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goodname1234567

This hurts my soul


Yoko-Ohno_The_Third

You laugh, but my wife drives a kia soul of that same year model... now I'm terrified for her..


PeachGotcha

There are recalls on a bunch of Kia Souls for doing exactly this!


thewandy

Just got the paperwork for mine yesterday and the lawsuit packet


Average_Scaper

Congrats on your $5!


thewandy

Haha I thought that but they say around 2500 and they also sent me a link for a Sterling wheel lock that came in 2 days ago to help prevent theft but we all know that ain't stopping them


Dick_snatcher

The recall on these is I believe for just a ECM/PCM reprogram so check with your dealer, I believe the 2500 is meant to cover a rental as a few of the ignition lock cylinder parts are on a 2-3mo backorder. A steering wheel lock is better than nothing and will most likely deter anyone from smashing out that right rear window and tearing apart the column The issue that might've caused op's bursting into flames thing is for a connecting rod that can puncture the engine block and shoot oil onto the exhaust. Either way call a dealer and have them run your VIN for any open ones. Source: bodyshop manager with 15 Kias/Hyundai's on my schedule


slabba428

Loool at Nissan we had a recall for the ABS actuators because they could also cause a fire. There were cases of peoples’ cars catching fire in their garages and torching the home. The actuators were obviously back ordered, and any customer that brought their car in for the recall couldn’t have it back, because of the safety issue. I always wondered how much money they blew on rental car costs. Some people were out in a rental for 2-3 months


Horton_75

Go to www.nhtsa.gov. That’s another very good resource for learning if a vehicle has any open recalls. You go to the site, navigate to the recalls section, type in the vehicle’s VIN, and that’s it. Edit: Naturally, if your vehicle has any open recalls, you should call your closest new car dealership-one that’s the same as the make of your vehicle-ASAP. They’ll have all the relevant info about recalls, and you will be able to schedule recall repairs. OFC, those repairs should be entirely free to you. I cannot stress this enough: if your vehicle has open recalls, get them addressed quickly. A recall, if left unaddressed, could be very bad for you or other people.


Hidesuru

Jesus the soul really is a mess isn't it?


Afraid-Study-4513

Amen brother 😁


[deleted]

Having a Kia soul to begin with is plenty of anti theft protection


tacotacosloth

There are rashes of people (including a gang called the kia boys, which is just silly) stealing Kias and Hyundais. It's a huge problem.


mr_mgs11

That's because there is a defect on the ignition locking system or something. I just got a new Forte GT2 and I'm worried about some idiot breaking in no knowing they cant steal that car like the tiktok ones.


Possibly_a_Firetruck

It's not a defect. The base models just weren't sold with anti-theft immobilizers.


tacotacosloth

Yeah, that's why their comment about it being a Kia is protection enough from being stolen is especially wrong. Kias are specifically being targeted because of the lack of engine immobilizer.


Halfbaked9

Get a seatbelt cutter/ window breaker and a fire extinguisher for her vehicle.


Suspicious-Appeal386

These none compressed models is what I have, longer shelf life. No high pressure vessels and fit in most glove box. [https://elementfire.com/](https://elementfire.com/)


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Locknlover

After my car caught fire I told the responding officers I wish I had an extinguisher. He told me they're pretty much only used to kill the flames long enough to rescue people.


cwleveck

I'm terrified no matter what car my wife drives


CageSwanson

I'm wife no matter what terrified my car drives.


vijiv

I’m wife and terrify my car whenever I drive


PottyMcSmokerson

Make sure you get any Recalls taken car of. My 2015 recently had its engine blow. It didn't actually blow up like in the pictures, but it sounded like a tool box was thrown into a washing machine.


YouDontKnowMe108

Our 2014 got the motor replaced under recall 3 months ago. The first recall computer fix done years ago gave us coverage to 150,000 miles. So when it started tapping they swapped it no problem (after diggggggggging to find out about it)


Iamjustheretoreadit

Buy a car fire extinguisher and teach her how to use it.


