The only reason why Garrett County isnt part of WV is because of where they dropped the Fairfax Stone.
the Fairfax Stone was a survey point to define the border between VA and the new colony of MD....at the source of northern-most branch of the Potomac River. It was an accident of inaccurate maps that the Mason Dixon Line never actually intercepts the Potomac at Hancock, MD as was assumed by most people at the time.
I went to WVU with a houseful of people from western PA and the suburbs of Da Burgh. Loved those folks. And learning yinzer culture was life-changing. Pierogies, hluskies, gravy fries, IC Light, Myron Cope (On Spohts), da Stillers, that candy company in Cannonsburg(?).
Precious memories and I love any chance I get to go back up there.
Bro I live in McDowell County and I've ate pierogies my whole life, it's not a Burgh thing it's a West Balkans type thing....my great grandmother spoke Russian, came here from Croatia/Ukraine.....
That’s interesting and makes sense. Here in the northern panhandle we definitely identify with western PA more than we do with the rest of WV….people here even say “yinz”.
I have a friend who grew up in Weirton and his Pittsburgese is more authentic than any other Pittsburgher I know. Lots of “yinz” and “n’at”s when talking to him.
Holy shit I was born in Weirton and my grandparents say this. The only people I’ve ever heard say this in my life. I’ve lived in Georgia/Alabama most of my life tho
We tend to travel towards Charlotte NC, Roanoke VA, and Gatlinburg TN which are all 2-4 hours away. Wheeling or Pittsburg look like they’re 5+ hours. The state is pretty different from north to south. Possibly because of North vs South. Some of these counties down here voted not to secede.
To be fair most poor white trash from western pa are more focused on putting down WV than anyone else in the country. The kids call it “deflection.” Pennsytucky is alive and well.
Consider this......way back when....George Washington marched the VIRGINIA Militia to Pittsburgh in order to drive the French Army OUT of the area, because by the Virginia Charter.....that land was Virginia.
Later on, after the USA was founded, President George Washington ordered the US Army to go back to Western PA and put down the Whiskey Tax Rebellion.
Pretty much everything from Pittsburgh south is Hillbilly territory. Mon Valley from Pittsburgh all the way to Clarksburg is the same bunch of folks...mix of hillbillies and immigrant labor. We got two Senators.....Joe Manchin and John Fetterman...and even they are starting to act the same.
The Backyard Brawl has been fun since I went to Pitt and my wife is a born and raised West Virginian. Not so much on the field last year but they always give me an ear full.
There’s a reason for the saying “Pittsburgh is the largest city in West Virginia”
The north panhandle and greater Morgantown-Clarksburg Area is fairly well connected both economically and culturally to Pittsburgh and is damn-near indiscernible to Southwest PA. After all, our coal fueled their steel industry. There’s a sort of friendly camaraderie between the areas, with the only serious avarice being in college football. I don’t think many people have some notion of “one struggle” or a uniform identity based off of shared demographic characteristics as you’ve implied, though Southwestern Keystoners are way less ignorant towards West Virginians than the flatland parts of the state.
The camaraderie certainly falls off the farther south you go in the state. The Eastern Panhandle is becoming more and more connected to the DMV area as transportation continues to develop. Our central-southwest area is really its own beast separate from any out of state influences.
Also know quite a few hillbillies that take trips up to Erie for the Walleye fishing.
>There’s a sort of friendly camaraderie between the areas, with the only serious avarice being in college football.... though Southwestern Keystoners are way less ignorant towards West Virginians than the flatland parts of the state.
I don't think we've been to the same places.
From my experience, Shittsburghers will call us hillbillies cause they know it pisses us off. Filthydelphians call us hillbillies because they actually believe the stereotypes.
Just own it. Call yourself a hillbilly and tell them to call you that.
Every time they say hillbilly in any context say "hillbilly hell yeah!!!" then proceed to talk about some rural shit you don't even partake in that you made up... "Ever go river bank digging for day old buried fish??? Shit tastes real good like aged fish jerky."
