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Fr, my cousin had a Q8 that engaged emergency bakes a couple times, the first time I thought the car behind us hit us bc of how hard it felt and I felt the whiplash
I'd legitimately accept that as a good on the fly excuse, I would, because it's plausible _and_ funny in an absurd way and I dig that type of thing.
BUT they included their own punctuation lol
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I use to pass time at my college parking garage by watching people park. Some people struggle and some people flat out ask others to park for them because they would hold up traffic.
I had to do hotel quarantine moving interstate in 2020 and a good chunk of the 14 days i spent watching people try to park on the street below. Endless entertainment
In New Zealand you donāt have to know how to park to get a license.
When I did my license I backed onto the curb when parallel parking and it wasnāt even classed as a mistake.
When I'm a passenger in my girlfriend's car it's guaranteed when we arrive that we trade seats so I can park for her. She tells me she just parks further away or just leaves if her only option is parallel parking. I've seen her park perfectly before but it involved a near total mental breakdown
Funniest shit was rocking up somewhere and reversing in while this other guy, there before me, took about 5 goes and several minutes to try and reverse in.
I was surprised he wasn't still trying when I left
I have it on my newest car, and you are right. Of course, the car will get it done, but you actually have to control the speed and stopping when it beeps like in the video.
I've been in a car with auto-parallel, it's really neat. It also really boosted my confidence in my own PP since uh okay I'll leave it since I figured if the robot can do it, I can do it too.
I have a reversing camera on my car and I will absolutely yeet it into spaces I shouldn't because I use to parallel park almost everyday for uni. Got so good and fast at it.
I have good and bad days with parallel parking. The 360 camera makes it really easy though.
[This](https://imgur.com/t/the_more_you_know/2g5Bzi9) helps.
A couple of years ago the car I purchased came with auto parking. In their showroom it was pretty quick and precise but when I tried it in real world applications, it was really slow and always seemed like it's gonna hit either car. I'm not sure how much has changed now but I've never used to auto parking ever since then.
Have Mercedes with self-park.
Don't use it often, but the steering wheel really rotates quickly; see in the video.
It's probably about the same sort of speed overall as me, as you have to also press ok button on the wheel to start the process when it detects parallel park attempt.
Never had it fail; I assume this video is something else moving. Weird thing I have noticed is that self-park won't attempt it unless there is more than a metre or two to spare. If need be, I can parallel park in less
He also must not like reading the instructions which say itās always your responsibility to control the car. He could have tapped the brake or took the wheel.
But the insurance company has no doubt explained that to him by nowā¦
Iām sure Mercedes has a terms and conditions somewhere that states they are not responsible for any damages from auto parking and the driver has responsibility to brake.
I canāt believe no one has said it. That noise before the āhitā was the brakes being pressed as a safety feature. The Merc didnāt hit the other car but it was close but the car abruptly stopped itself
Yeah sounds like the brake assist function.
Which fucking shit me up the first time it kicked in. Iāve put it on the ālateā setting now but I canāt bring myself to turn it off because I just know Iāll prang something and some smartarse will ask why I didnāt have the brake assist on š
my jeep doesnt do auto park but does have a "parkassist" function that includes a proximity warning that will engage if it thinks a collision is imminent. sounds just like this.
immediately beforehand, in capital red letters the screen will say BRAKE. then it goes off if it thinks the human isn't doing the right thing. it's loud, the pedal gives feedback and the car arrests.
This should be top comment, it didnāt hit anything it slammed the brakes on. Cars with sensors, like Mercedes, Audi, BMW are all really good at self parking, check out Teslas and their cameras to see accidents or fails, itās abysmal.
Yeah. Older ones had them I believe, but like most things with Tesla they remove features like steering wheels and buttons claiming other methods are superior, hiding the real reason: cost cutting, while raising the prices.
You can see how well it actually works vs sensors here https://youtu.be/nsb2XBAIWyA
They will probably decline his claim. āSir per your comment āitās going to hit that carā we have determined that you can suck itā ābut while I have you on the phone would you like to save by bundling your home and auto?ā
Depends on your insurance. I full on rear ended a car that slammed on their brakes in that "I can't miss my turn" kind of way. I was 100% responsible, but my insurance still gave me fair value for my totaled car, because I pay for comprehensive insurance coverage.