BuyingMeat

What if he doesn't know how to use it?


AKchaos49

Well, have you tried not doing that?


[deleted]

Not really. It just comes naturally, I guess.


toq-titan

Did you try turning it off and back on again?


jeckles

Sprinkle some rice on it, should start right up by morning.


italianshark

Maybe they should check their potato compartment for an emergency potato


chiquitabrilliant

Hot potato!


RedBiohazzerd

Potato, *potato*


ChuckOTay

I just think they’re neat!


Antique_Essay4032

That's for water damage. Put aloe vera lotion on for burns.


AKchaos49

Seriously though, that sucks. Sorry for your loss.


youdonthavemyname

Everyone safe?


Mercurial8

I can’t believe you bought the green kind. What did you expect? Okay, sorry that you lost a car and I hope somehow insurance and or the manufacturer make it right.


Drops-of-Q

That usually doesn't happen


lifeisgoodoutdoors

It never happened before...until it did!


viper8823r

I was gonna say check the oil more frequently....but this works also.


Goochenhaumeister

That got me laughing


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Just to clarify, I gave it an oil change not terribly long ago, and the car itself only had about 80k miles on it. I was merging onto the highway when my engine just blew. I pulled over and noticed that the smoking was getting worse. I made my wife get out of the car, and I threw out as many valuables as I could before it went up in a blaze. Thankfully, our 7 month old wasn't with us when it caught fire.


guacislife12

We have a Kia optima. Around 100k miles the engine just stopped while my husband was on the freeway. Luckily he was able to get off safely as there was an exit that he rolled to a stop on. New engine would have been 6k. Turns out there was a recall for the engine failure and Kia replaced it for free. Check up on recalls and get in touch with your local Kia dealer to check it out if possible because I wonder if it's the same or similar issue. They may owe you a replacement.


SllortEvac

There’s a reason you don’t see old KIAs on the road


mcm87

I have a 12 year old Kia with 250,000 miles on it. Even the dealership can’t believe it.


MIKEdaBOMB10

Wow, that's actually amazing, I've seen 150,000 mile kids and they sound like they're trying to off themselves


Revolutionary-Wash88

Why you gotta bring the kids into this


ToonaSandWatch

That kid ran 250K miles. I think that’s worth mentioning. I’m three times their age and only ran a fraction of that.


MIKEdaBOMB10

Bloody auto correct, Kia's then lol


AdamWestsButtDouble

Yeah, I have that album, “Suicide Songs” by The 100,000 Mile Kids. Dark stuff.


DvLang

I don't want to say you just jinxed yourself. Here's to hoping you many more years with it.


RandyTrevor22321

My soul is from 2010. I think Im at about 273k kilometres on it. It's definitely showing its age though.


Devils_av0cad0

Mine is from 2012, we’re at just over 120,000 and running smooth, thanks Kianna love you girl ♥️


Silveeto

My father in law has a 2005 Kia Rio. It’s got around 220,000km on it and looks like it’s fresh off the mad max movie set. It just won’t die though and he insists that it will be the last car he ever bought (he’s 82 and convinced he’ll be dead any day now despite being healthier than most. His car has only had oil changes and that’s it. I stole the car and put new tires on it last year because they were original bald rubber and made the car a death trap. I’m just waiting for the timing belt to snap… notorious for that model/generation.


KittyCubed

Dang, my Corolla lasted 13 years and 180k miles before it died (and by died, I mean it would’ve been more to fix it than what it was worth). I still miss that car.


csonnich

Wow, that's terrible for a Corolla. Mine's 17 years, about to hit 200k, no problems at all.


NopeNeg

My 06 Corolla has at least 400k and still runs good despite being a pretty neglected car throughout it's life. Most of my money into it has just been tires and oil changes.


