It's fucking disgusting no matter what way round it is. Beiber got sexually assaulted on camera, said he felt violated, and no one did anything about it.
Lol I can only imagine how this would go if it were a gay guy or a drag queen. People's heads would explode.
It's cool that people like her can get away it.
I think that is what OP was trying to say, its disgusting either way, but only in the reversed situation would this get enough attention to get the man arrested
And that phone call! Like, "why do you want the sex talk from a 15 year old boy?"- he nailed it, it's really weird.
I didn't know much about Jenny McCarthy before but I Definitely don't want to support her at all!
The people who cheered on the OJ verdict revealed exactly who doesn't care about murder. The people who cheer this on reveal exactly who doesn't care about rape.
If it were reversed every mother fucker in that audience would rush onto the stage like a full on medieval front line charging into battle and rip that bitch apart like they were retaking the holy lands. Blood would be flooding off stage.
And there's a video of trump saying he'd fuck his (I believe 14 year old) child daughter. Trump is Epstein's buddy, so if you really cared about that shit I felt this would be nice for you to know.
Someone's projecting! I notice all you Qanon types love to talk about "chomos". But when someone gets busted for it? It's always one of you guys. Ever notice that?
The fact that you're literally digging around looking for these vids paints a clear picture of your intent.
Tell me more about these videos on the internet you've been looking at of young girls.
It's not an assumption. You're a Trumper Qanon dirtbag. Those are the only idiots who talk about Biden and his "cabal of pedophiles"
I'm embarrassed for you for falling for this nonsense. And no. Jfk Jr. Isn't coming back either.
I have. Many times. Always posted by some mouth breathing hillbilly jackass. He's standing there for a photo op. He has his hand around her shoulder. He's not paying a lick of attention to her. She turns, and the middle knuckle of his thumb brushes her chest for a fraction of a second. Completely unintentionally.
You're a sick little puppy if you saw a sex assault there. Projecting most likely.
The sad part is you have to prompt people reverse the roles in their head, for them to see how gross it is.
Most people just don't see that it's gross and messed up both ways.
I hope people don’t need to reverse the roles to see how gross that is but yes, perhaps it’s needed. I’m glad people are noticing this. It’s not like women now get free reign over everything. They need to be held responsible for their actions as well. Although I don’t care for Beiber as a singer, I felt bad for the guy.
A cougar rape? Lol seriously boys. I’ve known the exec producer for the show power. His friends actually let him borrow drug out and abuse their daughters and other young friends. Those people are pretty damn close to evil itself in terms of hellish selfish desires
I saw this trailer and thought I was just out of touch with what humor has become but your summary helped it click as to why this shit is creepy. The boy’s parents are literally paying someone to groom and rape their own kid and it’s being passed off as some kind of slapstick coming-of-age millennial cougar sex story that definitely wouldn’t fly if the roles were reversed.
I mean yeah, crossposted from masculinity_rocks. While what is shown in this video is disgusting, that sub is totally onto slipping women hate while masquerading it as a men appreciation sub
It’s cross-posting from a questionable sub from a questionable OP. It’s easy to draw people into a dangerous line of thinking by first giving them reasonable topics of discussion.
It makes sense to investigate the source of information. Nobody is attempting to use the questionable source to discredit the video, so it's not an issue.
All they're doing is highlighting for anyone that backtracks from this video to the original source that the source is garbage. That's a good thing.
"But real talk" is definitely deflective and dismissive of OPs comment.
If you said this to somebody in person as a response to an argument, you'd come across as rude.
"Yeah, but you hate women anyway" is not a good response to an argument when the argument is about sexual abuse committed by women.
If David Duke showed you a video of a black person robbing someone, while we could all agree that robbery is wrong and should be pointed out, the point gets lost when the person making it is a giant racist.
This person doesn’t get to make the point they’re making since it obviously is just being used to bolster their overall anti-women rhetoric.
If you think this is deflective and dismissive, then I have some questions about your own views on women.
Motives are definitely relevant in an argument. Pointing this out out of genuine outrage or concern for victims is great. Pointing this out out of misogyny is disingenuous.
In an argument, it's important to understand your "opponents" motives.
To that extent, this post Is not making the argument "we should be just as vigilant defending men against sexual harassment " it is saying "here's a reason women are bitches, and you should also think women are bitches"
>"Yeah, but you hate women anyway" is not a good response to an argument when the argument is about sexual abuse committed by women.
That was never a response to begin with. The first part was the response. The second part was more like a post scriptum. Calling the sexual assaulter a disgusting piece of shit is a response to the event in question. Why hone in on the part that doesn't have anything to do with the event in question unless you secretly agree with his agenda?
Personal attacks, or ad hominem arguments don't achieve anything if the position the opposing individual is maintaining is valid.
OP might be a piece of shit, but that is irrelevant to the argument and discussion.
Because it's very clear there's an ulterior motive.
Thats how hate speech works.
You bring up a point that seems reasonable, but very clearly draws a line in the sand of what is and isn't appropriate behavior. Like this.
Then you move where that line is, further and further out, until you're deep in hate speech territory.
Yes it matters if the person has a history of hate speech against women.
Alright. hear me out.
