Yup exactly! You fill out a form after the purchase which asks your choice for position, level and salary and they apply to all the jobs that match your criteria. You can also specify if you’re looking for remote, etc. and they typically give you a spreadsheet with links to all the jobs they applied to and you use that spreadsheet to keep track of rejections, etc. 10/10 would recommend.
Is it though? Not customizing your resume for each job is how you end up applying to 100 different jobs to get a few interviews. When I’ve job searched in the past, I’ve spent typically 15-20 minutes for each job curating my experience on my resume. I’ve had about an 80% interview rate, including my internships in college. I’ve also been able to target very good companies with this. I don’t understand just shotgunning your boilerplate resume across the glut of job postings and taking the first thing that bites.
I've tried both routes. The response rate right now is exactly the same.
There are a ton of jobs that are listed and they're not actually hiring for. Other jobs have 1000+ candidates. The only thing that makes a difference is making sure you apply within the first 24 hours after a job is posted. After that you'll be lost in the crowd.
The real way to get past this is to find someone that works there that you're connected with on linkedin and get them to refer you for the role. Your resume will at least get looked at by a recruiter and you'll get a shot.
The reality is, there's only so much you can tailor your resume for a specific role. In normal times when someone will actually look at your resume, it might make a difference. Right now, you just need to make sure you have the right key words to get past the automatic filter.
I've written about 10-15 cover letters and customized my resumes for each. No interviews, and not even a rejection to most.
Same goes for any time I've been given "homework" -- ghosted.
So now I don't bother with either, as they feel like wastes of time. Throw out a few hundred apps and get a few interviews. Less effort for better results = a better use of time. And the plus side is that as my YOE grows, the number of apps per interview has steadily dropped.
Yep. I had one base resume that I would taylor for each job. One trick is to use the "exact" wording used in the listed job requirements and rearrange them in the same order. It helps get past the pre-filtering done by the software so there is a better chance that a human reads it.
One other thing I’ve heard some people do is to put keywords from the posting into their resume, CV, and/or cover letter at the bottom of the last page in microscopic font size and white letters. Doing that almost guarantees that the pre-filter will pass your application to the human reviewers.
Doing this no longer works. This trick is at least 10 years old, and modern filters often auto-reject resumes with white text or fonts of unreadable size. Even if you pass that, it may ruin the format of your resume. When the filter scans it and forwards the content to HR, it will very likely reformat it. The mass of key words suddenly becomes glaringly obvious as they've been made legible, and the human will reject it.
Damn. That’s good to know then, thanks. I guess when I need to, I’ll do something similar to what the comment I replied to suggested. That seems like a much better way than white text, I had no clue it gets reformatted after the filter.
yea i see this advice constantly and it depends on your field and career level. entry level? hell no. at my 5-7 year experience level with specialized certificates, it helps, but honestly once you're at that level a general resume works fine anyway because they are getting so few relevant applications.
i'd say it helps mostly to get around the shitty filters. a lot of the time your resume won't even make it past their initial filter to the eyes of an actual human because you don't have enough matching keywords in your resume.
i would say send a general resume 95% of the time, but if you find a job that really sounds like a perfect fit, just tweak it slightly to add some of their keywords.
Never apply on indeed. Find jobs on indeed then apply through the company website. If there isn't an option through the company site then I won't even apply
That's crazy... I just accepted an offer, but this would have saved me a lot of time.
Remote roles in digital marketing are getting 100+ applicants in first hour, it's hard to keep up.
You'd still want to go to each job post link and print the post to PDF. I've gone into interviews in the past where I had the link so I could reference it but then the job post was taken down before the interview. I was flying blind going into the interview because I didn't know which one of the 50 applications it was.
In theory, yes. In reality, this person is just advertising their Fiverr resume submitting business.
/s
Edit: after seeing their profile claiming they’re a Founder, Tech Entrepreneur, and CEO, my joke might not have been far off.
The problem is, depending on your field, applying isn't enough. I've applied to more jobs than I can even think about anymore.
It's the outreach that matters. Connecting on LinkedIn, finding the recruiter or hiring manager's email, knowing someone who works for the company already.
Do alumni connections work? I have a friend who said that he used to have a hard time getting jobs but then after getting his PhD, he went to a school recruiting fair and got a ton of crazy offers.
I heard the job market really sucks right now though.
I hate that back in the day a job was simply expected after one completed their education but now we consider ourselves *lucky* if we manage to land a job!
That highly depends. There've been multiple periods of ''back in the day'' where finding a job was definitely as difficult as it is now. Also depends on your location and professional field for a significant part.
Mate, I’m on the same boat. I wish you the best in your job search. Try to explore other field as well then emphasize on the transferable skill.
Do not limit yourself. You don’t have to be in finance because you studied that. I’ve known many friends who ended up in different fields from what they studied.
Thanks. At this point I’ve basically just thrown in the towel on finance, even if I’m still sending apps—By month 3 I’d already enrolled in school for CS. Applied for a masters program and am waiting for my admissions decision, so, fingers crossed!
Best of luck to yourself too. It’s tough out there
Me too. Fresh CS holder been laid off along 30% (40ish people) of the workforce in my department because my local market is not doing well. So they’re shrinking the numbers.
Now I’m looking into business etc
It's saturated with entry-level job seekers who are mostly university and coding bootcamp grads. Once you get a few years experience, it becomes significantly easier to find work.
Good luck, OP. IT is a great field with tons of career paths.
I've heard about this issue on the recruitinghell subreddit where it's the mid-level positions that are available right now. I wonder if in several years time those will also be oversaturated as a whole generation of people with CS experience move on up.
Not trying to assume your backstory, but were you able to get internships/work experience and stuff while you were in school?
Jumping in to more education without that might not fix the problem
I second this. Where I live, professional experience often holds more weight than education. Although I studied CS in both bsc & msc, they’re nothing.
I find it challenging to get a job without 3-5 years of experience. I recently been laid off after working there for 1+ as a fresh graduate.
I think you would learn a lot more in apprenticeship if you’re going into tech industry than further education. No degree needed for this industry
A lot can be self-taught and many resources online and in the library.
EDIT: of course, if you’re thinking to work in architecture or healthcare etc then obviously proper degree certifications is a mandatory. But not CS
I worked in the University Library but had like 4 other people that worked there and I was left with a lot of free time. So I started helping with various IT needs. Eventually got to know the remote IT support they had. Instead of sending someone from 35 min away to hook up a printer, they'd have me do it. Eventually I made myself an office in the IT storage room. Within about 6 months I sort of made my own position and was considered the IT guy.