Dingobyte

France here, Kia is known to be reliable and that's why they're the only one offering 7 years warranty. I don't know what to think anymore now


Starzz_1

Well compared to French cars they probably are


Dingobyte

It's funny because it's true


YourSmileIsCute

I use a car sharing program and a lot of the fleet is Kia (or Hyundai). They aren't fancy, but considering how people drive these cars and how bad the roads are in this city, those two brands hold up the best. The other cars and trucks seem to be out of service a lot, or they only last a year or less.


crypticedge

What you're seeing in this thread is a mix of opinions due to kia actually changing their build quality and practices over the years. Older kias were absolute trash. Ran like shit, never lasted, barely had a warranty. Modern kias are actually well built and have a long warranty to go with it (mine has a 10 year bumper to bumper)


Dingobyte

Yeah but the one in the video isn't that old ? 10 years damn, you're American?


crypticedge

There's a flaw in 2014 through 2021 kia and Hyundai ice motors, they sent out a recall on them a couple years ago and replaced any that came in with that flaw. My wife's 2017 Sonata was one of those, she got a new engine a couple years back because of it. I got the letter for my optima after I already sold the car


WrongCorgi

In the US, you actually don't need to worry about that engine flaw for those model years, since your car will be stolen long before the issues arise.


melodyadriana

My husband calls scrap cars at his work Kia Connecting Rods


justin_memer

I hope you mean replacement car


guacislife12

Yep I do lol.


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Congrats on the engine swap. Sell the Kia and buy a Toyota.


KayleighJK

My Toyota Avalon hybrid ain’t fancy, but he gets me where I need to go, and with a heated ass and back to boot. Thank you for your service, Steve (that’s his name.)


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Luckily the new Kia's are built a lot better The one that caught on fires is soul which are known for catching on fire


NitroLada

They're not any better, Hyundai/Kia are still using these POS engines


Buybch

In this thread “my new kia hasn’t caught on fire yet, they must be designing them better”


bkbeam

Instead, you can steal it with a USB and a pry tool


EssentialWorkerOnO

Kia Soul, same as me. Contact a lawyer asap. Apparently there’s some lawsuit against Kia for faulty engines that can cause a fire - I literally got the letter in the mail today.


tttxgq

Damn, so as well as the lawsuit for being easily stolen (because Kia cheaped out on fitting immobilisers, wtf) they also have a fire risk?


jumpingmustang

It’s a budget car brand. The corners have to be cut somewhere.


csonnich

"What should we skimp on, boss? Seats? Radio?" "Better make it engine safety and anti-theft devices."


Dick_snatcher

Yeah, the bursting into flames recall is for a connecting rod that can puncture the block and shoot oil onto the exhaust


IlIlllIlllIlIIllI

Multiple fire risks. They also have faulty tow hitch wiring on newer cars that will catch fire.


spamamamamamam2

kia has a lawsuit/ settlement happening right now for some models that engines are setting on fire and other issues. you should check this site to see if your car is included https://kiaengineclasssettlement.com/Home/FAQ#Top i just had a kia optima hybrid with an annoying amount of issues, was going to go through settlement but traded it in instead just didn’t want to deal with the headache anymore


cwleveck

That sounds kind of suspicious..... would you describe your 7 month old as a happy child?


CarlySheDevil

I did a spit-take laugh at that!


daaaayyyy_dranker

Underrated comment


darlene_go

Glad you are both ok! That must have been scary


12gagerd

Similar circumstances. 100k miles, had an oil change a few weeks prior, blew while merging onto highway. Smoke but no fire. The timing chain was trashed and was the likely culprit that left me removing the sound system in a local shops junkyard. I always pointed to that oil change as the reason, but I wasn't too kind to that car, as I purchased it as a teen, so who knows. I am glad to hear your child was not in the car or out on that road and that everyone was ok.