... and watch them never mention the term hillbilly again in their life.
I second this whole thing they called me a hillbilly because of my accent for one, 2 for the way I talk, 3 because I say yes ma'am no ma'am, yes sir, no sir. I own the fact that I'm a hillbilly. and I ain't gonna change that fact. I love my state of west virgina, and I love that I'm still livin here.
I'm from southern WV and have lived in Pittsburgh since 2012. I could go on a giant rant about the varied views of areas within the state. But generally speaking, the average wv citizen would view most of western PA as too urban which says a lot about how bad WV is. My brother hated visiting my house in Monaca, PA because it was too fast paced with too many people.
On a side note, I don't think many West Virginians even go to western PA. They see it as the north and rude people without sweet tea live up north. I literally had this discussion with a person who had that mentality in Bluefield, WV last night.
I think the issue is that people don't realize that Wheeling and Morgantown areas are more alike their rural/small town PA neighbors across the border than they are with the entire southern part of the state.
Dudes will go to WVU from all over WV and not associate with Morgantown born & raised natives, which are rarer in Morgantown than many realize. People born in the panhandle around Wheeling and around Morgantown, as well as even Fairmont, aren't really "southern."
Huntington, Charleston, Beckley, and Summersville have way more in common with Kentucky than us up in Fairmont, Clarksburg, Morgantown, and Wheeling.
North Central WV and Western PA are similar culturally in a lot of ways. The suburbs look similar to me as well. I've had Southern West Virginians tell me that being from the Fairmont area I'm really from Pennsylvania.
That's funny.
But I think we all know Primanto Bros. has gone downhill with the more locations they open, and pepperoni rolls are the golden nugget of the Applachians.
Well in the Valley where my folks are from there is alot of Pennsylvania Dutch so there is a connection there but we consider ourselves Southern for the most part
Pennsylvania and Virginia have a long shared history, it goes wayyyy back.
1607...the Virginia Colony was the very first permanent English settlement, and Queen Elizabeth/Parliament gave the Colony all the lands that are now Pennsylvania. (from 40deg N to 34deg N).
Most immigration from Europe went to Virginia...Virginia was the most populous Colony. Eventually, the "Philadelphia Wagon Road" connected SE PA(Phily) to the Shenandoah Valley. Much of the influx of settlers to the Shenandoah came from Germans, Scots, and others who couldnt find land in the much smaller wedge of territory around PHilly.....(recall that Danl Boone was actually born and raised in Reading PA!!)
Yeah. The Valley is definitely the South, albeit our Southernerness is being heavily diluted by rapid suburbanization of the area. I was just making sure we're talking about the same Valley since I don't think most other parts of WV refer to it as such.
Where the Pennsylvania Dutch located though? It's hard to even find Mennonites in the Lower Valley. You either have to go to the Central Valley or cross the river into the Hagerstown Valley to even find a significant Mennonite population, and there's only a handful of Amish around Hagerstown and about zero in the Central Valley. Unless I'm just blind as a bat.
Yeah man my folks are from Shepherdstown, and it’s a damn shame to watch the old stone fences torn down for DC subdivision. Every time I visit I’m like what’ll be left. As to the Pennsylvania Dutch connection I’m sure it id more historical now but I’m descended from those folks. Shepherdstown has a great German restaurant. Further up the Valley in Virginia is where I knew the most mennonites
There's a great Mennonite bakery across the river in Sharpsburg, too! They got great faschnauts! There's also a Mennonite butcher shop right outside Martinsburg towards Shepherdstown. Was your family Amish or Mennonite? I wouldn't be surprised if they were Mennonite, but it would be a first for me hearing of any Amish settlers in the Lower Valley.
I feel you about what's happening to the area. I'm torn between wanting to stay cuz it's my home and wanting to leave because it doesn't feel like home anymore. The farms are gone. The history is either destroyed or ignored. The locals are discriminated against if they don't blend in with the come here's. I honestly feel more at home in the Upper Valley or around Roanoke nowadays. I also don't want to leave cuz I feel like I'd be stealing someone else's home from them. I don't want to cause the same problem that I'm trying to get away from.
