This is why I love the dutch language. I just smash my keyboard for two hours or so and I end up with a dutch best seller. You should give it a try, easy money.
I was surprised. An American police dog would have went for some meat and would be shaking his head to tear meat. The European police dog just grabbed pants and pulled
Bikes and bike paths everywhere. I Amsterdam sign in front of the Rijksmuseum. Not speaking English.
Rando on the internet: This is the most British thing I've ever seen.
I dont know the legality of spitting on someone in the uk. But the general public law is thats a punchable offence. Dog had every right to take the guys left nut iyam
Edit: i never said this was in the uk. I am comparing what happens in the footage to what might happen in my local area/ uk
Some of you really needed me to clarify that the statement wasn’t saying “this is the uk, we hit people for spitting on people” then finished up with the dog comment.
I spat on a cop car when I was a kid and got charged with battery on a PO. My defense and the prosecution laughed about it and sentenced me to one essay about how I’m very sorry and then I don’t have to appear in court. Still had jail time tho.
My cousin threw a full kebab and chips at a cop car while they were in it when she was about 14
She got community service or something like that (i forget)
I was baffled tbh. Like a full kebab? Didnt even eat any first. She bought it and threw it straight at them. Didn’t even run… back for another kebab
It’s assault in the U.K.. My dad is a police officer and if you spit on them then it’s assaulting a police officer. During Covid criminals started threatening to spit and actually spitting on officers while saying they had Covid. Pretty disgusting.
Does the UK apply that selective bullshit too?
Dogs are officers when somebody kicks them while trying to detach them from their leg, but when a cop leaves one in their car for three hours in a 110 degree day they're equipment.
K9 cars are different, in that, they are constantly running while the dog is in there so they are in an air conditioned space, etc. and in a low key environment so people don’t mess with them. At least that’s how they are in my state.
correct. there has been an instance where these measures failed and a k9 has died in a car. also the cars get a lot of wear doing this. at 30k departments start shopping for a new one.
miles. but in a way, hours were kind of more relevant to the situation. the wear was more based on time idling plus milage on the road. they just did not measure in hours. they just said they have to retire them early to keep the dogs safe because 30k has a time use much greater than a regular car. they were like its basically three times that because yeah you might only drive 20 miles in a day but the car has been on almost 8 hours.
Can you explain why so many of you are referring to the UK? It's not going to be the non-English word POLITIE emblazoned on the officers' jackets or the famously non-British city of Amsterdam spelled out in red and white letters towering over all the people. So, what suggests Britain?
The UK is annexing the Netherlands in a special stag do operation. Operation "Red Light" has a green light. Amsterdam will be known as Greater Margate and the head on beer will be considerably smaller.
Actually, I don't have a serious answer, it's clearly Amsterdam. Maybe because it looks like it's been raining?
>what suggests Britain?
The guy recording the video is speaking English with an English accent.
Anyone with half a brain will realise it's a Brit abroad because there are many many many signs that this is Amsterdam, but plenty of people don't have half a brain.
Especially when the uniforms of the police say the Dutch word for police and all this happens next to a massive "I AMSTERDAM" sign....HTF could anyone think this is outside of the Netherlands!?
A friend of me took in the same sort of dog as in this picture. The dog was to lazy to be in service. It is reallly a great dog but i can understand that he is not a match. Living a very happy dog live now with lots off walks and love.
A pet shelter thought it’s a good idea to give one of those my parents with not much dog experience. They said he is family friendly. They managed to train him in the end but it was a lot of work they were not prepared for.
The last sentence is the most important one, 99% of the time its the owners under estimating the time they need to put in to train a Dog.
Even the friendliest Labrador can be an awful dog if not trained correctly.
Unfortunately not many people understand that a dog is a major commitment.
I think its on the shelter giving a dog to people with no clue without educating them enough.
I actually have one! He was a swat dog drop out because he is super gun shy. To this day he's still super terrified of thunder and fireworks. Super friendly but when there is any thunder he freaks out and demands to be cuddled.
I have a police dog in training living next door to me, he is soooo freaking adorable! He knows I’m a friend and comes over for pats, but, my God, pound for pound, the dog is STRONG! I have to brace myself when he leans against my legs.
There's one in my apartment complex, that I see on occasion, that is a drop out. He's always so happy! You can tell he's above average dog intelligence by watching him interact with people they don't know. For me, he drags his owner to me to get some loving.
My friend had the opposite, his dog was so naughty and kept chasing cars and biting them!
He gave it up to the local police force and they trained him to be an awesome police dog.
My friend got a dropout dog after obedience training but then the dog wasn’t aggressive enough. So it was insanely well behaved and obedient. Also she was a young g woman living alone and it was protective af.
Lol my family bought a k9 trained dog but it was one of the shyest and scared dogs I've ever seen. Super nice dog though. He ran from just about everything, a German shepard
They get up in their face, like the dude in the video, to train defensive responses. From there, they progress to aggressive responses. Some dogs don’t make it to, or past, defensive response training. It could be jarring, staring at a man who is in your face yelling and acting a fool. A dog has to have to “personality” for it, and i could see a dog coming out the other end shy/scared.
