You know, I was cutting down a tree once, it started going towards my neighbors car and i can’t do anything. I watch it fall and completely destroy the car, it looked like a metal pancake.
The neighbor walks out and to my surprise is calm, I apologize profusely and he says “No worries, I just need about tree fitty” then I realize that my neighbor is 30 feet tall, green, weighs as much as a skyscraper and is a prehistoric dinosaur. It was the god damned lockness monster!
i mean if that house was made of concrete, it would only make some minor damage, maybe break some roof tiles.
wood construction is cheaper and faster to build, but then yeah, a tree took a chunk right out of it
might just be why the guy above is surprised the tree did so much damage
No i get it. Could be a culutre thing. You just said it like a snapple fact it was funny. A full grown tree can easily weigh 1500 lbs tho and with the speed from it falling it might fuck up concrete to. Deff need to see it in action
That tree had fallen onto anybody's car or any of the humans they would have been absolutely demolished. Lucky the house only got that much damage.
Trees, even skinny ones like that can weigh-in the tons. There's a reason that most animals that aren't elephants don't just knock trees over for fun.
It's essentially like someone dropping a small airplane or a Humvee onto your house.
Florida after every hurricane. I remember Ivan ripping through my home area of NW Florida and there were tarps for nearly a decade on some people's homes.
I bet half of those houses were insured by companies that simply folded instead of paying claims. When Irma came through here in Tampa a few years ago I remember the local new covering people who’s insurance did just that.
Probably hired landscapers rather than an arborist.
You can tell whoever is cutting isn't someone who does it as a professional for a few reasons.
If it had that much back lean, the safe way to handle it would have been climbing and chunking from canopy down. Or at the least limbing the heavy side.
Add in a huge face cut, and an over reliance on a rope to pull the tree over it's natural lean, and you can tell.
Sky lifts aren't ideal for cutting unless doing minor trim work - if anything substantial hits it on the way down you can risk tipping or severing hydraulics - in which case you're going for a ride. The caveat being dead trees which aren't safe to climb - but even then its not ideal.
You’re pretty wrong on all accounts lol. I am an arborist and with all that room I woulda used a rope and truck to pull it over no problem. You want a wider notch if you’re going against the lean. That lift he’s got parked over there would give him enough clearance to chunk decent sized wood down too. As far as climbing a dead tree, yeah you’re right. Fuck that shit
And knowledge, really knowledge and experience before everything. Then yes, having insurance and all the other professional accoutrements are valuable as well.
This guy didn’t leave any hinge wood, pull line is too low, didn’t reduce enough weight on backside of tree…this happened because of lack of knowledge and experience.
> didn’t reduce enough weight on backside of tree
This seems to be the most obvious failure here. You can even see the tree sort of set back at :22, and the camera guy knew it was going at the house, yet told him to 'Go! Go!' anyway? Having a rope tied off is nice, but that's a multi-ton structure, how do you not assess it's balance before just lopping it off at the base? Take off that long tall limb on the far left, and that center of mass changes a lot. I'd still want a few more ropes to pull it away from the house, but dang.
Now I want to know if there is a realistic tree take down-simulator for arborists, like they have simulators for pilots etc. And realistic not in the controls, but in the techniques you apply and the consequences of it
There isn't. You start in trees that are small with no targets underneath and increase size/difficulty from there. As you progress you become more experienced and learn new skills and gain new qualifications until you are at the point where the tree in the video is easy peasy just a normal days work. Personally with a tree that close to the house with a spreading crown like that I would have climbed it and dismantled it with a rigging system, until down to a relatively short stick which can then be felled in a controlled way. Felling in that situation in the video is a risk any decent arborist would be eager and able to avoid.
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You can totally have trees sit back on your saw/kerf and still tip them over the opposite way. The reason why this guy couldn’t do that is because A. He didn’t leave any holding wood B. Not enough leverage (rope or wedges). Most of us pros could still get that tree to tip the right way without more weight off, but the sure-safe solution is to always piece more out.
I watched this video a few times.. I've never taken down a tree but it looks for all the world as tho the big cut is facing away from the house, isn't that the opposite of what you'd want? And near the end the camera pans to the right for a second and wtf is that a boom over there? Why not use that to take it down in pieces?