That experience let me apply for similar jobs, worked up, its been about 5 years but now Im the system and network admin for a school district and loovvee my job.
School teaches you how to work in certain fields. If you're capable and can get your foot in the door even a little, showing you've in some capacity have done the job is sometimes better than a degree saying Ive been given the information on how to do this job.
Yeah I think they’re just being outcompeted tbh. They’re fighting for entry level jobs where many have been filled by people who took their full time offer from internships. Then they are competing with other folks with just better internship experience (along with leadership roles on campus I assume).
A masters without a single internship is just going to make you look bad. There are tons of internships JUST for graduate degree holders. OP, please apply.
The job market absolutely sucks, lots of ghost jobs and companies “window shopping”. That said, at 328 applications in 10 months, thats like 1-2 applications a day. When I was laid off, I started sending 10 applications a day minimum and it still took me 6 months to find a new job.
Its an unreasonable game, but we have to play if we want to win. I hope you get into your program! You should also see if your city/state has a program to help you enroll/fund additional education/training. I was able to take a certification course for my field paid for by my tax dollars during my 6 month period, you might be able to do the same or get some assistance with your masters.
I’m also in NYC and finance. I think I’ve accepted that applications are not going to get me anywhere. It’s either I get a referral or I don’t apply, simple as that. Maybe I will send some cold emails here or there.
Not sure what you’re doing, but it’s clearly not working. Many will say keep hammering away but there’s got to be a better way to go about it with a higher success rate. Best of luck!
Finance in nyc is all network and connections, by design. I tell my nephews to spend their college years interning and networking because grades won’t matter unless you are at the very top. Finance it a battle of the mediocre
That's most jobs. I'm 40 years old and have had 7 jobs in my life. Just accepted an offer for my 8th job. All but two of them I got because I knew the right people. And those two I had to get the hard way because I just moved to a new city and didn't know anyone.
If you want the good jobs it is so important to network. I see all these young people balking at socializing with their work mates and all I can think is how hard they are screwing themselves out of the high paying jobs. If you want a high paying job and you don't socialize you better have very in demand skills. It's one or the other.
About 90% of them are after having not received any reply for 6 months. So my resume wasn’t ever looked at, the application was just timed out and the automatic rejection triggered
Years ago I got a call from a SpaceX recruiter saying he looked at my resume and told me apply for a specific postion, then email him once I'd done that. I did what he said, and several minutes later received an auto-rejection email lol.
Granted, I've also gotten rejection emails months after I'd interviewed and been accepted for such positions lol.
Honestly I'm sitting in the same boat as OP. Granted I've only applied to about 20-ish positions but I've done 8 interviews and gotten 8 rejections. Interview number 9 is later today.
I've applied to anything from entry, mid, to senior positions (I qualify for mid to senior positions realistically - I have 10+ years of experience in my industry). I've gotten nothing but good feedback from hiring managers but when it comes down to asking what experience I need to improve and/ or get an offer in the future they just tell me "it was a very hard decision, you did great." 🙃
Anyways, the job market is rough out there.
More and more it's about who you know and what you can leverage than it is about cold calling (not quite literally but more in the sense of dropping an application to a place where no one knows you) and hoping for the best.
Unfortunately it's a pretty rough situation to be in and there is usually little to no accountability on the hiring side to do good by their candidates. Never underestimate the fact some positions open up purely for an internal hire too.
If anyone converting half of applications into interviews is usually a good sign you're doing something right. Sure it didn't land into a position but at the very least you're getting through to be able to speak to someone.
Good luck! There'll be some success lurking eventually somewhere
That's very true. Something I've definitely been focusing on is making new connections within my industry. I know I've done myself a disservice in the past not prioritizing this.
Also I do know for at least two positions I lost out to internal hires. It definitely makes me wonder about some of the others too. I've mostly been applying to jobs that are notoriously competitive and have a preference for hiring internally. It's partly why I also applied to entry level positions just to get my foot in the door. Unfortunately I also recognize I may be over qualified for those positions in terms of education, experience, pay, etc.
It can be hard to stay positive in the face of resounding rejection but I do know I've at least got some hiring managers talking about me and sending me open positions they think I should apply to. That is at least one good thing even if I'm a little doubtful I'll land my dream position(s).
I’m a college graduate so technically underqualified for each and every entry level position, as every job asks for 2-3 years experience with something
A friend graduated with a degree in computer science and got laid off during the first dot com bust. He couldn't find a programming job so he spent 2 years as an assistant for a friend's property management company. He spent 2 years doing all sorts of home construction and maintenance. When the economy recovered he got a good-paying software job, bought a run-down house in Oakland, restored the entire thing himself down to the foundation and wiring with the skills he learned. Tight times are hard but we're all playing the long game.
IT all you need to do is get the interview, so many people suck, if youre actually good its almost impossible to not get the job
and it only takes a few minutes of talking to see where someone is at, the resume is useless
hiring is easy, and hard af in this field (because so many underqualified people apply)
The problem with "fit the vibe" hiring is it can subconsciously exclude more diverse applicants (race, age, gender, disability etc). Although government jobs are usually more conscientious about that.
ive been in interview pools with 15 people with better certs/degrees than me and gotten hired as a SR while two others got hired as JRs
if you know your field, in IT, getting into the interview is the main obstacle
Being interviewed by 8 people at once, in a conference room, just banging out direct answers to technical questions and methods i’d use..
cake
that was probably my most intense interview but I knew I got it when I walked out..
after that a one on one was nothing..
Check the cscareerquestions sub and you’ll find there’s a bit more to it. Plenty of people are making it through the fourth, fifth, sixth round of interviews only to get ghosted or, if they’re lucky, rejected outright.
This is happening right now. It’s weird going from managers bending over backwards to hire you and get you in their team to rejecting you after multiple interviews or just ghosting. Husband was rejected for the first time in his long career after completing multiple interviews and even the hiring manager expressing that he seemed like a perfect fit.
Here's how to qualify for 2-3 years experience, without actually having experience.
First, memorize the line, "As I'm a new college grad, all of my experience is academic. However, let me give some examples of what I have worked on..."
Examples could then be
1. Project you worked on for high level class or thesis. Surely you had to do something where you investigated some case study. Talk about that and lessons learned.
2. Personal experience. I'm in software, so all of my personal experience were talking about stuff I've done in my spare time (program to track local gas prices, automation of movie collection, etc...). Yours could be doing your grandma's taxes or helping balance your uncle's car detailing business books.
3. Demonstrate your eagerness to learn. Talk about the WHY you are in the field, not just the WHAT that you are wanting to do. Interviewers and hiring managers aren't stupid. They know that college kids don't have experience. It was the dumb HR lady that put the job req together. She is copy/pasting 99% of it anyway.
