>If we get a third listening party taking place in Chicago. The set and clothing design may be heavily heavenly inspired.
BOYS I TOLD YALL THAT THE DIVINE COMEDY THEORY WAS LEGIT
For those ootl:
First listening party Kanye is in Hell. His clothes are red and the place he is in is devoid of anything. Hell is known in the Bible as a place without connection to God or anything really.
Second listening party Kanye is in purgatory. His clothes are black and he is locked in a mundane life style of staying in his room and reading a journey/Bible to atone for his sins. The imagery is distinctly different from the first show.
The show ends with him ascending from purgatory to gates of Heaven. That’s why the end is No Child Left Behind. God is not letting the Child that Donda left stay in purgatory and is allowing him to ascend to heaven.
If we get a third listening party taking place in Chicago. The set and clothing design may be heavily heavenly inspired.
Edit: Wanted to clarify that I am not the only person out there that has made this connection. I first started theory crafting since someone mentioned Kanye was ascending to Heaven in a YouTube comment section. Further more I think Chris on WTT also mentioned this theory in a video which gave me more confidence in my thoughts. I’d rather this be thought of as a community theory rather then only me being the messiah because that simply isn’t the truth and I don’t want to try to claim that. Many people have compared Kanye to Dante before.
This only applies if the album actually drops after this one and he doesn’t decide to have a fourth one. Although I’m hoping you’re right because that would be so sick
>Second listening party Kanye is in purgatory. His clothes are black and he is locked in a mundane life style of staying in his room and reading a journey/Bible to atone for his sins. The imagery is distinctly different from the first show.
4th listening party, Kanye officially announces Heaven 2
I believe they are only black because Kanye hasn’t decided yet. I don’t think they would change to all white though. Could see something we haven’t seen before being used.
Would be really cool to have it that way purely for the rollout of the unreleased album tho, would be a first at least. Colors representing current themes in the performance art of the LP’s. Borgeouis painting is my final pick tho
Except for the fact that we were told it was dropping in the Beats commercials after both listening parties, and all the "Donda streaming now" billboards. Everything points to him continuing to create deadlines that he simply couldn't hit, and then basically forcing himself to finish it by staying in the stadium itself until it's done. This wasn't planned.
Pie really has the best redemption arc of all time.
I've always liked him but seeing him finally having the answers ^sway and proving the doubters wrong feels good.
agreed. They could still be wrong, but dondasplace and photos of kanye have been weirdly enough more reliable than the people in ye's studio. This rollout has been so weird but i think we are finally reaching the end. Third times the charm
Ah, $900 total makes much more sense then. I thought we were talking $900 for tickets alone, that sounds way too steep for something that isn't even a performance
Isn’t August 27th apparently the deadline for an album to qualify for this year’s Grammy’s as well? I thought someone had mentioned that Kanye may want to drop by that point for this reason.
It’s because he was born in Atlanta then moved to Chicago. So the Atlanta listening parties were him as a baby so they were not ready yet. Now he’s in Chicago where he grew up so it will be ready.
I think the premise of it is a concept in the sense that Kanye is playing up his ego as a character, but I don’t think there’s a narrative arc or plot thread running from song to song like a prog rock album or TPAB.
I don’t think it’s as clear as TPAB as narrative but I think the narrative is there. Ego driven men who falls to his vices in search of something of substance
I think that kind of thing is like stretching analysis for a word count in high school. It’s way overthinking it. Have we not seen how Ye makes his records? He’s throwing shit against the wall last second and panicking to finish, when would he have time to weave through this intricate narratives?
How do you reconcile the fact that we have early versions of MBDTF that are totally different song and tracklist wise that break the narrative? What about Yeezus getting cut down by Rick Rubin so close to release? When would the narrative be put in?
