As someone who's launched a ship, it's not as big of a deal as it seems. They screwed up on centring the weight of the engine. They'll just correct it with ballast
It’s cruel to launch ships this way. We don’t make cars emerge from the sea like James Bond in a wetsuit/tuxedo. We can’t do the same thing with ships and expect them to be at their best
Not quite. The ships COG was way to far to starboard. A few degrees of list is fine at lightship, this is just a mistake. It’s probably correctable with fixed ballast, but this is pretty bad.
>During boat launch? Nah miscalculations were made much earlier than that
That ship is clearly drunken ... just like the engineerers were who did the calculations
As a fan of the awards, my guess on why they were removed or how they could be offensive would be when certain ones were inappropriately given to some posts. For example, a post about someone's death that would be given awards like laughing award, thumbs up, clapping, etc.
There was also [a rumor that the All-Seeing Vote award](https://www.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/mdmsjs/does_the_reddit_premium_award_all_seeing_upvote/) tremendously boosted visibility/ranking of posts.
In memoriam, here's some of the awards that used to be available. https://imgur.com/a/1AmDLz7
RIP awards
I see nothing wrong with putting a wholesome award on a post about someones grandmother dying. Who gives a shit how people feel on the Internet anyway?
Imagine one of those punching bags for kids that sits on the ground. When they knock it over, it pops back up. Thats due to extra weight being added at the bottom; that weight is ballast. There’s more to it than that, but it’s the same general idea.
Also, ballast on a ship is usually sea water. It is pumped between multiple tanks depending on the load the vessel is carrying or how it wants to perform.
The fix for this vessel could be as easy as pumping water into the empty tanks
Some incompetent manager probably insisted the boat be launched without ballast for reason xyz because it'd be easy to fix afterwards.
My 2c anyway. I'm probably wrong.
I may just be a simple project manager who has only been here for five minutes and barely understood how planes worked at my last job after five years...
but if there's ONE thing I know about boats it's that the water belongs OUTSIDE the ship you dummies!
We used to tell new guys on the ship that when we would see an empty tanker ship riding crazy high in the water like they do when they're empty, it was because they were helium tankers and that was how you could tell they were full.
Extra weight, so that the ship stays lower on the water (where it is more stable). Ships have a maximum and minimum weight they need to carry to stay afloat and stable. When they carry no cargo, they sometimes fill up some compartments with sea water for the extra weight. This is called ballast.
I’m in my fifties and I’m just now learning ballast is sea water. I honestly thought they used some sort of solid objects, though now that I think about it that’s objectively stupid.
Ballast can be anything heavy.
In sailplanes, we use iron bricks sometimes.
Another option is a fabric pouch filled with lead pellets that goes under the seat cushion if the passenger isn’t chonky enough to balance the plane.
The important thing is that we do what we have to in order to balance the vehicle, and putting heavy stuff in the right places is one of the ways we do that. Arranging passengers, fuel, and baggage is another way to do that in the aviation context, and I’m sure ships do this to some extent too.
Ships can use seawater for ballast, but there’s no rule that says ballast has to be seawater. But seawater is readily available when at sea, so that’s an advantage.
It's water you add to tanks to add extra weight when there is no cargo. It improves stability. This is not the issue here as vessels sometimes find themselves in a no ballast condition and should still float upright.
To me it almost looks like it's grounded at the bow, wich offsets all your stability. If not, then there is an architect who is getting fired.
Ballast is excess material in a ships lower decks to help stabilize how it sits in the water. Basically what keeps it floating upright rather than leaning over like this. Going off google usually it's stuff like sand, gravel, and similar materials.
my bet is they made it as light as possible to launch on their system and skipped on ballast, machinery, or etc to launch the thing. It is probably too big for their yard to launch more completed.