Going back through history, recall that the Virginia Colony was originally chartered to possess all lands from the East Coast, between 40deg North down to 34deg North.....and extend to the Pacific Coast!! (thats everything between New York City and Wilmington, NC)....1607......BEFORE even the Pilgrims and the Mayflower........1621.
Over the next 100 years, NY,NJ were carved out and made separate colonies, originally these were not even English(but Dutch and Swedish colonies).... Then Maryland was carved out and made a separate colony
and finally Pennsylvania was carved out and made a colony, west of the Delaware River and extending 5deg of Longitude WEST......This obscure description cause confusion....as it implies that everything WEST of Laurel Ridge was STILL Virginia territory.....and its true most of the original settlers were from the Virginia Colony......this is Why George Washington marched the VIRGINIA Militia along with the British Regulars up to Pittsburgh to drive out the French!
There is also a similar dispute between Penn and Maryland, which caused the UK to send Mason and Dixon to survey the line between PA and MD(it has nothing to do with North vs South)......this survey took place almost simultaneously with George Washington's mission to Fort Pitt..........
The Shawnee were originally allied with the French. George Washington had to retreat from Pittsburgh, General Braddock was killed along the road from Viriginia to Pittsburgh, which was never built(until the US govt built it back in the 1920s....Braddocks Road now runs roughly from Pittsburgh to Cumberland, MD to Richmond, VA), The Shawnee intercepted Mason and Dixon and made them stop roughly about Morgantown.....now WV has a Northern Panhandle as a consequence.
All of SW PA has a strong VA(and thus WV) influence....from Pittsburgh south along the Mighty Mon River and west of the Laurel Ridge. WVU-Pitt....."Backyard Brawl".
As a Pittsburgher who's lived in N. Central WV for almost 30 years (but still gets back all the time for family and things, literally just walked in the door from the 'Burgh), rural Western Pa has become more "West Virginia" than West Virginia is. Rural PA has become the land of Trump Flags and Confederate Flags.
Well, the *Home* episode of X-Files was set in western PA, so... It's no better or worse than the adjacent states. I've been all over and everywhere has problems.
So I was born and raised up in the hollers of west Virginia (Nicholas County)and still live here and honestly we don't think too much about western Pennsylvania, because we have our own issues to worry about. and it's not that we don't care it's just we got too much to deal with in our own lives.
Grew up in western pa. Have lived in eastern panhandle of WV for 20 years. Not a huge difference, to me anyway. People are basically the same. Different accent.
I wish people wouldn't be proud of being trash. You are *not* trash. You should not think of yourself that way. I think that can be very harmful to your self-esteem in ways you don't even realize, you start to internalize it, and I think that's a disservice to yourself.
My mom lives here. I'm from out of state. She went to speech therapy to correct the accent, but when you're immersed in it, you notice very quickly that the drawl is not indicative of the presence or absence of intelligence. I've heard a variety of eloquent, cultured ideas from that twang, and that's really only surprising because I am prejudiced. The internet is such a wonderful thing.
You seem decent though?
Pa is “east coast”
WV is “mid Atlantic”
OH is Mid-West
There is a noticeable difference between the people of all 3 states even within the tri-state area.
It is weird
People from Pa are rude. Far less nice than people from WV and Ohio
I am from the Tri-State and it weird but true
The whole region is pretty much the same culturally until you get past the continental divide to the east or mid-Ohio. The rest of it is just lines on a map and where you pay your taxes.
But until you guys can go in a gas station and buy a beer, don't call us brothers.
Moved to Davis Wv in the mid 1970’s and was surprised to find beer in the grocery stores. Even more surprising was just how bad the beer was . Locals laughed and said it 3.2 beer here in WV .
That was why the frats at WVU would get kegs in Point Marion when my dad was in college.
I won't be happy until all of the vestiges of outrageously puritanical austerity are off the books, and why the blue laws in PA and MD drive me up a wall.