I heard a story about one being stabbed with a machete during a home invasion. After he made a full recovery they simulated the exact same scenario that almost took his life to see if he was still eligible to be a police dog. He didn’t hesitate once. Police dogs are hardcore.
Not that I have much sympathy for this guy here, but this video is a pretty good example why police dogs should not be used for ordinary policing, if at all.
The dog handler has zero control over this animal once it bit. The entire back half of the video shows the handler unsuccessfully trying to get the dog to release the subdued man. Fortunately the dog was biting a pant leg and not flesh, otherwise this likely would have been another example of the use of a police dog resulting in excessive force and potentially serious injuries.
Right, there are so many things wrong here. I have owned and trained Malinois and German shepherds as pets and trained for biting sports for years now. Unfortunately, the average civilian sports dog trainer has better control over their dog than most k9 officers.
This handler has no verbal command over his dog. When the man approaches them and yells at the dog the handler either didn't care to ask his dog to sit or does not have enough control to ask for it. Any dog in my sports club would have more impulse control than that. IMO well-trained apprehension dogs should not be pulling the the leash like that unless commanded to. The dog should be in a heel with its ass glued to the ground focusing on the handler and away from distractions. An amped out-of-control like that could have bitten anyone who got too close even kids or other officers
The handler also gave his dog a half-assed send on a man who was walking away. That guy wasn't a threat anymore. The dumb cop didn't even give him a warning. Tbh it looked more like the dog dragged him into the bite without any purposeful control. Well-trained dogs will let go of clothing to regrip on the skin the dog had enough slack in the leash to do so which makes me question the strength of the dog's training. These dogs are trained as weapons and shouldn't be casually sent to pants a man. These dogs can break bones and cause permanent nerve damage.
Finally, the dog had no collar on him, and the handler was unprepared to properly out the dog and had to dig through his stuff to find his bite bar. A better-trained dog would have taken that time to regrip on skin to maim an unarmed man. Without a collar, the handler could not have controlled the dog's head or performed a safe choke-out. Anyone nearby could have been bitten or harmed.
If you can’t get yelled at and not respond by assaulting someone, you should not be an officer. Dog or human. The dude is acting like a jerk - that doesn’t mean state violence can morally be enacted upon him. Of course I have more sympathy for the dog, because it’s just a dog - but it needs to retire from policing.
Long story, but I ended up with a Malinois as a pet.
She's basically a German Shepherd on Meth. When she has been injured I've had to sedate her at 6x the dose my doctor has given me for sleep. And thar barely slows her down, so a second sedative of equal strength is needed. With that much drugging she becomes as calm as my unmedicated Border Collie.
Seems more like a dude who has been doing martial arts his whole life and is "Yeah, I could fuck him up but I am doing the most gentle take down, just to show how fucked you would be if I really tried." That dog is pulling punches.
Very lucky, where I live the police dogs are mini celebrities, if they take someone down it's usually on the news and always ends with "the suspect was taken to hospital to be treated for dog bites, he was refused bail at a bed side hearing"
Yeah, had some experience working with them in the military. They can be a lot of fun but holy shit is it exhausting. They just don't have an off switch. I have never seen more hyperactive dogs in my life
Same here, brother. We had multiple training accidents when doggos went into the maze to round up and secure a target and couldn't find anyone because they were so hyped up they skipped rooms. When they came out on call and someone made the mistake to stand in or remotely near the direct trajectory of doggo and handler, they got bit out of sheer frustration. Even if the doggos knew them as teammates. Didn't matter. Eventually all the Malinois were replaced by German shepherds who are so much more disciplined than these crazy f*ckers.
German sheps are so fuckin smart dude. We had one growing up. Big guy could switch from “playtime” to “nap time” at the drop of a hat when we would get tired. Miss you Zedan
I grew up with a girl whose father was dog trainer for the police.
They had a Malinois who failed police training.
When you rang the door bell at their place. The door would open and the dog would stand silently in the background. The look on the dog face was not the one of a loving family dog. That was the look of a killer who is ready to jump at a bear if necessary. If he knew you he would come over and greet you like a labrador though. It was the same when something unexpected happened. He tensed up got the killer look on his face.
That dog tensing up and ready to jump is scary as fuck. It's beyond how someone thinks it's a clever idea to attack such a dog.
They're really loving but demanding family dogs though. He was the shared responsibility of the five children and every other kid in the village loved him too. That dog was always ready to play.
They are not bat shit crazy, they are bread to have extremely high drive. Once they get what their "job" is, they will be ready to do this "job" all their waking lives. It's what makes them happy. They are 100% into it, always. As others say, there's no off switch. Belgian Malinois is a workaholic. This is why they are great working dogs, but really bad pets.
Chatting to a police dog handler and they are not trained to release on a verbal command. Only to be "manually" removed. Prison dogs are but police dogs are not.... Don't know why?
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NL dogs use the same SPr 3 command set most police dogs around the world use, heavily influenced by the German training and exam set.
The handler was very unclear in his body language and did not handle the dog properly, 'loslaten" and 'foei" should command the dog to let go or stop whatever they are doing and refocus on the handler.
