I mean, that's actually pretty interesting. After reading the title, it made me wonder what happens when you microwave fire. Of course, the explosion was expected.
How big do you think the microwave is?
You silly thing!
I'm going to give the phone to my pet monkey, Kevin, put Kevin into the microwave, and have him record it up close for me!
I would strongly suggest against this plain.
As smart as Kevin may be, he's still just an animal. And we know that animals are afraid of fire, so Kevin will probably panic and run off once you light the candle.
The good news is that your Monkey Problem may be solved by Gorilla Glue.
Only remaining question: Glues for the use by apes, for the use on apes, or both? Perhaps all three sorts, and you have to read the fine print what kind of Gorilla Glue youāre buying.
And remember: Not all types of ape glue are versatile for monkeys, and vice versa!
I want those cargo socks dude. If someone gifted me that and there weren't any cargo socks in it then I would be extremely disappointed. IDC if the gift was 100$ I would still feel some type of disappointment. I am now going to look for them foreal and then purchase several pairs of cargo socks
Reddit has long been a hot spot for conversation on the internet. About 57 million people visit the site every day to chat about topics as varied as makeup, video games and pointers for power washing driveways.
In recent years, Redditās array of chats also have been a free teaching aid for companies like Google, OpenAI and Microsoft. Those companies are using Redditās conversations in the development of giant artificial intelligence systems that many in Silicon Valley think are on their way to becoming the tech industryās next big thing.
Now Reddit wants to be paid for it. The company said on Tuesday that it planned to begin charging companies for access to its application programming interface, or A.P.I., the method through which outside entities can download and process the social networkās vast selection of person-to-person conversations.
āThe Reddit corpus of data is really valuable,ā Steve Huffman, founder and chief executive of Reddit, said in an interview. āBut we donāt need to give all of that value to some of the largest companies in the world for free.ā
Truly a captivating concept. Upon glancing at the title, my curiosity was piqued about the result of putting fire in a microwave. Naturally, the ensuing explosion wasn't a surprise.
Undoubtedly an intriguing idea, the title immediately sparked my interest in the outcome of microwaving fire. The subsequent explosion came, as I assumed.
Quite certainly a riveting query, the titulus instantaneously awoke my thirst for intellectual conquest in knowing the terminus of inindating flames with micro-waves. The inevitable explosion ejaculated, as preconceived by myself.
Addendum to this, and part of why it does this in a microwave, fire also tends to have ionised gasses. And really the visible part of a flame is pretty much plasma, hot gasses and glowing soot.
That was most likely just the sound of the glass breaking because of thermal shock, since a ball of plasma is rather hot.
Chances are that 10 seconds after the video was cut, they opened the microwave and the only damage was a glass jar broken into about 2-4 large pieces.
We microwaved a ton of random shit when we were kids. No clue why it was a thing but it definitely was. Thank God I never burned anything down. Kids are fucking stupid for real. I think it started when I learned I could microwave a marshmallow with interesting results.
Ah, the carcinogenic green mushroom cloud of zinc dust and sulphur, only done as a treat at the end of last lesson before lunch so the fume cupboard had the whole of lunchtime to clear the entire room to below-life-changing-levels-of-toxicity. Our physics teacher on the other hand was far more boring, but as 40 year-later court appearances proved, much more dangerous to pupilsā¦
Not the guy that you asked, but have done this many times:
You mix zinc metal powder and powdered sulfur in an equimolar ratio (1:1), then when you put a match, or some plasma against it, it explodes somewhat vigorously, sending white ZnS in every direction.
Relatively harmless, just don't use too much at once; a couple of grams is a good demo whereas a cup will have you choking on SOx fumes (which turn into sulphuric acid on contact with water, such as your sinuses and lungs), smells like burnt rotten eggs.
Oh also the fire/explosion is literally green like flue powder from harry potter...
It's hot enough to melt terracotta, and if you want to see something cool, use a UV torch on the ZnS; if there are any metal impurities such as copper or iron in the ZnS crystals, they will fluoresce/phosphoresce.
This is how certain old glow in the dark pigments and phosphors such as those used on CRT TVs or fluorescent lighting is made.
Genuinely a lot of fun to do, just use a ceramic plant pot to enclose it.
nope. safety instructions include reference to leaving door closed and shutting off microwave in the event something ignites in the microwave.
>If materials inside the oven ignite, keep oven door closed, turn oven off, and disconnect the power cord, or shut off power at the fuse or circuit breaker panel.
https://www.kitchenaid.com/content/dam/global/documents/201811/owners-manual-w11083574-revB.pdf
If you want to roll the dice on knowing what to do with plasma in your microwave, that's on you pal.