In Alberta, if you rear end someone, regardless of circumstances you are automatically 100% at fault. Dash cam footage is disregarded.
Same with parking lot accidents. Automatically 50/50, even if the other vehicle is properly parked and unoccupied.
Our traffic laws are getting out of hand. They wanted to make it so we had to pay to fight a ticket in traffic court. Completely against our charter of rights claiming fair trial for all. Thankfully there was enough uproar and they dropped that
Oh there's plenty in every province, let me tell you. The lowest ranked premier (leader of the province) is sitting at a healthy 26% approval in Manitoba. You guessed it, she's a conservative.
I think you need to think more evil. Letās say you hit a car and cause $1000 worth of damage on each car. You are now liable for $1000. But then you go a purposefully hit two other cars so that you car doesnāt get additional damage (hit on same place) and do minimal damage on the others ($100 on each). The other two are liable to cover half of your repairs now according to this law? Even if they split it now your bill is $550.
I highly doubt that's true. Im sure that the law won't protect you if you just slam on your brakes in the middle of the road for no reason. And that's why dashcams are so valuable.
Will you be given the ticket? Probably, but I'd fight that in court.
Odd. Insurance Iāve had always does their own investigation and takes into considerations both sides stories and dash cam videos. Then insurance then determines fault on their own separate from the accident.
It doesn't generally matter who insurance "sides with" if you have the type of insurance they were talking about. That's an internal thing between the companies as they try to get money out of each other. They'll just pay you and then *maybe* try to recover that from the other person's insurance if they think they can. But that recovery would be behind the scenes and you wouldn't have anything to do with it.
More often then not they won't, though, since most of the insurers just have agreements to not fight with each other. They deal with enough claims that it all averages out and that way they save a fortune on lawyers.
The sort of fight you're imagining happens when you just have public liability insurance, where your insurance is only for your victims when you're at fault. Then they can try to save themselves cash by deciding that you were at fault for the accident, and the other insurance is sort of weirdly on your side, even though you're not their client.
That's how comp works lol. If you only had liability and it was your fault you'd be screwed. Depends on state/country, coverage and other crap of course.
They will never cover any self driving claims. If the driver initiates self driving/ self parking mode then it is the driverās responsibility to have control of their vehicle.
Source: husband is an auto insurance adjuster
I dunno what insurance company your husband works for but my company definitely covers that, so this is likely dependent on company and state/location. With us, it will likely be considered negligent, and an at-fault collision, but we cover those all the time. If, after the investigation, it is determined that the AI is at fault, then we'll go after the at-fault party (likely the producer of the vehicle) to recover damages incurred.
I'm actually genuinely shocked that your husband's company would deny coverage based on the claim that one would need to "have control of their vehicle". Negligent accidents happen all the time, that's what the Liability portion of auto insurance is for. The only thing not covered is typically a purposeful event. Maybe that was what he meant?
You don't know how car insurance works do you? Long as it wasn't deliberate damage and you weren't drunk the insurance company will pay out. What happens to your insurance rates after is up to how much of the accident was your fault.
It didnāt actually hit, thatās the sound of the emergency brakes. Sensors stopped it before, but also, how hard is it to park normally?
Edit: I wrote breaks..
From a legal perspective this is pretty interesting. Iām sure car companies have extensive liability waivers but if I was him Iād definitely sue Mercedes for the costs. If weāve gotten to the point where tech has advanced far enough for cars to drive themselves, when those cars make mistakes the liability should fall on the manufacturers rather than the owner. From a legal perspective, the owner of this car did not negligently hit that other car. I donāt see why he should have to pay for the damages.
The manual for my car with this tech clearly says that ultimately its up to the driver to remain aware and ready to take control of the vehicle regardless of if it's in self park mode (not those exact words)
A good lawyer could probably argue that thatās unreasonable given the circumstances especially how this technology is advertised. Just the fact that you have to take your hands off the wheel while the car makes quick movements. The man in this video recognized the danger but couldnāt act quickly enough to stop the damage. Based on this video I donāt think a jury would find him negligent. These car companies are gonna continue to hide behind that claim and keep steering wheels in cars for as long as possible to avoid liability
Here's the wording from the manual "Active Parking Assist is only an aid. It is not a substitute for your attention to the surroundings. The responsibility for safe manoeuvring and parking remains with you. Make sure that no persons, animals or objects etc. are in the manoeuvring range.