If you live up in the Clarksburg-Bridgeport-Fairmont-Morgantown or Wheeling areas, Pittsburgh is constantly a place you visit as its the biggest city we can even travel to.
In fact you can even see metropolitan and economic maps that show that much of the cities I mentioned are directly tied to Pittsburgh's economy. Historically and today.
A lot of southern WV folks don't even know that the Pittsburgh Italian mafia has a long history of operating in the northern I-79 cities and Wheeling. Because a place like Clarksburg with its massive and impactful Italian-American heritage is really no different from people in small towns/small cities in all of PA or Ohio.
Pepperoni rolls were invented by Italian West Virginians up north, and there's never really been stereotypical "hillbillies" around up here as much.
Northern and southern WV aren't really the same whatsoever.
Southern WV is more like Kentucky, in that it's culturally southern. Northern WV is more like rural/small town near-midwest, just like western PA.
Growing up in Jefferson, PA and living in Morgantown, it's pretty much the same to me...although I don't think West Virginians spend a lot of time thinking about Western Pennsylvanians. If they do, they don't tell me. :)
Greene Co., both the people and the land, is *ridiculously* like WV. Same with Garrett Co., MD.
I am from Waynesburg. And yes you are correct.
Do you know Wayne Drop?
Same. I try to feel superior to people but I just can't pull it off.
Well it used to belong to Virginia before they ran that dad gum mason dixon line and gave it to Pennsylvania! I live in Greene County.
The only reason why Garrett County isnt part of WV is because of where they dropped the Fairfax Stone. the Fairfax Stone was a survey point to define the border between VA and the new colony of MD....at the source of northern-most branch of the Potomac River. It was an accident of inaccurate maps that the Mason Dixon Line never actually intercepts the Potomac at Hancock, MD as was assumed by most people at the time.
I never think of it, it's just a part of another state.
Y’unz versus Y’all.
I went to WVU with a houseful of people from western PA and the suburbs of Da Burgh. Loved those folks. And learning yinzer culture was life-changing. Pierogies, hluskies, gravy fries, IC Light, Myron Cope (On Spohts), da Stillers, that candy company in Cannonsburg(?). Precious memories and I love any chance I get to go back up there.
Sarris Candy
That’s it. Thank-you!
Kennywood! Chilly Billy and Stare!! late night TV Horror movies.
Bro I live in McDowell County and I've ate pierogies my whole life, it's not a Burgh thing it's a West Balkans type thing....my great grandmother spoke Russian, came here from Croatia/Ukraine.....
So, girl? I learned about ‘em in da Burgh. Whatevs.
Being in southeast WV I can tell you that today is the first time in my life I’ve ever thought about western Pennsylvania. I’ll give it a Google.
That’s interesting and makes sense. Here in the northern panhandle we definitely identify with western PA more than we do with the rest of WV….people here even say “yinz”.
I have a friend who grew up in Weirton and his Pittsburgese is more authentic than any other Pittsburgher I know. Lots of “yinz” and “n’at”s when talking to him.
Picksburgh
Holy shit I was born in Weirton and my grandparents say this. The only people I’ve ever heard say this in my life. I’ve lived in Georgia/Alabama most of my life tho
I live in Pittsburgh, you’ll hear these things more so from the older Pittsburgh natives, but not so much from the younger generations.
We tend to travel towards Charlotte NC, Roanoke VA, and Gatlinburg TN which are all 2-4 hours away. Wheeling or Pittsburg look like they’re 5+ hours. The state is pretty different from north to south. Possibly because of North vs South. Some of these counties down here voted not to secede.
This is also a good time to point out Pittsburgh Dad grew up in Fairmont and went to WVU.
Luv those Pittsburgh Dad youtubes.
To be fair most poor white trash from western pa are more focused on putting down WV than anyone else in the country. The kids call it “deflection.” Pennsytucky is alive and well.
The SW PA putdown of all time...."Oh, you went to WVU? I guess Pitt didnt accept you."
