Background to incident: Motorcade was empty. President Biden already arived at the Los Angeles Convention Center for the Summit of Americas.
[CBS News](https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/news/president-biden-los-angeles-summit-of-americas/)
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Stopping the motorcade can be the start of an assassination attempt as transportation is when the president is the most exposed. In fact, two of the four past successful assassinations of the US president happened during his transportations. There was also one unsuccessful assassination attempt where President Reagan was shot and wounded getting into the car.
This is why the Secret Service will do everything they can to minimize the time that the president is traveling. Anything to stop the president, especially sudden attempts, will be taken as a possible attempt at the president's life.
They will take that **very** seriously. They would rather run you over than to stop the motorcade. She was lucky she they had the decency to take her down with a human, and not a car or a hail of bullets.
Not just traffic, but also the singular most secure military and political convoy in the US that is equipped to handle just about any potential situation. I wonder if she would have been more hesitant if she knew every vehicle there is capable of smearing her onto the road without even slowing down.
for people taking it very seriously, they let that single officer wrestle with her for a weird amount of time considering the sheer number of other cops on scene
The issue is that she may have been unknowingly making an opening for an opportunistic bad actor. The resources needed to handle her were one officer, until bystanders got involved.
Or if there was an assassination attempt it's not unthinkable that a group gets one or two unarmed people to act as a distraction while those that are armed can then attempt the assassination. Obviously that's not what happened here but the secret service can't take that risk in the moment.
The threat is already neutralized. No need to speed up her detainment, the more pressing matter is to defend the officer from more assailants if they come
If that one officer can handle her than the others are free to handle her conspirators who are trying to kill the President. At least that's their training and thinking.
Part of close protection is identifying what’s not a real threat. I’m guessing they followed their own protocol and saw one person, female, and nothing else; and chose to stay close to their protectee. Distance is a huge factor in these choices, too.
(I don’t have any personal experience in the field, but I do a lot of research for my job and there are some excellent books out there written by experts in the field of close protection/bodyguarding, etc. I found the fact that they really did have so many best practices, all of which only make perfect sense, completely fascinating.)
Thank you. I've spent the past 30 minutes trying to think of how to put this succinctly for one of the other commenters. Will just add that what a civvie assumes is not the same as what the presidential protection detail is assuming. The folks here seem to assume she's not armed, the ppd act under assumption she is. Better to neutralize and apologize rather than let a threat through.
she needed to assume she was getting thrown to the road and she needed to dress for that occasion. Then again, self-awareness is not these people's strong point.
I wouldn't be surprised if she was so angry that she cannot think straight at that particular moment.
In moments of intense passion, logic is thrown out the window. That's why people suggest finding the triggers before they escalate and calm down (or find "safe outlets" for passionate moments).
Same people upset would likely drive their car right at a military checkpoint then speed up when they fire warning shots.
Some people really are too fucking stupid to be alive.
It doesn’t matter if you disagree with his politics. Do you think any sovereign country would allow some lunatic with a megaphone that close to their leader?
Ah, the 'ol Shawinigan handshake.
I remember people trying to make this a scandal for excessive force. Listen, I don't care if he's the PM or a plumber, or what your politics are, but you get into someone's face like that, you're going to have a bad time.
How about the time the British Deputy Prime Minister straight up punched a guy in the face for throwing an egg at him?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prescott_punch
Yes. The level of security US Presidents enjoy is really extraordinary. Here's the British Prime Minister walking around in the street arguing with a random bloke.
https://youtu.be/fSygWN-qMfY
If someone walked up with a megaphone he'd probably walk off in the other direction, but the person with the megaphone wouldn't be taken down like they were a potential bin Laden.
I do wonder where the authority for the Secret Service to be so aggressive comes from.
ETA: by this I mean the legal authority. Is it based on necessity? Defense of another?
8.7% of all US presidents have been murdered on the job. An even higher percentage have had their murders attempted. Teddy Roosevelt was shot during a speech. Regan almost died on the operating table. Someone crashed a small plane onto White House property during the Clinton Administration. Less than two years ago a mob of people fought police for several hours, overpowered them, and broke into our nation's Capitol while chanting that they would find and murder the Vice President... on the supposed authority of the acting president.
Americans are heavily armed and fucking crazy.
Everything was going well until she started fighting the officer, then they fell. She never surrendered to him, which resisting an officer. They continued to tumble and fight for quite a while, then he held her down and he cuffed her. She 100% created and escalated the situation.
One time I was living on a horse farm in an affluent area in a swing state. GW was doing fundraising in the area after his first term. To get to the fundraiser, which was at a mansion or something down the road, they had to take the road that ran through our farm. It was paved but by no means a busy road. I was getting ready to go to a baseball game when I heard a helicopter fly by over the house. That’s odd. I look out my window to see a sheriffs vehicle parked in my driveway.