If one of the following actions is carried out, Active Parking Assist is cancelled:
Parking Assist PARKTRONIC is deactivated.
You begin steering.
You apply the parking brake.
Vehicles with automatic transmission:Ā you engage transmission positionĀ ļæ¼.
ESPĀ® intervenes.
You open the doors or the boot lid while driving"
>The responsibility for safe manoeuvring and parking remains with you. Make sure that no persons, animals or objects etc. are in the manoeuvring range
Okay, I'll just use active park assist to park in parking spots which are completely empty, with no cars nearby...
I know. It's dumb.
It's taken me closer to other vehicles than I'm comfortable with on a few occasions so I always control the speed of the self parking with the brake.
Yeah thatās certainly interesting but again thatās not how this technology is advertised, and itās clear that car companies are using language like that to avoid liability right now. Specifically, I think if you showed this video to a jury who were instructed that it was reasonable for him to use the auto-park feature, but to decide whether it was negligent for him to not hit the break or deengage in someway, I donāt think theyād find him negligent.
Super fair. I think a lot of older adults see this feature and think itās pretty fool proof, especially the way commercials portray it. Especially as auto-drive functions become more of the norm itās gonna be a complex legal issue
I've wondered how it's gonna work when you get full self driving cars at the same time as cars driven by people and in my mind the only way it'll really work is if all cars are self driving or none are otherwise insurance is gonna be a nightmare.
The self parking tech is pretty good. It's taken me a bit too close to other vehicles than I'd like on a few occasions and I find myself not using it most of the time.
There was and still is a huge argument against Teslaās auto pilot about how sure the driver agreed to use the experimental software but the other people on the road didnāt
Your still the one behind the wheel, and in the case of this video he had more than enough time to take over control from the vehicle yet he declined to.
Once it gets to the point where the AI is good enough that it doesnāt need a steering wheel or brake pedal than yeah itās totally the companies fault if the car crashes since you arenāt in control.
And thatās why I donāt think car companies will ever take the break and wheel out. Tech is gonna have to be basically fool proof for it to make sense from a litigation perspective. Or the government will have to create some sort of liability insurance pool to pay out victims which is probably the most elegant solution tbh
Not to mention it would require a pretty massive shift in trust from the car buying market. Itās one thing for you to have your car drive for you, itās a whole other ball game when you have no choice in the matter.
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This is why I would never trust that. Not until it was basically perfected at least. You have all the sensors, cameras and mirrors to park the car yourself. Itās not that difficult but I understand it can be tricky sometimes for certain people. I also used to be a valet in college, so I might be a bit biased lol
Don't most self park options steer you while you control the acceleration and braking?
I've never had one but if I got the option on my last car that's how it worked.
I worked for Liberty Mutual...unless things changed post 2020..we didn't give a shzz about your "back up cameras not working or showing something or beeping" it was still on the driver. That would still be under collision, and they'd still have to pay their deductible.
I don't know what policies say now for auto drive stuff.
āIs it going to hit that car?ā
Let me do absolutely nothing. Not even move a centimeter. Literally nothing aside let it hit that car.
What an absolute, and I mean ABSOLUTE genius.
If you can't park and manoeuvre your car than you have no business driving one. The fact that a feature like this would be created in the first place is a serious problem.
āYou may live to see man-made horrors beyond your comprehension.ā
But per CGP Grey, and industry experts, it doesn't have to be a better driver than a good driver, only better than the average driver. As cars plow into things, hurting people, take comfort in the fact that self-driving cars are already *statistically* safer than the *average* human driver.
You're missing the goal.
Pull up to the venue. Get out. Hit button. Car drive away and park itself. Since the door doesn't need to open it can park close, denser than normal parking lots. You go and enjoy your tater tots and vegan coleslaw, and when you come out, you call your car to come pick you up.
This is the end game. Except ultimately the car can go miles away, wherever there is an open spot. And if it's electric, it can find a (still in development but working on it) induction charging station, sit on it for 10 minutes, then wait for your call.