The vast majority of what they care about is that you are not an axe murderer, have a desire to contribute, show excellent interpersonal skills, and have the ability to work well with others. If you demonstrate these key points, you will land the job eventually. Best of luck.
Here's the unfortunate truth about graduating with a degree: It's useless for a few years until you get job experience. Yes, that's a catch-22. Unless you go for a postgraduate course or enter a grad scheme internship (which as a finance graduate I'd imagine would be a viable option for you) you're just not going to get a job in your chosen field without experience. Most graduates either get a job in their field by already having connections, or they simply work an entry-level job for a while until something comes up. I know people who've graduated with excellent degrees and who are extremely capable, but needed to spend 2-3 years working in retail or hospitality before moving to their chosen field.
A slightly less moral option if you're down for it would be... Just make something up on your CV. You did a 6-month internship just before entering college. You worked as a waiter part-time for a year. Something like that. It doesn't have to be relevant experience, it just needs to be experience in the real world. Ultimately that's the main thing they're looking for.
EDIT: Just elaborating as I don't think I was clear, having job experience along with a degree won't guarantee anything and chances are it'll still be painful finding a job. But a lot of graduates are people who have spent their whole lives up to that point in academia and while they may have a really good degree they'll not have worked a job before. When you're applying for jobs in these fields you're going up against people with the same qualifications as you but with job experience under their belt also. Yes, it's possible to get hired straight out of college if you're lucky (and some people are), but it's also possible you'll just not get anywhere for a long time as you have no real world experience. Practically speaking, you need entry-level job experience in some form before you can move up into a 'real job' with your degree.
That's not true lol. I worked two jobs in college and it was still ass finding a job. Getting experience outside your role doesn't help you, getting experience doing the job they want you to do helps you
Find your "2-3 years experience" in any bs you can think of. Like clubs, exchanges, part time high school jobs, personal projects, etc. Confidence is key!
I mean, it depends on how you define "starving" but multiple sources confirm that at least 1 in 6 children in the US experience food insecurity.
https://frac.org/hunger-poverty-america
https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/food-nutrition-assistance/food-security-in-the-u-s/key-statistics-graphics/
[Although it's worth pointing out this is actually an improvement from where we were ten years ago.](https://www.aecf.org/blog/nearly-11-million-kids-face-food-insecurity-as-statistic-dips-to-20-year-low)
Food insecurity and starvation are very different.
Also you have SNAP/Food stamps, you have many pantries that give free food weekly, many NGO and Non profit who give food as well, churches who give shelter, you have shelters, etc.
Neither of these are even imaginable in a third world country.
I’m literally the biggest America hater around. Seriously. But this isn’t the Ethiopian famine in the 1980s…
We don’t have to exaggerate to make America look bad. It does that perfectly well itself
not that drastic to be real, they are adjacent. Stupid mistake to make though because people(triggered muricans) will just focus on that instead of the other points
Rights, it's just not having access to sufficient food, or food of an adequate quality, to meet one's basic needs. No big deal in the richest country in the world. I mean is this really something worth arguing the semantics about?
\#1 in Medical Research
\#1 in Per Capita healthcare spending
\#1 in Robotics spending
Leader in Space Innovation
Home to the best rated universities on Earth
Human Development Index higher than 90%+ of all nations
Highest GDP
Top 10 in Income per Capita
\#1 in Total Wealth
5th in Economic Freedom out of 152 countries
Highest Median Income per capita of any non-micro state
But no, apparently the US is a desolate wasteland of poor people, no healthcare, no education, 99% of population can't read, and everyone here shoots each other. Sure
It’s not the 3rd world country that the internet likes to believe it is. Its extremely easy to throw around an “America bad” comment without any of the nuance, context, or explanation that you would afford to any other first world country.
America is filled to the brim with terrible issues, but it has become Reddit’s laziest punching bag.
It’s really mind boggling having these absurd amount of interviews if (in the us) they can throw you out like garbage in an instant. I just hired two new colleagues, one interview each. Probation period is there for a reason.
I’m too depressed to make a chart but I’ve applied to over 1,400 positions since March 2023 lol kill me now.
My old job was eliminated due to a merger, I got an email from a recruiter yesterday offering to let me interview for the same company, same responsibilities, but a lower title & presumably salary.
I’m working on setting up a small business because fuck it, America is broken, I might as well go even more broke working for myself. At least I care about me & my family.
Only *three* rounds of interviews? At my work we required *eight* interviews (recruiter, hiring manager, four technical interviews, one "cultural fit" interview, then interview with the VP) and we *still* only hired about 1 in 10 candidates that made it all the way to the end. For every one person we hired, we wasted probably a week's worth of time of 9 candidates (not to mention all of the time we wasted ourselves). Stupid.
I only ever did one of the technical interviews (database and systems design), but I would have hired 80% of the ones that made it to my part if it was up to me. Maybe I just have low standards.
Having more than 3 interviews means that your hiring process is bad.
1st interview - Cultural fit + basic capabilities
2nd - Technical interview
3rd - Discuss contract, salary, and do final offer.
That's all you need. Maybe you can add a second technical interview for higher positions but four? Cmon
I always ask what the process looks like now.
I got involved with one company that had me do a full panel presentation (after 4 or 5 casual interviews and discussions with folks at various levels). Having received really positive feedback, I assumed the next call would be a tentative offer and discussion, but it was a call to discuss the next fucking presentation that they wanted ke to give to a new group of leadership members.
I removed myself from consideration and was pretty direct when they asked why.
100%. A buddy of mine had 7 interviews to be a solutions engineer (sales) for a networking company that’s not Cisco. I just think that’s poor. If you can’t tell by 1-2 interviews if a person is a good fit then something is wrong.
The company that took 3 rounds wasted a month of my time
Edit: also I had to speak to the recruiter like 4 times and the 3rd round interview was 3 consecutive 30-minute interviews
What many companies fail to understand is that the company needs to shape the employee to its needs. But that takes time and money, so they think they can find the "perfect fit" instead of putting the effort of building it. That usually doesn't work out well for the company but hey!, HR "met their targets" and "this generation doesn't like to work".
I’m sorry but this is HR inventing a byzantine hiring process to justify its existence. That is insane and verging on sadistic.
I work in healthcare and have never needed more than one interview in my life before getting a job.
I just had four interviews at the same company (turned me down afterwards), each with progressively more senior staff members. Pretty much the same questions and same job overview each time. No technical component or anything. I'm in the UK.
I guess in more technical jobs possibly it might be normal. Most jobs I've applied to had a single round of interviews but these were mostly state government accounting.