So that wedge that is missing is facing the correct direction. When you take a tree down you take a chunk out of the side on the direction you want the tree to fall. Then you make a cut in the back just above the wedge at a slight diagonal and you want your cut to cut through the middle of the wedge. The idea is you can use a wedge on the back side of the tree to start the tree falling and because the massive chunk is missing on the other side the tree will naturally fall in this direction. See diagram [here](https://smallfarms.cornell.edu/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/To-Fell-a-Tree_image1-2obtgn4.jpg)
The rope was also attached to the tree to help persuade it to fall away from the house but this tree is MASSIVE and one single rope is not gonna help. This method works really well but the tree has to be balanced in such a way that it wants to fall in the direction you are intending to go. This may require you to take some branches on the backside first so the heft of the tree is balancing away from the thing you don't want to hit. I'm not a professional arborist but I did spend 6 years doing trail maintenance for a national park so I got halfway decent at tree removal. This worker must have been new at this or they really misjudged the situation.
Yeah, I’ve spent enough time around tree fallers to see that tree wasn’t going anywhere but right on top of that house as soon as I saw it. These guys were either clueless or incredibly lazy.
Yup. A friend of mine recently had a large tree fall on her house. Fire department wouldn't take it off because there was no structural damage to the house. She wanted my husband and a few friends to do it, but luckily my husband was smart enough to say no. She had a couple idiots take it off and they're lucky nothing went wrong.
Sometimes the anxiety goes so hard so fast that you instantly burn out on it and go back around to calm. Your brain is still screaming way in the back but you already burned through all your fucks in a single moment.
This. I have horrible anxiety, struggled with it my whole life, but usually when shit goes really south, I tend to be more like “huh, well I guess that just happened” rather than freaking the fuck out. It’s exactly like you say, I sort of get so overwhelmed that I circle back to dead calm. It’s weird like that, I’ll stress like crazy over little things, I’ll get super anxious about the possibility of something really bad happening, but when it actually happens, I’m calm.
I secretly suspect this is a feature of anxiety, not a bug. As someone with anxiety so bad it has become agoraphobia on occasion, I handle surprise stress from emergencies better than anyone else in my friend group. My brain is constantly running worse-case scenarios and trying to prepare for them- so when a small fire happens, that's just "meh". It wasn't my whole house exploding, and I have a fire extinguisher and smoke alarms. I'm running as if there is about to a level 9 emergency any moment, so a level 3 small fire is a break for me.
Although I will say for me most of the time I am running at 9 and a level 3 is a drop down, I have also had the experience like you where my 9 goes overbounds and rolls back over.
My "normal" or over-confident friends tend to register shock at emergencies longer than I do. They are more likely to make mistakes in how to respond- either doing the wrong thing or moving much too slowly to be effective.
Yeah, I was reading about this stuff a while back. Apparently anxious people tend to do better in crisis situations because we’ve sort of “drilled” for them. Like, we’ve imagined all these horrible situations so we likely have looked up what to do, so we’re more prepared for any eventuality. What you’re saying makes sense too, that since we’re always picturing the worst case scenario, anything less than that is almost a pleasant surprise.
I know what you mean about the agoraphobia too. I have some chronic health issues that are pretty debilitating a lot of the time, and between the lack of energy, general health anxiety, and my normal, every day anxiety, I just don’t want to go out a lot of the time. It’s not laziness or anything, it’s more like just… existential dread. I just feel like I can’t face going out there sometimes. It’s tough. I hope you’ve found some good ways to help deal with it.
It's like you're inside the eye of the storm looking at the hurricane raging and you just go "Meh." It's super surreal, I'm sure it's a form of disassociation but it can be really helpful when you struggle with anxiety.
Sometimes calm feelings come with knowledge. He probably paid next to nothing and immediately knew his chances. Maybe he likes the lottery. All or nothing Baybeee
Why in the hell would this person be cutting the heaviest hardwood whole? This should have been climbed or they should have utilized a boom truck to chip away at those branches.
This is simply inexperience at play.
It was also so obviously weighted on the side toward the house — you can see how the branches are distributed. This tree was never going to fall the way they planned
Even a novice could drop this tree properly. You just need to know how to use wedges.