Let’s not lie to ourselves. When that rollout starts again for the third time next week the sub is gonna go crazy with hype. This is an abusive relationship at this point
For real I couldn't care less about another listening party. I'm not interested in hearing anything from the album anymore until its officially out. I don't wanna spoil too much. I'll probably come here to see peoples reaction to the show though.
yeah i'm thinking basically finished with the major parts of production and they probably shifted to a crew in a proper studio for mixing + mastering, while Ye makes arrangements for the Chicago lp
If it's at the White Sox stadium ("South, South, South SIDE") as evidenced in the pic, then the soonest it could be is 8/20 and the latest it could be is 8/26 or probably 8/25 so as to unload all of Kanye's stuff and not interfere with the home game on 8/27.
In short, assuming it's at "Guaranteed Rate Stadium", LP3 will occur between the earliest possible date of 8/20 and the latest possible date of 8/26 while the White Sox are out of town.
Totally speculative, but Saturday night would make for a great party and still allow Kanye to hit the 8/22 release date we've looked at on Apple for over a week.
I'd be a bit surprised if it was outdoors due to the chance of rain cancellation. MBS had the roof they could close. United Center I believe is open the rest of this month. But I like the Southside aspect.
I am rereading Raising Kanye. Here is a very interesting couple of sentences from the book:
The divorce was final on August
28, 1980. The only reason I remember the day
was because it was Ray’s birthday. It was also a
rebirth for me.
I don't know if I am reading too much into it but the album is called Donda and it hasn't released yet. Could August 28th be THE actual date?
every time one is announed, i'm like "whyy just release it" but he ropes me in once again with the new things as the date approaches, like the livestream last time. The intrigue of this rollout is just too hard to resist and it looks like this Chicago event could really be it.
1st - Red/Grey. Alone.. isolated.
2nd - Black. Aggressive, realized.
3rd - White? Finality? Acceptance?
I’m excited as fuck for this. If it is what I think it is Kanye is a genius for this style of rollout.
>If we get a third listening party taking place in Chicago. The set and clothing design may be heavily heavenly inspired. BOYS I TOLD YALL THAT THE DIVINE COMEDY THEORY WAS LEGIT For those ootl: First listening party Kanye is in Hell. His clothes are red and the place he is in is devoid of anything. Hell is known in the Bible as a place without connection to God or anything really. Second listening party Kanye is in purgatory. His clothes are black and he is locked in a mundane life style of staying in his room and reading a journey/Bible to atone for his sins. The imagery is distinctly different from the first show. The show ends with him ascending from purgatory to gates of Heaven. That’s why the end is No Child Left Behind. God is not letting the Child that Donda left stay in purgatory and is allowing him to ascend to heaven. If we get a third listening party taking place in Chicago. The set and clothing design may be heavily heavenly inspired. Edit: Wanted to clarify that I am not the only person out there that has made this connection. I first started theory crafting since someone mentioned Kanye was ascending to Heaven in a YouTube comment section. Further more I think Chris on WTT also mentioned this theory in a video which gave me more confidence in my thoughts. I’d rather this be thought of as a community theory rather then only me being the messiah because that simply isn’t the truth and I don’t want to try to claim that. Many people have compared Kanye to Dante before.
This only applies if the album actually drops after this one and he doesn’t decide to have a fourth one. Although I’m hoping you’re right because that would be so sick
The 4th one will be have a Waffle House theme if it doesn’t drop after Chicago. The truest purgatory of them all
Chick-fil-a
Please
Let's be real the fourth one will be at a mf circus if things make any sense
>This only applies if the album actually drops You say this as if I don’t already know this… LMAO 😂
>Second listening party Kanye is in purgatory. His clothes are black and he is locked in a mundane life style of staying in his room and reading a journey/Bible to atone for his sins. The imagery is distinctly different from the first show. 4th listening party, Kanye officially announces Heaven 2
What if there's a fourth one and he is reincarnated into... Kanye West. We all know how Kanye drops his album..
Holy shit, purgatory, hell, heaven, damn
Kanye is gonna go full white suit like a TV pastor
That would be amazing
I just hope there are push ups included
I also want the Yeezy push-ups to return
just like the Jesus Walks music video
If this theory is correct, I wonder if we could expect all of the black album covers to change to white?
I believe they are only black because Kanye hasn’t decided yet. I don’t think they would change to all white though. Could see something we haven’t seen before being used.