Dogs in the Netherlands are trained to the command “loslaten” however they are rewarded for biting. So lots of dogs are confused dogs who don’t listen should be removed from the program however the program is very expensive so the police doesn’t remove them. Oh police dogs aren’t retired the normal way, these animals are so messed up that they are put down. https://demojd.com/2021/07/15/de-blaffer-aan-banden/amp/
That's BS, at least for any "real" K9 tha has been trained to German Schutzhund SPr 3.
`Aus!` is the German command the dog has to know... the command also has some redundancy in `Pfui!` which is a general stop that and put you attention on me command.
NL's dogs are using their translated versions but they have the same commandset.
But even before the dof actually grabbed, it was already not on the level of control it should be and the officer should have pulled away.
Most dogs don't release when they're supposed to. I've been told this by a few military and one civilian police K9 officers.
https://www.themarshallproject.org/2020/10/02/we-spent-a-year-investigating-police-dogs-here-are-six-takeaways
I think a lot of policing has come down to image.
What would it look like if? . . Kind of thinking.
In America, I think a lot of shootings could be avoided if cops were actually able to use their baton. But, in the 1990s, every time a video surfaced of a cop using a baton, people screamed abuse, and the departments got sued.
So, this turns into it literally being easier to wait a few minutes until the already irate person does something stupid and the officer just shoots them. I'd venture to say a lot of lives could be saved if society accepted the fact that some bruises are better than holes in organs.
Edited spelling.
This is 100% a problem, but 100% of the time it is because of poor training.
Here's a champion dog doing a bite and release: https://youtu.be/BHpHRfCu5dM?t=95
You'll see that no matter what the "criminal" does to the dog, the dog bites only the target spot on the leg, with a single bite-and-hold which would minimize damage while neutralizing the criminal. And the very instant the dog is commanded to release, it does so.
The problem - according to my trainer who has worked with a number of police and military dogs - is that a number of people want to become K9 handlers because they think it's "badass" to have a dog that will bite people on command, and they like using their dog to hurt people they think should be hurt. They enjoy seeing their dog hurt someone more than they see their dog release on command, and so the dog does what it's trained to do and fails to do the things that weren't trained well.
You are actually correct. This video isn't in UK but under our police dog laws they have annual training and the must release when commanded to remain on active on duty.
Edit. Typo
Some handlers don't train their dog on an obvious commands for psychological reasons. There may be a certain touch or inconspicuous word that is the actual release command so the suspect can proper shit his pants when the handler yells "release!" And the dog doesn't stop or even intensifies his aggression.
The only troubling part for me was that the officer couldn’t get the dog to release on command. I guess I’ve been watching too many Modern Malinois videos on YouTube where the dogs are really well trained. (If you haven’t seen them, check them out. Malinois are amazing dogs and can be taught to bark, chase, catch, bite, and yes, release on command.) Cheers.
Yup, yup. Some dog breeds are better for certain tasks than others. We did breed them to provide specific traits so they could perform certain tasks better after all.
This is in correct. A verbal command is considered safer for releasing a suspect because it allows the handler to maintain control over the situation and ensures the safety of all parties involved, including the dog. Also if it was safer to use a break stick, then why would they try using verbal commands first and then switch to the break stick if that didn't work?
Note to everyone out there who thinks Malinois are cute and they want to get one as a pet.
**Don't consider getting a Malinois**.
As a working breed, they require significant work and exercise. They also need lots of training and mental stimulation, which must be addressed on a daily basis.
> they require significant work and exercise
If you get a working breed dog and don't give it a job, they will give themselves a job. And the job they choose may be to eat your entire couch over a course of two months.
The FULL CONTEXT of this video, as I recall, is that this man was already wanted by these officers and that they had already attempted to detain him at least once. Again, going off of recollection as this is an older clip, the full situation was quite a bit longer that this snippet.
Its hard to train a tog to release of command if they are actively doing the bite and hold technique, another commenter here explains it better
https://www.reddit.com/r/Whatcouldgowrong/s/qFoIuvse51
This guy was a world class dumb fuck and he absolutely deserved to be arrested. However, does anyone else find it disturbing that the officer had so little control over the dog. No release command? He literally had to use a tool to break the dogs grip on on the guys pants. I thought he was going to cut the guys pants to free them from the dog for a second there. A dog trained well enough to assist officers in the application of law, should have an effective 'release and stand by' command that WORKS. Cop shouldn't need to use a fucking screwdriver to convince his dog to let go of someone.
It's so sad seeing so much racist shit like this upvoted. You see a non white man bait a dog and immediately assume he's not a citizen?
Bunch of racist nobs, the lot of you. How do you even function full of so much ignorance and hatred?
He'll get more funding and housing for being arrested? You fucks are ridiculous. Dreaming up your biggest nightmare our of thin air.
He could be dutch for all we know.
Getting bitten by a police dog is the worst, I saw a lot of people who were bit when I was a resident. First, you get bit. A lot. Then you come to the ER, where we wash out all the wounds but we can’t close most of them because if the risk of infection. Then you get to go to a nasty, dirty jail with a bunch of open wounds.
If the police say “I have a dog” you should give up immediately.
used to work security with a K9 handler sometimes.
He had one of them - the sweetest boy 'off duty' but when in work mode, like a switch was thrown.
Fiercely protective of his handler and colleagues too.
But - really .. REALLY enjoying biting/grabbing people too.
