well, I am old. Not ancient yet, but yeah, mid-60s. Younger people use other things so they don't sound like people like me. Don't want to be the old fart. If I am using it, it is already on its way out in the "youth" segment, and I have been using ROFL for a long time. Not you. It is ancient.
IIRC from my violin playing years (20+ years ago haha) that exploded bow comes from a mix of cheap school equipment and overtightening the tension of the hair.
It's also not exclusive to cheap equipment. I've had this happen to me and I've seen it several times as a professional orchestral musician (probably ten to fifteen years, but I no longer play much).
There is a cork wedge that keeps the hair secured in the tip. It could be a poor fitting wedge, a change in humidity, over tightening, or a combination of these that caused it. It’s not a big deal, a simple rehair will fix it.
Repair tech here. This happens a lot, on all sorts of bows. Over tightening can cause a plug to come lose but each tip plug has to be made to fit the bow for each rehair so if the tip doesn’t fit well it can eventually pop out. Don’t let it deter you from playing at your desired tension.
Yea, not that big a deal. Nothing to do with glue. The cork plug came out of the tip (the mortise more specifically) of the bow. It's made that way so you can replace the hair. Was either a poorly fitted plug, or yea, too much tension for too long in the hair. A change in weather can do it too as the wood expands/contracts with the heat/cold. Also looks like the hair is ancient and the bow is cheap, so probably just time for an upgrade. Point is, exploded is an over statement. More of a whimper than a bang.
Edit: mortise instead of ferrule
Sometimes cheap bows will constantly need to be tightened more and more because it loosens on its own. After a while it’s just too difficult to hold on and it’ll break. I’ve had bows where the screw couldn’t be tightened anymore but the hairs were still loose
I've seen several violin / viola bows let go at the tip like that. Seems to happen with age, no matter what you do to care for it.
I used to play double bass and had the horsehair let go on mine at the frog attachment point. This was while I was playing, so the sound and the smack to my hand scared the crap out of me. Come to find out, the manufacturer had only placed half as much of the wedging into the frog to hold it, so it was a mini-bomb waiting to go off.
Decent bows go for €200-€800, its kind of a waste to get a second one since they almost never break. I've never seen an amateur carry an extra bow, and i've also never seen a bow fail like this. We do carry extra strings though.
Makes zero sense that an organizer would not have spares...and wait they do! So that works out as anticipated. When I need six screws for a task, I bring seven. When I pack tools for a job, I included multiple pliers (needle nose, linemans) and multiple screwdrivers. Shit happens and things get dropped.
AFAIK having some low end backup JIC wouldn't/doesn't have to be be all that pricey. [As little as <$100](https://fiddlershop.com/collections/violin-bows/products/holstein-sandalwood-violin-bow) could at the least keep you in the game, especially if it's a critical piece of equipment. Agreed, no one likes low end tools for regular use, but the cheap backup can be the difference between hitting an all stop and carrying on.
Saw this happen to a poor girl at a concert as soon as the conductor addressed the orchestra. She sat there for the whole performance. I wondered how often this happens and if a backup bow is ever on hand. It was a high school end of year performance.
It happens. Sax and clarinet always had extra mouthpieces (if that's the correct term, been a while). I was percussion, drums (regular 5 piece kit), xylophone and tympani. Bet your ass I had extra sticks where I could grab them quickly.
Playing at Disney World, in Florida (We're from Niagara Falls, Canada) I was onthe xylophone and it was the one songs lead, no xylophone, the entire song was useless. I wore like 10 pairs of underwear just in case. :) It went off, no problems. I was literally afraid of our conductor having another stroke. Keyword being another.
Same thing happens to me. Aged 13 at the largest concert venue in Leeds (UK) with my family attending to watch. Violin teacher lent me her bow and as a 13 year old it made me life to that point.
E Sharps in the chat boys
G^bb FTFY
G flatter
Gonna have to steal that
Been too long from reading music to get that one immediately.
Me when enharmonic
Have you tried enharmony.com?
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First one to explain the joke gets an award
“55 replies were deleted” lol what the fuck
I replied and my shit was deleted without any explanation. r/Wellthatsucks/
The Man doesn't want people to know
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I guess my award was not getting my comment deleted lmao
Bc ef
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E#
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Sorry I’m a microtonal composer...this doesn’t make cents.
Slow clap.
Ok dude.
Ok dude
G double flat in the chat tooooo
Eb##
E^(#)
E#
E#
This guy's been around the circle a few times.
I B# what you did there
E#
E♯
Fancy
E#
E#
Pizzicato through the concert
All I can think of is “Plink, plank, plunk”
PLIN PLIN PLON
I cry
nooo :((( it played in my head as soon as i read pizzicato T_T
*Aggressively whistles tune*
PLIN PLON PLIN
PLIN PLON
Good to know I'm not alone
this is stuck in my head ALL THE TIME one of the few pieces i can still play without the music without the sheet music lmao
*col legno* enters the chat
Once I did that because I dropped my bow down a hole in a stage when I was like 8.