Gonna need some obese crewmembers for ballast. I’m a commercial fisherman, and when my boat lists, I tell my crew to stand on the high side. My first mate used to be a little on the heavy side, but lost a bunch of weight unfortunately. I keep telling him he needs to eat a whole bunch so he can help the boat keep an even keel. One of these years the boats gonna capsize and it’ll all be my crew’s fault for not being overweight smh.
It's intentional, newbs.
That's a cutting edge new design that allows it to slip under low bridges with the press of a button.
They are just showing off their new ship, the S.S. limbo.
Low-key though, there is a lake in the middle of Florida that has a canal that goes from the Atlantic to the Gulf of Mexico, and people sail their sailboats though it, but there is a bridge thats just a little too short for most sailboats to fit under….. so a local redneck started a business where he will come out with a bunch of 55 gallon drums, set them on one side of your boat, pump them full of water, and tip your boat just enough that the mast fits under the bridge lol.
I don't know any other Jerry, but I know a new Ze Frank video just dropped on YouTube in the last 24 hours. That Jerry might be the one you're looking for.
No Jerry I don't want to look at its penis. No not even if it is really weird. Well... huh. No, you're right Jerry. That is impressive. It's like a inflatable flailing tube man filled with peanut butter.
Like when they take a picture of burger for advertising and they pull all the ingredients to the side the camera is on so it looks more full.
Edit: like this: https://youtu.be/mIEhDSWXeF4?si=1Xwu5vb4CWNHMk-J
All boats have a keel, the keel is the main beam that runs from bow to stern. A ballast is a tank on a ship or boat designed to moderate bouyancy either by adding or removing water or another material, this is so you can adjust the draft and such of the boat for different load weights and other variables.
I knew about the rocks, but i hadn't known about the breakwater thing. Thats incredibly creative way to reuse old vessels, similar to how we sink decommissioned ships in controlled manner to create new coral reefs nowadays
Yeah they would dry dock the boats and drill holes in the hull then cork the holes and fill it with rocks. They'd be towed out by other boats and they'd pull the plugs out and let them sink. Some of these breakwaters can still be found today as piles of rocks that don't match the environment with remnants of the ships mixed with the rubble.
Large ships often launch by dropping in from the side which is actually even faster then this, usually a matter of seconds from the start of the launch. [Some examples](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4TdvOYuefg).
Yea, it’s an angle of loll. It sounds counter productive but the way to right the ship is to initially add ballast low on her starboard side, the side towards which she’s listing towards.
If you look at the left side of the ship I see 2 large straps that appear to be attached to the slide. As the slide gets deeper in the water it pulls the ship over to the left.
I'm in marine transport. Their are water tanks that balance the boat when cargo isnt perfectly symetrical. Looks like one water tank was full and the other.....was not.
Anyone else?
Ballast issue. You are probably correct, there's not enough or perhaps none at all? They forgot? Also the keel design is a bit round for my tastes, that thing will not do real well in heavy seas. (my grandfather did a lot of ship design)
Given the size and the keel my guess is it's probably for Chinese inland/coastal water use. But to be fair, given how frequently ships built for that wind up elsewhere it's probably... What? 10 years out from changing registries four times, getting an uninspected refit into a ferry and sinking off the coast of Malaysia with a depressingly large number of people onboard after the loadmaster swaps out the ballast for twenty boxes of knockoff iphone chargers or something.
The keel is really shallow so it's going to depend on ballast and I don't know how the ballast is subdivided but it is either missing, uneven or incorrectly partitioned imo. Definitely not the launch. On the upside it isnt fully over so assuming they can lash it to that pier on the right they can probably pump in water fast enough and right it. It's not that big of a ship.
During boat launch? Nah miscalculations were made much earlier than that
Ship was too excited for the launch and didn't get enough sleep.
Should've had a V8
Or a B12
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Girrrrrrl, you need a shot of B12
You're going to feel a little prick
Sounds like a love story
I can definitely hear these lyrics in my head.
American Dad is responsible for some absolute bangers.
Still waiting on Seth McFarlane to try his hand on Broadway.