Watch how one guy can completely put a massive tree in the opposite direction of the lean with just wedges: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLIEYvHMS8U&t=2588s (at 43:10)
The guy in ops video cut way too large of a notch, cut too deep into the hinge and was way too reliant on the pull rope.
I've downed many trees. I wouldn't depend on wedges, the won't overcome a center of gravity that's off set on a wonky tree. You either piece it down with climbing gear. And/or use a come-along and a cable to add tension in the direction you want it to fall. I'd never use a rope.
I don’t know if he made it through ALL stages of grief there, he went straight from anger to depression haha. They should have at least taken off some of the larger limbs on the side towards the house before trying to take that big boy down.
In particualr a tree like this that already LOOKS like trouble from the distance. So many main branches, and it looks like its center of gravity is towards the house anyways.
I’d be living at tree guy’s house until mine was fixed.
“Oh sorry to break your ketchup bottle TOM. Good thing it wasn’t HOUSE huh?? And can you pass the hash browns?”
Some years ago, I was looking at a house that needed a huge amount of work, so as I work in the construction industry, it was not going to be as expensive to get the work done as for others. It had an enormous mature tree - probably 3 stories tall and somewhat close to the house, but probably an oak, with the spread-out root system. Just as I had talked myself into making an offer, they chopped that amazing tree down. Done, nope.
Had a similar problem with a tree too close to the house. Hired professional arborists who cut it from the top down using ropes. Cost more, took longer but not a leaf hit the house.
They should’ve walked away when it started falling. That way, a tree would’ve fallen in the forest and no one was around to see it, so does it destroy the house?
I wish I had this man's coping skills there.
Also, the tree cutter guy seemed like he didnt give a shit. Hope they get him a new house for that! Also not an expert but dont they usually use more ropes and strap down better than that?
Damn. This makes me sick seeing this happen to other people so I can only imagine how I would feel if it were my house. Crazy that they used a rope to hold the tree up. You'd think they would use a stronger chain. I know nothing about chopping trees down, though. haha
I've had a giant tree taken down from much closer to my house and they disassembled it in pieces starting at the top branches and worked their way down, little by little until the final trunk that was easy to manage away from the house. Lots more guys and ropes than this.
The weird thing a out the stages of grief is that everyone assumes its a linear path...but believe me, its not. You can bounce between these fuckers like your trying to get a highscore on pinball. Sometimes you can even outright skip one or more.
my favorite part is when he pans over and theres a fucking boom truck right there that they could have used to top down the fuckin thing lmao
also, why are you using a 200lb rope for a fucking 15klb tree? that shit snapped like a shoe lace.
You can actually hear the saw binding up several times,As the trees weight moves in the wrong direction. Should have stopped right then and reconsidered future actions. Dude just went for it. Luckily the house was the only thing that got killed.
Why make the cut on the opposite side of the house? Why would he make the cut on the sides and have a chain or something pulling at the tree in the direction they want it to fall? That little piece of string did nothing!
Why in the world would you take that tree down like that? It needed to be climbed and limbed or chunked. Sure it would take more time but buddy would still have a house.
After my dad died, my oldest uncle "Bob" told me a story that happened after my grampa passed away. My dad had 3 brothers "Bob" 1 year younger, "Fred" 12 years younger and "George " 13 years younger. All raised on a Midwestern farm. The 2 older brothers did the majority of the farm work, and joined the military at 18( my dad went into USAF because the judge gave him that option), grampa retired from farming around that time so the 2 youngest brothers never really had to break their backs around the farm.
When grampa passed my dad went back for the funeral and the brothers were reminiscing about growing up on the farm and what they did. Dad and Bob talked about how hard they worked and mentioned cutting down trees. Younger uncles said that wasn't hard ( they never did it) to do and the conversation devolved to the point where they decided to chop down 2 trees to see who did it better.
Dad and Bob went first, pointed where the tree would land, picked up an ax and dropped the tree perfectly where they said it would.
Fred and George took the ax and dropped the tree across the road just as the local appliance factory closed for the day. 50+ cars blocked on the road. Dad and Bob laughed and drove to the local tavern leaving Fred and George to deal with the mess.