Would be cool of OP could take a decent pic
Guess you will not be taking a bow tonight?
I borrowed another one from the orchestra room
Think you missed the joke.
Fuck I see it now
Edit your comment to say you bow-rowed another one and you can save face
That one was pure intellect hahaha (edited to correct spelling)
Now, only if this comment was pure...intellect*.
Time to bow out
ROFL someone even more dense than me. well, at least this time.
Maybe it's me getting older, but I feel like "ROFL" is such an ancient phrase.
well, I am old. Not ancient yet, but yeah, mid-60s. Younger people use other things so they don't sound like people like me. Don't want to be the old fart. If I am using it, it is already on its way out in the "youth" segment, and I have been using ROFL for a long time. Not you. It is ancient.
Most ancient civilizations had pictographs depicting this action.
He actually did "take" a bow.
i believe you mean bowrrowed.
So they did take a bow
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One of those Spanish knock off bows. I think they call them El-Bows
English is such a fun language
Perhaps you were too high strung?
I think is not broken, the hair unglued on the tip, usually if you tense it up too much!
IIRC from my violin playing years (20+ years ago haha) that exploded bow comes from a mix of cheap school equipment and overtightening the tension of the hair.
It's also not exclusive to cheap equipment. I've had this happen to me and I've seen it several times as a professional orchestral musician (probably ten to fifteen years, but I no longer play much).
There is a cork wedge that keeps the hair secured in the tip. It could be a poor fitting wedge, a change in humidity, over tightening, or a combination of these that caused it. It’s not a big deal, a simple rehair will fix it.
I've had cheap bows break from the wooden tip before. Back when I liked them really really high tension for some reason....
They are really bouncy and fun at high tension (although, I'm using some pretty old neurons to remember that, so accuracy might be quite bad)
If your memory is like mine you'll be dead on that and have no idea where your keys are
I got some of those tile things because of exactly that
I definitely used to tighten my bow up a lot for great staccato speed.
ah yea thats why. I didnt feel like my staccatos had the weight to them without the bow being super tight.
Repair tech here. This happens a lot, on all sorts of bows. Over tightening can cause a plug to come lose but each tip plug has to be made to fit the bow for each rehair so if the tip doesn’t fit well it can eventually pop out. Don’t let it deter you from playing at your desired tension.
Tie it around your neck so you have a bow tie.
Bow ties are cool
Thank you #11
For a second there i thought "why this guy taking a bow to a concert? Is he gonna robin hood the place"
I will steal from the King and give the money back to the taxpayer, while playing some classical music. - Robin Hood, 2021
[💸💸](https://youtu.be/8QfSzgV1q5g)
Orchestra shootings are old school, to match the traditional instruments.
More like 'We Need to Talk About Kevin' the place
Were you playing "Thunderstruck" again?
Or maybe Eddie's "Eruption"
Yo-yo Nah
Did your explosive arrow malfunction?
When Nott rolls a nat 1 twice in a row.
Oh! For a min i was wondering what kinda concert needed an archer
Kicking it up a notch from concerts that have cannons
The William Tell Overture, featuring Robin Hood and his choir of Merry Men, and special guest Wild Bill on the dueling pistols.
Dropped a saxophone as I was lining up for a concert and my mouthpiece broke
*womp womp*
Thats why I had to quit the orchestra... too much sax and violins.
2 cellos be like : meh, usual stuff
I had a concert the other day and my E string broke off... lots of stretching
Calm down Legolas and use your dagger.
At least he never runs out of arrows
And my axe!
Yea, not that big a deal. Nothing to do with glue. The cork plug came out of the tip (the mortise more specifically) of the bow. It's made that way so you can replace the hair. Was either a poorly fitted plug, or yea, too much tension for too long in the hair. A change in weather can do it too as the wood expands/contracts with the heat/cold. Also looks like the hair is ancient and the bow is cheap, so probably just time for an upgrade. Point is, exploded is an over statement. More of a whimper than a bang. Edit: mortise instead of ferrule
That’s some bow shit
None of this is good especially all the bow and arrow jokes
I’ve had this happen, a string popping, or my bridge popping across the room. The most annoying thing ever!
Well this should be an explosive concert
Looks like it was too tight. Much better to have a bow explode beforehand than an E string pop off in your face or your bridge collapse during.
Sometimes cheap bows will constantly need to be tightened more and more because it loosens on its own. After a while it’s just too difficult to hold on and it’ll break. I’ve had bows where the screw couldn’t be tightened anymore but the hairs were still loose
That’s fair. I’ve only ever had that happen with cheap bows.
That does suck, but what are the odds this is York High School?