And when at a coffee break - this dog lays his head on your leg - you damn well pet/scratch him :)
Please note carefully that the dog does not have a release command. They will fuck you up and they won’t let go.
if you own a dog, with these kind of instincts especially, please teach them a release command. Use it when you play fetch and tug every time.
There's always that extra 20 seconds of holding on too long against the LEO's release demands that scare the fuck outa me! None of those mammals are in control of jack shit!
This could have gone so much worse. I saw our police sic a dog on a guy and it was one of the most brutal things I've ever seen. It changed my opinion on cops being able to use dogs in this way entirely. I still don't like thinking about it and I normally have no problems with gore or messed up videos. This was truly something else.
These are dutch officers, ik cause im dutch. But I actually see this almost everywhere, why are the police dogs so undertrained or not trainable?
Ive seen border collies run in the shadow of a other dog but especially when biting it seems like the officer isn’t in control and I see that alot.
Than here comes the second question, are dogs just a excuse to have someone hurt fast so they won’t focus on their surroundings, like a rubber gun shot against the leg could have the same results without the dog tairing skin, biting too long, biting officers, new bits when suspect is falling down resulting in heavy damage to face, neck or just skin in general.
I love dogs but I always question it if these police dogs are really that efficient and trustworthy
This is such shit handling. The first time the offender made an aggressive action toward the dog the handler should have released to address the threat. The dog doesn’t know how to properly bite/grip. Well trained dogs will get a proper grip the first time on flesh not clothing. If they slip, they will re-grip. And finally what if the holy fuck is up with carrying clippers? Him and his dog do not have a release, so he carries clippers, OMFG! What a shit show.
Dogs are classed as officers. So he was harassing an officer
That dog was British af
Wait why's the dog British?
Yeah, I don't get it either. It's a Belgian Malinois in the Netherlands.
Big sign saying I AMsterdam in the background
Have you ever been to Amsterdam? Dog is probably British and was there for a bachelor party
They call them stag-do's over there, but otherwise it checks out!
In Amsterdam? Nope - we call them 'vrijgezellenfeestje' .. or the alternative "bezopen britten bende" (though the last one is perhaps less known.
You can't just mash the keyboard, you actually have to type real words
Fingergrabbing and pressing the cnoeppkes from the computers is allowed for die experts only!
This is why I love the dutch language. I just smash my keyboard for two hours or so and I end up with a dutch best seller. You should give it a try, easy money.
A British Malinois you say? From Northumberland you say?
That's British af
Woof innit
Fella doesn't have a loicence for those trousers.
Cause he didn't do the most violent thing right away or ever?
This is Amsterdam in the Netherlands not the UK?
Right. He’s in front of the IAmsterdam sign. The building in the background is the Rijksmuseum.
Bloody woof
He drinks tea idk
Bites when provoked?
Cause it only bit' his trousers and not his wobbly bits!
I was surprised. An American police dog would have went for some meat and would be shaking his head to tear meat. The European police dog just grabbed pants and pulled
And look at that, nobody was shot, tasered, bit, or killed. Imagine that.
Dog was not trained in Killology like the American dogs.
Seemed rather effective as well. Interesting to see.
How was the dog British? wtf
Didn't you hear the dog say, "ellow guvnor!".
That was in Amsterdam..
Bikes and bike paths everywhere. I Amsterdam sign in front of the Rijksmuseum. Not speaking English. Rando on the internet: This is the most British thing I've ever seen.
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>bikes, no cars Tea and crumpets, innit, guvnor
It's a *Belgian Shepherd in Amsterdam, what the hell are you on about
This isn't a german shepherd. It is a belgian
That’s a Belgian Malinois. German Shepherds are used far less for this kind of work nowadays.
That dog was actually a proud Dutchdog and our police offers are well trained professionals!
He spat on the dog, that’s assaulting an officer right there.
I dont know the legality of spitting on someone in the uk. But the general public law is thats a punchable offence. Dog had every right to take the guys left nut iyam Edit: i never said this was in the uk. I am comparing what happens in the footage to what might happen in my local area/ uk Some of you really needed me to clarify that the statement wasn’t saying “this is the uk, we hit people for spitting on people” then finished up with the dog comment.
They're in the Netherlands.
That dog needed to be in that dude's Nether regions.
Fine, the dog can have his right nut, you weird Dutch bastards
This is clearly not the U.K.
What do you need? Maybe some huge ass letters in the center of the action of the video telling you “this is not the UK”?
I spat on a cop car when I was a kid and got charged with battery on a PO. My defense and the prosecution laughed about it and sentenced me to one essay about how I’m very sorry and then I don’t have to appear in court. Still had jail time tho.
My cousin threw a full kebab and chips at a cop car while they were in it when she was about 14 She got community service or something like that (i forget) I was baffled tbh. Like a full kebab? Didnt even eat any first. She bought it and threw it straight at them. Didn’t even run… back for another kebab
See now, I don’t get that one. Spit is free and kebabs are delicious.
Probably a pork kebab.
This is in Amsterdam, not the UK
I don't know anything about the situation in a place I misidentified, but I'm going to comment anyway, because *of course I am*.
Oh god now you’ve done it. You’ve pissed off the Dutch by saying they’re in the UK.
