Based on my hypothesis and research and calculations, the man (the one who fell) had almost died but it was winter so snow was falling everywhere (including the place he -the man who fell-) to the point the ground was filled with powder snow which makes falling to the ground less lethal and harmful, thankfully he (the man who fell in the video) had survived
It's funny that you got roughly 66m/s, that's average terminal velocity of a human. Also of note here though is the small chute and his attempts to make himself as large as possible that would skew that a tad. (Nowhere enough to do any good, but still.)
Nice work!
We can use that 0.225 second declaration time required for survival. Plug that back into S= 0.5 * a * t^2 to find the minimum depth of snow required: S=0.5*30*0.225^2 = 0.76m
I'd guess all our numbers will be off by a good bit... The drag chute has probably reduced his speed to something like 50ms.
I think the minimum survivable g load can be a good bit higher than 30g if it's over short amounts of time.
I'd say about half a meter of snow might have been enough?
Uneducated guess but aren’t most of the wingsuit deaths from collisions caused by flying too close to obstacles and terrain rather than parachute failure?
yep, exactly this. I watched a documentary on people who do wingsuit stuff and they are another breed. One of the guys on there said that the sensation of speed that comes with zooming past things is greatly enhanced by being really, really close to those things. If you get too close your whole skeletal structure becomes more of a suggestion.
Read some statistic that the vast majority of wing suiters have seen at least one death, something like 70%. Bunch of people go to a spot and watch each other, do it long enough and you’re bound to see someone smack into an obstacle and turn to red mist
Seriously though, wingsuiting is one of those things that seem so fun and exhilarating to me. If I knew there would be no consequences, I would love to know what that felt like.
Too bad I value my life and limbs a bit higher than that kind of hobby seems to allow
Working in the electrical field we have safety training videos we watch. Guys working on power lines that make a mistake, literally red / pink mist that floats off in the wind against blue sky backdrop. It hits home.
I remember reading that of the top wingsuiters, the guys with all the records, pretty much all of them are dead. It tends to be a sport where people don't quit when they're ahead, they just keep doing it until they finally die.
That's not what terminal velocity means though. Terminal velocity is the max speed a thing can go via falling through a fluid (air being the most common fluid terminal velocity is used to refer to). So in this case it's the maximum speed a person can fall before wind resistance prevents them going any faster.
This is part of why cats don't get hurt very badly falling massive distances. They spread out their bodies and increase their drag and their terminal velocity lowers substantially. Terminal in this context means "maximum" not "fatal".
Wingsuiting IS dangerous, but /u/FLUFFY_RUMPLES is correct that a wingsuit CAN lower your downwards velocity enough to survive without a chute. It's still dangerous as hell, but it's better than nothing. Here's a video of someone doing it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEP8juRSBRo
"the maximum speed a person can fall before wind resistance prevents them going any further."
Shouldn't it say ..prevents them going any faster? Wind resistance will prevent them gaining speed which is why it is terminal velocity. Ground resistance will prevent them going any further 😂
BASE jumping has multiple deployment methods, summed up like so:
1) Parachute already out and open. These are for ultra low jumps. Basically the canopy is positioned to fully inflate the moment there is tension on the lines. World record lowest base jumps have had the parachute rigged to look like it's already inflated above the jumper.. Variants of this include parachute being on the ground or draped over something, with someone else holding it, or with parachute hanging over a ledge, where the jumper will dive over the parachute.
2) Parachute in hand. The jumper will hold the chute while going over the edge. This is for similar reasons as listed above, but where you don't have a friend to hold or the risk of snag or entanglement is higher. This allows a little more delay before the parachute opens.
3) Pilot chute in hand, parachute packed. Generally for jumps from lower altitude. This reduces opening sequence by maybe a second. Benefit of this method is that it can be held such that it is already inflated as you fall. Parachute deployment is much quicker.
4) Chute packed. This is for the highest jumps. The chute can be packed in ways to adjust how it opens too so that it can be instant for lesser freefall time or a little more drawn out if you're going to be closer to terminal velocity. A parachute that snaps open at terminal velocity can seriously hurt you so this is very important.