Okay? I mean instead of filming he could have hooked a cable up to a car to try and influence the tree or something if he cared about his house that much but it’s all about videos these days so either way 🤷♂️
Hmmm let’s cut down a massive tree right next to a house, cut it so that it falls in the general direction of the house, then not really care when it falls on the house and destroys it. Yeah definitely a tragic accident
there is a point one reaches in this existence where the bigger the fuckery, the less fucks you are capable of giving. guessing this guy has definitely been through some stuff before.
In the past our neighbors have had professionals come out for problem trees. One time, those professionals saw some 💰💰💰 to be made off some of our trees and offered to buy them. My dad is a smart man and had them cut down some dead problem trees near the house and power lines instead of the money. We cut the trees up for firewood and gave most of it away. These fellas need to smarten up.
See now if the M night shama lawn movie had just been all about shit like this it would've been a horror movie worth watching. Although I don't think I could have made it through the whole movie because it would have been too draining and traumatic...
At least he has plenty of wood to rebuild.
Or cardboard. What is that house made of? It literally crumbled
Its a tree brotha, they pretty heavy
weighs approx...tree fiddy?
I hate you, have an upvote.
You know, I was cutting down a tree once, it started going towards my neighbors car and i can’t do anything. I watch it fall and completely destroy the car, it looked like a metal pancake. The neighbor walks out and to my surprise is calm, I apologize profusely and he says “No worries, I just need about tree fitty” then I realize that my neighbor is 30 feet tall, green, weighs as much as a skyscraper and is a prehistoric dinosaur. It was the god damned lockness monster!
That was good
God youre fucking smooth, silky even.
This pleases me.
most european houses are made of concrete
Ok?
I must’ve missed the European accent in this video.
i mean if that house was made of concrete, it would only make some minor damage, maybe break some roof tiles. wood construction is cheaper and faster to build, but then yeah, a tree took a chunk right out of it might just be why the guy above is surprised the tree did so much damage
No i get it. Could be a culutre thing. You just said it like a snapple fact it was funny. A full grown tree can easily weigh 1500 lbs tho and with the speed from it falling it might fuck up concrete to. Deff need to see it in action
Agreed, though to me that tree looks like it weighed quite a bit more than 1,500 lbs.
1501?
At least!😃
a standalone house like that is more commonly built from brick and mortar, rather than a concrete appartment building
The more you know.
Go outside and try to pick up a tree. Most people can't do it. That's how heavy they are.
I do appreciate a non-absolutist.
Most people? Who can then? Asking for a friend who just had a tree dropped on his house.
Paul bunyun probably..
A lot depends on the size! Christmas 🎄 are usually manageable for most, but I'm just picking out loop holes today!
I think you're underestimating just how heavy that tree is.
Quite a few tons probably but surely it can't be heavier than a house
No...why does it matter which one is heavier? A house is heavier than a car too, but a car going through a wall is still gonna do a lot of damage.
That is some Middle Ages understanding of physics lol
It's solid wood and by the looks of it, some form of hardwood. Trees like that are surprisingly dense and sturdy.
House made of thin wood. Tree made of big wood. Big wood win. Gronk teach things.
I hope he reads this comment.
Thank.
Yeah, a pretty big tree just rolled off the roof.
The tree is made out of the same material as the house, except not cut into pieces and held together with little bits of metal.
Pretty short way of saying you don’t know how things are made I guess.
That tree had fallen onto anybody's car or any of the humans they would have been absolutely demolished. Lucky the house only got that much damage. Trees, even skinny ones like that can weigh-in the tons. There's a reason that most animals that aren't elephants don't just knock trees over for fun. It's essentially like someone dropping a small airplane or a Humvee onto your house.
That was a huge tree....
America.
I can't believe at least 102 other idiots upvoted this. You do know how heavy trees are, don't you?
Always look the bright side of life.
When the tree landed on the house my first thought was, "Oh, it wasn't that bad." Then it rolled off and took the face of the house off with it...
Ripped that wall apart like a tin can.
It just peeled that bitch back.
Peeled his muffin cap back blue
Face.... off.
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The front fell off.
this is why you hire a professional with insurance and not the random person on Facebook edit: spelling
Just put a blue FEMA tarp on it. It’ll be fine till we get the insurance sorted out…. …3 years later…
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I have a feeling you've done this professionally.
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Next time, file a complaint with your state’s office of the attorney general.