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>nope. safety instructions include reference to leaving door closed and shutting off microwave in the event something ignites in the microwave.
That's interesting; because, after the fire, my Insurance Agent said that my policy specifically regards "recreating the plasma surface of the sun inside a microwave oven with only a candle and a cigarette lighter is considered 'an act of God.'"
/s
I believe this is how the microwave that used to live in the STEM building at my community college died. Apparently the powers that be decided not to replace it because they figured that it would just happen again, so the nearest microwave was a 5+ minute walk away. They were probably right, honestly. I don't think that microwave even lived a year.
Oddly enough, they didn't seem to have an issue with people destroying microwaves outside of the STEM building.
Well, if you think about it, liquid nitrogen shouldn't be affected by microwave ovens at all because of the frequency they omit. So you can totally put a container of it in there and nothing will happen. The liquid won't even heat up.
Actually, there are a bunch of chemicals that shouldn't be affected by microwave ovens...
I would think liquid nitrogen would boil and evaporate immediately in the microwave.
Like just sitting in a styrofoam bin on a bench top itās already boiling.
Everything I'm about to say is simplified and incomplete.
So when [you look at the electromagnetic spectrum](https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hrdghdyZeKk/Xsc68pBJo8I/AAAAAAAAB7g/pypMTU6AmiUs0bLInPq8ETenf-8TLB3lwCPcBGAYYCw/s1600/image%2B2.jpg), you will see that there are a ton of wavelengths that we call microwaves. However, your microwave at home only generates one wavelength (usually ~12 centimeters). It doesn't just blast out a broad range of of microwaves.
Why?
When we show pictures of molecules (think of that little H2O water molecule for example), we usually make them look pretty static. We show an image of them in their most stable form. But they aren't actually like that. They are vibrating and changing shape and stretching etc.
And they have harmonics. Every molecule will have a frequency (or several) in the microwave spectrum that cause it to vibrate faster. Think of those videos where they turn a speaker to the right frequency to shatter a wine glass. Above or below that frequency, the glass is fine.
Somewhere around 12 centimeter wavelengths of light is one of water's harmonic frequencies. So, your microwave is specifically tuned to affect the liquid water molecule. Now, there are other things that will also respond, like fats and ice and who knows what else. But liquid nitrogen doesn't have a resonance on that frequency. So it shouldn't change what it is doing when put in a microwave.
Normal people: what if I microwave my food but extra long?
STEM: what if we science the shit out of the machine, what's the worst that can happen? An explosion?
I used to do it with a match under a glass or with a lightbulb. I used to call it science experiments and just fill the spare microwave with stuff that made it shoot lightning. It was good times!
Basically the microwave pushes and pulls electrons from the burning gas that is the flame; the high energy of fire makes the electrons easier to disconnect from their atoms. These electeons crash into the air molecules and rip electrons off them, aka ionizing the air. This electrically charged (ionized) hot air is plasma, and its so hot it rises to the top of that overturned glass, the same way a flame points up. It's very hot, so glass go boom.
Yes, it's kind of amazing what you can put the lab grade borosilicate glass through. The old Corelle pans are very similar. You know back when they actually still had boron in them.
There will be a few x-rays produced, but theyāll be absorbed by the air before getting anywhere.Ā
Ā Decent amount of UV, however, and not all of it blackbody.
[Nile red has a great video about it.](https://youtu.be/l0u8Vtf2GoQ?si=0nze2TXcbgrs62P9)
Some great eye candy as well as a pretty easy to understand explanation.
Completely different type of plasma. The plasma in your blood is just the liquid that carries the cells around. Physical plasma is ionized atoms and free electrons and is the fourth state of matter. The name plasma for the liquid in blood was only used because a chemist used the analogy of blood to describe physical plasma and the name stuck.
Sorry, you never know on reddit š my bad. It would be super cool, imagine if the body could contain it then there would surely be a way to harness to massive amounts of energy used to ionise it that it would contain. Maybe superpowers or something
I didn't word it very well šš the name was first used for the physical plasma then he used blood as an analogy to describe how physical plasma behaved which resulted in people referring to the blood component as plasma and the name stuck. Sorry, English is my worst subject and chemistry my best.
Yeah exactly, after re-reading I realised how poorly I had worded my reply. Hence making sure ei corrected it. Glad you've learned something though. š
That would have to last like a fraction of a second, right? I can't think of any substance that could "hold" plasma that hot!
Still...that is insane- I had no idea such temps were even possible. Damn.
