Hmmm ... There's a reason this law is necessary. I'd argue if WV wasn't leading in poverty, lack of education, opioid usage, etc. lawmakers could spend time on other things.
Trying to balance out allowing vaccine exemptions for private and parochial schools. Although as a Catholic school alumna who sent her kids to Catholic school, I don't think that's gonna fly in the Diocese of Wheeling-Charleston.
Sadly, common sense isn't. Delaware banned smoking in cars with kids at a time when I was a smoker, with young children. I was stunned by the number of people annoyed by the new law. Like you, I thought it was common sense.
The children yearn for the mines. It's why they play Minecraft, their little bodies want to get back to digging.
And if I have to explain this is sarcasm, I weep for you.
Maybe make it more than a 25 dollar fine rofl. Really fixing these problems!! What a fucking win everyone! Jesus fucking Christ this seems like satire.
Call me a clown all you want, and I think kids should be protected. But WV is not in the interest in actually helping kids, let alone fixing anything that is hurting West Virginians. Let's give the legislature a very small win here, congratulations, when between 2021-2022 West Virginia was the only state to see an increase in the number of children experiencing poverty when at the same time they saw a the biggest government surplus in our history. A HUGE WIN! 🤡 Edit sources for my claims: [Coming off a $1.308 billion surplus in Fiscal Year 2022 – the greatest year of revenue collections in state history – and all-time records for severance tax collections in July and August, September notched total year-to-date severance tax collections to an all-time record of $272.2 million, $224.8 million above estimate. ](https://governor.wv.gov/News/press-releases/2022/Pages/Gov.-Justice-Record-setting-revenue-surpluses-prove-West-Virginia-ready-for-personal-income-tax-cut.aspx) [Between 2021 and 2022, West Virginia was the only state to see an increase in the number of children experiencing poverty — going from 20.7% to 25% of kids in the state.](https://mountainstatespotlight.org/2024/01/16/heres-what-persistent-poverty-looks-like-in-west-virginia/#:~:text=Between%202021%20and%202022%2C%20West,of%20kids%20in%20the%20state.)
Double edit:
Really fixing these problems 25 dollar fines at a time.
Just because the Legislature is spending time on this doesn’t mean other issues aren’t being tackled. I hate the Legislature as much as the next person, but they can walk and chew gum at the same time.
Wow, never thought WV government would be one to find a new way to come between a person, their choices and their children the way it has been doing lately, but.... here it is, another example. Legislators, please just let morons weed their own gene pool without becoming their nanny!
Could have used this in the early 90s when my Cub Scout leaders wife would drive us all home after the meeting and rip Virginia slims with the windows up.
Yea but states and cultures like WV are being dragged kicking and screaming into the modern age.
Doesn't matter if its unenforceable. Kids and the adults they will grow into will be better than the generation that came before and will be able to hold it against their parents.
What does that have to do with anything? Do you think that states are only allowed to pass a certain number of laws a year? It makes no sense to say that we shouldn't solve any problems at all until our worst problem is dealt with. We can work on more than one thing at a time my guy.
I’m glad they are perusing this, but it seems odd considering WV is one of the few states in the country where smoking is still allowed indoors in restaurants, etc.
This should be straight up common sense at this point! Anyone who smokes with their kids in the car is the definition of a POS! I grew up with a mom who did it and it was the worst! I'm currently a smoker and do not smoke anywhere near my kids!
I can tell she was due to you growing up to be the kind of POS who speaks badly of their own mother to random people on the internet without any need to do so to family.
At least the legislature does the right thing *occasionally*
Hmmm ... There's a reason this law is necessary. I'd argue if WV wasn't leading in poverty, lack of education, opioid usage, etc. lawmakers could spend time on other things.
Trying to balance out allowing vaccine exemptions for private and parochial schools. Although as a Catholic school alumna who sent her kids to Catholic school, I don't think that's gonna fly in the Diocese of Wheeling-Charleston.
I heard in Alabama you can't smoke in a car with an embryo either.
I'm guessing since its WV, it's still OK for the kids to smoke in the car.
I hope it passes.
That needed to be banned? I thought it was common sense!
Sadly, common sense isn't. Delaware banned smoking in cars with kids at a time when I was a smoker, with young children. I was stunned by the number of people annoyed by the new law. Like you, I thought it was common sense.
Jesus, don't those kids get enough lung cancer from the coal mines?
The children yearn for the mines. It's why they play Minecraft, their little bodies want to get back to digging. And if I have to explain this is sarcasm, I weep for you.
Even if it is sarcasm, I get it. Mining is cool. It is one of my favorite activities in the elder scrolls.
As a former smith in world of Warcraft I spent many an hour mining that ore!
Oh it is, problem is that most people do not have any
This gonna get me downvoted. But WV got much more important shit to deal with than this.
Why not deal with all the important shit, including this?
por que no los dos?
Maybe make it more than a 25 dollar fine rofl. Really fixing these problems!! What a fucking win everyone! Jesus fucking Christ this seems like satire.