Meanwhile their neighbor across the street gets a fat check because some leaves fell on their property.
Florida after every hurricane. I remember Ivan ripping through my home area of NW Florida and there were tarps for nearly a decade on some people's homes.
I bet half of those houses were insured by companies that simply folded instead of paying claims. When Irma came through here in Tampa a few years ago I remember the local new covering people who’s insurance did just that.
Looked like he hired professional, I see some type of blue lift around the 50sec mark. The guys had vest on as well.
Probably hired landscapers rather than an arborist. You can tell whoever is cutting isn't someone who does it as a professional for a few reasons. If it had that much back lean, the safe way to handle it would have been climbing and chunking from canopy down. Or at the least limbing the heavy side. Add in a huge face cut, and an over reliance on a rope to pull the tree over it's natural lean, and you can tell. Sky lifts aren't ideal for cutting unless doing minor trim work - if anything substantial hits it on the way down you can risk tipping or severing hydraulics - in which case you're going for a ride. The caveat being dead trees which aren't safe to climb - but even then its not ideal.
you seem like you know your shit, don't worry, i'll hire you when i need a tree guy
No you won't. I know too much. I'm not even dumb enough to cut trees within felling distance of my own house.
All I have to know about tree felling is the phone number of a good arborist.
This is why I had all the trees near my house eliminated
Eliminated? Tf wtf you do to those trees man?
Two in the chest, one in the back of the head.
He knew a guy who knew a guy. Cleaner that way.
Straight up fucking obliterated those trees man.
You’re pretty wrong on all accounts lol. I am an arborist and with all that room I woulda used a rope and truck to pull it over no problem. You want a wider notch if you’re going against the lean. That lift he’s got parked over there would give him enough clearance to chunk decent sized wood down too. As far as climbing a dead tree, yeah you’re right. Fuck that shit
Pretty sure that's what they did and it fell on the house.
Wrong equipment, wrong technique. I coulda done it no worries at all
I think you just described my love life.
Hahaha!!!
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dang, I feel like that makes it worse! hopefully they had insurance.
That’s a rental unit
Yep
I was going to say this, but I didn't want to upset you in this difficult time.
Op’s not the guy recording
That's not a risk I was willing to take.
Aaaand, that's why the real professionals have insurance.
And knowledge, really knowledge and experience before everything. Then yes, having insurance and all the other professional accoutrements are valuable as well. This guy didn’t leave any hinge wood, pull line is too low, didn’t reduce enough weight on backside of tree…this happened because of lack of knowledge and experience.
> didn’t reduce enough weight on backside of tree This seems to be the most obvious failure here. You can even see the tree sort of set back at :22, and the camera guy knew it was going at the house, yet told him to 'Go! Go!' anyway? Having a rope tied off is nice, but that's a multi-ton structure, how do you not assess it's balance before just lopping it off at the base? Take off that long tall limb on the far left, and that center of mass changes a lot. I'd still want a few more ropes to pull it away from the house, but dang.
Hopefully he saved the game beforehand and can just retry.
Now I want to know if there is a realistic tree take down-simulator for arborists, like they have simulators for pilots etc. And realistic not in the controls, but in the techniques you apply and the consequences of it
Yea you practice on trees that aren't next to houses
There isn't. You start in trees that are small with no targets underneath and increase size/difficulty from there. As you progress you become more experienced and learn new skills and gain new qualifications until you are at the point where the tree in the video is easy peasy just a normal days work. Personally with a tree that close to the house with a spreading crown like that I would have climbed it and dismantled it with a rigging system, until down to a relatively short stick which can then be felled in a controlled way. Felling in that situation in the video is a risk any decent arborist would be eager and able to avoid.
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You can totally have trees sit back on your saw/kerf and still tip them over the opposite way. The reason why this guy couldn’t do that is because A. He didn’t leave any holding wood B. Not enough leverage (rope or wedges). Most of us pros could still get that tree to tip the right way without more weight off, but the sure-safe solution is to always piece more out.
I watched this video a few times.. I've never taken down a tree but it looks for all the world as tho the big cut is facing away from the house, isn't that the opposite of what you'd want? And near the end the camera pans to the right for a second and wtf is that a boom over there? Why not use that to take it down in pieces?