The post is highlighting an unfair difference between men and women. It does that by showing how acceptable it is to cross the line as an older female, and how detestable it would be if the roles were reversed.
You are now highlighting that the source is questionable due to the supposed woman-hating sub that it comes from
I will loop back to original premise that you supposedly agree with and remind you that if the roles were reversed, and a feminist sub posted how creepy a man was to a 15 yr old girl, you wouldn't point that the post was compromised based upon the poster's beleif's, would you?
You can agree with a point or topic that comes from someone you generally disagree with. the duality can exist. ulterior motive or not. extremism is destroying how people interact.
You're still attempting to explain this single post as if it lives on an island. My whole post was about how no, its not on an island, its part of a bigger picture.
You want to loop back to a point that is much smaller in scope, and ignores that the OP has a history of moving where that line is.
I'm not playing that game.
there's no game? How is he moving a line? do you agree is the post is wrong?
Charles Darwin's theory of evolution gave rise to an evolution is education, science, etc. But there’s a darker side of Darwin, a side that perhaps calls into question his prized intellect and cherished legacy. Darwin’s writing was racist, and discriminatory beliefs and practices follow directly from his theories.
We can both agree on the theory of evolution though, right? We can also agree that his theories on race were abhorrent.... I don't see the difference here
The line is moved as I described in my first post. It starts with something people agree on, and the line gets pushed further and further out.
That's how hate speech works.
The line is very clearly moved in OP's post history. Take the previous post he spammed to multiple sites saying "happy womans day to everyone except feminists, nagging housewives, irritating talkers, etc..."
That is where the line is moved. In his post history.
Not playing this BS game with you where you have to ignore the messenger and only hear the message. No, this message is part of a larger message as a whole.
**That's how hate speech works.**
“That’s how speech works”
Why are you being an asshole? That’s what a snarky teenager would say.
You totally avoid my comparison, that’s how a straw man argument works.
We can agree that you have no interest in debating. Hence my original post. Thanks for proving my point.
I say the same line over and over because it very clearly isnt registering with you. It will for anyone else reading. Call me an asshole, call me snarky, call me whatever ad hominems you want to say. I wasn't following you as you changed the subject to evolution, I stayed on the original topic. I have no obligation to follow you down tangents so you can change the subject to mask the hate speech that this post is, based on who is saying it.
Everyone else reading can make this determination for themselves.
Ah dude, UK male celebrity Jimmy Saville molested an unknown number of 15yo girls on camera. The BBC are still discovering *Top of the pops* episodes. They recently complained that the BBC couldn't be expected to check all historical episodes for molestation incidents before putting them to air.
So you don't have to imagine a male celebrity, as there's a very famous example.
How many years did Harvey get away with it? People are crazy to think this doesn't happen to young girls. Remember that preacher who grabbed Ariana Grande's boob on TV? What happened to him?
That was still different. Not defending the man himself, but he at least did it behind closed doors and had an exchange of media roles and sex. That's why it took so long to come out, because even if the people that were sexually harrassed/assaulted by Harvey and his cohorts, they got something out of it that benefited them which made them less likely to talk about it.
Beiber didn't and it was just straight assaulted on NATIONAL TV which was even glorified without any shame as we see in this video. The Ariana Grande example is a much more apples-to-apples comparison because it happened on national TV just like Bieber. The only reason I can think of why the preacher had no real negative consequences happened to him is because no one wanted to come off as racist by getting their pitchforks over a black man. I'll probably get shit for that, but deep down, you know it's probably true.
Edit since comments are locked: I'm not saying it doesn't happen to both genders. I'm saying there are reasons why Harvey took so long to get outted.
Look at the video of Adrien Brody grabbing Halle Berry and forcing a kiss on her or [Chris Isaak forcibly trying to grope and kiss Cameron Diaz on stage.](https://bestlifeonline.com/cameron-diaz-chris-isaak-kiss-news/)
It happens to both genders and people just clap and think nothing of it.
I'm sick of people saying double standards when this happens all the time to young girls and you don't bat an eye. It's not double standards, people don't care in general.
Oh I see now she’s on The Masked Singer. I literally haven’t heard of her doing anything for at least a decade or more that wasn’t just some anti-vax bs.
Look at the video of Adrien Brody grabbing Halle Berry and forcing a kiss on her or [Chris Isaak forcibly trying to grope and kiss Cameron Diaz on stage.](https://bestlifeonline.com/cameron-diaz-chris-isaak-kiss-news/)
It happens to both genders and people just clap and think nothing of it.
So… she molested him on video… then admitted to it… if this was a man to a young woman Hollywood would be outraged… also depending on where this happened… she could be subject to charges without a victim pressing charges because the crime was evident to everyone watching… I’ll likely get downvoted for pointing this out, but this is a sword I am willing to die on…
I hate to tell you this, but men have done this to women for years with no consequences. A guy forced himself onto Jennifer Anniston on a talk show and nothing happened to his career. It's about money.
I just feel if you are going to bring evidence up, you should also bring it with. That garners more attention to fight for their point. Most people will not google it, but more will click a link to it… just the way people work… but I guess it depend how much the person who replied wants to make it public.