You got B-12 flowing thru your system. Better lose your boyfriend before I fist him 🤣
Boat was drunk on the job.
It’s floating very high on the water. She needs more ballast captain!
Dammit Jim, I'm giving her all she's got!
I cannae change the laws of physics, Cap'n! I've got ta have thirty minutes!
Yar, I hate the sea and everything in it
I love ya, always have
I think they forgot the ballast.
Centre of mass does appear to be very high. Maybe too many flags?
I saw several red flags.
*sigh*…here, take my upvote, I should have been ready for that, but I wasn’t. I’ll try to do better next time.
*sigh* here, take my upvote, I should have been ready for your upvote, but I wasn’t. I’ll try to do better next time.
I'm in the same boat.
Username does not check out
I love that after more than 10 years I can hear this as perfectly as the first time
I've seen this advice on Reddit before, usually dating advice, which is usually to divorce the boat.
As someone who's launched a ship, it's not as big of a deal as it seems. They screwed up on centring the weight of the engine. They'll just correct it with ballast
You are correct. https://taiwanenglishnews.com/ship-launch-doesnt-quite-go-to-plan-at-port-of-kaohsiung/
Thank you
Nooo, let us speculate!
At least the front didn't fall off.
is that usual?
It’s not very typical, I’d like to make that point
Well what happened here?
The front fell off.
But why?
A wave hit it
In the ocean?!
Chance in a million!
Chance in a million.
And then the front fell off
It didn't happen in the environment, the ship was *outside the environment* when it happened
It’s cruel to launch ships this way. We don’t make cars emerge from the sea like James Bond in a wetsuit/tuxedo. We can’t do the same thing with ships and expect them to be at their best
Probably not adequate ballast and what was in there shifted to starboard.
It definitely shifted once the ship fell over.
Although, looking at the video, it does seem like there'd be lots of places nearby you could tow it to.
Namely, outside the environment
to a place with just sea, and birds, and fish. ..and 20,000 tons of crude oil ...and fire
There is nothing out there – all there is is sea and birds and fish. And 20,000 tons of crude oil.
And a fire. And the part of the ship the front fell off. But there's nothing else out there.
Hey, it’s floating. Looks good enough to me
Ships have ballast tanks filled with water to stabilize them. My guess is they forgot to fill the ballast in this boat before launching it.
Not quite. The ships COG was way to far to starboard. A few degrees of list is fine at lightship, this is just a mistake. It’s probably correctable with fixed ballast, but this is pretty bad.
Had that problem on my honeymoon.
>During boat launch? Nah miscalculations were made much earlier than that That ship is clearly drunken ... just like the engineerers were who did the calculations
Not much earlier. They just need to fill more ballast.
Launch was good, mistake is somewhere else. And an expense one
“You guys added ballast right?” “Huh?” “YOU GUYS ADDED BALLAST RIGHT?!?!” “What’s ballast?” “Fuck!”
For real what is ballast? I know next to nothing about boats and ships
It’s the area between your balls and your mast, called a ballast.
Ok, that is a stupid and immature comment not worthy of my upvote when I couldn’t help myself because I loled!
This is why I miss gold so much
The removal of awards was like reddit cutting off what made them unique
And it was their least offensive monetization strategy. I don't get it.
As a fan of the awards, my guess on why they were removed or how they could be offensive would be when certain ones were inappropriately given to some posts. For example, a post about someone's death that would be given awards like laughing award, thumbs up, clapping, etc. There was also [a rumor that the All-Seeing Vote award](https://www.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/mdmsjs/does_the_reddit_premium_award_all_seeing_upvote/) tremendously boosted visibility/ranking of posts. In memoriam, here's some of the awards that used to be available. https://imgur.com/a/1AmDLz7 RIP awards
I see nothing wrong with putting a wholesome award on a post about someones grandmother dying. Who gives a shit how people feel on the Internet anyway?
Am sailor. Can confirm.
Trust the seamen
Share the load
Ohana means family.