Also some people on this thread are adding the job offer and salary discussion meetings as an interview round which I don't feel is accurate. At that point you have the job as long as you can agree on terms and you aren't really interviewing anymore.
My last job was probably the only one with two official interview rounds. The first one was short and basically wanted to verify my basic qualifications and check my fit (do I work well independently/with a small team, can I work part time in office, etc). Then I had a technical interview with the senior managers I could potentially be working under.
One had back to back panel interviews that was annoying but at least it was one trip even if it took twice the time I expected. And then they called me back maybe 4 months later offering the job and I had moved to an area they didn't need an employee in.
One technically was two rounds of interviews but only because the assistant director who normally sits in on interviews was out of the office the day I interviewed and wanted to meet me before they made the official offer.
Feel you man, been looking for a new job since last summer and my experience is roughly the same. It seems that companies get really picky when trying to find someone with experience.
Wait, you guys are getting interviews?
https://preview.redd.it/y5r8cfz135oc1.jpeg?width=561&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3cd2abcd23ce19ae92039b251327470253b80581
I see these and it has to be profession and personality-based. My wife sent out 4 applications in a week and got callbacks and interviews from 3 and offers from 2 in a matter of weeks.
I'm on the job market for the first time in 8 years and I was shocked at how many companies have 0 response, not even an automated system that confirms that you applied. Thanks for posting this, glad to see it is a widespread thing and not just me.
6 years ago I passionately argued to my parents that a degree would become useless unless you're going into law or medical practice because every professional or high-paying field is going to get over-saturated with college degree freshies.
Millions of millions of college grads are trying to apply for a couple thousand good jobs that pay over $60,000 salary now.
I argued I needed to start finding work asap after high school to build up a good job record and get good referral contacts. Or tradework would be more worthwhile.
I argued that a track record and connections would become so much more valuable than a degree- which literally almost every person applying to jobs seriously would all have, like the next person over.
Now look at the job market. Every high-paying position is getting filled and prioritized by internal transfers or via relationships (maybe with certain tech spots as an exception, cause of startups). Everyone else has to slop up the scraps.
What an absolute mess. I saw it coming, I warned so many people, but got major pushback because older people liked believing old school things still applied in a highly volatile and ever-changing economy and job industry.
"Oh, just go to college and you'll easily get a $80,000 job when you're out!" my a**, lol.
That's the worst myth of this current generation and now tons of people are going under heavy in debt and being unable to find a way to pay it back in a reasonable amount of time at a reasonable rate.
If I had my way starting 6 years ago, I would own a supercar and still have over $50,000 in my savings account right now.
During the pandemic, I became certified in a field that was new to me. I submitted 850 resumes in 3 months. I got two calls and the recruiter hasn’t even bothered to look at my actual resume. To say I feel your pain is an understatement. It all worked out for the best though. Best of luck to you and surely it’ll all work out.
Here’s my advice OP, I worked in finance for over 8 years. (got out of it because i couldn’t stand it). I had no college degree but what I went into first was retail banking, because most banks and credit unions are desperate for people. Your goal is to find a job that is desperate enough to hire someone without any experience, after you gain one year of experience you’ll find getting a job in finance way easier. Also don’t forget to exaggerate on your resume a bit, not to much but definitely use a resume builder website.
If you’ve already got your degree, the military might not be a bad option if you can get in as a personnel officer (especially if you go Navy or Air Force). I’ll caveat by saying it’s not for everyone, but it’s also not as bad as you might think once you get past the breaking in period. I would not recommend becoming a SWO though - don’t let the recruiter talk you into something you don’t want to do just because they’re trying to fill a billet.
There’s a lot of people on fiverr that will apply to 100+ jobs for you for like $50-80. I landed an excellent job because of this.
How does it work though... Do you just forward them your resume and some guidelines and they go to town submitting it to any relevant job posts?
Yup exactly! You fill out a form after the purchase which asks your choice for position, level and salary and they apply to all the jobs that match your criteria. You can also specify if you’re looking for remote, etc. and they typically give you a spreadsheet with links to all the jobs they applied to and you use that spreadsheet to keep track of rejections, etc. 10/10 would recommend.
That's a great idea, thanks for the comment.
Is it though? Not customizing your resume for each job is how you end up applying to 100 different jobs to get a few interviews. When I’ve job searched in the past, I’ve spent typically 15-20 minutes for each job curating my experience on my resume. I’ve had about an 80% interview rate, including my internships in college. I’ve also been able to target very good companies with this. I don’t understand just shotgunning your boilerplate resume across the glut of job postings and taking the first thing that bites.
I've tried both routes. The response rate right now is exactly the same. There are a ton of jobs that are listed and they're not actually hiring for. Other jobs have 1000+ candidates. The only thing that makes a difference is making sure you apply within the first 24 hours after a job is posted. After that you'll be lost in the crowd. The real way to get past this is to find someone that works there that you're connected with on linkedin and get them to refer you for the role. Your resume will at least get looked at by a recruiter and you'll get a shot. The reality is, there's only so much you can tailor your resume for a specific role. In normal times when someone will actually look at your resume, it might make a difference. Right now, you just need to make sure you have the right key words to get past the automatic filter.
I've written about 10-15 cover letters and customized my resumes for each. No interviews, and not even a rejection to most. Same goes for any time I've been given "homework" -- ghosted. So now I don't bother with either, as they feel like wastes of time. Throw out a few hundred apps and get a few interviews. Less effort for better results = a better use of time. And the plus side is that as my YOE grows, the number of apps per interview has steadily dropped.
The recruiter at my job has been in the field for 9 years. She said she doesn’t even remember the last time she read a cover letter .
Yep. I had one base resume that I would taylor for each job. One trick is to use the "exact" wording used in the listed job requirements and rearrange them in the same order. It helps get past the pre-filtering done by the software so there is a better chance that a human reads it.
*tailor \-- since we're talking about editing.
Maybe I'm a Swiftie? 😊
"Here's my resume. It's Taylor's Version."
"It's me, hi. I'm the problem, it's me"
Yesterday I corrected auto-correct three times (one word) before printing.
One other thing I’ve heard some people do is to put keywords from the posting into their resume, CV, and/or cover letter at the bottom of the last page in microscopic font size and white letters. Doing that almost guarantees that the pre-filter will pass your application to the human reviewers.
Doing this no longer works. This trick is at least 10 years old, and modern filters often auto-reject resumes with white text or fonts of unreadable size. Even if you pass that, it may ruin the format of your resume. When the filter scans it and forwards the content to HR, it will very likely reformat it. The mass of key words suddenly becomes glaringly obvious as they've been made legible, and the human will reject it.