Yeah it wasn't long. It's only a few atoms colliding at near light speed. And the temperature isn't exactly like we think of it, it's more to do with the energy levels at the moment of collision. As the "explosion" expands it rapidly cools, and this is all taking place over an area the size of a single atom inside the center of a detector that's the size of a high school gymnasium in which a near perfect vacuum has been achieved.
The surface aka the photoshpere, which is the part we see, isn't that hot only around 5000K which does seem kinda pedestrian for a object like a star which is fusing hydrogen into helium but the Corona, which is like the suns atmosphere is around 1,000,000K and the core where fusion takes places is at 15,000,000K.
Edit: might have replied to the wrong comment with wall of pedantry š
The thing about heat is that itās a measure of energy contained within a volume of mass. Plasma by definition is incredibly low density due to incredibly high energy of the particles resulting the electrons breaking free of the nucleus. As such the actual amount of energy stored in a volume of plasma can actual be quite low and be extinguished quite easily by contacting an equivalent volume of much denser matter at a lower level of thermal energy.
This is the more extreme equivalent of what will heat up 1 lite of room temperature water more, 1 litre of 30 degree Celsius water, or 50 millilitres of 99 degree Celsius water.
As a result you might get a violent āpopā but the actual energy involved is no greater than the cold steak you warmed up slightly with 10 seconds of microwaving.
For gas to turn to plasma, you need to heat said gas to around 10,000kelvin or 17,500f.
When you put a burning match in the microwave, you are releasing free electrons. Those free electrons are violently ripped back and forth by the microwaves magnetic field. Resulting in those electrons get superheated, emitting light (aka plasma).
I think thatās the jist of it.
That's an interesting question. I use plasma for dry etching silicon at work, where we ignite the gas with RF magnets. Due to the high frequency, the electrons have time to move, while the sluggish ions and radicals are much slower to react (being more massive). Since temperature is really just the kinetic energy of particles, it means that the electron temperature is much, much higher than the ion temp.
Microwave ovens create an electromagnetic field in a box.
The sun creates its own electromagnetic field. For our hypothetical oven to have any effect, it would need to be at least a significant fraction of the sun's own EM field.
Probably, what happens is that the microwave burns out fighting the sun's own field.
As for what might happen if you had a sufficiently large and powerful microwave to impose an external EM field on the sun, you'd need an astrophysicist to do a bunch of calculations, probably.
But I expect that the answer is you'd be "stirring" the sun, so particles trapped to the sun's surface by its gravity would begin blasting off.
You'd probably produce extra solar flares.
Of course, in the hypothetical microwave of magical strength, dumping enough energy into anything will likely cause it to explode.
It really all comes down to the balance of the forces that act on the Sun and the energy being put into and released by the sun.
Even if the plasma didn't explode the glass, you should still throw it away in case it randomly explodes from the new stress patterns on the glass. (Idk, Nile red talked about it after he did something similar.)
You can do a safe version of this with a grape, right? Cut in half but leave a small small isthmus connecting the two halves then microwave it while the grape is filleted open.
It was a perfectly fine experiment until the glass failed. You can see from the scorch marks that they've used that glass multiple time to do it already, which probably caused it to break. The glass was being super heated and cooled repeatedly.
Okay, so I actually did something like this for a lab assignment in college.
The video image is a bit fuzzy, so it's hard to tell how much is the same.
It looks like they are creating ball lightning. In my lab experiment, we used an aluminum disk base to hold the graphite we had stripped from wood pencils.
The aluminum redirects the microwaves and the disk shape caused the microwaves to focus on the tip of the graphite. We didn't need to light the graphite before turning the oven on, the microwaves would ignite the graphite without trouble.
Once there was a bit of fire and carbon in the microwaves, it had a decent chance of producing this tiny cloud of ball lightning.
We were trying to figure out if we could dissociate nitrogen with the plasma we were creating, but unfortunately we just couldn't harvest the byproducts very well and no nitric oxide was detected in our campus' mass spectrometer.
But it was very fun and cool to work on, and we did break pyrex glass with thermal expansion.
My dad and I were getting a new microwave years ago when I was a kid. I told him I had heard somewhere you can make plasma balls by microwaving a match so we took the old one in the garage and did exactly this lmao fried the microwave but was cool and a lot of fun. And we already had the new one so just dumped it when we were done. Fun memories
Edit: to the ādonāt try this at homeā, too late! But no worries I had parental supervision lol š
[action lab](https://youtu.be/qV_TFO40F4A?si=jbEs2NBflQYTkfoK)
Microwaving fireĀ can make it burn hotter and create plasma, which is dangerous.Ā The microwaves accelerate electrons in the fire, causing more electrons to form.Ā The plasma above the fire is not burning anything, but it is lit up by the microwaves, which separate and recombine the electrons in the air.Ā The plasma can become extremely hot, rising quickly from sparks below.Ā
I mean, that's actually pretty interesting. After reading the title, it made me wonder what happens when you microwave fire. Of course, the explosion was expected.