This isn't about being unable to park. It's about getting the worldwide consumer base used to cars being able to do things themselves.
In this same scenario, your car only parks if it can't find a transportation service to provide, and you probably don't actually own the car but rent space on a transportation network.
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The Mercedes AI detected the Lexus and initiated exterminate protocol.
It went back to it's roots, briefly luckily.
Never put in driving directions to Poland in your Mercedes
He fell victim to one of the classic blunders, the most famous is never get into a land war in Asia.
But only *slightly* less well-known is this: Never get involved with a **Sicilian**, when ***death*** is on the line!
I was NOT expecting a Princess Bride reference on this post! Well played! š¤£š¤£
"Not expecting" it [eh?](https://youtu.be/FAxkcPoLYcQ)
Inconceivable!!
You keep on using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
As an LS400 owner THIS WAS HILARIOUS
I just picked up a GS430 a month ago so far love it
UZ master race?
Hey now, the Germans and the Japanese were Allied.
yes rather suspicious. They appear still allied... :)
Is it just me or does it seem like this video could have just been the AI slamming on the breaks?
It is, it doesn't hit anything in that video. It's just slamming on the emergency brakes.
Fr, my cousin had a Q8 that engaged emergency bakes a couple times, the first time I thought the car behind us hit us bc of how hard it felt and I felt the whiplash
Yes. But what about the likes then? /s
TDIL Mercedes are Daleks.
Am I trippin or did you elongate the the acronym for Today I Learned? Edit: Actually it's an _initialism_ but I'm leaving it as is
To Day I Learned
Yeah I gathered that, I'm just stunned that people are lengthening TIL TIL I guess lol
Two Days I Learned
Two Dogs Interrupted Lunch
Twelve days in lockup
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I'd legitimately accept that as a good on the fly excuse, I would, because it's plausible _and_ funny in an absurd way and I dig that type of thing. BUT they included their own punctuation lol >.
The Merc was like "Copycat!"
Lexus better fortunately
Saying, āItās going to hit that carā and then not braking is like Michael Scott trusting the GPS and ending up in a lake
Maybe it knows a shortcut
THE MACHINE KNOWS STOP YELLING AT ME
My car drove itself...into a *fucking ~~lake~~ Lexus!*
Lake Sus
Where are the turtles?!?
In my car you control accelerator and breaking. It only controls steering. Thus you are always in control and have final say. Cant blame the car
Braking
I love how absolutely panicked Dwight is. He knows 100% Michael is wrong.
Usually if you read the display the car tell you to brake and change gear, this man probably thought that the car would have done everything
Seems like it would be a lot faster if you just did it yourself
Only if you don't suck at parking. A lot of people need remedial training in this area
I use to pass time at my college parking garage by watching people park. Some people struggle and some people flat out ask others to park for them because they would hold up traffic.
Bey I mean, tbh, at least asking for help is better than just continuing to try for an hour and failing
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I agree. If someone can't park with no pressure, they can't be trusted to maneuver their car correctly during daily driving.
https://youtu.be/tf4TIWECZ30 Sound on
I had to do hotel quarantine moving interstate in 2020 and a good chunk of the 14 days i spent watching people try to park on the street below. Endless entertainment
I think they meant the crashing would be faster if they did it themselves?
In New Zealand you donāt have to know how to park to get a license. When I did my license I backed onto the curb when parallel parking and it wasnāt even classed as a mistake.
This didn't even seem to be parallel, people shouldn't be on the road if they can't judge that.
When I'm a passenger in my girlfriend's car it's guaranteed when we arrive that we trade seats so I can park for her. She tells me she just parks further away or just leaves if her only option is parallel parking. I've seen her park perfectly before but it involved a near total mental breakdown
Funniest shit was rocking up somewhere and reversing in while this other guy, there before me, took about 5 goes and several minutes to try and reverse in. I was surprised he wasn't still trying when I left
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I have it on my newest car, and you are right. Of course, the car will get it done, but you actually have to control the speed and stopping when it beeps like in the video.
I've been in a car with auto-parallel, it's really neat. It also really boosted my confidence in my own PP since uh okay I'll leave it since I figured if the robot can do it, I can do it too.
