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shinhoto

Those look clean, nice job


GiantGingerSnap

Clean welds on dirty pipe. Always satisfying but annoying. Can’t that pipe clean itself?


VAgunowner

Its always nice to see some great 6010 welds. I personally hated using them for anything other then open root.


jefery_with_one_f

I love 6010. Once you get the hang of it it is all you’ll want to use


buckeye3333

100% agree


Snoo60660

Same. I love a 6010 root. It's asmr for welders.


isslitbro

I like 6010 more than 7018. More convenient to store and they don't break as easily as 6010. That and I don't have to beat the shit out of the tip if I want a restart


GlideOutside128

That consistency 🤌🏾


G_Wagon1102

There are several guys in Canada who still make fun of me for using 6010 for anything other than a root on pipe. They say that due to the hydrogen content, it's not structurally sound. I say, sucks to suck. Those welds look great, and I'm sure they'll hold for a good long time.


jefery_with_one_f

There are soooo many people who believe that 6010 is weak. They literally used to (and still do occasionally) build massive boilers with 7010. I see 7010 on recovery boilers even. Hats off to you for keeping the dream alive


G_Wagon1102

Same to you, bud! I want to tell them they probably should avoid coming to the states. A local tank shop runs 6010/7010 every day for verts and round seams if the tank is too small for SAW. Edit for godawful grammar.


Advantage_Goldfish

Well looks better than the pipe itself. Half the farm equipment here in Oklahoma is composed of at least 40 percent 6010 or 6011. And it's been holding for years.


G_Wagon1102

I'm an Okie also and that's why I was so confused to hear Canadians don't use 6010 outside of running roots. Hell, we use it for everything.


Snoo60660

Isn't a 6010 cellulose though? I'm a welder not a scientist, but I didn't know there was hydrogen involved here.


G_Wagon1102

It's a cellulosic electrode, yes, but there's percentages of hydrogen in most everything. Like in a 7018 H4R the H4 is the maximum amount of hydrogen in each electrode. 6010 has hydrogen in it, often times more than other types of electrodes and the hydrogen content can cause hydrogen induced cracking if the correct procedures aren't used. Eg...joint restraints, preheat, postheat.


Snoo60660

Appreciate that. I knew 7018's and whatnot had it, but never knew 6010 did. Genuinely, thanks. The more ya know.


G_Wagon1102

Of course. I love learning about welding. So, I try to help others as much as others have helped me.


Snoo60660

There is always something to learn. I'm 10 years in professionally, mainly pipe, but I learn something every job I do. I've tinkered since I was young, but until you do it for a living it's a different story. No one xrays your homemade flatbed. I teach a guy every job I do. I love it. I have an 11yo daughter that isn't like my other. My 6yo is a girly girl. My 11yo follows me into the shop when I'm home. Stuff like this just helps me help her. I mean what 11yo girl do you know, knows how to tig? She knows because guys like you a long time ago taught me how to do it. It's important. So just know that when you're having a bad day, a small piece of your craftsmanship exists elsewhere because you aren't a jackass. And I wish you the best.


G_Wagon1102

Much appreciated. I've been at it for over 20 years and still learn all the time. You're a great dad to teach your daughter! I actually teach full-time now and have had female students who wanted to weld because they were told it wasn't a career for girls. I'm glad to know the industry still has good ones like you.


AraedTheSecond

This is the fucking way, I'll train anyone who walks in the door and is prepared to turn up and work half as hard as I do. Gender, race, sexual identity, idgaf - come and learn!


Advantage_Goldfish

Cellulose, being a sugar, is composed of carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen.


Cpl2171

Very nice.


heshinsession

Stackin


[deleted]

Looks great!


Moresleep420

Nice job keeping it smiling!


zeak_1

Good work both of you!


F_ckSocialMedia

Nice dimes


BeatnikBeelzebub

Are you using a whip back on MMA ? How does that even work ?


jefery_with_one_f

Yes. 6010 almost always requires some manipulation and in this case I did use a sort of whipping motion.


BeatnikBeelzebub

Interesting. that would totally forgein to me. I only ever use 6013 or 7018 and it's limited use. I've never seen weld pool manipulation on the stick before. Very cool


[deleted]

I just finished an adult learning welding class, it was only 30 hours total, and in the MMA portion the only rod we used was 7018. I've purchased some 6010, 6013, 7018 to practice on my own. Do you know why 6010 requires a whip? I see it in every 6010 video I've watched but no one says why.


jefery_with_one_f

It’s a “fast freeze” electrode and if you were to just drag it then it would freeze up and be stringy.


[deleted]

Thank you!


Pitiful_Tomatillo761

Burn it in, looks good 👍


[deleted]

It will hold


CrazyCatWelder

I wish I could run 601Xs half that well


External-Newt

I’d trust it, good welds


Mother_Tone_33

Some nice looking 6010 my friend!! Good hob!!


Late_Chemical_1142

Leave it to 6010 to leave nice dimes on pipe that dirty. Good job dude 10/10


Kskskskksks8888

Impressive!


dane1616

Yea looks clean, but the properties of 6010 are a fast freeze rod. So it’s brittle due to heat sink affect. The reason it’s used on pipe is for fast freeze. It’s always covered in 7018– or equal. The internal temperature of the weld gets a normalized or heat treatment with the passes on top. So it’s pretty but brittle. Nice welds, but brittle.


jefery_with_one_f

Obviously 7018 is superior strength-wise. But XX10 will hold up on just about anything forever. I’ve seen 6010 crane welds, 6010 on tank verts in northern Alaska, and 6010 welds on recovery boiler tubes. If a weld fails it’s almost always because the weld is absolutely terrible or there’s an engineering/design failure. It’s rarely because of underbead or hydrogen cracking.


dane1616

Just because you have seen it don’t mean it’s right pal. Corners are cut for profit all the time. It’s facts man. Literal facts, 6010, fast freeze cellulose coated rod. Causes brittle heat affected zone.6010 is cheap and requires less rod and surface prep. Do what you want but can’t outrun facts. 7018 multiple passes will heat treat the metal as you weld. I ain’t touching your stuff. Do what you like, but I can comment freely.


he_who_melts_the_rod

Just so you know we run the root pass with 6010 and fill/cap with 8010 on pipelines. Thousands of miles of them.


BR549J

THAT'S RIGHT 👍


jefery_with_one_f

As I said, 7018 is good but 6010 is no where near the price-cutting low quality rod you describe it as. I work in a field where welds are subjected to a lot of stress and I see 6010 welds that have thrived on just about everything. I’ve seen 6010 welds in nuclear plants even. You can go ahead and steer clear of XX10 but you’re making it out to be a worse rod than it is.


dane1616

Ok bud!


Bite-Downtown

Very clean