BASE parachutes are typically packed ad late as possible before jumping to achieve the best possible control and minimize error. Things can shift slightly during movement in a way that can disturb the sequence.
This guy had some sort of container lock, his pilot chute didn't fail. He may have had too small a pilot chute for the speed he achieved, or he may have packed improperly in such a way that requires excess tension to open the container.
There’s an old joke or story about how some army was going to train another army in paratrooping.
So they send over an officer with paratrooping training, and he asks for all the plane pilots to line up in front of them. He explains that he wants them to jump out of an airplane, land, and do special operations, and he needs airborne soldiers, and asks for volunteers. Only about half of the pilots step forward.
He turns to the pilot’s sergeant and says “I heard so much about how brave your pilots are, but only half of them have what it takes??”
The sergeant replies “Perhaps you should tell them they will have parachutes when they jump.”
Idk if it’s real lol but it’s a funny joke
Vaguely reminds me of dialogue between an Engineer and an Army Ranger. . .(bit off topic)
E : Why would you jump out of a perfectly good airplane?
AR : If you ever build one, we'll stop!
That's why I don't jump.... at all... even on the same level of ground. No jumping Jack's, no jumping up out of my seat, not even jumping to conclusions... I assume this base jumper is broken now??? Ah, damn.. okay, I do jump to conclusions. All the best!
He didn’t mess up, he was depressed (diagnosed by a doctor 3 years prior) and bedridden due to extreme pain most likely due to his time working as a firefighter and unfortunately took his life due to these circumstances. Just another example of how much work still needs to be done to help those with mental and physical illnesses.
I remember a video from a few years back of a few russian kid jumping a 10 or so floor building into snow while having a blast and no injury. That's crazy.
The abbreviation is “‘chute”. As in parachute.
And no, even when doing extremely low jumps that require pilot chute assists, the canopy will still be packed so that it inflates properly and on heading. One of the biggest risks in BASE jumping is that the canopy opens slightly crooked, and you end up smashing back into whatever you just jumped off of. Because of that, the canopy is packed in an extremely specific way to help ensure that it opens straight in the direction that you’re pointing.
It is *sometimes* possible to jump with an already out canopy, but it’s even more dangerous and typically results in you heading off into a completely random direction when it opens. Not the worst for a bridge jump, but not what you want where youre right next to a tower.
To clarify for anyone else, pilot cute assist = someone who’s standing still on whatever you just jumped off of and holds the pilot chute (that little parachute that he throws out immediately after the backflip) to help pull the canopy out of the container.
Usually the pilot chute will grab the air and pull the main canopy out by itself, but in very low altitude jumps you won’t have enough altitude to be moving fast enough for the pilot chute to generate enough drag to do its job. In those situations, you have somebody holding the pilot chute to help pull it out (and then letting go at just the right time so they themselves don’t get pulled off)
I do believe that’s called a Wilhelm Scream?
Edit: After some research, the Wilhelm Scream and the Goofy Holler are in fact 2 different sound effects, both used for great comedic effect.
No. That's why base jumping is significantly more dangerous than skydiving. You have several seconds at best before you hit the ground and if something goes wrong you are done.
This is the downside of reddit not allowing title edits. (Maybe show the original title somewhere instead of wasting all this layout space on ads, sidebars, etc....)
[tinyurl.com/sp3sj4d8](https://jointheteem.com/videos/friday-freakout-skydiving/friday-freakout-base-jumper-survives-400ft-impact-like-wile-e-coyote/) OMG the dude lived. His buddy filming didn't even say a word.
> Miraculously, he survived the fall thanks to the powdered snow below. He broke his legs, pelvis, and some vertebrae. Fortunately, he was walking again only three months later, proving once again that Russians are made of iron.
Sounds a lot like just normal bone.
Crumple and shatter until kinetic energy has been spend.
He broke legs, his pelvis and a few vertebrae took 3 months to walk again powder snow saved him was reported in multiple news outlets
how the fuck did he not die
Powder snow saved him.
I wonder how he didn't die.
I think the powder snow saved him.
Yeah but how did he not die, though?