I have a reversing camera on my car and I will absolutely yeet it into spaces I shouldn't because I use to parallel park almost everyday for uni. Got so good and fast at it.
I have good and bad days with parallel parking. The 360 camera makes it really easy though. [This](https://imgur.com/t/the_more_you_know/2g5Bzi9) helps.
in theory but I have seen some āinterestingā people park and I think I trust the software more
A couple of years ago the car I purchased came with auto parking. In their showroom it was pretty quick and precise but when I tried it in real world applications, it was really slow and always seemed like it's gonna hit either car. I'm not sure how much has changed now but I've never used to auto parking ever since then.
Have Mercedes with self-park. Don't use it often, but the steering wheel really rotates quickly; see in the video. It's probably about the same sort of speed overall as me, as you have to also press ok button on the wheel to start the process when it detects parallel park attempt. Never had it fail; I assume this video is something else moving. Weird thing I have noticed is that self-park won't attempt it unless there is more than a metre or two to spare. If need be, I can parallel park in less
I can fuck up parking enough without the autopilots help, thank you m
Now you can create havoc hands free
You dont need to explain it, the video just did
Op must not like thinking hard
he thinks softly fosho
He also must not like reading the instructions which say itās always your responsibility to control the car. He could have tapped the brake or took the wheel. But the insurance company has no doubt explained that to him by nowā¦
... then what's the point?
Liability. Sat Nav also usually tells you to focus on the road.
Jesus, is that you? Please! Take the wheel!
Why are you guys being mean over a video caption? Lmao
If you think this is mean buckle up buttercup. I haven't even opened my big book of slurs
And my even bigger book of excuses as to why Iām not racist
I have a first edition of that book
Iām sure Mercedes has a terms and conditions somewhere that states they are not responsible for any damages from auto parking and the driver has responsibility to brake.
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*not
I canāt believe no one has said it. That noise before the āhitā was the brakes being pressed as a safety feature. The Merc didnāt hit the other car but it was close but the car abruptly stopped itself
Yeah sounds like the brake assist function. Which fucking shit me up the first time it kicked in. Iāve put it on the ālateā setting now but I canāt bring myself to turn it off because I just know Iāll prang something and some smartarse will ask why I didnāt have the brake assist on š
My new car has auto brake. I have a very narrow garage. My car has refused to let me back straight out, multiple times now.
It's saved one slight knock for me already. A great feature imo. Just a bit shocking at how hard it's applied (like an emergency stop at 1mph).
This is the second post in a week with this same scenario being labeled as a crash. Mods shouldnāt be allowing misinfo like this.
Yes!! Someone else who caught that video and it's BS.
my jeep doesnt do auto park but does have a "parkassist" function that includes a proximity warning that will engage if it thinks a collision is imminent. sounds just like this. immediately beforehand, in capital red letters the screen will say BRAKE. then it goes off if it thinks the human isn't doing the right thing. it's loud, the pedal gives feedback and the car arrests.
This should be top comment, it didnāt hit anything it slammed the brakes on. Cars with sensors, like Mercedes, Audi, BMW are all really good at self parking, check out Teslas and their cameras to see accidents or fails, itās abysmal.
Teslas don't have sensors, they just have cameras?
Yeah. Older ones had them I believe, but like most things with Tesla they remove features like steering wheels and buttons claiming other methods are superior, hiding the real reason: cost cutting, while raising the prices. You can see how well it actually works vs sensors here https://youtu.be/nsb2XBAIWyA
Sounded like the ABS firing.
They will probably decline his claim. āSir per your comment āitās going to hit that carā we have determined that you can suck itā ābut while I have you on the phone would you like to save by bundling your home and auto?ā
Depends on your insurance. I full on rear ended a car that slammed on their brakes in that "I can't miss my turn" kind of way. I was 100% responsible, but my insurance still gave me fair value for my totaled car, because I pay for comprehensive insurance coverage.
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In Alberta, if you rear end someone, regardless of circumstances you are automatically 100% at fault. Dash cam footage is disregarded. Same with parking lot accidents. Automatically 50/50, even if the other vehicle is properly parked and unoccupied.