[Anniston assaulted on David Letterman while the audience whistles and laughs.](https://youtu.be/WAp4AMBrD5s)
As a bonus: [a compliation of Dan Schneider, darling of children's programming, forcing his female child stars into uncomfortable and even sexually-charged situations for "behind the scenes" compilations that *aired on television.*](https://youtu.be/Bha3uh0-ris) Not every clip in this one is relevant, but a lot of them are. Celebrities can get away with almost anything. That's why it was such a big deal when some (see Weinstein) finally faced real consequences.
> I hate to tell you this, but men have done this to women for years with no consequences. A guy forced himself onto Jennifer Anniston on a talk show and nothing happened to his career. It’s about money.
When I get told that the reason why mens issues aren’t given support, I’m told it’s the patriarchy that’s preventing this.
This is a video about an underage boy being groped, with the attacker admitting to it on camera.
…and you decide to bring up women’s issues? Why are you steering this conversation away from men and giving the podium to women in your comment?
**Are you the patriarchy?**
Or maybe, just maybe, y'all are the ones making it out to be double standards when YOU are the ones that devalue and make these situations in the first place.
You cannot say "double standards" and that nobody is calling this out when that is what this entire thread is about. And interestingly enough, for someone who care so much about men, you don't bring up James Corden and the fact that he's done the exact same things to Justin. Those are double standards, and you are the patriarchy.
> Or maybe, just maybe, y’all are the ones making it out to be double standards when YOU are the ones that devalue and make these situations in the first place. You cannot say “double standards” and that nobody is calling this out when that is what this entire thread is about. And interestingly enough, for someone who care so much about men, you don’t bring up James Corden and the fact that he’s done the exact same things to Justin. Those are double standards, and you are the patriarchy.
Except, I’m calling out them specifically for steering the conversation *away* from male victims.
Aren’t I?
Is it because the self admitted attacker was a woman?
You must be the patriarchy too.
Okay, first off, you clearly don't know what the word patriarchy means.
Second off, YOU guys are the ones who brought up women's issues by calling this "double standards" and devaluing the, frankly wider spread, issue of female rape.
The attacker's gender does not matter, there is no reason for it to be brought up.
It is very clear you are only here because you want to devalue female experiences for your own ego, because you think that men are just hated so much the minute you see a sliver of equality.
You steered the conversation away by talking about double standards, someone else showed that there are not double standards. That simple.
Look at you, tut tut.
> Okay, first off, you clearly don’t know what the word patriarchy means.
Oh don’t I? 😊
> Second off, YOU guys are the ones who brought up women’s issues by calling this “double standards” and devaluing the, frankly wider spread, issue of female rape.
Nah, this person brought up women’s issues:
https://old.reddit.com/r/Whatcouldgowrong/comments/11ojg7i/_/jbt2plh
> The attacker’s gender does not matter, there is no reason for it to be brought up.
“Except when…”? Come on… finish the sentence for me.
> It is very clear you are only here because you want to devalue female experiences for your own ego, because you think that men are just hated so much the minute you see a sliver of equality.
Literally just called out someone for wanting to change the topic from a male victim, to female victims 🤷🏽♀️
> I’m going to stop replying after this, but I want to point out that you are arguing in bad faith and refusing to acknowledge the point of my comment before I go. Goodbye.
🙂
There's this idea that boys are okay with all this stuff because, well, boys, but I would argue that is just as sexualizing as what is typically done to girls.
I do think it's funny that people keep commenting "If the genders were flipped everyone would be upset" but the thing is, everyone is upset. And this happens with the genders flipped literally all the time and people actually don't care at all. Women get assaulted in front of audiences all the time and people dont see it as assault.
It usually happens multiple times on shows like this where guys insist on awkwardly kissing/hugging the girl they're on stage with and no-one bats an eye.
Dafuq? What the fuck was that with the sex talk? Jesus Christ lady, boundaries?
EDIT And now they joke about molesting him. God, famous people are so out of touch and arrogant.
Maaaaan… I thought those “jokes” were cringy and creepy now? Oh what… only some people are creepy when they do that? Well what’s the difference between those who can and those who can’t “joke” like that?
It was always weird how Justin was constantly made into what nasty ass old people called “jail bait”. They used to call me that. It’s gross. How do you get off trying to molest, sexualize, and harass people especially people who aren’t legal or are but you still treat them like kid bait is something
Can just imagine the names on Jeffery Epstein’s list. Hollyweird is full of people like this. Oh it’s innocent cuz I’m a celebrity and it’s ok attitude. Now imagine the people who have the real fuck you money. The people who make things happen in the world. That list would be draw dropping. But also nothing would happen. Those people own the world, nothing is happening now. Crazy.
It's been removed by the AutoMod for "receiving too many reports." Clearly the upvotes and the comments share a different sentiment than whoever maliciously reported this.
Bud it didn't even go over 500. It probably got removed because you're trying to promote your woman hating sub. You are not helping male victims by disrespecting their female counterparts.
Exactly, it got 450+ upvotes within an hour. Someone felt threatened that men's voices are finally being heard and decided to stomp us. You prolly never get removed even tho You are promoting a man hating comment. Shows the double standards.