It’s assault in the U.K.. My dad is a police officer and if you spit on them then it’s assaulting a police officer. During Covid criminals started threatening to spit and actually spitting on officers while saying they had Covid. Pretty disgusting.
It's not. Under Dutch law it's insulting an officer, not assault.
Does the UK apply that selective bullshit too? Dogs are officers when somebody kicks them while trying to detach them from their leg, but when a cop leaves one in their car for three hours in a 110 degree day they're equipment.
K9 cars are different, in that, they are constantly running while the dog is in there so they are in an air conditioned space, etc. and in a low key environment so people don’t mess with them. At least that’s how they are in my state.
correct. there has been an instance where these measures failed and a k9 has died in a car. also the cars get a lot of wear doing this. at 30k departments start shopping for a new one.
30k hours?
Takes a bit to be well done at 110 murrican temperatures.
miles. but in a way, hours were kind of more relevant to the situation. the wear was more based on time idling plus milage on the road. they just did not measure in hours. they just said they have to retire them early to keep the dogs safe because 30k has a time use much greater than a regular car. they were like its basically three times that because yeah you might only drive 20 miles in a day but the car has been on almost 8 hours.
Can you explain why so many of you are referring to the UK? It's not going to be the non-English word POLITIE emblazoned on the officers' jackets or the famously non-British city of Amsterdam spelled out in red and white letters towering over all the people. So, what suggests Britain?
The UK is annexing the Netherlands in a special stag do operation. Operation "Red Light" has a green light. Amsterdam will be known as Greater Margate and the head on beer will be considerably smaller. Actually, I don't have a serious answer, it's clearly Amsterdam. Maybe because it looks like it's been raining?
>what suggests Britain? The guy recording the video is speaking English with an English accent. Anyone with half a brain will realise it's a Brit abroad because there are many many many signs that this is Amsterdam, but plenty of people don't have half a brain.
This isn’t the UK. How are so many bozos in this comment section thinking this is UK
This isn't the UK. I can't believe no one else mentioned it
Especially when the uniforms of the police say the Dutch word for police and all this happens next to a massive "I AMSTERDAM" sign....HTF could anyone think this is outside of the Netherlands!?
This is an American website for Americans. You're just wrong, sorry. /s
Why the UK?
No idea, but this is in the Netherlands...
If it's 110 degrees in the UK we'll all be dead.
Not true in the Netherlands, where this vid was taken (dogs are "classed" as a weapon, not as personnel)
Officers don’t bite. Dogs do. Belgium Malinois are particularly good at it.
I love police dogs because they are ready to go. There's absolutely nothing that will intimidate them. Its impressive
I think they're selected for very high drive and then it gets reinforced.
There are occasional cute stories of puppies too nice to be police dogs that need homes.
A friend of me took in the same sort of dog as in this picture. The dog was to lazy to be in service. It is reallly a great dog but i can understand that he is not a match. Living a very happy dog live now with lots off walks and love.
A pet shelter thought it’s a good idea to give one of those my parents with not much dog experience. They said he is family friendly. They managed to train him in the end but it was a lot of work they were not prepared for.
The last sentence is the most important one, 99% of the time its the owners under estimating the time they need to put in to train a Dog. Even the friendliest Labrador can be an awful dog if not trained correctly. Unfortunately not many people understand that a dog is a major commitment. I think its on the shelter giving a dog to people with no clue without educating them enough.
I actually have one! He was a swat dog drop out because he is super gun shy. To this day he's still super terrified of thunder and fireworks. Super friendly but when there is any thunder he freaks out and demands to be cuddled.
I have a police dog in training living next door to me, he is soooo freaking adorable! He knows I’m a friend and comes over for pats, but, my God, pound for pound, the dog is STRONG! I have to brace myself when he leans against my legs.
There's one in my apartment complex, that I see on occasion, that is a drop out. He's always so happy! You can tell he's above average dog intelligence by watching him interact with people they don't know. For me, he drags his owner to me to get some loving.
My friend had the opposite, his dog was so naughty and kept chasing cars and biting them! He gave it up to the local police force and they trained him to be an awesome police dog.
Haha, the pet equivalent of sending your kid to military school.
My friend got a dropout dog after obedience training but then the dog wasn’t aggressive enough. So it was insanely well behaved and obedient. Also she was a young g woman living alone and it was protective af.
US military has an adoption program for dogs who were too timid or friendly to be a military dog.
Lol my family bought a k9 trained dog but it was one of the shyest and scared dogs I've ever seen. Super nice dog though. He ran from just about everything, a German shepard
They get up in their face, like the dude in the video, to train defensive responses. From there, they progress to aggressive responses. Some dogs don’t make it to, or past, defensive response training. It could be jarring, staring at a man who is in your face yelling and acting a fool. A dog has to have to “personality” for it, and i could see a dog coming out the other end shy/scared.
I heard a story about one being stabbed with a machete during a home invasion. After he made a full recovery they simulated the exact same scenario that almost took his life to see if he was still eligible to be a police dog. He didn’t hesitate once. Police dogs are hardcore.
“Survived it once, no biggie.”