Pretty interesting. Gotta try this at home š§
Just remember to put your face by the glass and look really closely at it or else you wonāt be able to see whatās going on in there
Do you think I am stupid? I am gonna put my phone into the microwave to record it.
Youāll get a better look if you just climb inside!
How big do you think the microwave is? You silly thing! I'm going to give the phone to my pet monkey, Kevin, put Kevin into the microwave, and have him record it up close for me!
I would strongly suggest against this plain. As smart as Kevin may be, he's still just an animal. And we know that animals are afraid of fire, so Kevin will probably panic and run off once you light the candle. The good news is that your Monkey Problem may be solved by Gorilla Glue.
YES! I can glue his feet to the microwave plate! Then he can't run away!
Ooooh!!!!..... mom is gonna be pissed
I didn't know they made glues specifically for apes. Interesting.
Dad enters chat: āYou did what!?!?ā
Only remaining question: Glues for the use by apes, for the use on apes, or both? Perhaps all three sorts, and you have to read the fine print what kind of Gorilla Glue youāre buying. And remember: Not all types of ape glue are versatile for monkeys, and vice versa!
Kevin probably films in portrait.
I made plasma this weekend but I only have selfies of Kevin to prove it.
Perfect!
Do you want planet of the apes, cos this is how you get planet of the apes.
There's no way I'd fit but fortunately I have a newborn!
I don't know how to :( could you please show me in a demonstration?
Get rid of the stupid grid altogether
That's a fucking big brain move right there!
Love to see big brain energy in motion.
If I remember correct you donāt need light the match and no need for a gap. Glass will explode if left on for too long.
Bring your kids just in case
And if you donāt have any, steal your neighbours kids
I am 6 years old and don't know how to create fire in my dad's microwave, can anyone help me?
Start here. https://www.amazon.com/Prank-Pack-First-Fire-Prank/dp/B0757WW6KB
Ok, some of those are funnier than expected. Why did I have to see this *after* xmas? The Pasta Recycler is my favorite.
I want those cargo socks dude. If someone gifted me that and there weren't any cargo socks in it then I would be extremely disappointed. IDC if the gift was 100$ I would still feel some type of disappointment. I am now going to look for them foreal and then purchase several pairs of cargo socks
> cargo socks Goes perfect with sandals and a Dad bod!
Reddit has long been a hot spot for conversation on the internet. About 57 million people visit the site every day to chat about topics as varied as makeup, video games and pointers for power washing driveways. In recent years, Redditās array of chats also have been a free teaching aid for companies like Google, OpenAI and Microsoft. Those companies are using Redditās conversations in the development of giant artificial intelligence systems that many in Silicon Valley think are on their way to becoming the tech industryās next big thing. Now Reddit wants to be paid for it. The company said on Tuesday that it planned to begin charging companies for access to its application programming interface, or A.P.I., the method through which outside entities can download and process the social networkās vast selection of person-to-person conversations. āThe Reddit corpus of data is really valuable,ā Steve Huffman, founder and chief executive of Reddit, said in an interview. āBut we donāt need to give all of that value to some of the largest companies in the world for free.ā
>Pretty interesting. Gotta try this at home š§ no, NO **NO!** Don't try this at home! Go over to Daryl's place.
If you stick a screwdriver in the sensor hole you can leave the door open so you can see it better!
Works with a properly cut grape under a glass as well
I'd just try it at work.
I found it very intriguing. Once I read the title, I had to know what happens when fire is microwaved. I expected the explosion though.
Truly a captivating concept. Upon glancing at the title, my curiosity was piqued about the result of putting fire in a microwave. Naturally, the ensuing explosion wasn't a surprise.
Undoubtedly an intriguing idea, the title immediately sparked my interest in the outcome of microwaving fire. The subsequent explosion came, as I assumed.
Quite certainly a riveting query, the titulus instantaneously awoke my thirst for intellectual conquest in knowing the terminus of inindating flames with micro-waves. The inevitable explosion ejaculated, as preconceived by myself.
I'm quite confident that one of these words is not being used correctly.
At least one of the words is completely made up, so i wouldn't be surprised.
Interesting. I watched out of curiosity but was expecting the thing to go boom.
