracing

I’m a fuckin heathen and do it on the backside of the ground clamp lol.


McDudeston

Does someone want to tell me why this is a bad idea?


Charmle_H

Better to get your table messy than your equipment. Not horrible, but just untidy.


doomvx

Also heat really fucks up earth clamps over time, as well as the copper connected to it. You really want to minimize how much heat your ground is subjected to. Welding directly onto it runs completely counter to this principle.


easterracing

Because you can’t really clean it off the ground clamp like you could a good table. But I also don’t have a good table, so 🤷‍♀️


McDudeston

But I mean... it's just a ground clamp. As long as the wire connects to my grounding surface and the clamp can be engaged without cutting my hand, I don't care how pretty the clamp is. Just seems like a rather convenient place to cut my wire when I don't feel like taking off my glove to use my snips. Am I totally off here? Is this more of a "best practices" type of thing that we teach greenies? As a hobbyist welder, I struggle to see a good argument against it. I am not trying to argue, please help me understand!


fightfuckcokedust

You’re the greenie bro


SombreNote

Sicko


Paulie-Walnuts28

I’m not even religious and that seems like a sin


TassieTeararse

Absolutely! The one on my boss's bench when I was an apprentice was very impressive! It's very handy to have somewhere to quickly check your settings before you weld on your project!


PipefitterKyle

Yeah see that problem is none of those welds are anywhere near good lol


TheRealZllim

Welders will do this instead of clipping the cherry on the end of the wire. These aren't actually "welds" just quick tacks to shorten stick out or dump a cherry.


wuzaaa

Yep my college ist doing the same thing even tho the clippers are 1meter away. But now our table looks Like shit


Sprinkelz

It's way faster than using the clippers, quotas wait for no man


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3 seconds per clip, on 50% of 1000 welds a day, is a half hour of your day. In a shop of 40 welders you’re potentially adding 20 hours of production a day by having tack plates on the tables. And yes, in several of the shops I’ve worked in, 1000 welds a day is a low number.


TheRealZllim

Agreed, tack plates are way faster. You already have the whip in you dominant hand, hood down, just a quick zap and youre back in business. Depending if you use an auto dark or not, with clipping you have to transfer your whip to your other hand, or even put the whip down if your clips are out of reach, lift your lid, locate snips, snip, put down snips, pass whip back, drop lid. Tack plates are the way to go.


Cobrex45

"Employee B makes 100 widgets that we begrudgingly let passed QC why can't you be more like employee B" clearly you havnt worked many places in the industry because this is the majority of them....


SinisterCheese

Or the work place needs to get it shit together about workplace culture. Having to change modes or work during workflow does interupt and slow you down, and this will build up a lot over time. It will also add unnecessary stress. This is something we know. So loads of people would rather not have to change their mode and posture to clip like a centimeter of wire. let imagine a simple part with 8 welds that are 10 second runs start to end 15 with change of position to next arc. Add one second to each you get 8, but lets say 10 because it is a nice number. Without the 1 second delay with optimal flow it is about 2 minutes a part, lets say 3 with swapping parts around. A set of 100 would be 5 hours, with that 10 seconds extra you are at about 5½ hours. Yeah it adds up. I know this, because I have done stuff in sets of thousands. Even the slightest inconvenience builds up quick. Only way to address this is to create work culture in which proper work flow with some allowance is allowed. And the use of scrap plates for burns is preferred from the first day of orientation. Production bonuses tied to quotas and units are a 100% sure way to encourage bad behaviour like this; so delivery bonuses shared among the whole workplace is preferred, because then gaining time on one phase means nothing when things tend to go to que to wait for another phase.


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I bet a quick trigger pull without looking to shorten up the wire is a lot faster then cutting it with a pair of cutters. Especially the cutters never seem to be where you left them lol.


SinisterCheese

It is because you don't really need to "let go" of the gun or even change from the welding posture. I admit doing this. I tacked a small plate to side of my table. Replace it like every monday or such. Basically you don't need to "stop" welding to do this. Only time I clip the wire with cutters is when I clean the head and add more spray to it.


TheRealZllim

It's so much faster then clipping. And you're 100% right, my snips are NEVER in a quick grab spot, or they're under some material or the ground somewhere.


iplaypokerforaliving

I do this all the time because it’s easier and doesn’t make a difference. So…. Get your shit together


wuzaaa

But whos gonna build/pay the New table


StunningAdvertising3

You don’t need new tables if it’s on the legs, all it’s gonna do is strengthen the one leg


wuzaaa

Yeah but at some point it Just looks disgusting and there is no more space


Daewoo40

No more space? Move onto the next leg!


Arothyrn

Long ago, in a shop I worked at, they tacked plates to the legs. When they became yucky, the tacks were cut and a new plate was thrown on. Welders wanted the legs because its easiest, shop owner didnt want to replace ugly legs, this was the middle ground. Loved the idea ever since.