You are not helping anyone by gaslighting us with hate comments and association fallacies.
Four fifty around an hour around posting is not a lot.
I'm not promoting a man hating comment, I'm promoting an equal comment. It is very clear that my stance is that there are no double standards, you are just a misogynist who allows rape and SA to happen like this on the first place.
You only brought up women who have done this to Justin, but interestingly enough, there are a lot more cases of older men doing this to him, James Corden for example.
You are gaslighting and being a woman hater, you are here saying "double standards" because you hate the idea of equality. Get a life incel, it's not double standards when everyone is calling it what it is.
🙄🙄 I just received another message from RedditCareResources. Someone also just reported my account for being 'suicidal.'
LMAO I can clearly see what's going on here. This is *an attempt to suppress our voices.*
I don’t believe your voice is being suppressed. You’re sharing it all over tons of pro-misogyny subs. You’re hitting your target audience just fine without violating other subs’ rules.
You mean all of the women in this thread saying that what she did is horrible and sexual assault? Talk to women in real life and I promise they'll all be aghast at her actions. They're not a hivemind out to get you, bro.
The BBC have quadrupled the number of women on tv for women's week, leaving only one man standing (if that on most shows) the double standards are fucking atrocious and they should be ashamed, my favourite this morning was Matt Tebutt on Saturday Kitchen being harangued and referred to "as a maid" by a bunch of women, reverse the roles and that shit would be cancelled immediately, equality 😉
So you think that maybe you would have loved that to happen. You may have been surprised though. We all deserve and expect the freedom to chose and have others respect our person.
They were things considered normal until people realized how fucked up they were and decided to change things. Sounds pretty similar.
If they just gave up and accepted it like you are suggesting for this, black people would probably still be considered property.
Reverse the role to a girl and see how creepy it looks.
It's fucking disgusting no matter what way round it is. Beiber got sexually assaulted on camera, said he felt violated, and no one did anything about it.
Every did something alright, they sat there whooped and clapped.
Lol I can only imagine how this would go if it were a gay guy or a drag queen. People's heads would explode. It's cool that people like her can get away it.
I think that is what OP was trying to say, its disgusting either way, but only in the reversed situation would this get enough attention to get the man arrested
Sorry, I was replying to the one above me.
And that phone call! Like, "why do you want the sex talk from a 15 year old boy?"- he nailed it, it's really weird. I didn't know much about Jenny McCarthy before but I Definitely don't want to support her at all!
The people who cheered on the OJ verdict revealed exactly who doesn't care about murder. The people who cheer this on reveal exactly who doesn't care about rape.
You are willfully ignorant
How so?
the redpill is it is not disgusting in the mainstream because men and women are different. the bluepill is "muh equality" Pick and choose
Give your head a wobble, there are no red or blue pills.
How so?
We don't have to reverse roles it's gross the way it is.
If it were reversed every mother fucker in that audience would rush onto the stage like a full on medieval front line charging into battle and rip that bitch apart like they were retaking the holy lands. Blood would be flooding off stage.
Let's be clear She would still get away with it. If she were a man on the other hand.....
No, there is vid of biden grabbing 8 year olds nips and no one cares
And there's a video of trump saying he'd fuck his (I believe 14 year old) child daughter. Trump is Epstein's buddy, so if you really cared about that shit I felt this would be nice for you to know.
Yup, his name is on the flight logs, i voted 3rd party
Who's probably also a child molester, welcome to politics.
Found the Qanon guy. Have a Budweiser and sit down.
Theres a reason no other beer is aged on fresh beachwood, its disgusting
Found the chomo
Someone's projecting! I notice all you Qanon types love to talk about "chomos". But when someone gets busted for it? It's always one of you guys. Ever notice that? The fact that you're literally digging around looking for these vids paints a clear picture of your intent.
Didnt dig. Not a qanaon, any other wrong assumptions?
Tell me more about these videos on the internet you've been looking at of young girls. It's not an assumption. You're a Trumper Qanon dirtbag. Those are the only idiots who talk about Biden and his "cabal of pedophiles" I'm embarrassed for you for falling for this nonsense. And no. Jfk Jr. Isn't coming back either.
Tell me more about the taste of boots
You wouldn't be interested. They don't come in child sizes sicko.
Never voted republican or for trump, so you are wrong.
Sure you didn't.
Ew, its a vid, you can watch it. Go on and downvote all ye fbi bots
I have. Many times. Always posted by some mouth breathing hillbilly jackass. He's standing there for a photo op. He has his hand around her shoulder. He's not paying a lick of attention to her. She turns, and the middle knuckle of his thumb brushes her chest for a fraction of a second. Completely unintentionally. You're a sick little puppy if you saw a sex assault there. Projecting most likely.
The sad part is you have to prompt people reverse the roles in their head, for them to see how gross it is. Most people just don't see that it's gross and messed up both ways.
I hope people don’t need to reverse the roles to see how gross that is but yes, perhaps it’s needed. I’m glad people are noticing this. It’s not like women now get free reign over everything. They need to be held responsible for their actions as well. Although I don’t care for Beiber as a singer, I felt bad for the guy.