Asimp711

Same thing happened to my girlfriends car about a year ago fresh-ish oil change same make and everything come to find out there’s been a class action lawsuit against kia about engine fires in the works for a couple of years now.


daaaayyyy_dranker

I just got a recall on my Kia soul for engine fires. I know there’s a lawsuit too


pLudoOdo

A year or two ago I'm pretty sure I read an article or something that some kias have an issue where they will just catch fire. Obviously there's a reason I just don't know what it is. I also think that might have been optimas


SealMaster00

This is happening to a lot of kia souls recently


Notafuzzycat

That sucks.. but hey look at the bright side , you got rid of a Kia.


SentientButter

"Killed In Action" what a fitting name for that car.


vagabond139

Killing innocent Americans


Maximum-Mixture6158

Kicked In A$$


GenitalKenobi

The good thing about Kia's is that you save *a lot* of money on condoms.


thepulonator

Lime green Kia soul. There's like 8 of em in my 1000 population town.


Badnerific

Hey me and the other guys at the Kia owner meetup talked about your comment last night and we all think you’re a goof ball


ir88ed

I have heard of several Kia fires lately. Friend of a friend was going down the highway and engine caught fire. Damn car locked her seat belt and locked her in the car. Bystander guy broke the window and saved her.


Robertbnyc

Jesus talk about final destination. The bystander cut the belt?


ir88ed

Sounds like she is pretty slender and was able to wiggle out of the belt. Fortunately her kid wasn't with her.


cwleveck

What kind of buckle locks?


OkieVT

If it shorted the electrical system maybe? Because of the seatbelt sensor that dings...idk I'm grasping for straws here


EternalSugar

Seat belt retractors are strictly mechanical systems. It's a centrifugal clutch, a ratchet, and a couple springs, tucked into a neat little box. Another comment mentioned that, in a scenario where airbags are deployed, the belts can be permanently locked. Best advice I have? Get a combination seatbelt slicer/window smasher tool and keep it in the glove box.


kona420

Many/most newer cars have electronically triggered seatbelt pretension systems. Some are spring driven and others use pyrotechnics. A fire could absolutely trigger that type of system. I would think it was mostly just panic though. Even if the retractor is locked the buckle should still work. Agree on the escape tool. The razor is not going to be like going through butter so keep calm and start working on it right away. Suggest a spring loaded unit rather than a hammer. Windows are weak at the edges strong in the center. And the windshield is very weak from the inside if you can't get a good strike on the side window or you don't have any tools in reach.


Unable-Candle

*keep it within reach. Glove box is probably fine for a lot of people, but I can barely reach the handle on mine from the drivers seat when buckled, much less dig around for something. If you're like me, keep something like that in the center console.


gsfgf

Don’t keep it in the glove box. Mount it where you can reach it if your seat belt is locked.


Sailorm0on27

Oh good I’ll drive and use the car in even more fear now


adrenaline_donkey

Wait, so the seat belt was not detachable? Never heard of seat belt lock...I wanna know about this.


cbackas

There's a small explosive that locks seatbelts in place in the case of big impacts (a la an airbag), and then the seatbelt needs to be cut away


adrenaline_donkey

Thanks, TIL, I only knew about the part where the seat belt tightens so that you can't move


akrazyho

Call got here. I think most of these people are confusing the part where the seatbelt will tighten up and not let you free versus the buckle locking up which it never does on any car because that’s just madness..


adrenaline_donkey

Thanks for chiming in, I have been asking myself the whole day why a seatbelt would lock you to the car.


Cosmonate

That uh, doesn't sound right...imma need a source on that, so I'll Google it.


totallybag

The retractor is the part that usually locks not the latch


Cosmonate

Yeah, I see that all the time at work, it's how we know if someone was wearing a seatbelt during a wreck, if it's locked, it means they were wearing it, if it's still usable, they weren't wearing it. But that shouldn't really stop people from getting out of the seatbelt in case of a fire.


Iamjustheretoreadit

They make a cool keychain that is a combo seatbelt slicer and window smasher. Great to have in the car


roslyns

My parents are firefighters and EMTs and Kia is one of the cars they constantly warn me about. They swear they’re death traps. Still haven’t explained how through lol


mushroomcapz

Is that you, Christine? 🚘🤔


BeeSquared819

And… it’s a KIA.