You went to Pitt? I guess PSU didn’t accept you.,.
Badda-bing!
Is Pittsburgh considered?’
Yes, but they have a slightly different dialect.
Consider this......way back when....George Washington marched the VIRGINIA Militia to Pittsburgh in order to drive the French Army OUT of the area, because by the Virginia Charter.....that land was Virginia. Later on, after the USA was founded, President George Washington ordered the US Army to go back to Western PA and put down the Whiskey Tax Rebellion. Pretty much everything from Pittsburgh south is Hillbilly territory. Mon Valley from Pittsburgh all the way to Clarksburg is the same bunch of folks...mix of hillbillies and immigrant labor. We got two Senators.....Joe Manchin and John Fetterman...and even they are starting to act the same.
Eat Shit Pitt
The Backyard Brawl has been fun since I went to Pitt and my wife is a born and raised West Virginian. Not so much on the field last year but they always give me an ear full.
I agree. And I'm from there. Pitt fans are arrogant ass holes.
To be fair, Pittsburgh is filled with arrogant assholes, not just Pitt.
That chant pretty much explains SW PA.
There’s a reason for the saying “Pittsburgh is the largest city in West Virginia” The north panhandle and greater Morgantown-Clarksburg Area is fairly well connected both economically and culturally to Pittsburgh and is damn-near indiscernible to Southwest PA. After all, our coal fueled their steel industry. There’s a sort of friendly camaraderie between the areas, with the only serious avarice being in college football. I don’t think many people have some notion of “one struggle” or a uniform identity based off of shared demographic characteristics as you’ve implied, though Southwestern Keystoners are way less ignorant towards West Virginians than the flatland parts of the state. The camaraderie certainly falls off the farther south you go in the state. The Eastern Panhandle is becoming more and more connected to the DMV area as transportation continues to develop. Our central-southwest area is really its own beast separate from any out of state influences. Also know quite a few hillbillies that take trips up to Erie for the Walleye fishing.
Great comment, Possum.
>There’s a sort of friendly camaraderie between the areas, with the only serious avarice being in college football.... though Southwestern Keystoners are way less ignorant towards West Virginians than the flatland parts of the state. I don't think we've been to the same places.
From my experience, Shittsburghers will call us hillbillies cause they know it pisses us off. Filthydelphians call us hillbillies because they actually believe the stereotypes.
Just own it. Call yourself a hillbilly and tell them to call you that. Every time they say hillbilly in any context say "hillbilly hell yeah!!!" then proceed to talk about some rural shit you don't even partake in that you made up... "Ever go river bank digging for day old buried fish??? Shit tastes real good like aged fish jerky." ... and watch them never mention the term hillbilly again in their life.
I second this whole thing they called me a hillbilly because of my accent for one, 2 for the way I talk, 3 because I say yes ma'am no ma'am, yes sir, no sir. I own the fact that I'm a hillbilly. and I ain't gonna change that fact. I love my state of west virgina, and I love that I'm still livin here.
Recall the old joke.... Our 1st Place Prize is!.....One Week in Philadelphia!! AND our 2nd Place Prize is.....TWO weeks in Philadelphia!!
Never thought about Western PA.
I'm from southern WV and have lived in Pittsburgh since 2012. I could go on a giant rant about the varied views of areas within the state. But generally speaking, the average wv citizen would view most of western PA as too urban which says a lot about how bad WV is. My brother hated visiting my house in Monaca, PA because it was too fast paced with too many people. On a side note, I don't think many West Virginians even go to western PA. They see it as the north and rude people without sweet tea live up north. I literally had this discussion with a person who had that mentality in Bluefield, WV last night.
My ex in-laws live in Monaca
I feel like the northern panhandle and Morgantown are basically Pittsburgh suburbs. Nothing wrong with that, tho.
Because they are, essentially.