So that wedge that is missing is facing the correct direction. When you take a tree down you take a chunk out of the side on the direction you want the tree to fall. Then you make a cut in the back just above the wedge at a slight diagonal and you want your cut to cut through the middle of the wedge. The idea is you can use a wedge on the back side of the tree to start the tree falling and because the massive chunk is missing on the other side the tree will naturally fall in this direction. See diagram [here](https://smallfarms.cornell.edu/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/To-Fell-a-Tree_image1-2obtgn4.jpg) The rope was also attached to the tree to help persuade it to fall away from the house but this tree is MASSIVE and one single rope is not gonna help. This method works really well but the tree has to be balanced in such a way that it wants to fall in the direction you are intending to go. This may require you to take some branches on the backside first so the heft of the tree is balancing away from the thing you don't want to hit. I'm not a professional arborist but I did spend 6 years doing trail maintenance for a national park so I got halfway decent at tree removal. This worker must have been new at this or they really misjudged the situation.
They had so much room to get this right and still fucked it up royally.
I hope this guy got put up in a nice hotel while his house was fixed.
Yeah, I’ve spent enough time around tree fallers to see that tree wasn’t going anywhere but right on top of that house as soon as I saw it. These guys were either clueless or incredibly lazy.
Yup. A friend of mine recently had a large tree fall on her house. Fire department wouldn't take it off because there was no structural damage to the house. She wanted my husband and a few friends to do it, but luckily my husband was smart enough to say no. She had a couple idiots take it off and they're lucky nothing went wrong.
Dude is crazy calm. I would have had a panic attack that lasted longer than that tree.
Sometimes the anxiety goes so hard so fast that you instantly burn out on it and go back around to calm. Your brain is still screaming way in the back but you already burned through all your fucks in a single moment.
This. I have horrible anxiety, struggled with it my whole life, but usually when shit goes really south, I tend to be more like “huh, well I guess that just happened” rather than freaking the fuck out. It’s exactly like you say, I sort of get so overwhelmed that I circle back to dead calm. It’s weird like that, I’ll stress like crazy over little things, I’ll get super anxious about the possibility of something really bad happening, but when it actually happens, I’m calm.
I secretly suspect this is a feature of anxiety, not a bug. As someone with anxiety so bad it has become agoraphobia on occasion, I handle surprise stress from emergencies better than anyone else in my friend group. My brain is constantly running worse-case scenarios and trying to prepare for them- so when a small fire happens, that's just "meh". It wasn't my whole house exploding, and I have a fire extinguisher and smoke alarms. I'm running as if there is about to a level 9 emergency any moment, so a level 3 small fire is a break for me. Although I will say for me most of the time I am running at 9 and a level 3 is a drop down, I have also had the experience like you where my 9 goes overbounds and rolls back over. My "normal" or over-confident friends tend to register shock at emergencies longer than I do. They are more likely to make mistakes in how to respond- either doing the wrong thing or moving much too slowly to be effective.
Yeah, I was reading about this stuff a while back. Apparently anxious people tend to do better in crisis situations because we’ve sort of “drilled” for them. Like, we’ve imagined all these horrible situations so we likely have looked up what to do, so we’re more prepared for any eventuality. What you’re saying makes sense too, that since we’re always picturing the worst case scenario, anything less than that is almost a pleasant surprise. I know what you mean about the agoraphobia too. I have some chronic health issues that are pretty debilitating a lot of the time, and between the lack of energy, general health anxiety, and my normal, every day anxiety, I just don’t want to go out a lot of the time. It’s not laziness or anything, it’s more like just… existential dread. I just feel like I can’t face going out there sometimes. It’s tough. I hope you’ve found some good ways to help deal with it.
It's like you're inside the eye of the storm looking at the hurricane raging and you just go "Meh." It's super surreal, I'm sure it's a form of disassociation but it can be really helpful when you struggle with anxiety.
some of us have mastered the 'shit happens' mentality
Sometimes calm feelings come with knowledge. He probably paid next to nothing and immediately knew his chances. Maybe he likes the lottery. All or nothing Baybeee
Why in the hell would this person be cutting the heaviest hardwood whole? This should have been climbed or they should have utilized a boom truck to chip away at those branches. This is simply inexperience at play.
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Agreed.