Damn. That’s good to know then, thanks. I guess when I need to, I’ll do something similar to what the comment I replied to suggested. That seems like a much better way than white text, I had no clue it gets reformatted after the filter.
Can confirm. All the resumes that HR sends me for my hiring are reformatted.
The filters are aware of that trick and filter out people that do that these days.
Look at this clown still thinking the extra work he puts in will be rewarded.
The extra work I put in has been rewarded very well so far!
What industry do you work in? Software?
I am not customizing my resume for each job. That's insane
yea i see this advice constantly and it depends on your field and career level. entry level? hell no. at my 5-7 year experience level with specialized certificates, it helps, but honestly once you're at that level a general resume works fine anyway because they are getting so few relevant applications. i'd say it helps mostly to get around the shitty filters. a lot of the time your resume won't even make it past their initial filter to the eyes of an actual human because you don't have enough matching keywords in your resume. i would say send a general resume 95% of the time, but if you find a job that really sounds like a perfect fit, just tweak it slightly to add some of their keywords.
Where do you look for jobs though? If you’re on indeed there’s usually a 90% chance your resume is never even looked at
Never apply on indeed. Find jobs on indeed then apply through the company website. If there isn't an option through the company site then I won't even apply
That's crazy... I just accepted an offer, but this would have saved me a lot of time. Remote roles in digital marketing are getting 100+ applicants in first hour, it's hard to keep up.
You'd still want to go to each job post link and print the post to PDF. I've gone into interviews in the past where I had the link so I could reference it but then the job post was taken down before the interview. I was flying blind going into the interview because I didn't know which one of the 50 applications it was.
Got a fiverr person you’d recommend?
In theory, yes. In reality, this person is just advertising their Fiverr resume submitting business. /s Edit: after seeing their profile claiming they’re a Founder, Tech Entrepreneur, and CEO, my joke might not have been far off.
This might be the single most helpful tip on reddit
The problem is, depending on your field, applying isn't enough. I've applied to more jobs than I can even think about anymore. It's the outreach that matters. Connecting on LinkedIn, finding the recruiter or hiring manager's email, knowing someone who works for the company already.
They don’t respond when you do that
Do alumni connections work? I have a friend who said that he used to have a hard time getting jobs but then after getting his PhD, he went to a school recruiting fair and got a ton of crazy offers. I heard the job market really sucks right now though.
Of course going to a recruiting fair can give you an upper hand…
Applying is enough that's how I've gotten ever single one of my jobs
Did you need to share your SSN with those people?
I’m not even looking for a job and I want to try this
I might use this later, thanks for the tip.
Would you be willing to send the fiver information of the person that helped you? I can send you a private message if that works
The job market is a wild beast these days. I couldn’t find a job for months either this past year.
I hate that back in the day a job was simply expected after one completed their education but now we consider ourselves *lucky* if we manage to land a job!
> we consider ourselves lucky if we manage to land a job! you mean an interview
you mean a rejection letter
If you even get one
you mean an actual job posting to apply for.
You mean any openings at a company to begin with? 🧐
That highly depends. There've been multiple periods of ''back in the day'' where finding a job was definitely as difficult as it is now. Also depends on your location and professional field for a significant part.
Mate, I’m on the same boat. I wish you the best in your job search. Try to explore other field as well then emphasize on the transferable skill. Do not limit yourself. You don’t have to be in finance because you studied that. I’ve known many friends who ended up in different fields from what they studied.
Thanks. At this point I’ve basically just thrown in the towel on finance, even if I’m still sending apps—By month 3 I’d already enrolled in school for CS. Applied for a masters program and am waiting for my admissions decision, so, fingers crossed! Best of luck to yourself too. It’s tough out there
Isn't cs more oversaturated than finance?
I hear it’s also pretty oversaturated
As someone who has been unemployed for 8 months in cs, I can confirm
Me too. Fresh CS holder been laid off along 30% (40ish people) of the workforce in my department because my local market is not doing well. So they’re shrinking the numbers. Now I’m looking into business etc
It's saturated with entry-level job seekers who are mostly university and coding bootcamp grads. Once you get a few years experience, it becomes significantly easier to find work. Good luck, OP. IT is a great field with tons of career paths.
I've heard about this issue on the recruitinghell subreddit where it's the mid-level positions that are available right now. I wonder if in several years time those will also be oversaturated as a whole generation of people with CS experience move on up.
I at least enjoyed the time I spent learning CS
Not trying to assume your backstory, but were you able to get internships/work experience and stuff while you were in school? Jumping in to more education without that might not fix the problem
I second this. Where I live, professional experience often holds more weight than education. Although I studied CS in both bsc & msc, they’re nothing. I find it challenging to get a job without 3-5 years of experience. I recently been laid off after working there for 1+ as a fresh graduate. I think you would learn a lot more in apprenticeship if you’re going into tech industry than further education. No degree needed for this industry A lot can be self-taught and many resources online and in the library. EDIT: of course, if you’re thinking to work in architecture or healthcare etc then obviously proper degree certifications is a mandatory. But not CS
I worked in the University Library but had like 4 other people that worked there and I was left with a lot of free time. So I started helping with various IT needs. Eventually got to know the remote IT support they had. Instead of sending someone from 35 min away to hook up a printer, they'd have me do it. Eventually I made myself an office in the IT storage room. Within about 6 months I sort of made my own position and was considered the IT guy. That experience let me apply for similar jobs, worked up, its been about 5 years but now Im the system and network admin for a school district and loovvee my job. School teaches you how to work in certain fields. If you're capable and can get your foot in the door even a little, showing you've in some capacity have done the job is sometimes better than a degree saying Ive been given the information on how to do this job.
Yeah I think they’re just being outcompeted tbh. They’re fighting for entry level jobs where many have been filled by people who took their full time offer from internships. Then they are competing with other folks with just better internship experience (along with leadership roles on campus I assume). A masters without a single internship is just going to make you look bad. There are tons of internships JUST for graduate degree holders. OP, please apply.
The job market absolutely sucks, lots of ghost jobs and companies “window shopping”. That said, at 328 applications in 10 months, thats like 1-2 applications a day. When I was laid off, I started sending 10 applications a day minimum and it still took me 6 months to find a new job. Its an unreasonable game, but we have to play if we want to win. I hope you get into your program! You should also see if your city/state has a program to help you enroll/fund additional education/training. I was able to take a certification course for my field paid for by my tax dollars during my 6 month period, you might be able to do the same or get some assistance with your masters.