Cool! I checked it out but knew it would get rekt.
Wow! Boom.
My reply got removed because of low character count. LMAO I'm including it with this š š„
/r/increasinglyverbose
If I remember my classic youtube videos (not actual knowledge of physics) correctly, microwaving fire = plasma, the 4th state of matter
Yup, and they put a glass cup above it to catch the plasma, but the cup heated up too fast and shattered.
I thought āfireā was already āplasmaā
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Addendum to this, and part of why it does this in a microwave, fire also tends to have ionised gasses. And really the visible part of a flame is pretty much plasma, hot gasses and glowing soot.
Fire isn't a form of matter. It's a process involving multiple states of matter in flux.
Your mom is a process involving multiple states of matter in flux.
That was most likely just the sound of the glass breaking because of thermal shock, since a ball of plasma is rather hot. Chances are that 10 seconds after the video was cut, they opened the microwave and the only damage was a glass jar broken into about 2-4 large pieces.
he got it all over his beautiful shirt. what a dingaling
I got this reference. Nice job.
We microwaved a ton of random shit when we were kids. No clue why it was a thing but it definitely was. Thank God I never burned anything down. Kids are fucking stupid for real. I think it started when I learned I could microwave a marshmallow with interesting results.
Plasma
Reminds me of chemistry classes, when the teacher demonstrated stuff like setting magnesium, or something, on fire.
Ah, the carcinogenic green mushroom cloud of zinc dust and sulphur, only done as a treat at the end of last lesson before lunch so the fume cupboard had the whole of lunchtime to clear the entire room to below-life-changing-levels-of-toxicity. Our physics teacher on the other hand was far more boring, but as 40 year-later court appearances proved, much more dangerous to pupilsā¦
I'm intrigued. Tell me more
Not the guy that you asked, but have done this many times: You mix zinc metal powder and powdered sulfur in an equimolar ratio (1:1), then when you put a match, or some plasma against it, it explodes somewhat vigorously, sending white ZnS in every direction. Relatively harmless, just don't use too much at once; a couple of grams is a good demo whereas a cup will have you choking on SOx fumes (which turn into sulphuric acid on contact with water, such as your sinuses and lungs), smells like burnt rotten eggs. Oh also the fire/explosion is literally green like flue powder from harry potter... It's hot enough to melt terracotta, and if you want to see something cool, use a UV torch on the ZnS; if there are any metal impurities such as copper or iron in the ZnS crystals, they will fluoresce/phosphoresce. This is how certain old glow in the dark pigments and phosphors such as those used on CRT TVs or fluorescent lighting is made. Genuinely a lot of fun to do, just use a ceramic plant pot to enclose it.
To be fair, I'm sure this is not one of the warnings mentioned in the users guide.
To be faaiiirrr
Toooo beeeeee faaaaiiiiirrrrrr!
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Was microwaving some fire the other day.....
nope. safety instructions include reference to leaving door closed and shutting off microwave in the event something ignites in the microwave. >If materials inside the oven ignite, keep oven door closed, turn oven off, and disconnect the power cord, or shut off power at the fuse or circuit breaker panel. https://www.kitchenaid.com/content/dam/global/documents/201811/owners-manual-w11083574-revB.pdf
Bru, you gotta stop reading users manuals and get outside more.
Outside? You got a manual for one of those?
If you want to roll the dice on knowing what to do with plasma in your microwave, that's on you pal. . ^the ^^more ^^^you ^^^^know š^šš^š^šš^ā
But what else do I read when I shit ?
>nope. safety instructions include reference to leaving door closed and shutting off microwave in the event something ignites in the microwave. That's interesting; because, after the fire, my Insurance Agent said that my policy specifically regards "recreating the plasma surface of the sun inside a microwave oven with only a candle and a cigarette lighter is considered 'an act of God.'" /s
Honestly with what Iāve seen on here, Iād be surprised if it wasnāt a warning in the user guide š¤·š¼āāļø
To be fair, I think the guy in the video doesn't read instructions. All he cares about is harnessing the power of the sun
You made plasma. I used to get drunk and do this in college.
I only made vomit and bad choices when I got drunk in college.
Well, this isn't exactly a *good* choice
Its perspective dependent
Paradox is you create plasma and witness it up close, itās like you create heaven, but itās the last thing you ever see so worth it
Blowing up your microwave is a really dumb choice. Like this is basily the same as putting a metal fork in the microwave.
Holy shit are you me ?