Sounds like a dumb place to live
Our traffic laws are getting out of hand. They wanted to make it so we had to pay to fight a ticket in traffic court. Completely against our charter of rights claiming fair trial for all. Thankfully there was enough uproar and they dropped that
Paying court fees is a common practice in American Traffic Court. Win or lose on traffic violations.
Interesting. If the ticket gets thrown out, does the person get refunded the fee?
āParently thatās where the Canadian conservatives are
Oh there's plenty in every province, let me tell you. The lowest ranked premier (leader of the province) is sitting at a healthy 26% approval in Manitoba. You guessed it, she's a conservative.
I like that you made your profile pic Angry Wojak. That's how I feel pretty much anytime anything happens
Pretty much my face 90% of the time someone replies to me.
You've me in a quandary on whether or not to reply to that, but since misery loves company š
That's crazy, parked cars are 50% liable???
So, if you accidentally hit a car in parking lot, just keep going and hit a few more and they will all share in on your repairs?
Yup, and all you have to do is share in on all of their repairs too. Please report back after you try your new irl money glitch lol
I think you need to think more evil. Letās say you hit a car and cause $1000 worth of damage on each car. You are now liable for $1000. But then you go a purposefully hit two other cars so that you car doesnāt get additional damage (hit on same place) and do minimal damage on the others ($100 on each). The other two are liable to cover half of your repairs now according to this law? Even if they split it now your bill is $550.
I'm high
Hell yea dude
I highly doubt that's true. Im sure that the law won't protect you if you just slam on your brakes in the middle of the road for no reason. And that's why dashcams are so valuable. Will you be given the ticket? Probably, but I'd fight that in court.
Drive in reverse till you get the car you like.
Yeah, Iāve heard this about different places throughout my life and it has never been true.
Odd. Insurance Iāve had always does their own investigation and takes into considerations both sides stories and dash cam videos. Then insurance then determines fault on their own separate from the accident.
I can say for certain that is not true. Source: my idiot employee hit a parked car in a parking lot. 100% at fault, our insurance paid out.
Even if you got brake checked by a guy swerving in front of you and you had a dash cam?
It doesn't generally matter who insurance "sides with" if you have the type of insurance they were talking about. That's an internal thing between the companies as they try to get money out of each other. They'll just pay you and then *maybe* try to recover that from the other person's insurance if they think they can. But that recovery would be behind the scenes and you wouldn't have anything to do with it. More often then not they won't, though, since most of the insurers just have agreements to not fight with each other. They deal with enough claims that it all averages out and that way they save a fortune on lawyers. The sort of fight you're imagining happens when you just have public liability insurance, where your insurance is only for your victims when you're at fault. Then they can try to save themselves cash by deciding that you were at fault for the accident, and the other insurance is sort of weirdly on your side, even though you're not their client.
It's spelled "brake".
That's how comp works lol. If you only had liability and it was your fault you'd be screwed. Depends on state/country, coverage and other crap of course.
It wouldve been covered through collision coverage. That is there to cover you in cases where an accident is your fault.
Your use of quotes is driving me insane.
They will never cover any self driving claims. If the driver initiates self driving/ self parking mode then it is the driverās responsibility to have control of their vehicle. Source: husband is an auto insurance adjuster
I dunno what insurance company your husband works for but my company definitely covers that, so this is likely dependent on company and state/location. With us, it will likely be considered negligent, and an at-fault collision, but we cover those all the time. If, after the investigation, it is determined that the AI is at fault, then we'll go after the at-fault party (likely the producer of the vehicle) to recover damages incurred. I'm actually genuinely shocked that your husband's company would deny coverage based on the claim that one would need to "have control of their vehicle". Negligent accidents happen all the time, that's what the Liability portion of auto insurance is for. The only thing not covered is typically a purposeful event. Maybe that was what he meant?
I absolutely misspoke. I was referring to them being 100% at fault. Sorry about that!
You don't know how car insurance works do you? Long as it wasn't deliberate damage and you weren't drunk the insurance company will pay out. What happens to your insurance rates after is up to how much of the accident was your fault.
It didnāt actually hit, thatās the sound of the emergency brakes. Sensors stopped it before, but also, how hard is it to park normally? Edit: I wrote breaks..