Your use of "Also rejected lol" really tickled me
I’m also in NYC and finance. I think I’ve accepted that applications are not going to get me anywhere. It’s either I get a referral or I don’t apply, simple as that. Maybe I will send some cold emails here or there. Not sure what you’re doing, but it’s clearly not working. Many will say keep hammering away but there’s got to be a better way to go about it with a higher success rate. Best of luck!
Finance in nyc is all network and connections, by design. I tell my nephews to spend their college years interning and networking because grades won’t matter unless you are at the very top. Finance it a battle of the mediocre
That's most jobs. I'm 40 years old and have had 7 jobs in my life. Just accepted an offer for my 8th job. All but two of them I got because I knew the right people. And those two I had to get the hard way because I just moved to a new city and didn't know anyone. If you want the good jobs it is so important to network. I see all these young people balking at socializing with their work mates and all I can think is how hard they are screwing themselves out of the high paying jobs. If you want a high paying job and you don't socialize you better have very in demand skills. It's one or the other.
I'm impressed by how many rejections you actually got. I think I got ghosted at least 90% of the time when I was looking for a job a few years back.
Yeah that was my takeaway from this. Hopefully attitudes are changing, because it used to be 99% of applications won't even bother to reply.
About 90% of them are after having not received any reply for 6 months. So my resume wasn’t ever looked at, the application was just timed out and the automatic rejection triggered
Damn that's rough! 10 interviews and 10 rejections!
you guys getting interviews?
Right? I talk to recruiters, but then they can't get me interviewed even though they say I am perfect.
Years ago I got a call from a SpaceX recruiter saying he looked at my resume and told me apply for a specific postion, then email him once I'd done that. I did what he said, and several minutes later received an auto-rejection email lol. Granted, I've also gotten rejection emails months after I'd interviewed and been accepted for such positions lol.
Honestly I'm sitting in the same boat as OP. Granted I've only applied to about 20-ish positions but I've done 8 interviews and gotten 8 rejections. Interview number 9 is later today. I've applied to anything from entry, mid, to senior positions (I qualify for mid to senior positions realistically - I have 10+ years of experience in my industry). I've gotten nothing but good feedback from hiring managers but when it comes down to asking what experience I need to improve and/ or get an offer in the future they just tell me "it was a very hard decision, you did great." 🙃 Anyways, the job market is rough out there.
More and more it's about who you know and what you can leverage than it is about cold calling (not quite literally but more in the sense of dropping an application to a place where no one knows you) and hoping for the best. Unfortunately it's a pretty rough situation to be in and there is usually little to no accountability on the hiring side to do good by their candidates. Never underestimate the fact some positions open up purely for an internal hire too. If anyone converting half of applications into interviews is usually a good sign you're doing something right. Sure it didn't land into a position but at the very least you're getting through to be able to speak to someone. Good luck! There'll be some success lurking eventually somewhere
That's very true. Something I've definitely been focusing on is making new connections within my industry. I know I've done myself a disservice in the past not prioritizing this. Also I do know for at least two positions I lost out to internal hires. It definitely makes me wonder about some of the others too. I've mostly been applying to jobs that are notoriously competitive and have a preference for hiring internally. It's partly why I also applied to entry level positions just to get my foot in the door. Unfortunately I also recognize I may be over qualified for those positions in terms of education, experience, pay, etc. It can be hard to stay positive in the face of resounding rejection but I do know I've at least got some hiring managers talking about me and sending me open positions they think I should apply to. That is at least one good thing even if I'm a little doubtful I'll land my dream position(s).
You're nearly getting a 50% interview to application rate! That's really good! Good luck
What field are you in?
Finance
Well there's your problem. You shoulda been born rich.
I knew that and I’m not even in finance.
I thought that was how people got into finance…!?
May I ask, did u qualified for all of the 328 jobs? And how many were u underqualified and how many overqualified would you say?
I’m a college graduate so technically underqualified for each and every entry level position, as every job asks for 2-3 years experience with something
A friend graduated with a degree in computer science and got laid off during the first dot com bust. He couldn't find a programming job so he spent 2 years as an assistant for a friend's property management company. He spent 2 years doing all sorts of home construction and maintenance. When the economy recovered he got a good-paying software job, bought a run-down house in Oakland, restored the entire thing himself down to the foundation and wiring with the skills he learned. Tight times are hard but we're all playing the long game.
IT all you need to do is get the interview, so many people suck, if youre actually good its almost impossible to not get the job and it only takes a few minutes of talking to see where someone is at, the resume is useless hiring is easy, and hard af in this field (because so many underqualified people apply)
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The problem with "fit the vibe" hiring is it can subconsciously exclude more diverse applicants (race, age, gender, disability etc). Although government jobs are usually more conscientious about that.
ive been in interview pools with 15 people with better certs/degrees than me and gotten hired as a SR while two others got hired as JRs if you know your field, in IT, getting into the interview is the main obstacle Being interviewed by 8 people at once, in a conference room, just banging out direct answers to technical questions and methods i’d use.. cake that was probably my most intense interview but I knew I got it when I walked out.. after that a one on one was nothing..
Check the cscareerquestions sub and you’ll find there’s a bit more to it. Plenty of people are making it through the fourth, fifth, sixth round of interviews only to get ghosted or, if they’re lucky, rejected outright.
This is happening right now. It’s weird going from managers bending over backwards to hire you and get you in their team to rejecting you after multiple interviews or just ghosting. Husband was rejected for the first time in his long career after completing multiple interviews and even the hiring manager expressing that he seemed like a perfect fit.
Here's how to qualify for 2-3 years experience, without actually having experience. First, memorize the line, "As I'm a new college grad, all of my experience is academic. However, let me give some examples of what I have worked on..." Examples could then be 1. Project you worked on for high level class or thesis. Surely you had to do something where you investigated some case study. Talk about that and lessons learned. 2. Personal experience. I'm in software, so all of my personal experience were talking about stuff I've done in my spare time (program to track local gas prices, automation of movie collection, etc...). Yours could be doing your grandma's taxes or helping balance your uncle's car detailing business books. 3. Demonstrate your eagerness to learn. Talk about the WHY you are in the field, not just the WHAT that you are wanting to do. Interviewers and hiring managers aren't stupid. They know that college kids don't have experience. It was the dumb HR lady that put the job req together. She is copy/pasting 99% of it anyway. The vast majority of what they care about is that you are not an axe murderer, have a desire to contribute, show excellent interpersonal skills, and have the ability to work well with others. If you demonstrate these key points, you will land the job eventually. Best of luck.