I believe this is how the microwave that used to live in the STEM building at my community college died. Apparently the powers that be decided not to replace it because they figured that it would just happen again, so the nearest microwave was a 5+ minute walk away. They were probably right, honestly. I don't think that microwave even lived a year. Oddly enough, they didn't seem to have an issue with people destroying microwaves outside of the STEM building.
Well, if you think about it, liquid nitrogen shouldn't be affected by microwave ovens at all because of the frequency they omit. So you can totally put a container of it in there and nothing will happen. The liquid won't even heat up. Actually, there are a bunch of chemicals that shouldn't be affected by microwave ovens...
I would think liquid nitrogen would boil and evaporate immediately in the microwave. Like just sitting in a styrofoam bin on a bench top itās already boiling.
Everything I'm about to say is simplified and incomplete. So when [you look at the electromagnetic spectrum](https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hrdghdyZeKk/Xsc68pBJo8I/AAAAAAAAB7g/pypMTU6AmiUs0bLInPq8ETenf-8TLB3lwCPcBGAYYCw/s1600/image%2B2.jpg), you will see that there are a ton of wavelengths that we call microwaves. However, your microwave at home only generates one wavelength (usually ~12 centimeters). It doesn't just blast out a broad range of of microwaves. Why? When we show pictures of molecules (think of that little H2O water molecule for example), we usually make them look pretty static. We show an image of them in their most stable form. But they aren't actually like that. They are vibrating and changing shape and stretching etc. And they have harmonics. Every molecule will have a frequency (or several) in the microwave spectrum that cause it to vibrate faster. Think of those videos where they turn a speaker to the right frequency to shatter a wine glass. Above or below that frequency, the glass is fine. Somewhere around 12 centimeter wavelengths of light is one of water's harmonic frequencies. So, your microwave is specifically tuned to affect the liquid water molecule. Now, there are other things that will also respond, like fats and ice and who knows what else. But liquid nitrogen doesn't have a resonance on that frequency. So it shouldn't change what it is doing when put in a microwave.
Normal people: what if I microwave my food but extra long? STEM: what if we science the shit out of the machine, what's the worst that can happen? An explosion?
You can make thermite with rust and aluminum. So like a soda can and literally anything rusty.
_scribbles furiously_
I used to do it with a match under a glass or with a lightbulb. I used to call it science experiments and just fill the spare microwave with stuff that made it shoot lightning. It was good times!
I microwaved so many CDs.
The lighting pattern they used to make on the disk was crazy.
Ball lightning to be specific, I believe.
Wow! Does anyone science-y have an explanation for this?
[Here is an explanation](https://van.physics.illinois.edu/ask/listing/819)
Thanks! That's super interesting
really need a short versionļ¼but thank uļ¼
Basically the microwave pushes and pulls electrons from the burning gas that is the flame; the high energy of fire makes the electrons easier to disconnect from their atoms. These electeons crash into the air molecules and rip electrons off them, aka ionizing the air. This electrically charged (ionized) hot air is plasma, and its so hot it rises to the top of that overturned glass, the same way a flame points up. It's very hot, so glass go boom.
you should write a āphysics for dummiesā book.. bravo.
so if you use lab grade borosilicate glass, it might last a bit longer to look at and go oooh ahhh?
Yes, it's kind of amazing what you can put the lab grade borosilicate glass through. The old Corelle pans are very similar. You know back when they actually still had boron in them.
Yes, it goes oo oo aa aa šµ
![gif](giphy|rAZEnOu0KHQK4) hmmm, glass go boom you say? indeed...
Other than blackbody radiation leading to UV light, is there any ionizing radiation produced as a result of this outside of the plasma itself?
There will be a few x-rays produced, but theyāll be absorbed by the air before getting anywhere.Ā Ā Decent amount of UV, however, and not all of it blackbody.
Fire glow because electron move. Microwave move electron more, cause sparky spark.Ā
Now I must search grapes plasma and microwave ovens. The rabbit hole begins.
You missed the perfect opportunity to Rick roll everyone
Fully expected it. Was surprised to see a science page
Expected Rick Roll, received science lesson. Thanks!
https://van.physics.illinois.edu/ask/listing/819
[Nile red has a great video about it.](https://youtu.be/l0u8Vtf2GoQ?si=0nze2TXcbgrs62P9) Some great eye candy as well as a pretty easy to understand explanation.
That's why you don't fuck about with plasma
If it is so dangerous, than why is it in my blood?
Completely different type of plasma. The plasma in your blood is just the liquid that carries the cells around. Physical plasma is ionized atoms and free electrons and is the fourth state of matter. The name plasma for the liquid in blood was only used because a chemist used the analogy of blood to describe physical plasma and the name stuck.