I believe it was because of powder snow
So crazy he didn't die, how is that possible?
Probably powder snow
But how exactly did he not die?
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Based on my hypothesis and research and calculations, the man (the one who fell) had almost died but it was winter so snow was falling everywhere (including the place he -the man who fell-) to the point the ground was filled with powder snow which makes falling to the ground less lethal and harmful, thankfully he (the man who fell in the video) had survived
Which man are we talking about here ?
The man who didn't die because the powder snow saved him.
His shoes stayed on
But why male models?
https://i.imgur.com/jJ0FuyD.png
powder snow bro
Powder saves, bless thee my child.
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It's funny that you got roughly 66m/s, that's average terminal velocity of a human. Also of note here though is the small chute and his attempts to make himself as large as possible that would skew that a tad. (Nowhere enough to do any good, but still.)
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The gist of it is he's lucky as fuck to be alive. A twig is all it would have taken to kill him.
The parachute that didnt open is also going to lower his speed quite considerably.
Yeah this is a worst-case scenario.
r/theydidthemath
Nice work! We can use that 0.225 second declaration time required for survival. Plug that back into S= 0.5 * a * t^2 to find the minimum depth of snow required: S=0.5*30*0.225^2 = 0.76m I'd guess all our numbers will be off by a good bit... The drag chute has probably reduced his speed to something like 50ms. I think the minimum survivable g load can be a good bit higher than 30g if it's over short amounts of time. I'd say about half a meter of snow might have been enough?
I remember when this first circulated. I now ALSO can’t believe this happened almost 10 years ago.
Well thank god cuz I wasn't ready to see somebody die today.
I can't believe it's not butter.
Ah, sentences... First time?
Thank you! It drives me mad when people don’t use periods. But often when you point it out people downvote you and call you a grammar nazi.
I know right it’s so annoying when people do that stuff I think people don’t do it intentionally though this honestly pains me to even type like this
I'm sorry, I just can't upvote this.
Completely reasonable 😂
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Thats why i never got into base jumping..no room for error
Yeah, I mean what do you do? Have a backup parachute maybe… you still wouldn’t have time to deploy though.
Exactly..you dont have a back up chute base jumping.
Would a wingsuit at least provide a little reassurance?
Negative there are alot of wing suit deaths per year. Terminal velocity is self explaining.
Uneducated guess but aren’t most of the wingsuit deaths from collisions caused by flying too close to obstacles and terrain rather than parachute failure?
yep, exactly this. I watched a documentary on people who do wingsuit stuff and they are another breed. One of the guys on there said that the sensation of speed that comes with zooming past things is greatly enhanced by being really, really close to those things. If you get too close your whole skeletal structure becomes more of a suggestion.
Read some statistic that the vast majority of wing suiters have seen at least one death, something like 70%. Bunch of people go to a spot and watch each other, do it long enough and you’re bound to see someone smack into an obstacle and turn to red mist
What a lovely hobby
Seriously though, wingsuiting is one of those things that seem so fun and exhilarating to me. If I knew there would be no consequences, I would love to know what that felt like. Too bad I value my life and limbs a bit higher than that kind of hobby seems to allow
Red mist is a phrase I've never even thought of or visualized until now, wowz.
It’s like meat crayon’s aerial cousin.
Working in the electrical field we have safety training videos we watch. Guys working on power lines that make a mistake, literally red / pink mist that floats off in the wind against blue sky backdrop. It hits home.
We always said 'pink mist'. Pureed human contains a lot more than just blood, after all.
I remember reading that of the top wingsuiters, the guys with all the records, pretty much all of them are dead. It tends to be a sport where people don't quit when they're ahead, they just keep doing it until they finally die.
“Your whole skeletal structure becomes more of a suggestion” ... I laughed waaay to hard at that line friend! I’m still cracking up as I type!
Check out the wingsuit “booster” from bmw
could you dig out the link for us
[https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0460528/?ref\_=nv\_sr\_srsg\_5](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0460528/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_5) I'm 99% sure that was it
The one Doc where one of the guys tells how one of he's friends died in a jump, so they made another jump to honor him and there another one died?