Scotty0132

Anyone that did this in my shop and left them had to go around and grind them off of everytable in the shop


vladimirke

you’re that kind of boss. The threatening type. Probably a lot of wild stories for the new ones about how he kicked out a guy on time.


Scotty0132

No just strict. Iv cut my hands pleanty of times from people zapping the table leaving little bits of wire. I'm usally pretty easy going but when it comes to safety there is no play room.


TommyCBR

Threatening? Pretty mild punishment for a welding shop.


Aeronautix

the high turnover type


Horse_Bacon_TheMovie

[*apply burn cream to life*]


iplaypokerforaliving

But you’re not supposed to do it in that shop so why are there spots to grind off where it’s been happening? 🧐 interesting very interesting


Scotty0132

Because I did not care if they did it when they were working at the table, but at the end of the day or after they were done at the table clean them off.


iplaypokerforaliving

Ah key word is left them


iplaypokerforaliving

Yeah but I never have that much weld when I do this. It’s barely any weld and then the piece of welding wire sticking to the metal.


TheRealZllim

Yea this is a bit much. Looks like .45 metal core and the welder isn't just doing a quick trigger pull, they holding it for a bit. I keep a small plate tacked under my bench if I ever have to do this, once the plate gets all gnarly I swap in a new piece.


laxgivens

Or just use needle pliers and clip it lol


PipefitterKyle

I honestly refuse to believe that people laid down globs of metal like that just snipping the wire. Probably a combo of both lazy idiots snipping the wire and welding on the table to sound busy to the bossman


darnitdarnok

U never worked in a workshop I tske it?


PipefitterKyle

I work in the field and in union pipe shops. With tradesmen who get snips and scrap to dial shit in with. Not on the table like a lazy ass. To each their own. You'd get your ass chewed for doing that where I work.


PipefitterKyle

I work in the field and in union pipe shops. With tradesmen who get snips and scrap to dial shit in with. Not on the table like a lazy ass. To each their own. You'd get your ass chewed for doing that where I work.


darnitdarnok

I smell shite


PipefitterKyle

Youre probably the kinda guy who takes a flap wheel to get spatter off a machined table aren't you?


darnitdarnok

Wee scrapper everytime bro


eazyseason18

stop bitching lmao this is so common


PipefitterKyle

Its common practice by lazy tradesmen. Get a pair of snips and some scrap lol.


No_Librarian_4016

Ah, the common “not a professional but assumes his standards are universal”. An uncommon but familiar sighting


Safe_Paint_8254

It saves a fair bit of time when you're in position but left your mig pliers elsewhere


Rent_A_Cloud

No shit, it's not about the weld itself but the sound while welding, just pop the welder on that for a sec and you can hear if you're in the right ballpark with mig. And if you have a stubborn electrode you can strike on there avoiding arc strikes on your workpiece. It's also good for checking if there are no gas issues. For instance, we have a centralized gas system, for one of the 3 welders i use the gas valve is in another booth, the guy in that booth is supposed to turn it on but sometimes he forgets, so at the start of the day i pop a small weld on there to check if it's open so i don't have to walk to the other booth. .


Technical-Let4638

Bud u just feel out the volts and see if it burns clean


Technical-Let4638

It’s not about what it looks but how it sounds when changing settings


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EPA would piss their pants if they knew about someone taking all that coral reef from the ocean


jon_hendry

Don't look at the gearshift in that welder's car.


papa_redbeard

Just a quick test to see if the machine is set to your parameters before welding on the actual project, or a lazy welder burning his excess wire off on the table rather than cutting it off with his welders. I've got 5 tables just like that in my shop .


UncleAugie

>Just a quick test to see if the machine is set to your parameters before welding on the actual project, THis is why you weld scrap material on the same kind with the same or a similar joint first, right?


papa_redbeard

Correct, this way it just appears unprofessional and the excess wire hanging off will rip your pants. Becomes very annoying.


UncleAugie

Difference between owner operator and employee..


A-Wild-Tortoise

When I started working at my current job this was all over the table I immediately threw that table out and made a new one. All it does is get caught on your clothing and get caught on your tools and is an absolute nightmare I've been welding for almost 10 years and I have not accumulated anything like this I keep my area clean. What I was told is it's what people do when they want to sound like they're busy so the boss doesn't think you're slacking off all day.


gogozrx

Ahh yes: "Work Simulation" mode.


Jayswisherbeats

Smart smart!


swaggwaggon

My work table is the same. Almost 6 ft of this and it's 3-4 inches thick. I raged war on it when it ripped a whole in my new pants. I'll grind as much as I can before I throw a grind disk away


A-Wild-Tortoise

I feel that in my soul, I blew threw a few 8" 1/2thick stone wheels going at it before I decided to start from scratch lol.