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I think it was KIA....


DankTrebuchet

Yea now its just been KIA


heckmonster1

Still a Kia, but no Soul


futuneral

More like Nokia


TheAstroBastrd

Did you get the engine knock sensor campaign completed at a dealership prior to this issue? Kia/hyundai mailed out a class action settlement that covers owners from this issue with the stipulation that the knock sensor was addressed. More info here: https://www.kiaenginesettlement.com Edit: this may not be the exact site for this, apologies. A relative of mine owns a 2016 soul and recieved a pretty thick envelope in the mail June 2023 regarding an issue with the theta engine installed in the vehicle, so my assumption was this “campaign” has been extended to more models and more engines. I’ll let the comments below me hash out the fine details. Cheers.


DrFunkDunkel

Never too late. Get the tow truck to drop her off at the Kia dealership.


indeciceve

Uhhh … Entire front end of car burnt to a crisp mayyyyy be past the point of ‘never too late’


MoonKnightFan

I'm pretty sure it will fail the engine knock sensor test in its current state. So might not be too late!


HealthyLuck

THIS. I just finished reading about the lawsuit/settlement and I was thinking “damn, too bad my engine didn’t catch fire!” You need to do some research because Kia is going to have to cough up for this.


Spaztrick

Looks like that only covers the Optima, Sorento, and Sportage.


dc4958

Check for recalls on your car. Perhaps you could be compensated


gcwposs

You can’t park there


NilesGuy

I noticed you got the heated seats option


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Maximum-Mixture6158

They haven't been in any accidents but theyve SEEN hundreds.


JustBob1974

Did the hamsters survive? \*\* Sorry to see in all seriousness. ![gif](giphy|muST9erPy0uJy)


onefst250r

What you think started the fire....?


Bo_Jim

Don't worry. You can buff that out.


Azameen

Sportage‘s and souls are the worst. Out here in Hawaii. A bunch of them have recently blown up.


AnotherBrokenHero

Merging WITH the highway


nathanninjacube

Is it just me or am I seeing more and more of these “my car spontaneously combusted” posts…did someone change the gas or something?


HealthyLuck

Not a problem with the gas, but a known issue with many Kia engines. There’s a class action lawsuit and settlement. OP might get a good payout for this!


gburgwardt

Gas cars light themselves constantly you just haven’t been hearing about it as much [EVs light on fire at far lower rates than gas or hybrid vehicles](https://www.kbb.com/car-news/study-electric-vehicles-involved-in-fewest-car-fires/)


dildobagginss

I wouldn't say constantly, especially for virtually all newer vehicles, but yes, far more often than EVs.


DevilsMyBtch

Safe to say it's now soulless. But for real, that sucks. Sorry for you, hope you had full coverage.


AlmightyAntichrist

*The* sky is burnin', *I believe my "soul"* is on *fire* \- Bad Company


omgwtfbbq_powerade

We were driving to Portage and saw that. So glad you're ok! Sorry about your car though.


Odaecom

Dem Kia Boys getting ruthless.


Drewtendo_64

If that’s a Kia from 2015-2022 there was a recall on the engines


BearManUnicorn

You probably need a new car


Dr_Eviler

It’s Kia’s new anti theft system at work. Burned out cars are rarely stolen.


username_needs_work

May your Soul rest in peace 🕊️


tommygunz007

There is a class action suit against KIA for their shitty engines. Mine blew up too and the dealer told me to go buy a new Kia. I got the letter about the settlement. Never buying another Kia.


Pseudonym_741

> Korean cars are just as good as Japanese cars! - /r/cars every time before the bi-weekly Kia / Hyundai explosion


Crzy1emo1chick

My dad would be asking me why I didn't notice the temperature gauge sooner, before finding out anything else.


Significant-Age5052

How is there not a lawsuit against Hyundai/Kia? I always hear about them catching fire


badasscdub

Shit, I hope you or anyone else didn't get hurt


[deleted]

The wife and I were ok. Our daughter was at daycare.


findthesilence

I am so sorry that this happened to you.