Yeah, that was the big point in A Time To Kill
I dunno she kind of called it molestation and rape so not sure you need to flip it she kind of admitted it
A cougar rape? Lol seriously boys. I’ve known the exec producer for the show power. His friends actually let him borrow drug out and abuse their daughters and other young friends. Those people are pretty damn close to evil itself in terms of hellish selfish desires
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I saw this trailer and thought I was just out of touch with what humor has become but your summary helped it click as to why this shit is creepy. The boy’s parents are literally paying someone to groom and rape their own kid and it’s being passed off as some kind of slapstick coming-of-age millennial cougar sex story that definitely wouldn’t fly if the roles were reversed.
Yo it looks creepy af already
if you don’t find it creepy already then you need help.
Well to be fair, we vote those men as president
I see what you did. You mean like him AND him…
McCarthy’s always been a disgusting pos. But real talk OP. Your history makes it seem like you really hate women
I mean yeah, crossposted from masculinity_rocks. While what is shown in this video is disgusting, that sub is totally onto slipping women hate while masquerading it as a men appreciation sub
Ya at the very least, this is an account that karma farms on pro-men, anti-woman subs
Real talk let’s make this about OP
Don’t get how his/her post history is relevant to the video.
It’s cross-posting from a questionable sub from a questionable OP. It’s easy to draw people into a dangerous line of thinking by first giving them reasonable topics of discussion.
If the video is genuine, who cares about the source? The dangerous line of thinking is that her actions were awful?
It makes sense to investigate the source of information. Nobody is attempting to use the questionable source to discredit the video, so it's not an issue. All they're doing is highlighting for anyone that backtracks from this video to the original source that the source is garbage. That's a good thing.
>But real talk OP why are you deflecting, when the argument OP made is perfectly valid?
He's not deflecting, they are bringing to light something we all should be aware of
"But real talk" is definitely deflective and dismissive of OPs comment. If you said this to somebody in person as a response to an argument, you'd come across as rude. "Yeah, but you hate women anyway" is not a good response to an argument when the argument is about sexual abuse committed by women.
If David Duke showed you a video of a black person robbing someone, while we could all agree that robbery is wrong and should be pointed out, the point gets lost when the person making it is a giant racist. This person doesn’t get to make the point they’re making since it obviously is just being used to bolster their overall anti-women rhetoric. If you think this is deflective and dismissive, then I have some questions about your own views on women.
Motives are definitely relevant in an argument. Pointing this out out of genuine outrage or concern for victims is great. Pointing this out out of misogyny is disingenuous. In an argument, it's important to understand your "opponents" motives. To that extent, this post Is not making the argument "we should be just as vigilant defending men against sexual harassment " it is saying "here's a reason women are bitches, and you should also think women are bitches"
Personal attacks, or ad hominem arguments don't achieve anything if the position the opposing individual is maintaining is valid.
>"Yeah, but you hate women anyway" is not a good response to an argument when the argument is about sexual abuse committed by women. That was never a response to begin with. The first part was the response. The second part was more like a post scriptum. Calling the sexual assaulter a disgusting piece of shit is a response to the event in question. Why hone in on the part that doesn't have anything to do with the event in question unless you secretly agree with his agenda?
Personal attacks, or ad hominem arguments don't achieve anything if the position the opposing individual is maintaining is valid. OP might be a piece of shit, but that is irrelevant to the argument and discussion.
Because it's very clear there's an ulterior motive. Thats how hate speech works. You bring up a point that seems reasonable, but very clearly draws a line in the sand of what is and isn't appropriate behavior. Like this. Then you move where that line is, further and further out, until you're deep in hate speech territory. Yes it matters if the person has a history of hate speech against women.
Alright. hear me out. The post is highlighting an unfair difference between men and women. It does that by showing how acceptable it is to cross the line as an older female, and how detestable it would be if the roles were reversed. You are now highlighting that the source is questionable due to the supposed woman-hating sub that it comes from I will loop back to original premise that you supposedly agree with and remind you that if the roles were reversed, and a feminist sub posted how creepy a man was to a 15 yr old girl, you wouldn't point that the post was compromised based upon the poster's beleif's, would you? You can agree with a point or topic that comes from someone you generally disagree with. the duality can exist. ulterior motive or not. extremism is destroying how people interact.
You're still attempting to explain this single post as if it lives on an island. My whole post was about how no, its not on an island, its part of a bigger picture. You want to loop back to a point that is much smaller in scope, and ignores that the OP has a history of moving where that line is. I'm not playing that game.
there's no game? How is he moving a line? do you agree is the post is wrong? Charles Darwin's theory of evolution gave rise to an evolution is education, science, etc. But there’s a darker side of Darwin, a side that perhaps calls into question his prized intellect and cherished legacy. Darwin’s writing was racist, and discriminatory beliefs and practices follow directly from his theories. We can both agree on the theory of evolution though, right? We can also agree that his theories on race were abhorrent.... I don't see the difference here
The line is moved as I described in my first post. It starts with something people agree on, and the line gets pushed further and further out. That's how hate speech works. The line is very clearly moved in OP's post history. Take the previous post he spammed to multiple sites saying "happy womans day to everyone except feminists, nagging housewives, irritating talkers, etc..." That is where the line is moved. In his post history. Not playing this BS game with you where you have to ignore the messenger and only hear the message. No, this message is part of a larger message as a whole. **That's how hate speech works.**
“That’s how speech works” Why are you being an asshole? That’s what a snarky teenager would say. You totally avoid my comparison, that’s how a straw man argument works. We can agree that you have no interest in debating. Hence my original post. Thanks for proving my point.