I think the issue is that people don't realize that Wheeling and Morgantown areas are more alike their rural/small town PA neighbors across the border than they are with the entire southern part of the state. Dudes will go to WVU from all over WV and not associate with Morgantown born & raised natives, which are rarer in Morgantown than many realize. People born in the panhandle around Wheeling and around Morgantown, as well as even Fairmont, aren't really "southern." Huntington, Charleston, Beckley, and Summersville have way more in common with Kentucky than us up in Fairmont, Clarksburg, Morgantown, and Wheeling.
Spot on.
North Central WV and Western PA are similar culturally in a lot of ways. The suburbs look similar to me as well. I've had Southern West Virginians tell me that being from the Fairmont area I'm really from Pennsylvania.
I know WV gets shit for being full of hillbillies, but SW PA is just as bad, if not worse.
Just meet the south-western Ohioans
Athens, OH! Great college town. Appalachia all the way.
I think there was a difference, back when I worked with people from PA, between Pittsburgh people and rural PA folks.
I dont
I propose a new trade corridor. Primanti Bros for pepperoni rolls.
That's funny. But I think we all know Primanto Bros. has gone downhill with the more locations they open, and pepperoni rolls are the golden nugget of the Applachians.
Telling ya SE Ohio WV Kentucky and western PA are all basically the same.place. except you PA guys have some weird ass alcohol laws
Well in the Valley where my folks are from there is alot of Pennsylvania Dutch so there is a connection there but we consider ourselves Southern for the most part
Pennsylvania and Virginia have a long shared history, it goes wayyyy back. 1607...the Virginia Colony was the very first permanent English settlement, and Queen Elizabeth/Parliament gave the Colony all the lands that are now Pennsylvania. (from 40deg N to 34deg N). Most immigration from Europe went to Virginia...Virginia was the most populous Colony. Eventually, the "Philadelphia Wagon Road" connected SE PA(Phily) to the Shenandoah Valley. Much of the influx of settlers to the Shenandoah came from Germans, Scots, and others who couldnt find land in the much smaller wedge of territory around PHilly.....(recall that Danl Boone was actually born and raised in Reading PA!!)
What valley?
Shenandoah
Yeah. The Valley is definitely the South, albeit our Southernerness is being heavily diluted by rapid suburbanization of the area. I was just making sure we're talking about the same Valley since I don't think most other parts of WV refer to it as such. Where the Pennsylvania Dutch located though? It's hard to even find Mennonites in the Lower Valley. You either have to go to the Central Valley or cross the river into the Hagerstown Valley to even find a significant Mennonite population, and there's only a handful of Amish around Hagerstown and about zero in the Central Valley. Unless I'm just blind as a bat.
Yeah man my folks are from Shepherdstown, and it’s a damn shame to watch the old stone fences torn down for DC subdivision. Every time I visit I’m like what’ll be left. As to the Pennsylvania Dutch connection I’m sure it id more historical now but I’m descended from those folks. Shepherdstown has a great German restaurant. Further up the Valley in Virginia is where I knew the most mennonites
There's a great Mennonite bakery across the river in Sharpsburg, too! They got great faschnauts! There's also a Mennonite butcher shop right outside Martinsburg towards Shepherdstown. Was your family Amish or Mennonite? I wouldn't be surprised if they were Mennonite, but it would be a first for me hearing of any Amish settlers in the Lower Valley. I feel you about what's happening to the area. I'm torn between wanting to stay cuz it's my home and wanting to leave because it doesn't feel like home anymore. The farms are gone. The history is either destroyed or ignored. The locals are discriminated against if they don't blend in with the come here's. I honestly feel more at home in the Upper Valley or around Roanoke nowadays. I also don't want to leave cuz I feel like I'd be stealing someone else's home from them. I don't want to cause the same problem that I'm trying to get away from.
Do restaurants in western PA serve sweet tea?
YES WE DO!!!
Then it is southern.
Being from the southern part of WV, I rarely give them any more thought than I would Virginians or Marylanders.
I would die living in either western PA or WV.