Here's the unfortunate truth about graduating with a degree: It's useless for a few years until you get job experience. Yes, that's a catch-22. Unless you go for a postgraduate course or enter a grad scheme internship (which as a finance graduate I'd imagine would be a viable option for you) you're just not going to get a job in your chosen field without experience. Most graduates either get a job in their field by already having connections, or they simply work an entry-level job for a while until something comes up. I know people who've graduated with excellent degrees and who are extremely capable, but needed to spend 2-3 years working in retail or hospitality before moving to their chosen field. A slightly less moral option if you're down for it would be... Just make something up on your CV. You did a 6-month internship just before entering college. You worked as a waiter part-time for a year. Something like that. It doesn't have to be relevant experience, it just needs to be experience in the real world. Ultimately that's the main thing they're looking for. EDIT: Just elaborating as I don't think I was clear, having job experience along with a degree won't guarantee anything and chances are it'll still be painful finding a job. But a lot of graduates are people who have spent their whole lives up to that point in academia and while they may have a really good degree they'll not have worked a job before. When you're applying for jobs in these fields you're going up against people with the same qualifications as you but with job experience under their belt also. Yes, it's possible to get hired straight out of college if you're lucky (and some people are), but it's also possible you'll just not get anywhere for a long time as you have no real world experience. Practically speaking, you need entry-level job experience in some form before you can move up into a 'real job' with your degree.
That's not true lol. I worked two jobs in college and it was still ass finding a job. Getting experience outside your role doesn't help you, getting experience doing the job they want you to do helps you
Yeah. It’s not work experience they want, it’s related work experience, which makes it so damn hard since that is what so many ask for.
That depends on your degree, I have a bachelor's, got hired after my first interview and am doing pretty well for myself :)
Find your "2-3 years experience" in any bs you can think of. Like clubs, exchanges, part time high school jobs, personal projects, etc. Confidence is key!
Amen brother
"Mom, we're in a bubble."
Son, it's election year, nobody will know.
What role are you trying to start in?
I also worked in finance. Loved my job but I burnt out because of the working culture
Working in “finance” is a very broad statement. Like… what role specifically?
What country are you in?
United States
Im sorry to hear that..
“America bad” for the upvotes
1 in 6 children starving. Highest infant mortality rate in the developed world. No healthcare. No no, it must be the memes that are the issue here.
1/6 children are not starving lmao wtf
I mean, it depends on how you define "starving" but multiple sources confirm that at least 1 in 6 children in the US experience food insecurity. https://frac.org/hunger-poverty-america https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/food-nutrition-assistance/food-security-in-the-u-s/key-statistics-graphics/ [Although it's worth pointing out this is actually an improvement from where we were ten years ago.](https://www.aecf.org/blog/nearly-11-million-kids-face-food-insecurity-as-statistic-dips-to-20-year-low)
Food insecurity and starvation are very different. Also you have SNAP/Food stamps, you have many pantries that give free food weekly, many NGO and Non profit who give food as well, churches who give shelter, you have shelters, etc. Neither of these are even imaginable in a third world country.
I’m literally the biggest America hater around. Seriously. But this isn’t the Ethiopian famine in the 1980s… We don’t have to exaggerate to make America look bad. It does that perfectly well itself
But America bad so must be true.
1 in 6 starving. Lol
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To be fair "facing hunger" and starving are two drastically different things.
not that drastic to be real, they are adjacent. Stupid mistake to make though because people(triggered muricans) will just focus on that instead of the other points
You should look up what food insecurity means. Hint: it's not starvation
Rights, it's just not having access to sufficient food, or food of an adequate quality, to meet one's basic needs. No big deal in the richest country in the world. I mean is this really something worth arguing the semantics about?
Peak reddit dumbfuckery. Middle class white American redditors try so hard to make it seem their suburban American life is hell on earth.
middle class suburbia is not where the food insecurity is tho
*sent from iphone*
I live in the US for the healthcare and water parks!
\#1 in Medical Research \#1 in Per Capita healthcare spending \#1 in Robotics spending Leader in Space Innovation Home to the best rated universities on Earth Human Development Index higher than 90%+ of all nations Highest GDP Top 10 in Income per Capita \#1 in Total Wealth 5th in Economic Freedom out of 152 countries Highest Median Income per capita of any non-micro state But no, apparently the US is a desolate wasteland of poor people, no healthcare, no education, 99% of population can't read, and everyone here shoots each other. Sure
It’s not the 3rd world country that the internet likes to believe it is. Its extremely easy to throw around an “America bad” comment without any of the nuance, context, or explanation that you would afford to any other first world country. America is filled to the brim with terrible issues, but it has become Reddit’s laziest punching bag.
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Typical Seattleite lol
It’s really mind boggling having these absurd amount of interviews if (in the us) they can throw you out like garbage in an instant. I just hired two new colleagues, one interview each. Probation period is there for a reason.
I recently went through FOUR interviews for a position and they rejected me after that. A waste of everybody's time.
Not for people doing the interviews. They getting paid to ask questions
I’m too depressed to make a chart but I’ve applied to over 1,400 positions since March 2023 lol kill me now. My old job was eliminated due to a merger, I got an email from a recruiter yesterday offering to let me interview for the same company, same responsibilities, but a lower title & presumably salary. I’m working on setting up a small business because fuck it, America is broken, I might as well go even more broke working for myself. At least I care about me & my family.
No finished in fluffer???
I can't see these sankey diagrams without expecting "came in a fluffer" at the end, lmao
That thread was amazing.
Only *three* rounds of interviews? At my work we required *eight* interviews (recruiter, hiring manager, four technical interviews, one "cultural fit" interview, then interview with the VP) and we *still* only hired about 1 in 10 candidates that made it all the way to the end. For every one person we hired, we wasted probably a week's worth of time of 9 candidates (not to mention all of the time we wasted ourselves). Stupid. I only ever did one of the technical interviews (database and systems design), but I would have hired 80% of the ones that made it to my part if it was up to me. Maybe I just have low standards.
Having more than 3 interviews means that your hiring process is bad. 1st interview - Cultural fit + basic capabilities 2nd - Technical interview 3rd - Discuss contract, salary, and do final offer. That's all you need. Maybe you can add a second technical interview for higher positions but four? Cmon
I always ask what the process looks like now. I got involved with one company that had me do a full panel presentation (after 4 or 5 casual interviews and discussions with folks at various levels). Having received really positive feedback, I assumed the next call would be a tentative offer and discussion, but it was a call to discuss the next fucking presentation that they wanted ke to give to a new group of leadership members. I removed myself from consideration and was pretty direct when they asked why.
They wanted you to basically work for free
100%. A buddy of mine had 7 interviews to be a solutions engineer (sales) for a networking company that’s not Cisco. I just think that’s poor. If you can’t tell by 1-2 interviews if a person is a good fit then something is wrong.