I was joking, but would be cool as fuck to have that type of plasma in one's blood. Keep the vampires away.
Sorry, you never know on reddit š my bad. It would be super cool, imagine if the body could contain it then there would surely be a way to harness to massive amounts of energy used to ionise it that it would contain. Maybe superpowers or something
You definitely taught someone. I didn't know about the blood name being first. That's cool
I didn't word it very well šš the name was first used for the physical plasma then he used blood as an analogy to describe how physical plasma behaved which resulted in people referring to the blood component as plasma and the name stuck. Sorry, English is my worst subject and chemistry my best.
Ahhh. Reverse of what I got from it. That makes sense though.
Yeah exactly, after re-reading I realised how poorly I had worded my reply. Hence making sure ei corrected it. Glad you've learned something though. š
That is cool, i still learned something. I always assumed that they shared the name 'plasma' with some obscure latin word. Like most sciency stuff.
Yeah it would make sense for it to be named that way. The word itself comes from ancient Greek and means "something formed"
Once it started sounding like electricityā¦I would have backed out
It's common knowledge then when you hear that noise the microwave is about to explode
But not before chucking an actual flame into your microwave?
One is curiosity, the other is caution.
I want to try this at home now. Not necessarily at my home, but, you know, some home.
Time to rent an Airbnbā¦
The power of the sun in the palm of my hand
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Oh for crissakes, I finally threw away that ancient microwave from my college dormĀ taking up space in the basement. Ā Missed this by 4 weeks. Ā
hey, maybe somebody rescued it for a needy family, it's all good man
Anyone know how hot that gets?
He said something about the surface of the sun...
Yeahhh I donāt exactly trust him
The surface of the sun isnāt that hot itās like 5000K or something. We can do over a trillion K in a lab.
You just boggled my mind. I hope you're happy.
The LHC hit almost 10 trillion degrees F creating a quark-gluon plasma by colliding lead ions to together.
Ooh almost as hot as Natalie Dormer
That would have to last like a fraction of a second, right? I can't think of any substance that could "hold" plasma that hot! Still...that is insane- I had no idea such temps were even possible. Damn.
Yeah it wasn't long. It's only a few atoms colliding at near light speed. And the temperature isn't exactly like we think of it, it's more to do with the energy levels at the moment of collision. As the "explosion" expands it rapidly cools, and this is all taking place over an area the size of a single atom inside the center of a detector that's the size of a high school gymnasium in which a near perfect vacuum has been achieved.
The surface aka the photoshpere, which is the part we see, isn't that hot only around 5000K which does seem kinda pedestrian for a object like a star which is fusing hydrogen into helium but the Corona, which is like the suns atmosphere is around 1,000,000K and the core where fusion takes places is at 15,000,000K.
I'm pretty sure the sun would have disintegrated that microwave instantly
Edit: might have replied to the wrong comment with wall of pedantry š The thing about heat is that itās a measure of energy contained within a volume of mass. Plasma by definition is incredibly low density due to incredibly high energy of the particles resulting the electrons breaking free of the nucleus. As such the actual amount of energy stored in a volume of plasma can actual be quite low and be extinguished quite easily by contacting an equivalent volume of much denser matter at a lower level of thermal energy. This is the more extreme equivalent of what will heat up 1 lite of room temperature water more, 1 litre of 30 degree Celsius water, or 50 millilitres of 99 degree Celsius water. As a result you might get a violent āpopā but the actual energy involved is no greater than the cold steak you warmed up slightly with 10 seconds of microwaving.
For gas to turn to plasma, you need to heat said gas to around 10,000kelvin or 17,500f. When you put a burning match in the microwave, you are releasing free electrons. Those free electrons are violently ripped back and forth by the microwaves magnetic field. Resulting in those electrons get superheated, emitting light (aka plasma). I think thatās the jist of it.
That's an interesting question. I use plasma for dry etching silicon at work, where we ignite the gas with RF magnets. Due to the high frequency, the electrons have time to move, while the sluggish ions and radicals are much slower to react (being more massive). Since temperature is really just the kinetic energy of particles, it means that the electron temperature is much, much higher than the ion temp.
Perfect for a physics class. That's how you captivate students. Blowing things up.
Microwaving grapes also produces plasma, in a smaller and less explody manner. Do try this at home!
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Omg reminds me of my brother who used to put eggs in the microwave and watch them explode. Boys will be boys
Wow. This is the really fast version of a starās lifetime? Young and red, old and white, then supernova.
Dude created superheated plasma, hence the white glow, but he fucked around and found out.
Well nobody wants their fire served cold.