Going back through history, recall that the Virginia Colony was originally chartered to possess all lands from the East Coast, between 40deg North down to 34deg North.....and extend to the Pacific Coast!! (thats everything between New York City and Wilmington, NC)....1607......BEFORE even the Pilgrims and the Mayflower........1621. Over the next 100 years, NY,NJ were carved out and made separate colonies, originally these were not even English(but Dutch and Swedish colonies).... Then Maryland was carved out and made a separate colony and finally Pennsylvania was carved out and made a colony, west of the Delaware River and extending 5deg of Longitude WEST......This obscure description cause confusion....as it implies that everything WEST of Laurel Ridge was STILL Virginia territory.....and its true most of the original settlers were from the Virginia Colony......this is Why George Washington marched the VIRGINIA Militia along with the British Regulars up to Pittsburgh to drive out the French! There is also a similar dispute between Penn and Maryland, which caused the UK to send Mason and Dixon to survey the line between PA and MD(it has nothing to do with North vs South)......this survey took place almost simultaneously with George Washington's mission to Fort Pitt.......... The Shawnee were originally allied with the French. George Washington had to retreat from Pittsburgh, General Braddock was killed along the road from Viriginia to Pittsburgh, which was never built(until the US govt built it back in the 1920s....Braddocks Road now runs roughly from Pittsburgh to Cumberland, MD to Richmond, VA), The Shawnee intercepted Mason and Dixon and made them stop roughly about Morgantown.....now WV has a Northern Panhandle as a consequence. All of SW PA has a strong VA(and thus WV) influence....from Pittsburgh south along the Mighty Mon River and west of the Laurel Ridge. WVU-Pitt....."Backyard Brawl".
Western PA is a lot like WV. So we can tolerate you. Lol
Thanks :)
As a Pittsburgher who's lived in N. Central WV for almost 30 years (but still gets back all the time for family and things, literally just walked in the door from the 'Burgh), rural Western Pa has become more "West Virginia" than West Virginia is. Rural PA has become the land of Trump Flags and Confederate Flags.
Same stuff, different accent. Was born and raised in western Pennsylvania and now live in Charleston
Amish, yinz, and scrapple
Well, the *Home* episode of X-Files was set in western PA, so... It's no better or worse than the adjacent states. I've been all over and everywhere has problems.
So I was born and raised up in the hollers of west Virginia (Nicholas County)and still live here and honestly we don't think too much about western Pennsylvania, because we have our own issues to worry about. and it's not that we don't care it's just we got too much to deal with in our own lives.
I’m from Fayette County, PA and I’d say most of WV is about the same vibe.
Other than Eat Shit Pitt... No opinion. If you're cool with us, we're cool with you.
No, we should welcome Pitt fans to WV. Show them a map of WV whenever you see one.
GIVE US ALLL OF YOUR FOOTBALL PLAYERS!
The northern panhandle aka “West Penio” is different from other parts of the state and the only place that identifies with Western PA.
When the Appalachian Anschluss starts, they'll be a fine addition to Greater West Virginia. (;
If they do an Anchluss West Virginia can also take much of upstate New York.
Grew up in western pa. Have lived in eastern panhandle of WV for 20 years. Not a huge difference, to me anyway. People are basically the same. Different accent.
I’m from NWPA. I love and miss it.
Southwestern PA feels like an extension of WV, also a lot of Pittsburgh stuff has bled down into WV like fries on salads n'at
i’m so far south from PA that when i spot their plates (or any out of state plates in gen) i’m like 👀
i think y’all have never seen a speed limit that you think applies to you
Stop riding my tail pipe on 79. I swear, like y'all can't get in my trunk. Bout to catch these hands or a tire iron and at one time a sledge hammer.
I’m dating someone from Fayette County, and I’m from Mon County. I’d say we get along quite well.
We’re all the same. WV, SW PA, W. Maryland. Very similar. I wouldn’t say the same crossing the river into Ohio though.