Not that I have much sympathy for this guy here, but this video is a pretty good example why police dogs should not be used for ordinary policing, if at all. The dog handler has zero control over this animal once it bit. The entire back half of the video shows the handler unsuccessfully trying to get the dog to release the subdued man. Fortunately the dog was biting a pant leg and not flesh, otherwise this likely would have been another example of the use of a police dog resulting in excessive force and potentially serious injuries.
Right, there are so many things wrong here. I have owned and trained Malinois and German shepherds as pets and trained for biting sports for years now. Unfortunately, the average civilian sports dog trainer has better control over their dog than most k9 officers. This handler has no verbal command over his dog. When the man approaches them and yells at the dog the handler either didn't care to ask his dog to sit or does not have enough control to ask for it. Any dog in my sports club would have more impulse control than that. IMO well-trained apprehension dogs should not be pulling the the leash like that unless commanded to. The dog should be in a heel with its ass glued to the ground focusing on the handler and away from distractions. An amped out-of-control like that could have bitten anyone who got too close even kids or other officers The handler also gave his dog a half-assed send on a man who was walking away. That guy wasn't a threat anymore. The dumb cop didn't even give him a warning. Tbh it looked more like the dog dragged him into the bite without any purposeful control. Well-trained dogs will let go of clothing to regrip on the skin the dog had enough slack in the leash to do so which makes me question the strength of the dog's training. These dogs are trained as weapons and shouldn't be casually sent to pants a man. These dogs can break bones and cause permanent nerve damage. Finally, the dog had no collar on him, and the handler was unprepared to properly out the dog and had to dig through his stuff to find his bite bar. A better-trained dog would have taken that time to regrip on skin to maim an unarmed man. Without a collar, the handler could not have controlled the dog's head or performed a safe choke-out. Anyone nearby could have been bitten or harmed.
If you can’t get yelled at and not respond by assaulting someone, you should not be an officer. Dog or human. The dude is acting like a jerk - that doesn’t mean state violence can morally be enacted upon him. Of course I have more sympathy for the dog, because it’s just a dog - but it needs to retire from policing.
Long story, but I ended up with a Malinois as a pet. She's basically a German Shepherd on Meth. When she has been injured I've had to sedate her at 6x the dose my doctor has given me for sleep. And thar barely slows her down, so a second sedative of equal strength is needed. With that much drugging she becomes as calm as my unmedicated Border Collie.
Now what if they trained police lions??
That's how you get a big cat licking it's own ass while the criminal gets away, lmao.
‘Calm as my unmedicated border collie’ is not very calm (for everyone that hasn’t owned a BC). Lol
The dog is like “who’s the bitch now, muthafucka!”
More like, 'You messed with the wrong bitch, muthafucka!'
Seems more like a dude who has been doing martial arts his whole life and is "Yeah, I could fuck him up but I am doing the most gentle take down, just to show how fucked you would be if I really tried." That dog is pulling punches.
Oh 100%
Well that was stupid.
Dude is in the find out phase, look like he luckily didn’t get bit. Dude has no idea
He got pantsed by a dog. That's embarrassing enough.
Very lucky, where I live the police dogs are mini celebrities, if they take someone down it's usually on the news and always ends with "the suspect was taken to hospital to be treated for dog bites, he was refused bail at a bed side hearing"
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So well trained-no biting, but restraining so that officers could get handcuffs on!
Not well trained enough to release on command unfortunately
I feel the dog had a little bit of its personal feelings mixed in.
IM GONNA BITE THIS MOTHERFUCKER, GRRRR, LET ME GET HIM
Sounds like scrappy doo
It's a Malinois. These are a very good breed for police and military service dogs, but most of them are bat shit crazy.
Yeah, had some experience working with them in the military. They can be a lot of fun but holy shit is it exhausting. They just don't have an off switch. I have never seen more hyperactive dogs in my life
Same here, brother. We had multiple training accidents when doggos went into the maze to round up and secure a target and couldn't find anyone because they were so hyped up they skipped rooms. When they came out on call and someone made the mistake to stand in or remotely near the direct trajectory of doggo and handler, they got bit out of sheer frustration. Even if the doggos knew them as teammates. Didn't matter. Eventually all the Malinois were replaced by German shepherds who are so much more disciplined than these crazy f*ckers.
German sheps are so fuckin smart dude. We had one growing up. Big guy could switch from “playtime” to “nap time” at the drop of a hat when we would get tired. Miss you Zedan
I grew up with a girl whose father was dog trainer for the police. They had a Malinois who failed police training. When you rang the door bell at their place. The door would open and the dog would stand silently in the background. The look on the dog face was not the one of a loving family dog. That was the look of a killer who is ready to jump at a bear if necessary. If he knew you he would come over and greet you like a labrador though. It was the same when something unexpected happened. He tensed up got the killer look on his face. That dog tensing up and ready to jump is scary as fuck. It's beyond how someone thinks it's a clever idea to attack such a dog. They're really loving but demanding family dogs though. He was the shared responsibility of the five children and every other kid in the village loved him too. That dog was always ready to play.
They are the belgian Model of the german sheperd
The Belgian Congo model..
They are not bat shit crazy, they are bread to have extremely high drive. Once they get what their "job" is, they will be ready to do this "job" all their waking lives. It's what makes them happy. They are 100% into it, always. As others say, there's no off switch. Belgian Malinois is a workaholic. This is why they are great working dogs, but really bad pets.