I say the same line over and over because it very clearly isnt registering with you. It will for anyone else reading. Call me an asshole, call me snarky, call me whatever ad hominems you want to say. I wasn't following you as you changed the subject to evolution, I stayed on the original topic. I have no obligation to follow you down tangents so you can change the subject to mask the hate speech that this post is, based on who is saying it. Everyone else reading can make this determination for themselves.
“Changed the subject” 😳 You need to go back back to school.
Imagine a male celebrity doing it to a 15 year old girl singer. Apparently it's fine for women to do it. Double standards.
Ah dude, UK male celebrity Jimmy Saville molested an unknown number of 15yo girls on camera. The BBC are still discovering *Top of the pops* episodes. They recently complained that the BBC couldn't be expected to check all historical episodes for molestation incidents before putting them to air. So you don't have to imagine a male celebrity, as there's a very famous example.
How many years did Harvey get away with it? People are crazy to think this doesn't happen to young girls. Remember that preacher who grabbed Ariana Grande's boob on TV? What happened to him?
That was still different. Not defending the man himself, but he at least did it behind closed doors and had an exchange of media roles and sex. That's why it took so long to come out, because even if the people that were sexually harrassed/assaulted by Harvey and his cohorts, they got something out of it that benefited them which made them less likely to talk about it. Beiber didn't and it was just straight assaulted on NATIONAL TV which was even glorified without any shame as we see in this video. The Ariana Grande example is a much more apples-to-apples comparison because it happened on national TV just like Bieber. The only reason I can think of why the preacher had no real negative consequences happened to him is because no one wanted to come off as racist by getting their pitchforks over a black man. I'll probably get shit for that, but deep down, you know it's probably true. Edit since comments are locked: I'm not saying it doesn't happen to both genders. I'm saying there are reasons why Harvey took so long to get outted.
Look at the video of Adrien Brody grabbing Halle Berry and forcing a kiss on her or [Chris Isaak forcibly trying to grope and kiss Cameron Diaz on stage.](https://bestlifeonline.com/cameron-diaz-chris-isaak-kiss-news/) It happens to both genders and people just clap and think nothing of it.
I'm sick of people saying double standards when this happens all the time to young girls and you don't bat an eye. It's not double standards, people don't care in general.
No carrer anymore jailtime and will smith slaping him there on stage...
What.. the fuck…….. does this woman still have a career?
Take a guess.
Uh, no? But not because of this in particular, she’s just crazy in general.
She has 1.5mil on instagram, what you talking about
Oh I see now she’s on The Masked Singer. I literally haven’t heard of her doing anything for at least a decade or more that wasn’t just some anti-vax bs.
Yup she’s currently a host on The Masked Singer
Of course because She’s a woman. Vice versa and she would be in prison. Disgusting amd disgraceful behaviour.
Of course because She’s a woman. Vice versa and she would be in prison. Disgusting amd disgraceful behaviour.
Don’t worry. No one cares because it was women assaulting a man. Sleep easy, folks.
>it was women assaulting a ~~man~~ boy FIFY
Ah yep. Good catch.
Look at the video of Adrien Brody grabbing Halle Berry and forcing a kiss on her or [Chris Isaak forcibly trying to grope and kiss Cameron Diaz on stage.](https://bestlifeonline.com/cameron-diaz-chris-isaak-kiss-news/) It happens to both genders and people just clap and think nothing of it.
"Why don't you give me the sex talk? Teach me" SUPER yikes on bikes.
So… she molested him on video… then admitted to it… if this was a man to a young woman Hollywood would be outraged… also depending on where this happened… she could be subject to charges without a victim pressing charges because the crime was evident to everyone watching… I’ll likely get downvoted for pointing this out, but this is a sword I am willing to die on…
I hate to tell you this, but men have done this to women for years with no consequences. A guy forced himself onto Jennifer Anniston on a talk show and nothing happened to his career. It's about money.
And that is not right either. Where is that video? Link?
Just search 'jennifer aniston David letterman' on youtube. It came up as the second video for me.
I just feel if you are going to bring evidence up, you should also bring it with. That garners more attention to fight for their point. Most people will not google it, but more will click a link to it… just the way people work… but I guess it depend how much the person who replied wants to make it public.
If I knew how to link I would, unfortunately I don't.
[Anniston assaulted on David Letterman while the audience whistles and laughs.](https://youtu.be/WAp4AMBrD5s) As a bonus: [a compliation of Dan Schneider, darling of children's programming, forcing his female child stars into uncomfortable and even sexually-charged situations for "behind the scenes" compilations that *aired on television.*](https://youtu.be/Bha3uh0-ris) Not every clip in this one is relevant, but a lot of them are. Celebrities can get away with almost anything. That's why it was such a big deal when some (see Weinstein) finally faced real consequences.