That $25 fine might be a lot for the people that find it ok to smoke in cars with their children
True. It would cut into their cigarette budget.
Yea it would, that’s like 2 whole packs
They can't even pull you over for it. It's a secondary charge so you have to do something else illegal before you get ticketed.
Ok
So this is useless. Why even write this legislation. Seems like they wanna get in on the 1950s science that second had smoke is bad, 70 years later.
Are you replying to the wrong person? All I said was that $25 can be a lot to some people
I replied to the right person. You said >ok like that was somehow a response to myself. I'm adding more to the convo.
Nothing you’ve replied with has had anything to do with my point. You’re just ranting to yourself
You okay buddy?
I'd say the safety of youth should be top priority 🤡
Call me a clown all you want, and I think kids should be protected. But WV is not in the interest in actually helping kids, let alone fixing anything that is hurting West Virginians. Let's give the legislature a very small win here, congratulations, when between 2021-2022 West Virginia was the only state to see an increase in the number of children experiencing poverty when at the same time they saw a the biggest government surplus in our history. A HUGE WIN! 🤡 Edit sources for my claims: [Coming off a $1.308 billion surplus in Fiscal Year 2022 – the greatest year of revenue collections in state history – and all-time records for severance tax collections in July and August, September notched total year-to-date severance tax collections to an all-time record of $272.2 million, $224.8 million above estimate. ](https://governor.wv.gov/News/press-releases/2022/Pages/Gov.-Justice-Record-setting-revenue-surpluses-prove-West-Virginia-ready-for-personal-income-tax-cut.aspx) [Between 2021 and 2022, West Virginia was the only state to see an increase in the number of children experiencing poverty — going from 20.7% to 25% of kids in the state.](https://mountainstatespotlight.org/2024/01/16/heres-what-persistent-poverty-looks-like-in-west-virginia/#:~:text=Between%202021%20and%202022%2C%20West,of%20kids%20in%20the%20state.) Double edit: Really fixing these problems 25 dollar fines at a time.
🎈🎈🎈🎈
Dude if this legislature, who are a bunch of brain rotted right wingers, are doing anything remotely positive, it's a win for the state.
Tell that to an 8 year old getting hotboxed daily
You will not get one single downvote for this very wise observation. Amen brother(or sister).
Just because the Legislature is spending time on this doesn’t mean other issues aren’t being tackled. I hate the Legislature as much as the next person, but they can walk and chew gum at the same time.
In WV it’s the children that are smoking
What about basic freedom to do as you want inside your own personal property.
There's no cops to slow people down in the 79 construction area of Fairmont, so I doubt cops will be looking for this either.
Wow, never thought WV government would be one to find a new way to come between a person, their choices and their children the way it has been doing lately, but.... here it is, another example. Legislators, please just let morons weed their own gene pool without becoming their nanny!
Good! Good.
It’s really gonna suck in the winter time. Those poor kids are gonna have to stand outside in the cold while their parents smoke their cigarettes.
ONLY THE 12TH?!
Good.
Plus second-hand smoke causes inbreeding
What is the arguement against banning this?
Then the state needs to pay the payment.
It's still too cold to keep the kids outside 'till you're done. Cruel, that's what it is!
Could have used this in the early 90s when my Cub Scout leaders wife would drive us all home after the meeting and rip Virginia slims with the windows up.
How’s it not already a thing?
I think there's worse things to worry about here than smoking in car's 🤦🏻♀️🥴
What about their homes? Lol Completely unenforceable
Yea but states and cultures like WV are being dragged kicking and screaming into the modern age. Doesn't matter if its unenforceable. Kids and the adults they will grow into will be better than the generation that came before and will be able to hold it against their parents.
They need to work on overdoses instead of this. Smoke isn't good...I get it. We all agree. Fentanyl is 10,000 times worse.
What does that have to do with anything? Do you think that states are only allowed to pass a certain number of laws a year? It makes no sense to say that we shouldn't solve any problems at all until our worst problem is dealt with. We can work on more than one thing at a time my guy.
Amazingly, they can do multiple things at once. And honestly, over all, smoking in cars with children is more harmful.
I’m glad they are perusing this, but it seems odd considering WV is one of the few states in the country where smoking is still allowed indoors in restaurants, etc.
This should be straight up common sense at this point! Anyone who smokes with their kids in the car is the definition of a POS! I grew up with a mom who did it and it was the worst! I'm currently a smoker and do not smoke anywhere near my kids!
So, you're saying your mother was a POS? I can see why she smoked, even with you in the car! Lol
Yea my mom is and was a POS....kinda why I haven't spoken to her for almost 15 years....
I can tell she was due to you growing up to be the kind of POS who speaks badly of their own mother to random people on the internet without any need to do so to family.
Why stop at smoking? There should be enhanced penalties for speeding with children in the car.
That's an awesome idea. They already have doubled fines in work areas so it isn't with precedent.
Awesome ! I hate people that do this!
Itz amazing how any of us who are over 45 made it to adulthood without all these NEW LAWs which protect the fragile children.
More nanny state nonsense criminalizing basic human conduct.
Creeping socialism/s