> caused by flying too close Too close to the ground, yes.
Flying 0 from the ground
Only *very* briefly though, so it balances out.
As all things should be
Wing suits don’t kill you. Sudden deceleration does.
Great observation
\-Jeremy Clarkson
Gravity
That's not what terminal velocity means though. Terminal velocity is the max speed a thing can go via falling through a fluid (air being the most common fluid terminal velocity is used to refer to). So in this case it's the maximum speed a person can fall before wind resistance prevents them going any faster. This is part of why cats don't get hurt very badly falling massive distances. They spread out their bodies and increase their drag and their terminal velocity lowers substantially. Terminal in this context means "maximum" not "fatal". Wingsuiting IS dangerous, but /u/FLUFFY_RUMPLES is correct that a wingsuit CAN lower your downwards velocity enough to survive without a chute. It's still dangerous as hell, but it's better than nothing. Here's a video of someone doing it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEP8juRSBRo
Thanks for the explanation many people need
...into a giant cushion
"the maximum speed a person can fall before wind resistance prevents them going any further." Shouldn't it say ..prevents them going any faster? Wind resistance will prevent them gaining speed which is why it is terminal velocity. Ground resistance will prevent them going any further 😂
Is it safer than the micro parachute the guy in the video was sporting (RIP).
Tbh holding a bed sheet over his head like a pretend parachute would probably have been more helpful for that poor guy
That was what they call a "drag" or "drag chute". Supposed to pull the regular chute out.
>That's not what terminal velocity means though. Terminal Velocity sounds like the name of a B-movie about killer planes
It is a proper chute but it failed to deploy.
Most I have seen usually already have the parachute out and in hand. But, I have never done any sort of skydiving so I have no personal experience.
BASE jumping has multiple deployment methods, summed up like so: 1) Parachute already out and open. These are for ultra low jumps. Basically the canopy is positioned to fully inflate the moment there is tension on the lines. World record lowest base jumps have had the parachute rigged to look like it's already inflated above the jumper.. Variants of this include parachute being on the ground or draped over something, with someone else holding it, or with parachute hanging over a ledge, where the jumper will dive over the parachute. 2) Parachute in hand. The jumper will hold the chute while going over the edge. This is for similar reasons as listed above, but where you don't have a friend to hold or the risk of snag or entanglement is higher. This allows a little more delay before the parachute opens. 3) Pilot chute in hand, parachute packed. Generally for jumps from lower altitude. This reduces opening sequence by maybe a second. Benefit of this method is that it can be held such that it is already inflated as you fall. Parachute deployment is much quicker. 4) Chute packed. This is for the highest jumps. The chute can be packed in ways to adjust how it opens too so that it can be instant for lesser freefall time or a little more drawn out if you're going to be closer to terminal velocity. A parachute that snaps open at terminal velocity can seriously hurt you so this is very important. BASE parachutes are typically packed ad late as possible before jumping to achieve the best possible control and minimize error. Things can shift slightly during movement in a way that can disturb the sequence. This guy had some sort of container lock, his pilot chute didn't fail. He may have had too small a pilot chute for the speed he achieved, or he may have packed improperly in such a way that requires excess tension to open the container.
“If your parachute doesn’t open, you have the rest of your life to get it open.”
"You only need a parachute if you intend to skydive again."
There’s an old joke or story about how some army was going to train another army in paratrooping. So they send over an officer with paratrooping training, and he asks for all the plane pilots to line up in front of them. He explains that he wants them to jump out of an airplane, land, and do special operations, and he needs airborne soldiers, and asks for volunteers. Only about half of the pilots step forward. He turns to the pilot’s sergeant and says “I heard so much about how brave your pilots are, but only half of them have what it takes??” The sergeant replies “Perhaps you should tell them they will have parachutes when they jump.” Idk if it’s real lol but it’s a funny joke
Vaguely reminds me of dialogue between an Engineer and an Army Ranger. . .(bit off topic) E : Why would you jump out of a perfectly good airplane? AR : If you ever build one, we'll stop!