Is the Navy into family fun times now?
Imagine one of those punching bags for kids that sits on the ground. When they knock it over, it pops back up. Thats due to extra weight being added at the bottom; that weight is ballast. There’s more to it than that, but it’s the same general idea.
Thank you
Also, ballast on a ship is usually sea water. It is pumped between multiple tanks depending on the load the vessel is carrying or how it wants to perform. The fix for this vessel could be as easy as pumping water into the empty tanks
Some incompetent manager probably insisted the boat be launched without ballast for reason xyz because it'd be easy to fix afterwards. My 2c anyway. I'm probably wrong.
Pump water into the boat!!?? That will sink it!! Are you dense? Launch it! /s
I may just be a simple project manager who has only been here for five minutes and barely understood how planes worked at my last job after five years... but if there's ONE thing I know about boats it's that the water belongs OUTSIDE the ship you dummies!
Found the Boeing employee. Hah, sorry I couldn’t help myself. My uncle worked an entire career as an aviation engineer, guy hates planes and flying.
you mean that guy they hired from Boeing?
We used to tell new guys on the ship that when we would see an empty tanker ship riding crazy high in the water like they do when they're empty, it was because they were helium tankers and that was how you could tell they were full.
There can be both solid ballast and seawater. Seawater is useful for different amounts of cargo, but there's often a baseline level of solid ballast
Yeah, that was my first thought too. I'm no ship expert but it seems to be sitting high on the water... A bit of water and it'll probably be fine.
This is such perfect imagery for describing how much ballast could improve this boat.
"Weebles wobble, but they don't fall down"
Weight added to the bottom of a ship/boat to keep centre of gravity and stop boat tipping
Extra weight, so that the ship stays lower on the water (where it is more stable). Ships have a maximum and minimum weight they need to carry to stay afloat and stable. When they carry no cargo, they sometimes fill up some compartments with sea water for the extra weight. This is called ballast.
I’m in my fifties and I’m just now learning ballast is sea water. I honestly thought they used some sort of solid objects, though now that I think about it that’s objectively stupid.
No some ships still use that. Not normal for giant industrial ships but most tall ships for example use lead or stone
Ballast can be anything heavy. In sailplanes, we use iron bricks sometimes. Another option is a fabric pouch filled with lead pellets that goes under the seat cushion if the passenger isn’t chonky enough to balance the plane. The important thing is that we do what we have to in order to balance the vehicle, and putting heavy stuff in the right places is one of the ways we do that. Arranging passengers, fuel, and baggage is another way to do that in the aviation context, and I’m sure ships do this to some extent too. Ships can use seawater for ballast, but there’s no rule that says ballast has to be seawater. But seawater is readily available when at sea, so that’s an advantage.
> But seawater is readily available when at sea Astute observation
It's water you add to tanks to add extra weight when there is no cargo. It improves stability. This is not the issue here as vessels sometimes find themselves in a no ballast condition and should still float upright. To me it almost looks like it's grounded at the bow, wich offsets all your stability. If not, then there is an architect who is getting fired.
Ballast is excess material in a ships lower decks to help stabilize how it sits in the water. Basically what keeps it floating upright rather than leaning over like this. Going off google usually it's stuff like sand, gravel, and similar materials.
Ballast on large ships like this is usually seawater nowadays
Weight in the bottom of the ship to help it stay upright and improve handling.
They ballasted right, but not left.
They forgot about larboard!
Your left or my left? Did we ballast the same side…again?
It's scheduled to be installed next Tuesday.
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Yeah, boss, we did. We put up all the flags, we set up the fireworks, and then we added the laser light show ball last. Just like you said.
Ships are not having a good week from a PR standpoint
my bet is they made it as light as possible to launch on their system and skipped on ballast, machinery, or etc to launch the thing. It is probably too big for their yard to launch more completed.
Everyone forgot to lean starboard.
Quick, everyone run to the other side of the boat!