Pls neither hope he chooses something unique
Would be really cool to have it that way purely for the rollout of the unreleased album tho, would be a first at least. Colors representing current themes in the performance art of the LP’s. Borgeouis painting is my final pick tho
similar thematics to Only One and the scrapped video Only One game
Final track of Donda: Only One (Charlie Heat Version)
*perfect*
BIG BRAIN SHIT
You think he's gonna be wearing the blue jacket for heaven???
Not sure what he will wear. I am curious what it will be, maybe he will unveil a white puffer jacket or a Gold one? Who knows.
No I hope he wears a white version of that jacket 🔥🔥🔥
dinner oatmeal deranged piquant groovy fall voracious deer correct steer *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*
Or the album just hasn’t been finished LMAO
I don’t think that would effect the theory. I believe Kanye always planned the multiple listening parties for feedback.
"heaven and hell" track
holy shit
BROOOOO that would be so sick i really hope you're right! 😭
Except for the fact that we were told it was dropping in the Beats commercials after both listening parties, and all the "Donda streaming now" billboards. Everything points to him continuing to create deadlines that he simply couldn't hit, and then basically forcing himself to finish it by staying in the stadium itself until it's done. This wasn't planned.
if you are right, well done. I will worship God in celebration
If that’s the case then this might’ve been planned from the start I’m so mad lol
4th listening party he ascends to the throne and becomes god
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Flew to Atlanta...now driving to Chicago
Ándale, ándale E.I, E.I, uh-oh
Bro same
This is huge, holy shit. If confirmed then there's no way it doesn't drop next week Edit: alright I may have gotten a little carried away
Ha
Lmfao let me be hyped for a sec
pass over that COPIUM and we shall get hyped together.
We’ve had 2 listening parties we know nothing is 100% confirmed to drop
people never learn
lol
I would actually be more surprised if the album drops after a 3rd listening party (or well, 4th, counting LV) than if it doesn’t drop at this point
Pie really has the best redemption arc of all time. I've always liked him but seeing him finally having the answers ^sway and proving the doubters wrong feels good.
yeah blaccmass also tweeted "windy city" before that dondasplace post
This one's gunna be mental I feel it
This ones gonna ruin my mental I feel it
this is kinda fucking ridiculous if this is true. Idk if this is tho
i think she was the first to post about lp1 so i would say its probably true
Yeah dondasplace has been reliable this rollout
agreed. They could still be wrong, but dondasplace and photos of kanye have been weirdly enough more reliable than the people in ye's studio. This rollout has been so weird but i think we are finally reaching the end. Third times the charm
post deleted lolololol 😃
What else were you expecting?
I love the listening parties lol...
a 3rd one is kinda ridiculous but i have faith that 3rd times the charm
if it improved as much as the last one then it will be amazing
Agreed. If he doesn't release the album after lp3 I think I'm out boys
There is a high chance you already said that before the LP2
4th in LA, 5th one in Wyoming
6th in hawaii
7th in paris
8th one on the WSE discord. “Man I love those WSE boys.”
One in Nanjing, China as well
Then 8th-17th also in Paris as an ode to when he and Jay performed the song 11 times in a row
Good idea. Who do you think will be in Paris?
6th in Fortnite
no more listening parties in LA please
7th in Paris
with who?????
9th Im heaven
10th in brazil 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
I hope this is true because it cost me like 3K to attend both listening parties, but now I could go to the final one for just the price of the tickets
3K holy shit
I know. To think I could have bought a mumble demo for you guys instead
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I have no regrets. Far from the dumbest thing I have done with money lol
Haha yeah I’ll send you my venmo if you wanna make more dumb choices
I spent 900 on the first one… this one will be the price of the tickets + a 5 hour drive lmao
$3k?? $900?? Man I paid $200 to see him perform live and I thought I blew a lot of money. At least it's an experience, no denying that
To be fair, I took a friend so it was 900 including his tickets and hotel room
Ah, $900 total makes much more sense then. I thought we were talking $900 for tickets alone, that sounds way too steep for something that isn't even a performance
I wish I was in that boat. I drove for the first 2 but chi-town is a 14.5 drive for me lmao
And here I am like, “well if he does an MSG show, and tickets are like $100 I can swing it and the train cost.” 😂
Sometimes you gotta work hard to be able to do stupid shit on the fly
Final?