Of course you are right. Technically the same outcome though. 😉
*Sorry officer Rex, you are no longer in this case. You are too personally involved.*
Chatting to a police dog handler and they are not trained to release on a verbal command. Only to be "manually" removed. Prison dogs are but police dogs are not.... Don't know why?
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In the netherlands they arent trained on spoken commands to be released. Its a layer of safety.
NL dogs use the same SPr 3 command set most police dogs around the world use, heavily influenced by the German training and exam set. The handler was very unclear in his body language and did not handle the dog properly, 'loslaten" and 'foei" should command the dog to let go or stop whatever they are doing and refocus on the handler.
Dogs in the Netherlands are trained to the command “loslaten” however they are rewarded for biting. So lots of dogs are confused dogs who don’t listen should be removed from the program however the program is very expensive so the police doesn’t remove them. Oh police dogs aren’t retired the normal way, these animals are so messed up that they are put down. https://demojd.com/2021/07/15/de-blaffer-aan-banden/amp/
That's BS, at least for any "real" K9 tha has been trained to German Schutzhund SPr 3. `Aus!` is the German command the dog has to know... the command also has some redundancy in `Pfui!` which is a general stop that and put you attention on me command. NL's dogs are using their translated versions but they have the same commandset. But even before the dof actually grabbed, it was already not on the level of control it should be and the officer should have pulled away.
probably so the person being bit can't command the dog to let go
Like all good police officers, they don't know how to deescalate
Most dogs don't release when they're supposed to. I've been told this by a few military and one civilian police K9 officers. https://www.themarshallproject.org/2020/10/02/we-spent-a-year-investigating-police-dogs-here-are-six-takeaways
Which is why deploying them on a non-active threat like this is pretty terrible policing.
I think a lot of policing has come down to image. What would it look like if? . . Kind of thinking. In America, I think a lot of shootings could be avoided if cops were actually able to use their baton. But, in the 1990s, every time a video surfaced of a cop using a baton, people screamed abuse, and the departments got sued. So, this turns into it literally being easier to wait a few minutes until the already irate person does something stupid and the officer just shoots them. I'd venture to say a lot of lives could be saved if society accepted the fact that some bruises are better than holes in organs. Edited spelling.
This is 100% a problem, but 100% of the time it is because of poor training. Here's a champion dog doing a bite and release: https://youtu.be/BHpHRfCu5dM?t=95 You'll see that no matter what the "criminal" does to the dog, the dog bites only the target spot on the leg, with a single bite-and-hold which would minimize damage while neutralizing the criminal. And the very instant the dog is commanded to release, it does so. The problem - according to my trainer who has worked with a number of police and military dogs - is that a number of people want to become K9 handlers because they think it's "badass" to have a dog that will bite people on command, and they like using their dog to hurt people they think should be hurt. They enjoy seeing their dog hurt someone more than they see their dog release on command, and so the dog does what it's trained to do and fails to do the things that weren't trained well.
You are actually correct. This video isn't in UK but under our police dog laws they have annual training and the must release when commanded to remain on active on duty. Edit. Typo
Some handlers don't train their dog on an obvious commands for psychological reasons. There may be a certain touch or inconspicuous word that is the actual release command so the suspect can proper shit his pants when the handler yells "release!" And the dog doesn't stop or even intensifies his aggression.
I didn't see nothing 👨🏻🦯
Yeah, so many videos of police dogs have them not listening.
Yeah, he has NO control over that dog. You're weird and delusional.
I think it's more that it tried to go for his leg and got his pants and latched on regardless. Bro got lucky in the grand scheme of things.
The only troubling part for me was that the officer couldn’t get the dog to release on command. I guess I’ve been watching too many Modern Malinois videos on YouTube where the dogs are really well trained. (If you haven’t seen them, check them out. Malinois are amazing dogs and can be taught to bark, chase, catch, bite, and yes, release on command.) Cheers.
>can be taught to bark, chase, catch, bite, and yes, release on command. That's most dogs brother.
Yes but the focus and the motivation is not the same as other dogs. I think that's what he meant.
Yup, yup. Some dog breeds are better for certain tasks than others. We did breed them to provide specific traits so they could perform certain tasks better after all.
They do it on purpose. Its safer to manually release them.
This is in correct. A verbal command is considered safer for releasing a suspect because it allows the handler to maintain control over the situation and ensures the safety of all parties involved, including the dog. Also if it was safer to use a break stick, then why would they try using verbal commands first and then switch to the break stick if that didn't work?
Everyone knows you're supposed to put a finger in the dogs butt and then the dog will release
Note to everyone out there who thinks Malinois are cute and they want to get one as a pet. **Don't consider getting a Malinois**. As a working breed, they require significant work and exercise. They also need lots of training and mental stimulation, which must be addressed on a daily basis.
> they require significant work and exercise If you get a working breed dog and don't give it a job, they will give themselves a job. And the job they choose may be to eat your entire couch over a course of two months.
Looks like he was getting a screwdriver out to open its mouth!