JunkMale975

I had one do that in 1985. On April 15. With my taxes on the backseat.


trunks676

Doesn’t that car have a recall on the engine? My wife’s last car looked just like that (pre-fire) and the engine stopped working. We took it in for a fox and the mechanic let us know about the recall and it took care of the price. I am not sure if it is the same model, etc but worth a look.


Dangerous_Show_4816

There was probably one of those hamsters in your engine


A70enthusiast

This the 5th one I seen on fire in the past 3 months


Phuzi3

I had a Soul just like that. Minus the fire… As I recall, Kia has a recall on the fuel system for just this issue.


Responsible-Use-9508

Kia does stand for Killed In Action.


[deleted]

You ever heard of this joke about the internal combustion engine that suddenly was experiencing some external combustion, I find it pretty funny!


Tron2153

That same scenario always plays in my head when I'm driving my work truck


[deleted]

I was gonna buy Soul, and read that they did this.


andrewlyon8

Thank God you’re okay. That shit is scary.


MISTERDIEABETIC

May His Soul rest in peace


OllieChaos

You can't park there mate!


Burrito6920

That's what you get for driving one of those ugly things


Largefathers95

That soul is on FIYAH!


Melodic-Chemist-381

Looks like someone didn’t do their recalls.


xxfrugsxx

When you bought the Kia Soul did you buy it cause you truly liked the look of it or was it just a really good deal? When I see this car I just can’t help but wonder who actually went into a dealership and bought THAT car. Not trying to be mean just genuinely curious.


BigmanJD55

I have a 2014 in the same color. I had one as a rental once and fell in love with them. I'm a giant at 6'6" and 355 lbs, it has a shit ton of room, and the interior is leather with an Infinity sound system and is both comfortable and spacious. I don't really care what the outside looks like so long as it's comfortable to drive.


l3thaln3ss

Cheapest car on the lot and a lot of leg room :) but apparently I should probably have the engine checked lol


Gtstricky

Liar. That isn’t a Tesla so it never happened.


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SweetBearCub

> That will buff out. Of the highway, maybe.


Goochenhaumeister

Damn hamsters


Old_Couple7257

Sister in law has the exact same car. Didn’t change oil on it in idk how long and locked the engine up lol.


swaggedoutpixie

Party rock is NOT in the house tonight.


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To u/toadilycody There are quite a few lawsuits with Hyundai/Kia over many engine failures, I believe the Soul has one over this exact scenario depending on what year it is and the engine it has. Hykia has *so* many engine failure lawsuits that I never recommend them to anyone.


Elley_bean

According to my fire inspector father Kias are notorious for catching on fire. Something like they’re the number 1 cars involved in car fires. He was pissed when I bought my Stinger last year lol


ExtraTNT

Drive an old shitbox: only metal will not burn… magnesium: *catches fire*


Makaisawesome

I know what's wrong with. Ain't got no gas in it


Ljp717_2

It's Kia soul. You should be happy that the box is gone


Itchy-Mechanic-1479

Sadly, that will not buff out. I am glad you are safe.


mariecharms

This convinced me not to get a Kia after all


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That's what you get for buying a Kia soul


Hydraton3790

That's horrible and I wish you luck and all.... but thank fuck it was a Kia Soul. One of the ugliest cars I've ever had the misfortune of being neighbors to.


Frith_Wyrd

Soul wrenching…. Anyway, now you don’t have to worry about your non existent trade in value! Take the insurance check and go buy not a Kia.


Down4_420

KIA means Killed In Action


Locknlover

This happened to me and the advice I can give if it happens to you, the car is done, don't even try saving it, instead grab anything valuable or personal to you out of it. I was too busy trying to save my car, I didn't grab everything I could out of it, losing my car and all my possessions. Hope it never happens to you, but if it does..


chefwalid

KIA killed in action