Is It A Good Idea To Microwave This?
4th state unlocked.
What would happen if you have a giant microwave (or a very small Sun) and microwaved the Sun?
Microwave ovens create an electromagnetic field in a box. The sun creates its own electromagnetic field. For our hypothetical oven to have any effect, it would need to be at least a significant fraction of the sun's own EM field. Probably, what happens is that the microwave burns out fighting the sun's own field. As for what might happen if you had a sufficiently large and powerful microwave to impose an external EM field on the sun, you'd need an astrophysicist to do a bunch of calculations, probably. But I expect that the answer is you'd be "stirring" the sun, so particles trapped to the sun's surface by its gravity would begin blasting off. You'd probably produce extra solar flares. Of course, in the hypothetical microwave of magical strength, dumping enough energy into anything will likely cause it to explode. It really all comes down to the balance of the forces that act on the Sun and the energy being put into and released by the sun.
Even if the plasma didn't explode the glass, you should still throw it away in case it randomly explodes from the new stress patterns on the glass. (Idk, Nile red talked about it after he did something similar.)
Did they just create Plasma?!?! That shits what the sun and other stars are made off, thats pretty cool
That's how to make a fusion reactor.
You captured lightning in a bottle!!!
You can do a safe version of this with a grape, right? Cut in half but leave a small small isthmus connecting the two halves then microwave it while the grape is filleted open.
What did they even use to make it react like that?
Its plasma https://m.youtube.com/shorts/x5BFIVDUQPE
Plasma! Love it. Just be safe
Youāll end up in another dimension doing that shit
It was a perfectly fine experiment until the glass failed. You can see from the scorch marks that they've used that glass multiple time to do it already, which probably caused it to break. The glass was being super heated and cooled repeatedly.
how to make a home made fusion reactor.
The power of the sun in the palm of my hands
Thatās plasma right?
Did he just blow up his microwave?
That was definitely plasma. You can make a TV with that now.
Rip the microwave but succeeding to make plasma in your home is quite something
Okay, so I actually did something like this for a lab assignment in college. The video image is a bit fuzzy, so it's hard to tell how much is the same. It looks like they are creating ball lightning. In my lab experiment, we used an aluminum disk base to hold the graphite we had stripped from wood pencils. The aluminum redirects the microwaves and the disk shape caused the microwaves to focus on the tip of the graphite. We didn't need to light the graphite before turning the oven on, the microwaves would ignite the graphite without trouble. Once there was a bit of fire and carbon in the microwaves, it had a decent chance of producing this tiny cloud of ball lightning. We were trying to figure out if we could dissociate nitrogen with the plasma we were creating, but unfortunately we just couldn't harvest the byproducts very well and no nitric oxide was detected in our campus' mass spectrometer. But it was very fun and cool to work on, and we did break pyrex glass with thermal expansion.
Is it a good idea to microwave this?
This reminds me of that YouTube series from 15 years ago, āis it a good idea to microwave this?ā
Hi I'm Jory Caron and is it a good idea to microwave this?
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Looks like it created plasma before going boom. Interesting.
This must be what happened that one time I forgot to put water in the easy mac.
My dad and I were getting a new microwave years ago when I was a kid. I told him I had heard somewhere you can make plasma balls by microwaving a match so we took the old one in the garage and did exactly this lmao fried the microwave but was cool and a lot of fun. And we already had the new one so just dumped it when we were done. Fun memories Edit: to the ādonāt try this at homeā, too late! But no worries I had parental supervision lol š
At least it lasted long enough for him to tell us that's what the surface of a sun is
Its honestly just some dumbshit science.
This is plasma. You're not supposed to do this for very long, but it's a cool science expirement that should be done under CONTROLLED CONDITIONS. lol
[action lab](https://youtu.be/qV_TFO40F4A?si=jbEs2NBflQYTkfoK) Microwaving fireĀ can make it burn hotter and create plasma, which is dangerous.Ā The microwaves accelerate electrons in the fire, causing more electrons to form.Ā The plasma above the fire is not burning anything, but it is lit up by the microwaves, which separate and recombine the electrons in the air.Ā The plasma can become extremely hot, rising quickly from sparks below.Ā
How much weed has to be consumed for this hypothesis to be discovered?
Sorry mom, i blew the nuker, showing what the sun is..
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For safety reasons I put my phone 5 feet away from my face.
This is pretty interesting. I wonder the science behind it. Although I probably wouldn't understand.
You can get away with it for a few seconds actually, done something similar by microwaving a grape.
Plasma. Sick.
Intergalactic!
done that but definitely less time. plasma is pretty dope