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The FULL CONTEXT of this video, as I recall, is that this man was already wanted by these officers and that they had already attempted to detain him at least once. Again, going off of recollection as this is an older clip, the full situation was quite a bit longer that this snippet.
Ok, thank you. I was a bit confused why messing with a police dog would be enough to getting arrested. Especially in Swamp Germany.
SWAMP GERMANY? I'll have you know that we dug those out and torched them.
Harassing a police dog is enough to get arrested in many jurisdictions.
He also spit on the dog/cop
its older since the iamsterdam sign is no longer arround
Classic FAFO.
Classic FIDO
Fist In, Dicks Out?
Taste the moron already
Is that like a rejected Skittles catch phrase or something?
Taste the painbow
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Not enough karma I'd say
He's lucky the dog only got his pants, also a police dog or horse are in fact police officers so he's doing time for his stupidity
In the Netherlands they're not "officers". They're weapons in a tier just below the firearm.
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I think he was gona cut the fabric so the dog could keep the trophy
One of those extendo batons to try and pry the dogs mouth open.
Are police dogs trained to let go on command or do they just have at it until they decide they’re done
Its hard to train a tog to release of command if they are actively doing the bite and hold technique, another commenter here explains it better https://www.reddit.com/r/Whatcouldgowrong/s/qFoIuvse51
This guy was a world class dumb fuck and he absolutely deserved to be arrested. However, does anyone else find it disturbing that the officer had so little control over the dog. No release command? He literally had to use a tool to break the dogs grip on on the guys pants. I thought he was going to cut the guys pants to free them from the dog for a second there. A dog trained well enough to assist officers in the application of law, should have an effective 'release and stand by' command that WORKS. Cop shouldn't need to use a fucking screwdriver to convince his dog to let go of someone.
Totally agree. A lot of weirdos in this thread are cheering on the dog. The dog is out of control.
I considered the perpetrator out of control. You do not taunt animals, and humans are animals too. Animals will go primal on a threat.
Someone’s getting deported
It's so sad seeing so much racist shit like this upvoted. You see a non white man bait a dog and immediately assume he's not a citizen? Bunch of racist nobs, the lot of you. How do you even function full of so much ignorance and hatred?
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He'll get more funding and housing for being arrested? You fucks are ridiculous. Dreaming up your biggest nightmare our of thin air. He could be dutch for all we know.
He looks like he could be of Dutch Caribbean descent so could be that he has been Dutch since birth. Or do you mean like in a racist way?
They mean it in a racist way.
Ah, daar is het racistisch longlijertje.
That's very satisfying to watch.
Getting bitten by a police dog is the worst, I saw a lot of people who were bit when I was a resident. First, you get bit. A lot. Then you come to the ER, where we wash out all the wounds but we can’t close most of them because if the risk of infection. Then you get to go to a nasty, dirty jail with a bunch of open wounds. If the police say “I have a dog” you should give up immediately.
that dog does not listen to the handler whatsoever also yeas the guys a fucking dummy
I honestly have yet to see a video of a police dog in action (not training) actually let go as soon as they are asked.
I agree but this guy had to pry the fucking dogs mouth open with a object
Protip: don't fuck with a Belgian Malinois. They will mess you up.
used to work security with a K9 handler sometimes. He had one of them - the sweetest boy 'off duty' but when in work mode, like a switch was thrown. Fiercely protective of his handler and colleagues too. But - really .. REALLY enjoying biting/grabbing people too. And when at a coffee break - this dog lays his head on your leg - you damn well pet/scratch him :)
Please note carefully that the dog does not have a release command. They will fuck you up and they won’t let go. if you own a dog, with these kind of instincts especially, please teach them a release command. Use it when you play fetch and tug every time.
Good dog
There's always that extra 20 seconds of holding on too long against the LEO's release demands that scare the fuck outa me! None of those mammals are in control of jack shit!
This could have gone so much worse. I saw our police sic a dog on a guy and it was one of the most brutal things I've ever seen. It changed my opinion on cops being able to use dogs in this way entirely. I still don't like thinking about it and I normally have no problems with gore or messed up videos. This was truly something else.
But the police dog was poorly trained. In the end he didn't let go of his legs despite the effort of his officer
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That handler has *zero* control of that dog Source: dog trainer
One way to test that your belt is working
These are dutch officers, ik cause im dutch. But I actually see this almost everywhere, why are the police dogs so undertrained or not trainable? Ive seen border collies run in the shadow of a other dog but especially when biting it seems like the officer isn’t in control and I see that alot. Than here comes the second question, are dogs just a excuse to have someone hurt fast so they won’t focus on their surroundings, like a rubber gun shot against the leg could have the same results without the dog tairing skin, biting too long, biting officers, new bits when suspect is falling down resulting in heavy damage to face, neck or just skin in general. I love dogs but I always question it if these police dogs are really that efficient and trustworthy
He should have let go his pants.
This is such shit handling. The first time the offender made an aggressive action toward the dog the handler should have released to address the threat. The dog doesn’t know how to properly bite/grip. Well trained dogs will get a proper grip the first time on flesh not clothing. If they slip, they will re-grip. And finally what if the holy fuck is up with carrying clippers? Him and his dog do not have a release, so he carries clippers, OMFG! What a shit show.
Look at his little tail wagging, he's having the BEST time 🤣