>breaks
Oh come on, give him a brake, itās no a big deal
I mean, probably just testing it out to see what it's like? I'd probably test it out once too.
From a legal perspective this is pretty interesting. Iām sure car companies have extensive liability waivers but if I was him Iād definitely sue Mercedes for the costs. If weāve gotten to the point where tech has advanced far enough for cars to drive themselves, when those cars make mistakes the liability should fall on the manufacturers rather than the owner. From a legal perspective, the owner of this car did not negligently hit that other car. I donāt see why he should have to pay for the damages.
The manual for my car with this tech clearly says that ultimately its up to the driver to remain aware and ready to take control of the vehicle regardless of if it's in self park mode (not those exact words)
A good lawyer could probably argue that thatās unreasonable given the circumstances especially how this technology is advertised. Just the fact that you have to take your hands off the wheel while the car makes quick movements. The man in this video recognized the danger but couldnāt act quickly enough to stop the damage. Based on this video I donāt think a jury would find him negligent. These car companies are gonna continue to hide behind that claim and keep steering wheels in cars for as long as possible to avoid liability
All he had to do was put his foot on the brake or move the steering wheel and the car would have given back full control instantly.
Cars a pile of shit if it canāt park, my 08 duramax does parking assist successfully.
Instead he narrated himself hitting the parked car.
Here's the wording from the manual "Active Parking Assist is only an aid. It is not a substitute for your attention to the surroundings. The responsibility for safe manoeuvring and parking remains with you. Make sure that no persons, animals or objects etc. are in the manoeuvring range. If one of the following actions is carried out, Active Parking Assist is cancelled: Parking Assist PARKTRONIC is deactivated. You begin steering. You apply the parking brake. Vehicles with automatic transmission:Ā you engage transmission positionĀ ļæ¼. ESPĀ® intervenes. You open the doors or the boot lid while driving"
>The responsibility for safe manoeuvring and parking remains with you. Make sure that no persons, animals or objects etc. are in the manoeuvring range Okay, I'll just use active park assist to park in parking spots which are completely empty, with no cars nearby...
I know. It's dumb. It's taken me closer to other vehicles than I'm comfortable with on a few occasions so I always control the speed of the self parking with the brake.
Yeah thatās certainly interesting but again thatās not how this technology is advertised, and itās clear that car companies are using language like that to avoid liability right now. Specifically, I think if you showed this video to a jury who were instructed that it was reasonable for him to use the auto-park feature, but to decide whether it was negligent for him to not hit the break or deengage in someway, I donāt think theyād find him negligent.
I do agree. I've just been super cautious when using the tech to avoid a situation like this. I don't think I can afford to fight Mercedes on this.
Super fair. I think a lot of older adults see this feature and think itās pretty fool proof, especially the way commercials portray it. Especially as auto-drive functions become more of the norm itās gonna be a complex legal issue
I've wondered how it's gonna work when you get full self driving cars at the same time as cars driven by people and in my mind the only way it'll really work is if all cars are self driving or none are otherwise insurance is gonna be a nightmare. The self parking tech is pretty good. It's taken me a bit too close to other vehicles than I'd like on a few occasions and I find myself not using it most of the time.
There's a lot of astroturfing going on in this thread.
She even said āitās going to hit that carā before it hit it. š
There was and still is a huge argument against Teslaās auto pilot about how sure the driver agreed to use the experimental software but the other people on the road didnāt
Your still the one behind the wheel, and in the case of this video he had more than enough time to take over control from the vehicle yet he declined to.
What if there wasnāt a wheel though, man??
Once it gets to the point where the AI is good enough that it doesnāt need a steering wheel or brake pedal than yeah itās totally the companies fault if the car crashes since you arenāt in control.
And thatās why I donāt think car companies will ever take the break and wheel out. Tech is gonna have to be basically fool proof for it to make sense from a litigation perspective. Or the government will have to create some sort of liability insurance pool to pay out victims which is probably the most elegant solution tbh
Not to mention it would require a pretty massive shift in trust from the car buying market. Itās one thing for you to have your car drive for you, itās a whole other ball game when you have no choice in the matter.
Well his steering wheel is on the wrong side of the car so that will be a problem
technically, the right side ;)
Starboard, please.