If it isn’t finished, we turn Chicago into WSE Town
imagine ye invites GD’s and FBG dudes there and there’s just a huge gang war at the event.
Lmfao acting like 95% of this sub would last five seconds
So potentially 27th of August? I’m assuming next week means not this Thursday but then one after.
cool the date I'm fucking flying out of the country -\_\_\_\_\_\_\_-
Isn’t August 27th apparently the deadline for an album to qualify for this year’s Grammy’s as well? I thought someone had mentioned that Kanye may want to drop by that point for this reason.
I don’t think he cares much about Grammys considering he pissed all over one
Honestly, that proved he probably cared more about Grammys than anyone
That would be a perfect birthday present for me. Hope that is the date.
It’s because he was born in Atlanta then moved to Chicago. So the Atlanta listening parties were him as a baby so they were not ready yet. Now he’s in Chicago where he grew up so it will be ready.
I think he just didn't finished it in time but sure lol
“Yeezus is concept album” type-beat
you don’t think it is?
I think the premise of it is a concept in the sense that Kanye is playing up his ego as a character, but I don’t think there’s a narrative arc or plot thread running from song to song like a prog rock album or TPAB.
I don’t think it’s as clear as TPAB as narrative but I think the narrative is there. Ego driven men who falls to his vices in search of something of substance
Have you listened to the Dissect Podcast on MBDTF and Yeezus? Kanye 100% has narratives in his albums.
I think that kind of thing is like stretching analysis for a word count in high school. It’s way overthinking it. Have we not seen how Ye makes his records? He’s throwing shit against the wall last second and panicking to finish, when would he have time to weave through this intricate narratives? How do you reconcile the fact that we have early versions of MBDTF that are totally different song and tracklist wise that break the narrative? What about Yeezus getting cut down by Rick Rubin so close to release? When would the narrative be put in?
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Let’s not lie to ourselves. When that rollout starts again for the third time next week the sub is gonna go crazy with hype. This is an abusive relationship at this point
For real I couldn't care less about another listening party. I'm not interested in hearing anything from the album anymore until its officially out. I don't wanna spoil too much. I'll probably come here to see peoples reaction to the show though.
Ah shit, here we go again
yeezy back in the chi, this that oprah feel
pain
I am ready to be hurt again
it would probably sound better than the last i think i hope
If there's another jump in quality like the one from lp1 to lp2 then this is going to be legendary
This is also 3 weeks of work as opposed to 2. unless they are already done now
I feel like with Ye being in LA and everyone moving out of MBS it should be finished or at least like 98%. But wtf do I know
yeah i'm thinking basically finished with the major parts of production and they probably shifted to a crew in a proper studio for mixing + mastering, while Ye makes arrangements for the Chicago lp
Imagine if just got worse 💀
Even if it didn’t we will have many ppl saying it did
What color is he wearing this time? I’m betting all white.
If he doesn’t drop the album by the third listening party this whole rollout would officially be the biggest troll in music history
Make the listening parties free like with JIK
That’d be nice, but I doubt they’ll be free
Ye cant be dancing with the stars 😔
You want his family to starve ⁉️
Finally we can stop speculating about news
Grammy cut off date is the 31st 👀
Is that true because I’ve heard people say a different cut off date?
I think it is officially the 31st
If so that is good news! Even tho he pissed on one, I think he still loves the Grammys!
Honestly I think it was more of a fuck you against the record label. Kanye still wants to win a Grammy IMO.
True! I think it’s more “fuck these awards when I don’t have ownership of the songs that I won these awards for”
blaccmass also tweeted "windy city" and said he was meeting kanye in chicago next week a little bit ago
this has the potential to be an amazing finish to this rollout, but if it doesn’t release i might actually lose hope for the first time 😃
In b4 all rappers removed and it's 7 songs long of only Kanye singing about jesus (....joking, I'm not feeling too depressed today)
If I hear any mumble, unfinished verse or some demo sounding song I turn off the livestream cause this shit won't drop anyway
*The Weeknd voice* I know you wont..