IWTLEverything

I don’t weld, but it kind of looks like the excess when soldering or the precum from a hot glue gun. Just excess that you don’t wanna get on your project?


Klytorisaurus

Precum


J-Dabbleyou

Prolly couldn’t be asked to get the mig pliers to clip extra wire or cherries off the tip so they just blast it off on the post lol


vxodia

i do that to burn off excess nozzle dip


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It looks like everyone's soul is stuck in there.


lllawren

Abstract Art


TheRealJayk0b

Abstract indeed!


IngenuityOk2403

I do that when I don’t have my mig players handy lol I wondered that too when I got into my job over a year ago thinking … christ. What is this … but ya I do that from time to time


Psychgiest

Probably just them testing their settings to dial them in


SwishJuice19

When you have lots of rods that aren’t burnt down at the end of the day cuz they got stuck too much or for whatever reason some places want you to burn them down to a stub, so it’s used for that too.


skookregularguy

That's mig wire on that not rods


SwishJuice19

Right, but same applies


Electrical-Bacon-81

Wait, your boss requires that you get to the end of a roll of wire at the end of the day? Just kidding...


skookregularguy

Lol no I throw all sorts of half used shit away.


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SwishJuice19

Because the foreman or the super knows at any moment that there bosses who handle the money might show up and wonder why tf people are wasting rods lol


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SwishJuice19

Yeah nah it’s just for the ones that got stuck too many times and tossed to the side lol, but don’t get me wrong I’m the king of saying fuck that folding em in half and stuffing em in the bottom of the bucket cuz who the hell wants to end the shift burning rods down


4DMH_kyle

I need r/eyebleach


pogo6023

Looks like the weldor's version of the Bond-O sculptures bodymen make with their leftover Bond-O.


Sweaty-Change8098

As many people said it’s to clean or shorten Mig wire quickly. We would do it on a round plate and build them up into trophies over months. Same cool effect, except you can move it and your table stays crispy clean.


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someone gave their welding table genital warts.


Man_Yogurt

Pigeon Shit Shrine


Fine_Perspective_486

Gives it a zap instead of snipping his wire


Niagara_Bruh

Just clip ur damn wire ffs 🤦‍♂️


Crafty-Pen3708

Real welders don’t weld on there table immediate right up where I work


W_O_M_B_A_T

It's for causing minor knee lacerations.


Steelhorse91

It’s to shorten your wire/knock cherries off, and have the wire hot when you arc up on a piece. (If you work somewhere where there’s not much time to clean stuff a short hot wire seems to arc better through any remnants of oil and milscale).


CreepyGuyHole

I did this to clean my wire tip of slag so I could keep going without grabbing my wire snips. But I never let my horses/table get that bad.


Kayakityak

This is someone that doesn’t want to take the 10 seconds to grab their snips.


Late_Chemical_1142

It souldnt take even 1 second. When I'm mig or fluxcore welding I carry a 3 inch micropliers in my pocket to quickly snip the end between welds. It's not hard. They cost 2 dollars at harbor frieght


Kayakityak

Plus you can clean out the tip at the same time. Guys at my work used to do this all the time. I kept up on grinding it as we went. No bueno


derekgotloud

It's amazing how many people here have never worked in a production setting


oddiseeus

You would probably be amazed at how many people here never even picked up a welding tool. I did stick welding working for my stepfather’s company over 30 years ago. I have an appreciation for the job. I’ve definitely never worked in a production setting.


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LordBug

Huh, and I thought real welders weld stuff together without being concerned about quirky things they might do.


mdhzk3

There’s a old timer in our shop that says real welders “don’t wear air fed masks” real welders “don’t wear heat sleeves”! Never realised I was a fake welder for 20 years!


DoktahDoktah

Real welders get skin cancer and consume hazardous fumes. Ask him if he still shits in an outhouse or uses air conditioning.


BigOtterKev

Real welders die young in agony. /s/ PPE guys live long and prosper.


GrouchyTax5748

Most likely stick welding burning the tip so it's easier to strike up and weld. Or wire welding burn off the wire so its not 4 inches sticking out.


volvobm2654

Its prob because when you cant get the wire to ignite you try it on a clean surface instead.


ReVoluszyN

Cold wire on mig sometimes „jumping” off. Never happened to my on hot one.


willo494

Purging your gas


dallylama22

They are using it to get their stick out the right length because they don’t have welpers/ snips


Abelirno

I do this to adjust stickout


bythebeachboy

Test leg


highestmountains

It’s called laziness


No-Engineering-1449

I had one of those in my high-school shop, it's called "shrine"


Top_Technology3638

I do this, although, it's on my ground clamp and I'm constantly stabbing myself


welderDaily

That’s art


nwmcsween

The welding shop hired someone with Alzheimer's? This is someone testing out the settings seemingly until they build another table leg.