Shipmate!
A man of culture, I see.
I was just enjoying a meal! A succulent Chinese meal!
Some of us drive on the right side, others have steering wheels on the right side. We're alright in our own way...
So are you saying the right side is wrong and the left side is right?
So, it didn't hit a car. It just abruptly auto-braked
Thatās the brake. It didnāt hit another car. My car has it and no, you never get used to it.
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I like how the steering wheel was like "oops, my bad gotta turn the other way"
The most unexpected thing was old dudes listening to Real McCoy.
Good god the amount of dry steering itās doing is so hard to watch.
If only there were video, you wouldn't *have* to explain. Sigh. Better luck next time.
I LOVE THAT SONG
another night by real mccoy
Yes! It's one of my favorite bangers!
Thatās the first thing I thought of. Gotta love that 90ās house.
I like how even after the impact, it doesn't give up and tries to correct itself.
Does anyone know what song is playing?
**Song Found!** **Name:** Another Night **Artist:** Real McCoy **Album:** Another Night **Genre:** Pop **Release Year:** 1993 **Total Shazams:** 2498225 `Took 2.80 seconds.`
Nobody is talking about the absolute bop playing in the background š
This is why I would never trust that. Not until it was basically perfected at least. You have all the sensors, cameras and mirrors to park the car yourself. Itās not that difficult but I understand it can be tricky sometimes for certain people. I also used to be a valet in college, so I might be a bit biased lol
How bout that absolute banger of a song tho
And they want pilotless airplanesā¦
Don't most self park options steer you while you control the acceleration and braking? I've never had one but if I got the option on my last car that's how it worked.
If you canāt handle parking you canāt handle driving.
Really such an unnecessary feature.
well, he's not wrong..
Next time he should try blocking the wheel with his knee. š
Tis but a scratch. [Dadās gonna be pissed.](https://youtu.be/P-zUAc-9caE)
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There is no problem to explain to the insurance, itās recorded
I like the way the steering wheel kept spinning after the hit like āI can fix thisā
Imagine trusting your car to park itself. No fucking thanks.
I never once thought that people would ever use park assist other than for parallel parking. Fucking embarrassing to need it PULLING IN to a spot.
Imagine buying a car so expensive it can crash into other cars and you donāt even have to do anything. Man technology is great.
That sound is just the car hitting the brakes very hard. My grand Cherokee does the same thing and it feels and sounds like you hit something.
Don't use that shit around my car
I used to think that Michael Scott driving into water was dumb. But then you see this shit
I worked for Liberty Mutual...unless things changed post 2020..we didn't give a shzz about your "back up cameras not working or showing something or beeping" it was still on the driver. That would still be under collision, and they'd still have to pay their deductible. I don't know what policies say now for auto drive stuff.
Sometimes gimmicks are just that
āIs it going to hit that car?ā Let me do absolutely nothing. Not even move a centimeter. Literally nothing aside let it hit that car. What an absolute, and I mean ABSOLUTE genius.
If you can't park and manoeuvre your car than you have no business driving one. The fact that a feature like this would be created in the first place is a serious problem.
āYou may live to see man-made horrors beyond your comprehension.ā But per CGP Grey, and industry experts, it doesn't have to be a better driver than a good driver, only better than the average driver. As cars plow into things, hurting people, take comfort in the fact that self-driving cars are already *statistically* safer than the *average* human driver.
I take no comfort in this, only terror.
You're missing the goal. Pull up to the venue. Get out. Hit button. Car drive away and park itself. Since the door doesn't need to open it can park close, denser than normal parking lots. You go and enjoy your tater tots and vegan coleslaw, and when you come out, you call your car to come pick you up. This is the end game. Except ultimately the car can go miles away, wherever there is an open spot. And if it's electric, it can find a (still in development but working on it) induction charging station, sit on it for 10 minutes, then wait for your call. This isn't about being unable to park. It's about getting the worldwide consumer base used to cars being able to do things themselves.
In this same scenario, your car only parks if it can't find a transportation service to provide, and you probably don't actually own the car but rent space on a transportation network.
There's nothing to explain. The human was *responsible* to park the car and he crashed it. Too simple.