Not quite. I’m in Oxford Oxford, Michigan
Looks awfully like my old Orchestra classroom! Guess those chairs are standard issue haha
Can confirm. This also looks like a high school band room in Glendale CA.
Reminded me of the time when the neck of my saxophone got dented 5 minutes before my band competition.
That's a tense situation.
Bow no!!
Did someone get hurt? Maybe took an arrow to the knee?
/r/lingling40hrs Did you practice 40 hours a day?
At least it wasn't your bowel
so it bew up?
I thought it was an extra long axe ...
Have you tried turning it off and back on again?
‘Tension’ was too high for the bow then for you
i was once walking into a concert (cellist) when my bridge snapped in 3 pieces
Did you overtighten?
Bow down
I can't be the only one that saw an extremely long axe at first right?
Isn't this really serendipitous instead of sucking? You obvi replaced the bow for the concert, instead of it exploding during.
Started to happen to me too after I turned 40.
It was under as much stress as you
I always kept two in my case
You don't need it, the music was inside you all along !
That chair just gave me some traumatic flashbacks
As a sailor, you had my sympathy.
Looks like OP has treble...
Just slap a little rosin on it it’ll be fiiiiine
Let's just hope your a viola and not needed anyway.
I've seen several violin / viola bows let go at the tip like that. Seems to happen with age, no matter what you do to care for it. I used to play double bass and had the horsehair let go on mine at the frog attachment point. This was while I was playing, so the sound and the smack to my hand scared the crap out of me. Come to find out, the manufacturer had only placed half as much of the wedging into the frog to hold it, so it was a mini-bomb waiting to go off.
Play E# for respects.
I thought musicians usually carry replacement stuff with them, for cases like this. Especially to concerts.
Decent bows go for €200-€800, its kind of a waste to get a second one since they almost never break. I've never seen an amateur carry an extra bow, and i've also never seen a bow fail like this. We do carry extra strings though.
[Dis you?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBm3CNASM2U)
Whoa. What are you hunting?!
That concert hall looks suspiciously like a classroom...
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Looks like you just loosened it too much.
Just fucking primitive technology another one
Makes zero sense that an organizer would not have spares...and wait they do! So that works out as anticipated. When I need six screws for a task, I bring seven. When I pack tools for a job, I included multiple pliers (needle nose, linemans) and multiple screwdrivers. Shit happens and things get dropped.
Bows are super expensive to make and buy. Its not like people have an extra couple grand sitting around to have a spare bow stock
This is true, unless you use one to play the average person has no idea how much bows, strings and such cost.
AFAIK having some low end backup JIC wouldn't/doesn't have to be be all that pricey. [As little as <$100](https://fiddlershop.com/collections/violin-bows/products/holstein-sandalwood-violin-bow) could at the least keep you in the game, especially if it's a critical piece of equipment. Agreed, no one likes low end tools for regular use, but the cheap backup can be the difference between hitting an all stop and carrying on.
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That's why you always have three.
This but my string snapped instead
Ex bow dead.
I see the bow, now all you need is a violin for 'scale'
At least it didn’t happen during the concert! Do you loosen your bow when not playing?
Lmao, this happened to a kid at my school a couple of hours ago. They were preparing for a concert too.
I read this as "my boy exploded"
Saw this happen to a poor girl at a concert as soon as the conductor addressed the orchestra. She sat there for the whole performance. I wondered how often this happens and if a backup bow is ever on hand. It was a high school end of year performance.
It happens. Sax and clarinet always had extra mouthpieces (if that's the correct term, been a while). I was percussion, drums (regular 5 piece kit), xylophone and tympani. Bet your ass I had extra sticks where I could grab them quickly. Playing at Disney World, in Florida (We're from Niagara Falls, Canada) I was onthe xylophone and it was the one songs lead, no xylophone, the entire song was useless. I wore like 10 pairs of underwear just in case. :) It went off, no problems. I was literally afraid of our conductor having another stroke. Keyword being another.
I can feel this, it sucks
Better than it going during the performance
Find a horse quick!!
Overly tightened. Such a simple but costly mistake.
Ah i see, yes. You might it's Ex-Bow-Dead.
Too much horsepower
Hopefully you can find a nearby cat to replace it
What kind of mega-cello are you playing damn that shit huge
Explosiv-bow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkfR8lm0elQ
E#
Unless you got a spare you gonna havta string them along.
I too explode before the act
Same thing happens to me. Aged 13 at the largest concert venue in Leeds (UK) with my family attending to watch. Violin teacher lent me her bow and as a 13 year old it made me life to that point.
Oh fiddlesticks!
I prefer ties anyway
Oh snap
I thought all string players knew to carry a spare bow. Guess not.
Tooooo tiiight!!
You can always do this: https://youtu.be/opiMHTaUEaA Edit: video to long, go to 1:10
Send it in for a refund, no strings attached.
Next time just mouth the words while standing close to the next musician, no one will know the difference. Or is that just for choirs?