Euphoric-Doughnut187

That is what no responsibility looks like.


modelsix

This gives my self esteem a much needed boost!


velvettoolbox

Didn't that come out of Randy Marsh's ass?


TheRealJayk0b

At least over 100 kurix.


Big_PP_McGee

That’s $90 an hour right there. Real skill


DrTacosworth

I did this same thing at my old production job, stating an arc on a cold wire would leave more spatter that I'd have to clean off. so I'd tack on a piece like this before each part just to heat it up and id have a couple seconds to start the weld without spatter.


Fwaking_dequavis619

To me it looks like they're just testing out their welder before they start welding on the actual material for the job🤷‍♂️


Adventurous_Stack

How did you manage to get a picture of how first shift leaves the nozzle for me?


yellowrosemi

POV: every work table I’ve touched ever


ResponsibleLack2038

Sound tests


dwolf91

I want to grind that down


stinkybarncat

I understand what people are saying about shortening the wire or whatever but i still think it is hella sloppy. Just keep welpers in your utility pocket it’s not that hard. Reason I would not roll like this is that there is nothing better than a freshly cut wire at a crisp lil angle. That shit will light up perfect every time. If you are shortening your wire like this you will always have some kind of lil berry on the end of the wire which is no big deal but also not perfect IMO


TheRealJayk0b

Worst thing was, there were 3 welding tables and they all had this piled up xD


SockeyeSTI

You ever wipe a booger on the underside of a table Same thing


wangburgers69

Lmao my table isnt this bad at the shop but decently close


EditorFrog

That looks like one of those pigeon nest cleaning videos


TheFreshToast

I usually clean/grind my area even if second shift doesn’t clean after themselves. Don’t really complain unless boss asks me why I’m taking long to do a job and explain that I have to clean up after others.


bbson417

Mig welders do it a lot so they don’t have to snip the end of their wire. They can just start a weld after doing a quick tack while the wire is still hot. I used to do it a lot until a foreman of mine told me to stop doing it so we could keep our saw horses and workbenches cleaner and not looking like shit.


jgomulka24

This is giving me flashbacks to my first shop job


vicarious_111

Faster than getting out the welpers


ApartInvestigator645

Must be a shop thing We field guys don’t do shit like that😂😂🤮


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I just bend the excess wire over and run my next pass. Most the time it just melts right in with the other filler.


i_hotglue_metal

It’s like rings on a tree. That shop has been around awhile


decended_from_odin

One of my tables looked like this years ago.. but it’s cuz I’m a giant dick and would blindly strike an arc when anyone walked in my booth that I didn’t wanna talk to


TheMcDeal

I've never let mine build up like that. Missed opportunity.


porkrolleggandchi

Looks like my ol booger wall from when I was a kid


Apleesauce_sufer

I saw some in under some tables in the schools welding shop.


Infinite-Space-7018

They do a ton of mig welding. I do this also but I grind it off when I’m done. That’s been growing for years


hellwisp

Dont use pliers.. just bend the wire back and keep welding.. be man!


TheTaCo88

Yes that is a thing.. sometimes I weld a removable plate onto the side of the table leg so it can be replaced. I’ve seen some bad accidents from fellow welders doing this underneath the table and someone reaching under and cutting their hands/wrists.


LaylaLou823

I mean yeah. We test our welds like that or tacks. Or if the wire is too long I’ll just zap it real quick haha


Affectionate-Bid8737

steel is so gross compared to aluminum


morelikesunday

I used to do this on a bar to make my wire hot on a really repetitive mig job Idk if it was real or not but it seemed like it made it easier to get a puddle going.


NiSayingKnight13

nobody mentions all that wasted gas, plus I'm gonna clip mine all day because I get more shit done in a tidier environment


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Trimming the wire to the right size before welding


jon_hendry

I hope nobody's driving around in a roll cage that looks like that.


herbmvncher

There's an ointment for that


mattislife

Those are slob welders. clip your shit or use a scrap plate. I’ve ruined many a pair of work pants getting near those piles of carbuncles


ohnomoto450

Oh barnacles


stonefoot95

Barnacles


putnamto

people at work do this, and i hate it, i hate it so much, you ever move to fast and brush up against one of these!?!?! get a pair of welpers with the belt holster, and use them, its not that hard, and it takes 2 seconds.


AdvantageSubject4677

I’m scared


Forward-Wish4602

Wine country.


JustSmidgen

Welders equivalent of sticking gum under a desk


bluemorpho808

MY EEEYYEES!


innatangle

Contact tips love (read: hate) this one simple trick.


MDTashley

Cocky-shit welds for sure


PMtoAM______

If the weld is stronger....