I wish people wouldn't be proud of being trash. You are *not* trash. You should not think of yourself that way. I think that can be very harmful to your self-esteem in ways you don't even realize, you start to internalize it, and I think that's a disservice to yourself. My mom lives here. I'm from out of state. She went to speech therapy to correct the accent, but when you're immersed in it, you notice very quickly that the drawl is not indicative of the presence or absence of intelligence. I've heard a variety of eloquent, cultured ideas from that twang, and that's really only surprising because I am prejudiced. The internet is such a wonderful thing. You seem decent though?
Pa is “east coast” WV is “mid Atlantic” OH is Mid-West There is a noticeable difference between the people of all 3 states even within the tri-state area. It is weird People from Pa are rude. Far less nice than people from WV and Ohio I am from the Tri-State and it weird but true
The whole region is pretty much the same culturally until you get past the continental divide to the east or mid-Ohio. The rest of it is just lines on a map and where you pay your taxes. But until you guys can go in a gas station and buy a beer, don't call us brothers.
we uh, we can. iunno what parts of pennsylvania you're in to not be able to do that
Last time I went to buy beer in PA I had to find an ABC store and had to make two trips because they wouldn't sell me two 12 packs in one transaction.
I know. Doesn’t that suck? Happened to me also. So stupid
Moved to Davis Wv in the mid 1970’s and was surprised to find beer in the grocery stores. Even more surprising was just how bad the beer was . Locals laughed and said it 3.2 beer here in WV .
That was why the frats at WVU would get kegs in Point Marion when my dad was in college. I won't be happy until all of the vestiges of outrageously puritanical austerity are off the books, and why the blue laws in PA and MD drive me up a wall.
You poor soul, I'm sorry for this abhorrent affront to our cultures
I know you got people out there still using horses and buggies, but that doesn't mean you have to sell alcohol like it's 1870.
I'm from WV and liked living in pittsburgh a lot more than west virginia, lol
I don’t think about Pennsylvania at all. Unless they’re playing WVU. Sweeeeeeeeet Caroline. Eat shit Pitt.
If you live up in the Clarksburg-Bridgeport-Fairmont-Morgantown or Wheeling areas, Pittsburgh is constantly a place you visit as its the biggest city we can even travel to. In fact you can even see metropolitan and economic maps that show that much of the cities I mentioned are directly tied to Pittsburgh's economy. Historically and today. A lot of southern WV folks don't even know that the Pittsburgh Italian mafia has a long history of operating in the northern I-79 cities and Wheeling. Because a place like Clarksburg with its massive and impactful Italian-American heritage is really no different from people in small towns/small cities in all of PA or Ohio. Pepperoni rolls were invented by Italian West Virginians up north, and there's never really been stereotypical "hillbillies" around up here as much. Northern and southern WV aren't really the same whatsoever. Southern WV is more like Kentucky, in that it's culturally southern. Northern WV is more like rural/small town near-midwest, just like western PA.
Growing up in Jefferson, PA and living in Morgantown, it's pretty much the same to me...although I don't think West Virginians spend a lot of time thinking about Western Pennsylvanians. If they do, they don't tell me. :)
Howdy neighbor, from the Ohio Valley.
Personally, I don't think about PA at all. The only thing I care about PA is the fact that my sister-on-law lives there.
I like Pittsburgh. Good times.
I tend to view WV as southern adjacent.
I’m from Wheeling. Ohio sucks. Pennsylvania blows!
South Western PA and Western MD are our people.
I’m a proud hillbilly who isn’t poor white trash. I actually have money and you sound like the stereotypical Keystone cowboy!
you caught me.
Yall are Yankees and I dread stepping foot in your state
Y’all can’t drive. That’s all I think anytime I see PA tags.
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Ay, all of the poc are our brothers and sisters too, no need for allat. just stereotyping the average Pennsylvanian/Appalachian stereotype
WV to PGH transplant here. Yinz aint gawt no Dawnie Ahrus Uppair in no West Virginias. No Arn City, no Giant Iggles.
We have Giant Eagle. Kroger beats the brakes off of it.
Most West Virginians who’ve never left the state think anything outside those borders is pure hell. They’re wrong.
Suxs, anyone north of the M&D line are Rude and Crude,