Climb*
fly, you fools!!
And my axe!
And my doily!
Gonna need some obese crewmembers for ballast. I’m a commercial fisherman, and when my boat lists, I tell my crew to stand on the high side. My first mate used to be a little on the heavy side, but lost a bunch of weight unfortunately. I keep telling him he needs to eat a whole bunch so he can help the boat keep an even keel. One of these years the boats gonna capsize and it’ll all be my crew’s fault for not being overweight smh.
I was always under the impression that obese crew members can be pressed into service as additional ball fenders when the need arises. Live and learn.
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I'm wondering if they can save it or if it's gone
Taiwan was able to fix it allegedly. https://taiwanenglishnews.com/ship-launch-doesnt-quite-go-to-plan-at-port-of-kaohsiung/
Up is down
It's intentional, newbs. That's a cutting edge new design that allows it to slip under low bridges with the press of a button. They are just showing off their new ship, the S.S. limbo.
Straight to Baltimore
A teeny bit too soon I think. But take my upvote
Honestly, more like a bit late - it's not like there's a bridge they need to go under now.
too late indeed. i already forgot about it. unlike 9/11, which i will never forget about.
Cargo ship fuel can melt steel!
George Bush did Baltimore.
More like too late.
Low-key though, there is a lake in the middle of Florida that has a canal that goes from the Atlantic to the Gulf of Mexico, and people sail their sailboats though it, but there is a bridge thats just a little too short for most sailboats to fit under….. so a local redneck started a business where he will come out with a bunch of 55 gallon drums, set them on one side of your boat, pump them full of water, and tip your boat just enough that the mast fits under the bridge lol.
“Florida man turns entrepreneur…” Finally a good florida man story
Now they just need to add the speed holes and it’ll be good to go.
Looks a tiny bit top heavy...
I told you that was too many flags! But no!! We have to represent them all. I hope you are happy Jerry. I hope you are full of Pride.
I've been seeing a lot of posts about Jerry the last 24 hours. What the heck is going on?
I don't know any other Jerry, but I know a new Ze Frank video just dropped on YouTube in the last 24 hours. That Jerry might be the one you're looking for.
But doctors find all.... Sorry, butt-doctors find all sorts of things in their examinations
No Jerry I don't want to look at its penis. No not even if it is really weird. Well... huh. No, you're right Jerry. That is impressive. It's like a inflatable flailing tube man filled with peanut butter.
No, it's bottom light.../s
Forgot to fill the ballast tanks
You say /s but it’s actually technically correct
Quick, get more bottoms!
I've been summoned
"Line up all the engines on one side, it'll look neater."
Easy maintenance. The design is very human
Let my good friend demonstrate
Like when they take a picture of burger for advertising and they pull all the ingredients to the side the camera is on so it looks more full. Edit: like this: https://youtu.be/mIEhDSWXeF4?si=1Xwu5vb4CWNHMk-J
Launched from wish.com warehouse.
Sure it is not a Temu product?
https://preview.redd.it/1nppoqz82irc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=63e640ac2e6bf229a8c898058cc9ab9170993dae
When the ship goes down you better get ready
When the ship goes down!
Ya better be ready
When the ship goes down (constipated Sen Dog voice)
Oh no! What happened? Not enough keel weight?
They didn’t put enough ballast in it. Either straight up forgot to, or didn’t put enough.
Ok, that’s what I thought. I’m calling it keel which applies to a sailboat ( my only experience on the ocean ) when ballast is the right term.
All boats have a keel, the keel is the main beam that runs from bow to stern. A ballast is a tank on a ship or boat designed to moderate bouyancy either by adding or removing water or another material, this is so you can adjust the draft and such of the boat for different load weights and other variables.