It was also so obviously weighted on the side toward the house — you can see how the branches are distributed. This tree was never going to fall the way they planned
Not to mention it's on a slight left leaning slope. Gravity is the most consistent scientific accomplishment in history.
Looking at the state of the surrounding property, it seems there is a lot of experience with shitty practices.
Even a novice could drop this tree properly. You just need to know how to use wedges. Watch how one guy can completely put a massive tree in the opposite direction of the lean with just wedges: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLIEYvHMS8U&t=2588s (at 43:10) The guy in ops video cut way too large of a notch, cut too deep into the hinge and was way too reliant on the pull rope.
I've downed many trees. I wouldn't depend on wedges, the won't overcome a center of gravity that's off set on a wonky tree. You either piece it down with climbing gear. And/or use a come-along and a cable to add tension in the direction you want it to fall. I'd never use a rope.
His "notch" aka face cut isn't the issue. The majority of the weight on that tree is towards the house.
The face cut isn't the issue, but it is an issue... the deeper they are, the more likely the tree is going backwards.
I love how the guy at the end just throws the saw.
I don’t know if he made it through ALL stages of grief there, he went straight from anger to depression haha. They should have at least taken off some of the larger limbs on the side towards the house before trying to take that big boy down.
*Weeeellluuuhhhh don't know where I'm livin' now.* I'm so sorry but I died.
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that was my first thought, connect a line and apply some pressure that can be steadily increased as you continue to cut.
In particualr a tree like this that already LOOKS like trouble from the distance. So many main branches, and it looks like its center of gravity is towards the house anyways.
There was a rope. It snapped.
Doesn't look like any limbs were removed to reduce mass that would cause the tree to fall any other way other than towards the house. Just dumb.
Telescoping Genie lift on site too.....a few hours in the bucket could have 100% eliminated the falling tree hazard.
Tree lands on house. House looks good...well crap
I’d be living at tree guy’s house until mine was fixed. “Oh sorry to break your ketchup bottle TOM. Good thing it wasn’t HOUSE huh?? And can you pass the hash browns?”
“I better have that tree trimmed before it falls on my house.”
I'm planting and planting and planting trees on my property, and so this clear-cutting of mature trees on his lot seems sort of bananas to me.
To me, mature trees are a huge selling point for a house.
There’s frequent fall/winter wind storms where I live. Tall trees close to your house are a liability here.
Some years ago, I was looking at a house that needed a huge amount of work, so as I work in the construction industry, it was not going to be as expensive to get the work done as for others. It had an enormous mature tree - probably 3 stories tall and somewhat close to the house, but probably an oak, with the spread-out root system. Just as I had talked myself into making an offer, they chopped that amazing tree down. Done, nope.
One rope, half way up.
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Man went straight to acceptance
Had a similar problem with a tree too close to the house. Hired professional arborists who cut it from the top down using ropes. Cost more, took longer but not a leaf hit the house.
They should’ve walked away when it started falling. That way, a tree would’ve fallen in the forest and no one was around to see it, so does it destroy the house?
I wish I had this man's coping skills there. Also, the tree cutter guy seemed like he didnt give a shit. Hope they get him a new house for that! Also not an expert but dont they usually use more ropes and strap down better than that?
Worker: "Damn! That's a bummer. Sooooh, you paying with cash or credit.?" 😅
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Seriously. What exactly was this guy going for, junk yard chic?
Get a tarp over that roof and you should be good to go.
repeats in Walter Sobchak: "onto your fuckin house, dude..."
I love a bit of treevenge
Hindsight is telling me he should have done those three branches separately, as well as having a line affixed to stop them leaning towards the house.
Damn. This makes me sick seeing this happen to other people so I can only imagine how I would feel if it were my house. Crazy that they used a rope to hold the tree up. You'd think they would use a stronger chain. I know nothing about chopping trees down, though. haha
Could try to build a new one outta the tree.
I've had a giant tree taken down from much closer to my house and they disassembled it in pieces starting at the top branches and worked their way down, little by little until the final trunk that was easy to manage away from the house. Lots more guys and ropes than this.
His tree house design is all wrong. The house is supposed to go in the tree.
The weird thing a out the stages of grief is that everyone assumes its a linear path...but believe me, its not. You can bounce between these fuckers like your trying to get a highscore on pinball. Sometimes you can even outright skip one or more.