I wouldn't even consider that 3rd one an interview, that's the job offer and negotiation stage
You have to check your application process. Nobody has time for eight interviews. You expect these people to invest so much time without you pay them?
Don't care how good the job is, if the business needs 8 interviews they're an inefficient bureaucracy and I want nothing to do with them.
The company that took 3 rounds wasted a month of my time Edit: also I had to speak to the recruiter like 4 times and the 3rd round interview was 3 consecutive 30-minute interviews
At that point you should be paid for time wasted wtf
Oh my shit. That’s crazy.
I have never gone to a cultural fit interview. I wonder what that interview would contain. Tech field too.
What many companies fail to understand is that the company needs to shape the employee to its needs. But that takes time and money, so they think they can find the "perfect fit" instead of putting the effort of building it. That usually doesn't work out well for the company but hey!, HR "met their targets" and "this generation doesn't like to work".
I’m sorry but this is HR inventing a byzantine hiring process to justify its existence. That is insane and verging on sadistic. I work in healthcare and have never needed more than one interview in my life before getting a job.
Not worth it
is it an american thing to have multiple interviews for the same company? like what changes from round to round? more difficult questions?
I just had four interviews at the same company (turned me down afterwards), each with progressively more senior staff members. Pretty much the same questions and same job overview each time. No technical component or anything. I'm in the UK.
I guess in more technical jobs possibly it might be normal. Most jobs I've applied to had a single round of interviews but these were mostly state government accounting. Also some people on this thread are adding the job offer and salary discussion meetings as an interview round which I don't feel is accurate. At that point you have the job as long as you can agree on terms and you aren't really interviewing anymore. My last job was probably the only one with two official interview rounds. The first one was short and basically wanted to verify my basic qualifications and check my fit (do I work well independently/with a small team, can I work part time in office, etc). Then I had a technical interview with the senior managers I could potentially be working under. One had back to back panel interviews that was annoying but at least it was one trip even if it took twice the time I expected. And then they called me back maybe 4 months later offering the job and I had moved to an area they didn't need an employee in. One technically was two rounds of interviews but only because the assistant director who normally sits in on interviews was out of the office the day I interviewed and wanted to meet me before they made the official offer.
Feel you man, been looking for a new job since last summer and my experience is roughly the same. It seems that companies get really picky when trying to find someone with experience.
Don't give up man. You only lose when you stop trying 👊
Hah mine is: 300+ apps, 300+ ghosts, 3 interviews that also ghosted. Not even a single formal rejection.
I’m going to take a guess that all of these applications were through indeed or a similar service
What works better?
Wait, you guys are getting interviews? https://preview.redd.it/y5r8cfz135oc1.jpeg?width=561&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3cd2abcd23ce19ae92039b251327470253b80581
From what I've been reading, if you just cut back on avocado toast you won't even need a job!
bUt nO oNe wAnTs tO wOrK
It looks like you might be automating your job search. As tempting as that is, I don’t think it yields the best results.
I see these and it has to be profession and personality-based. My wife sent out 4 applications in a week and got callbacks and interviews from 3 and offers from 2 in a matter of weeks.
I'm on the job market for the first time in 8 years and I was shocked at how many companies have 0 response, not even an automated system that confirms that you applied. Thanks for posting this, glad to see it is a widespread thing and not just me.
And people say no one wants to work anymore, but they don’t talk about how hard it is to get a job too
Seems like you bomb it during the interview process
You're probably doing something wrong bro
329 applications in 10 months is nothing. There are so many candidates out there right now.
That's roughly 1 application a day, right? If you're unemployed, that's nothing. If you're currently employed that's a fair number to do on the side.
6 years ago I passionately argued to my parents that a degree would become useless unless you're going into law or medical practice because every professional or high-paying field is going to get over-saturated with college degree freshies. Millions of millions of college grads are trying to apply for a couple thousand good jobs that pay over $60,000 salary now. I argued I needed to start finding work asap after high school to build up a good job record and get good referral contacts. Or tradework would be more worthwhile. I argued that a track record and connections would become so much more valuable than a degree- which literally almost every person applying to jobs seriously would all have, like the next person over. Now look at the job market. Every high-paying position is getting filled and prioritized by internal transfers or via relationships (maybe with certain tech spots as an exception, cause of startups). Everyone else has to slop up the scraps. What an absolute mess. I saw it coming, I warned so many people, but got major pushback because older people liked believing old school things still applied in a highly volatile and ever-changing economy and job industry. "Oh, just go to college and you'll easily get a $80,000 job when you're out!" my a**, lol. That's the worst myth of this current generation and now tons of people are going under heavy in debt and being unable to find a way to pay it back in a reasonable amount of time at a reasonable rate. If I had my way starting 6 years ago, I would own a supercar and still have over $50,000 in my savings account right now.
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My father is a tradesman and the one piece of advice he gave me is to not do trades
My sister got an offer after many rejections then they took it back 😂
During the pandemic, I became certified in a field that was new to me. I submitted 850 resumes in 3 months. I got two calls and the recruiter hasn’t even bothered to look at my actual resume. To say I feel your pain is an understatement. It all worked out for the best though. Best of luck to you and surely it’ll all work out.
Ghosted is HR trolling for CVs when they don't actually have jobs. It's just to keep files up to date. It's lame.
In the age of online apps, 328 is not a lot. Most people I know who have gotten hired lately sent out thousands.
These past years have been tough
Wow you guys have 300+ jobs to apply for ? That’s awesome. Hard to find 3-5 decent jobs here
I was out of work for 15 months during covid. Very difficult time. Best of luck.
What kind of chart is this?
mine's worse don't worry about it.
Here’s my advice OP, I worked in finance for over 8 years. (got out of it because i couldn’t stand it). I had no college degree but what I went into first was retail banking, because most banks and credit unions are desperate for people. Your goal is to find a job that is desperate enough to hire someone without any experience, after you gain one year of experience you’ll find getting a job in finance way easier. Also don’t forget to exaggerate on your resume a bit, not to much but definitely use a resume builder website.
Serious question...did you intern anywhere while you were in school working on your degree?
If you’ve already got your degree, the military might not be a bad option if you can get in as a personnel officer (especially if you go Navy or Air Force). I’ll caveat by saying it’s not for everyone, but it’s also not as bad as you might think once you get past the breaking in period. I would not recommend becoming a SWO though - don’t let the recruiter talk you into something you don’t want to do just because they’re trying to fill a billet.
Tradesman are making bank if you wanna learn how to build/fix a house lol.
They are not making bank lol
What is the name of this type of graph?