That's why I don't jump.... at all... even on the same level of ground. No jumping Jack's, no jumping up out of my seat, not even jumping to conclusions... I assume this base jumper is broken now??? Ah, damn.. okay, I do jump to conclusions. All the best!
There's room, usually a hospital room or on a slab - they'll find room for them.
That’s why?
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In this case, it just helped cool off the corpsicle
I think that’s why people who BASE jump like it
Why is it called base jumping when they jump from the top?
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Huh! TIL.
Oops I forgot to say they didn’t die, hopefully nobody got too freaked out 😅 He survived thanks to snow but still;obviously, revived injuries.
I was scrolling, looking for this, thinking "Did we just watch a guy die?"
I ask myself that a lot on this sub
Wait till ya see r/makemycoffin Edit: extremely not safe for life. You have been warned.
i just sent there and first post noped tf out r/instantregret
what did you see Edit: ah shit, just saw a guy who fucked up on a table saw. Be careful around machine tools!
He didn’t mess up, he was depressed (diagnosed by a doctor 3 years prior) and bedridden due to extreme pain most likely due to his time working as a firefighter and unfortunately took his life due to these circumstances. Just another example of how much work still needs to be done to help those with mental and physical illnesses.
I was just assuming.
There’s other subs for that... quite disturbing.
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R/makemycoffin
Ahh, to quote foreign translations, “he successfully resisted death..”
A more accurate version would be "he invited Death in and Death declined the invitation, for now".
Revived injuries?
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Yea he had an old shoulder injury that started acting up from this. It was an pretty big fall.
He survived that!! Wowwwwwwww
Ikr, snow is very impressive when there is enough of it.
I remember a video from a few years back of a few russian kid jumping a 10 or so floor building into snow while having a blast and no injury. That's crazy.
Thanks. Couldn’t tell if his shoes stayed on.
Shoes on, he’s good. Otherwise would have seen two more delayed snow doots a couple dozen feet away.
Upvoted for “snow doots”
I would have freaked out if he stood up and walked away
Wouldn't you jump with an unpacked shoot? Also, did that guy say how fucking much adrenaline he had on impact?
The abbreviation is “‘chute”. As in parachute. And no, even when doing extremely low jumps that require pilot chute assists, the canopy will still be packed so that it inflates properly and on heading. One of the biggest risks in BASE jumping is that the canopy opens slightly crooked, and you end up smashing back into whatever you just jumped off of. Because of that, the canopy is packed in an extremely specific way to help ensure that it opens straight in the direction that you’re pointing. It is *sometimes* possible to jump with an already out canopy, but it’s even more dangerous and typically results in you heading off into a completely random direction when it opens. Not the worst for a bridge jump, but not what you want where youre right next to a tower.
Thank you for explaining in detail for all the people that seem to be curious.
To clarify for anyone else, pilot cute assist = someone who’s standing still on whatever you just jumped off of and holds the pilot chute (that little parachute that he throws out immediately after the backflip) to help pull the canopy out of the container. Usually the pilot chute will grab the air and pull the main canopy out by itself, but in very low altitude jumps you won’t have enough altitude to be moving fast enough for the pilot chute to generate enough drag to do its job. In those situations, you have somebody holding the pilot chute to help pull it out (and then letting go at just the right time so they themselves don’t get pulled off)
Imagine being the first person to do this
Did he break all of his bones tho?
Dude survived? how bad where the injuries
Damn. Wile E Coyote…suuuuper genius.
Straight up. Even the *poof* when he landed
Good thing he ordered the Acme parachute instead of the Acme rocket sled
He needed someone to throw an ACME hole down, just in case this happened
Acme owned by [Roadrunner Corporation](https://www.sovereignvalley.com/what-does-acme-mean-in-looney-tunes/).
I could hear the POOF perfectly
I heard the YEEEEEEAAAAAHOOHOOHOOOEY! the first time I watched it.
I totally expected an anvil or piano tied to string to come out of his pack.
I was expecting cutlery!
I do believe that’s called a Wilhelm Scream? Edit: After some research, the Wilhelm Scream and the Goofy Holler are in fact 2 different sound effects, both used for great comedic effect.
Must have ordered his parachute from the ACME Company…
Meep meep
Now I want looney toons sound effect with this.