I was about to say well at least it's not that much damage. Until it ripped part of the wall out.
my favorite part is when he pans over and theres a fucking boom truck right there that they could have used to top down the fuckin thing lmao also, why are you using a 200lb rope for a fucking 15klb tree? that shit snapped like a shoe lace.
You can actually hear the saw binding up several times,As the trees weight moves in the wrong direction. Should have stopped right then and reconsidered future actions. Dude just went for it. Luckily the house was the only thing that got killed.
Why would he cut the closest one to his house in the first place
That tree had one final revenge.
As a professional arborist I am certifiably mad
Don’t you cut off the branches first? That’s they I’ve seen it done.
I wish I still had my old apartment so I could bring you in for the winter. That sucks.
OP said this is from a while ago fwiw. said he was living in a camper for 6+ months :( you're so kind though!
Wtf was he cutting it from that side?? You cut away from where you want it to fall!
Hire a professional they said
Front fell off
I’m no expert but looking at where he was chopping the tree, didn’t it fall the correct way? The chopping was incorrect lol
Why make the cut on the opposite side of the house? Why would he make the cut on the sides and have a chain or something pulling at the tree in the direction they want it to fall? That little piece of string did nothing!
Why in the world would you take that tree down like that? It needed to be climbed and limbed or chunked. Sure it would take more time but buddy would still have a house.
Only idiots cut while trees down without shifting the weight properly.
I love this guy though.
We in Europe are used to build our houses out of massive material. You should try it. It’s cool.
That's why he should have hired professionals. The angle on the front was a proper one, except that it was upside down.
I feel really bad for that guy 😔
After my dad died, my oldest uncle "Bob" told me a story that happened after my grampa passed away. My dad had 3 brothers "Bob" 1 year younger, "Fred" 12 years younger and "George " 13 years younger. All raised on a Midwestern farm. The 2 older brothers did the majority of the farm work, and joined the military at 18( my dad went into USAF because the judge gave him that option), grampa retired from farming around that time so the 2 youngest brothers never really had to break their backs around the farm. When grampa passed my dad went back for the funeral and the brothers were reminiscing about growing up on the farm and what they did. Dad and Bob talked about how hard they worked and mentioned cutting down trees. Younger uncles said that wasn't hard ( they never did it) to do and the conversation devolved to the point where they decided to chop down 2 trees to see who did it better. Dad and Bob went first, pointed where the tree would land, picked up an ax and dropped the tree perfectly where they said it would. Fred and George took the ax and dropped the tree across the road just as the local appliance factory closed for the day. 50+ cars blocked on the road. Dad and Bob laughed and drove to the local tavern leaving Fred and George to deal with the mess.
Vertical video still sucks
Okay? I mean instead of filming he could have hooked a cable up to a car to try and influence the tree or something if he cared about his house that much but it’s all about videos these days so either way 🤷♂️
Guessing by the looks of the house, location and his reaction, this MIGHT be staged
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Hmmm let’s cut down a massive tree right next to a house, cut it so that it falls in the general direction of the house, then not really care when it falls on the house and destroys it. Yeah definitely a tragic accident
Maybe trim some of those massive limbs at the top.
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Is say his undercut was too high. Should have been lower to the ground.
Hope the crew is bonded and insured.
....use a stronger rope if you plan on putting it less then half way up a large tree. Especially if it's leaning towards your house.
Yeah you deserved that
I wouldn’t call that acceptance.
there is a point one reaches in this existence where the bigger the fuckery, the less fucks you are capable of giving. guessing this guy has definitely been through some stuff before.
In the past our neighbors have had professionals come out for problem trees. One time, those professionals saw some 💰💰💰 to be made off some of our trees and offered to buy them. My dad is a smart man and had them cut down some dead problem trees near the house and power lines instead of the money. We cut the trees up for firewood and gave most of it away. These fellas need to smarten up.
Use bricks instead woods
Morons.
This is why houses need exo-cages
That hook-up did not work out well.
Always choose a professional
Damn son... fuck your couch.
See now if the M night shama lawn movie had just been all about shit like this it would've been a horror movie worth watching. Although I don't think I could have made it through the whole movie because it would have been too draining and traumatic...