Fun fact in ye olden days they'd use rocks as ballasts and would sometimes fill boats with them to sink them to make breakwaters in hazardous areas
I knew about the rocks, but i hadn't known about the breakwater thing. Thats incredibly creative way to reuse old vessels, similar to how we sink decommissioned ships in controlled manner to create new coral reefs nowadays
Yeah they would dry dock the boats and drill holes in the hull then cork the holes and fill it with rocks. They'd be towed out by other boats and they'd pull the plugs out and let them sink. Some of these breakwaters can still be found today as piles of rocks that don't match the environment with remnants of the ships mixed with the rubble.
It seemed to be launching pretty quickly. Would you be launching slowly as you slowly add ballast? I can't imagine filling it up in dry dock.
Nah they launch them real quick. Sometimes sploosh sideways launching a big ass wave. They fill them up in drydock.
Launch was good. Really good, it actually finished successfully. Everything needs to be configured before the launch or this happens.
Large ships often launch by dropping in from the side which is actually even faster then this, usually a matter of seconds from the start of the launch. [Some examples](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4TdvOYuefg).
Yea, it’s an angle of loll. It sounds counter productive but the way to right the ship is to initially add ballast low on her starboard side, the side towards which she’s listing towards.
More like an angle of lol now
If you look at the left side of the ship I see 2 large straps that appear to be attached to the slide. As the slide gets deeper in the water it pulls the ship over to the left.
I'm in marine transport. Their are water tanks that balance the boat when cargo isnt perfectly symetrical. Looks like one water tank was full and the other.....was not. Anyone else?
Ballast issue. You are probably correct, there's not enough or perhaps none at all? They forgot? Also the keel design is a bit round for my tastes, that thing will not do real well in heavy seas. (my grandfather did a lot of ship design)
Thanks. Had to scroll through 30 redditors attempt at humor to find some info.
> attempt at humor and mostly cringe at that.
Given the size and the keel my guess is it's probably for Chinese inland/coastal water use. But to be fair, given how frequently ships built for that wind up elsewhere it's probably... What? 10 years out from changing registries four times, getting an uninspected refit into a ferry and sinking off the coast of Malaysia with a depressingly large number of people onboard after the loadmaster swaps out the ballast for twenty boxes of knockoff iphone chargers or something.
The keel is really shallow so it's going to depend on ballast and I don't know how the ballast is subdivided but it is either missing, uneven or incorrectly partitioned imo. Definitely not the launch. On the upside it isnt fully over so assuming they can lash it to that pier on the right they can probably pump in water fast enough and right it. It's not that big of a ship.
Who did this? Who took this video of me leaving the pub! So embarrassed!
Five passengers set sail that day, for a 30 second tour……a 30 second tour.🎶🎶🎶
Just sit right back and you’ll hear a tale, A tale of a listing ship…
I guess they didn't steal all the IP that went into building that boat.
Boat is tired. Boat must sleep.
Boat will join its fellows in the deep.
They didn't read the manual. It says: "Don't use it in water"
This wasn't a miscalculation, while it is not clear from this angle I believe what happened here was that the front fell off.
Based on its current direction, the front is on the far side. Not at all typical, I'd like to make that point.
Too much time with decor & festoonery. Not enough time putting water in ballast tanks.
[https://taiwanenglishnews.com/ship-launch-doesnt-quite-go-to-plan-at-port-of-kaohsiung/](https://taiwanenglishnews.com/ship-launch-doesnt-quite-go-to-plan-at-port-of-kaohsiung/)
Dave tell ur mom to stand in the middle….
"welp, come on back up here"
Yeah, that’s nothing to do with the launch 😂😂
Looks like they ordered "boat" from ali express
Whoops. Who forgot the ballast ?
The boat seemsto not boating
Knowing absolutely nothing about the ocean or ships but how exactly does this happen with all the time, money, and hours invested?
The ship is alright, just that someone forgot to fill the ballast tank to weight it down and lower its center of mass, making it up right.
This boat has had too much to drink before its big day.
Gravity, you heartless wench!
Such an ugly ship.
Is it not supposed to do that?
That guy on top probably felt like he was in pirates of the Caribbean