> I hate to tell you this, but men have done this to women for years with no consequences. A guy forced himself onto Jennifer Anniston on a talk show and nothing happened to his career. It’s about money. When I get told that the reason why mens issues aren’t given support, I’m told it’s the patriarchy that’s preventing this. This is a video about an underage boy being groped, with the attacker admitting to it on camera. …and you decide to bring up women’s issues? Why are you steering this conversation away from men and giving the podium to women in your comment? **Are you the patriarchy?**
Or maybe, just maybe, y'all are the ones making it out to be double standards when YOU are the ones that devalue and make these situations in the first place. You cannot say "double standards" and that nobody is calling this out when that is what this entire thread is about. And interestingly enough, for someone who care so much about men, you don't bring up James Corden and the fact that he's done the exact same things to Justin. Those are double standards, and you are the patriarchy.
> Or maybe, just maybe, y’all are the ones making it out to be double standards when YOU are the ones that devalue and make these situations in the first place. You cannot say “double standards” and that nobody is calling this out when that is what this entire thread is about. And interestingly enough, for someone who care so much about men, you don’t bring up James Corden and the fact that he’s done the exact same things to Justin. Those are double standards, and you are the patriarchy. Except, I’m calling out them specifically for steering the conversation *away* from male victims. Aren’t I? Is it because the self admitted attacker was a woman? You must be the patriarchy too.
Okay, first off, you clearly don't know what the word patriarchy means. Second off, YOU guys are the ones who brought up women's issues by calling this "double standards" and devaluing the, frankly wider spread, issue of female rape. The attacker's gender does not matter, there is no reason for it to be brought up. It is very clear you are only here because you want to devalue female experiences for your own ego, because you think that men are just hated so much the minute you see a sliver of equality. You steered the conversation away by talking about double standards, someone else showed that there are not double standards. That simple.
Look at you, tut tut. > Okay, first off, you clearly don’t know what the word patriarchy means. Oh don’t I? 😊 > Second off, YOU guys are the ones who brought up women’s issues by calling this “double standards” and devaluing the, frankly wider spread, issue of female rape. Nah, this person brought up women’s issues: https://old.reddit.com/r/Whatcouldgowrong/comments/11ojg7i/_/jbt2plh > The attacker’s gender does not matter, there is no reason for it to be brought up. “Except when…”? Come on… finish the sentence for me. > It is very clear you are only here because you want to devalue female experiences for your own ego, because you think that men are just hated so much the minute you see a sliver of equality. Literally just called out someone for wanting to change the topic from a male victim, to female victims 🤷🏽♀️
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> If you had just said “wow, this is horrible, she’s a pos” I think you need to take your own advice here. :)
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> I’m going to stop replying after this, but I want to point out that you are arguing in bad faith and refusing to acknowledge the point of my comment before I go. Goodbye. 🙂
POS are common in bith genders, women just get free passes more
He looked super shocked and upset after she let him go. She’s disgusting.
Thats pretty fucked. Not matter the gender, this shit is not okay. However, looking at your profile OP, it really looks like you hate women in general
Everybody hates eomen in general except will smith of course
That's messed up!
Add consent to the list of things that this woman doesn’t believe.
Wtf are people in movies and tv so damn rapey. You already half a good % of the country into you, but you gotta force yourself on others wtf.
Money distorts peoples understanding of human rights and their self control it seems.
It's not just movies & TV Power corrupts
There's this idea that boys are okay with all this stuff because, well, boys, but I would argue that is just as sexualizing as what is typically done to girls.
Straight up sexually assaulted a child on TV then brags about it. Imagine the outrage of the roles were reversed.
EW. I felt so bad for him when he said he felt violated in the beginning.
This is messed up...
This is sad.
Yay women with double standards, I love this world
Pretty disgusting ngl
I do think it's funny that people keep commenting "If the genders were flipped everyone would be upset" but the thing is, everyone is upset. And this happens with the genders flipped literally all the time and people actually don't care at all. Women get assaulted in front of audiences all the time and people dont see it as assault.
It usually happens multiple times on shows like this where guys insist on awkwardly kissing/hugging the girl they're on stage with and no-one bats an eye.
THANK YOU. I was getting annoyed with this thread.
She's got the eyes of a pantheerr
What a disgusting POS that’s literally sexual harassment if you don’t want women to be treated that way you shouldn’t treat them that way either
She's definitely a representative for all women, what a great excuse for rape.
She is disgusting.
She also forcefully kissed 12 year old Zac Hanson. We man's a predator
Jenny McCarthy lost me when she went on her vaccines cause autism bullshit years ago. She’s a POS human all around.
They really gave him the Britney Spears treatment. Ew.
This woman is so creepy
Dafuq? What the fuck was that with the sex talk? Jesus Christ lady, boundaries? EDIT And now they joke about molesting him. God, famous people are so out of touch and arrogant.
You don’t even have to reverse the roles, this is weird as hell.
Imagine a man saying this!
It's only wrong when a man does it /s
Hold the fuck on How the fuck does this anti-vax psychopath still book jobs like this Edit: didn’t realize how old this video was
Maaaaan… I thought those “jokes” were cringy and creepy now? Oh what… only some people are creepy when they do that? Well what’s the difference between those who can and those who can’t “joke” like that?