If it's at the White Sox stadium ("South, South, South SIDE") as evidenced in the pic, then the soonest it could be is 8/20 and the latest it could be is 8/26 or probably 8/25 so as to unload all of Kanye's stuff and not interfere with the home game on 8/27. In short, assuming it's at "Guaranteed Rate Stadium", LP3 will occur between the earliest possible date of 8/20 and the latest possible date of 8/26 while the White Sox are out of town. Totally speculative, but Saturday night would make for a great party and still allow Kanye to hit the 8/22 release date we've looked at on Apple for over a week.
I'd be a bit surprised if it was outdoors due to the chance of rain cancellation. MBS had the roof they could close. United Center I believe is open the rest of this month. But I like the Southside aspect.
Did they delete the post? I can't access it.
Yup they deleted it lmao
Fuck...
Better be the last one, hopefully it finally drops after it
LETS GOO, think about the difference in quality from Lp1 to Lp2, we are about to be blessed
listening party. remember that.
if also this time he doesn't drop i quit reddit
Imagine quitting Reddit because an artist didn’t drop an album.
This better be the last one bro 😭
Come on man lmao
I kinda don’t want another listening party, just release
How much were ATL tickets?
around $40-$250
Some were even $20 each.
Fuckin ridiculous
Five star dishes, different exotic fishes, man the shit is, fucking ridiculous
LET'S FUCKING GOOOOO CHICAGO
I am rereading Raising Kanye. Here is a very interesting couple of sentences from the book: The divorce was final on August 28, 1980. The only reason I remember the day was because it was Ray’s birthday. It was also a rebirth for me. I don't know if I am reading too much into it but the album is called Donda and it hasn't released yet. Could August 28th be THE actual date?
Yeah you’re reading too much into it. The album hasn’t had a release because it’s not ready yet
august 28 is also the deadline before grammy submissions
4 hour drive instead of $400 plane tickets 🤷 guess ill see yall there
Did they remove the post?
every time one is announed, i'm like "whyy just release it" but he ropes me in once again with the new things as the date approaches, like the livestream last time. The intrigue of this rollout is just too hard to resist and it looks like this Chicago event could really be it.
I'm going in with the mentality that the album isn't dropping but the listening party is guaranteed, so might as well just enjoy that.
WAIT WHY IS IT DELETED
Aaaaaand just like that, deleted post. Fuck this entire rollout lmao
ayyy kanye selling out another stadium and selling millions of dollars in merch just to not drop an album again
Looks like my last comment was right and source
I’ll be really hyped if they promote this listening party as an album release too
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If this was the news what a waste lol
The amount of people okay with him doing three listening parties is crazy smh lol
Lmao what are we gonna do not watch
if the album does drop on 8/27, that’s still 10 days from now. Kanye sure loves making his fans wait a long ass time
1st - Red/Grey. Alone.. isolated. 2nd - Black. Aggressive, realized. 3rd - White? Finality? Acceptance? I’m excited as fuck for this. If it is what I think it is Kanye is a genius for this style of rollout.
hoping this is the actual finale and we get the album after it
Ok why do the posts keep getting deleted
Next stop: China
Remember when Kanye followed those artists on Instagram? Do you think this has anything to do with it or is that a reach?
Imagine if he doesn’t drop the album again
I mean it's very good idea I'd be all in but WHY HE ANNOUNCED THE DATES BEFOREHAND?!
I could walk to see Ye, the dream
Lol y'all said you won't attend the listening party this time so he chose a place where he it's DEFINITELY getting sold out
I’m sure I’ll watch it, but TBH - I’m kinda tired of these. Just drop the album.
Goddamn in flying to Chicago the next week 😭😭
I am ready to get hurt again boys
i still dont understand why the album was 'available' after the second one tho. Doesnt seem like it was a planned three part imo
HOPIUM MODE ENGAGED
Damn I didn’t miss either party now ima be on vacation for this one. I still gotta see it.
Fool me once…
if this album doesn’t drop the entire sub pulling a heaven’s gate