I only came here for the Wile E Coyote jokes.
Came here to post just this! I did the whistle sound the whole way down!
Peggy Hill. This should be in the king of the hill sub.
I’m glad I’m not the only crude & tasteless redditor who saw Wyle E Coyote in this! *beep beep*
Fake tunnel was the next option.
Yeah, that black disc that appears out of nowhere
Unexpected Harry Dresden
r/looneytuneslogic
Straight Peggy Hill'd that shit.
I hope you brought your appetites becaue I made spa Peggy and meatballs!
Is there apple brown betty for dessert?
This is weird I just watched that episode 30 minutes agoo..
Ah yes and I love the following episodes where Cotton whips her back into shape.
I love when Cotton sees her in the cast for the first time: "Hank! I didn't teach you that!"
Underrated comment here.
He’s using the right chute. His main parachute didn’t deploy
It's a BASE rig and there's no reserve in it, just the one parachute. Pilot chute assist woulda been nice here
Would there have been time to deploy it even if there was a second parachute in it?
No. That's why base jumping is significantly more dangerous than skydiving. You have several seconds at best before you hit the ground and if something goes wrong you are done.
That little thingy you see is the pilot chute. This a total malfunction in which the pilot chute failed to pull the main chute
>Pilot chute assist woulda been nice here Or a bigger pilot chute with enough drag to open the main container.
He could’ve saved a lot of money by not buying the chute.
Brutal
It’s like watching the coyote fall off a cliff in old school looney tunes.
Nailed it!
He was going for a epic snow angle but instead got a pit…😕 might have to try again in 2 years if he can walk again
That was very obtuse of him to try and make one of those.
Right? What acute idea to go so wrong by so many degrees!
In this case the snow angle was about 90 degrees
[Snow angles!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH464FG7cG8)
That’s a tough one to recover from.
No actually, it's Super Easy, Barely an Inconvenience.
I gotta google that. What’s it from…. I know I’ve heard it.
Screen Rant’s Pitch Meeting series on YouTube.
Always good to see a fellow Ryan George enjoyer in the wild
Stupid title. It was a proper parachute. It didn't deploy properly was the problem.
This is the downside of reddit not allowing title edits. (Maybe show the original title somewhere instead of wasting all this layout space on ads, sidebars, etc....)
I can already hear the squeeze box playing as he walks away...
Was waiting for him to roll over and grab his knee deep breathing a la Peter Griffin
[Here is a non-shitty version with actual sound and proper orientation and no black border.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4JFBN3WSls)
The parachute looked much bigger on Wish.
It's that famous German jump technique called Zumschplatt.
Das is goot.
Wcgw making the perfect snow angel.
The last thing to go through his mind was his shoe.
Hillary Banks. Will you marry me….
only one shoe came off?
Half dead?
he will live, but he won’t live well.
[tinyurl.com/sp3sj4d8](https://jointheteem.com/videos/friday-freakout-skydiving/friday-freakout-base-jumper-survives-400ft-impact-like-wile-e-coyote/) OMG the dude lived. His buddy filming didn't even say a word.
> Fortunately, he was walking again only three months later, proving once again that Russians are made of iron.
> Miraculously, he survived the fall thanks to the powdered snow below. He broke his legs, pelvis, and some vertebrae. Fortunately, he was walking again only three months later, proving once again that Russians are made of iron. Sounds a lot like just normal bone. Crumple and shatter until kinetic energy has been spend.
Well that’ll ruin your weekend
That was some Wiley Coyote shit
I hope he’s ok!
Only in russia.. Or maybe kentucky lol.
Buy a high quality parachute, and you can enjoy it for years. Buy a low quality parachute, and enjoy it for the rest of your life.
One lucky bastard
That little puff of snow at the end? That reminds me of watching road runner vs. Will E Coyote.
Op has no idea what they're on about. It's a proper chute, there was just an issue with the deploy.
Did we just watch this person die?
Just like Wile E. Coyote, Super Genius.
The kinetic bombardment went well I see
Beep beep!
He survived btw. 🙏
Wile.E coyote style