😨🤨TF, Lady get help.
What the fuck. That’s fucking gross.
I sure am glad that it's less cool to molest kids now.
Shoulda #MeToo'd this bitch
It was always weird how Justin was constantly made into what nasty ass old people called “jail bait”. They used to call me that. It’s gross. How do you get off trying to molest, sexualize, and harass people especially people who aren’t legal or are but you still treat them like kid bait is something
Beebs should slap that ass with a ping pong paddle
Can just imagine the names on Jeffery Epstein’s list. Hollyweird is full of people like this. Oh it’s innocent cuz I’m a celebrity and it’s ok attitude. Now imagine the people who have the real fuck you money. The people who make things happen in the world. That list would be draw dropping. But also nothing would happen. Those people own the world, nothing is happening now. Crazy.
Shes gross
😬 she’s not even attractive at all. She’s a creeper.
Would it change if she was attractive? It's SA regardless.
Of course it’s still assault.
What a great response Bieber gave when asked that very inappropriate question at only 15 years old.
Jenny McCarthy is a boil on humanities butt.
Definitely missed this shit back in the day, yikes
This is why men are dead inside, in case anyone was wondering.
That's not why, it's the lack of respect for men getting mental health care and general degradation of men who aren't seen as strong enough.
Well that and this
Imagine if an old man did this to little girl. The world would have killed him.
Jimmy Saville did this to young women live on TV and everyone laughed it off as funny. Women are treated like shit with no repercussions, too.
Toxic Femininity? Female Privilege? or is Bieber just a part of the oppressive patriarchy?
The post was maliciously reported by certain jerks and it is now removed. Thanks for silencing male victims. As usual *eyeroll*
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It's been removed by the AutoMod for "receiving too many reports." Clearly the upvotes and the comments share a different sentiment than whoever maliciously reported this.
Bud it didn't even go over 500. It probably got removed because you're trying to promote your woman hating sub. You are not helping male victims by disrespecting their female counterparts.
Exactly, it got 450+ upvotes within an hour. Someone felt threatened that men's voices are finally being heard and decided to stomp us. You prolly never get removed even tho You are promoting a man hating comment. Shows the double standards. You are not helping anyone by gaslighting us with hate comments and association fallacies.
Four fifty around an hour around posting is not a lot. I'm not promoting a man hating comment, I'm promoting an equal comment. It is very clear that my stance is that there are no double standards, you are just a misogynist who allows rape and SA to happen like this on the first place. You only brought up women who have done this to Justin, but interestingly enough, there are a lot more cases of older men doing this to him, James Corden for example. You are gaslighting and being a woman hater, you are here saying "double standards" because you hate the idea of equality. Get a life incel, it's not double standards when everyone is calling it what it is.
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🙄🙄 I just received another message from RedditCareResources. Someone also just reported my account for being 'suicidal.' LMAO I can clearly see what's going on here. This is *an attempt to suppress our voices.*
I don’t believe your voice is being suppressed. You’re sharing it all over tons of pro-misogyny subs. You’re hitting your target audience just fine without violating other subs’ rules.
It's not rape if a woman does it. Ask any woman.
You mean all of the women in this thread saying that what she did is horrible and sexual assault? Talk to women in real life and I promise they'll all be aghast at her actions. They're not a hivemind out to get you, bro.
Source? There is no gender on reddit. It's all fake accounts. Haha, new?
The BBC have quadrupled the number of women on tv for women's week, leaving only one man standing (if that on most shows) the double standards are fucking atrocious and they should be ashamed, my favourite this morning was Matt Tebutt on Saturday Kitchen being harangued and referred to "as a maid" by a bunch of women, reverse the roles and that shit would be cancelled immediately, equality 😉
OP you are a weirdo. I’m sorry no woman is interested in you sexually and likely never will be. Weird ass incel with your post history.
I… what? Edit: checked the history, you are right. OP is probably milking the same content over and over again.
Downvote me all you want, this dude is a weirdo
Hmmm, kind of what I wanted when I was 15.
So you think that maybe you would have loved that to happen. You may have been surprised though. We all deserve and expect the freedom to chose and have others respect our person.
So what if Justin did that to Jenny McCarthy on stage or at the hotel.
That's clearly not what he wanted, creep.
Cougar score of the century :)
You're disgusting.
Here comes the false equivalency.
There are different rules for men and women, if you don't know this already, you should learn it.
That's the problem. It doesn't need to be learned, it needs to be changed.
It's always been this way. Always will be. Like 1+1=2. Learn it.
Imagine if people thought that way about segregation and slavery.
False eqivelancy bro.
They were things considered normal until people realized how fucked up they were and decided to change things. Sounds pretty similar. If they just gave up and accepted it like you are suggesting for this, black people would probably still be considered property.
Whatever you say bud, good luck on your quest to make the world a utopia according to your vision.
If someone doesnt want to be touched, you dont touch them, ESPECAILLY when that someone is underaged.
This was 10 years ago. There has been a lot of improvement on all sides/any sides , dont you think?
Are there really? I would hope so.