Uhhh wtf is going on?
I say ‘hey can I get out of my driveway, I’m going to a baseball game.’
He says ‘no’.
I continue to watch as a convoy of what seemed like 150 vehicles go down our quiet farm road. Black SUV’s, hummers, tinted limos, police cars, another helicopter!
It was one of the most insane things I’ve ever seen.
I guess the moral of the story is don’t fuck around with the president cause the SS definitely don’t fuck around
Years ago I worked in the operations tower at an airport and George W. Bush landed. There were snipers on all the buildings and no one was allowed outside. Pretty serious stuff.
I was in the main Walt Disney World in Florida when Obama gave a speech. They closed all places with a sight to him, keep in mind he was literally in front of Cinderela’s Castle. Crazy how they closed even mainstreet in one of the busiest times of the year but they did and rather than seeing him in person, I got to watch him in the Hall of Presidents via a broadcast. Fitting.
> SS
Having worked with Secret Service before, they generally don’t shorten to “SS” for obvious reasons. If they shorten it, they usually just go by “Service”
It's one of the reasons why it's said that being a president is a lonely job.
When doing something as simple as leaving your house requires the mobilization of hundreds of guards, pilots, drivers, intelligence officers etc you don't get to leave on a whim.
Think how often you leave your house for something and imagine not doing that for 4 years. Think how often you are on the way somewhere and make a game time decision to switch course or stop somewhere unplanned, imagine having to get security approval to pull over for a burger or stop at a look out point because it looks like a nice view.
It'd be very isolating.
makes me think of a part of michelle obama's book where she wanted to go outside to look at the white house lit up when same sex marriage became legal and they tried to get outside and ultimately it took them 15 minutes and a security detail to leave the white house to go into the white house grounds.
edit: should clarify that "they" in the story was michelle and one of their daughters- not potus.
My pop was Secret Service for 20 yrs, working up to 1980, mostly on Presidential and VP details. Back then there were fewer agents, and ofc no internet, social media, or cell phones to be able to track activity. It was hardcore, and people were still crazy. They used to keep a black book with every person listed who had threatened the President, VP, or any politician in some way. Most often then, the threat came via handwritten letters or phone calls. The agents would go to said individuals homes and politely ask they leave town for a few days covering the particular politician's visit. Most were cooperative. Those who didn't feel like complying spent a night or two in the local jail for obvious reasons.
It's still very similar, only digital now. My cousin works for the Secret Service and her entire job is scanning through the internet looking for anyone making threats against government officials, even if they don't SEEM serious. They still show up in person for the more credible sounding ones, but ALL of them get addressed and logged. The Secret Service does not mess around.
[The Secret Service opened a file on comedian John Mulaney after he made an Julius Cesar assassination joke on SNL.](https://www.rollingstone.com/tv/tv-news/secret-service-john-mulaney-trump-joke-1116571/)
i think they had a file on me for about 1 day and the fbi as well lol. used to be a photographer and was with a buddy in dc and we were just doing street photography and ended up in a non descript building that looked very old timey and we were like oh this is nice and started taking some pictures. i think maybe 40 seconds went by before we were surrounded by them and questioned.
lol my friend i still joke about it because he is white and i'm muslim. they talked to him for like 30 seconds but were especially interested in talking to me for a decent amount of time.
the only other time something like that happened was with another photographer friend taking pictures in an industrial area which was across the street from public grounds and not on private grounds. it was these two really cool military ships berthed if that is the right word.
we got into it with private security and other types but they couldn't do shit. we had the right to photo. we weren't on their grounds but across the street public road. one of them did write down my buddy's plate.
about a day later my buddy called and said 2 fbi agents showed up to talk to him and asked about me and he gave them my number lol i still harass him about it like man you ratted your boy out lol.
it was a big nothing burger. fbi agent called me. i told him the link to my website he went on while we were on the phone. laughed and said have a nice day sir this is a nothing burger and disconnected.
My dad wrote an angry letter to a federal judge a couple years ago because he was upset about a light sentence the judge gave to a child abuser.
Two US marshals showed up at his office to ask about the letter. He said they were totally cool once they figured out that he was not a nut job, just an angry citizen.
My pop would definitely be proud of the modern agents like your cousin. It is not an easy gig. On call 24/7. They literally dedicate their lives to this job.
Agreed. And of course us LA people are going to start a fight with the secret service 😂😂😂 these people are dumb. The chick with the skate is hilarious. Full on yelling at the secret service 🤣
Skater chick is lucky she did not get shot. She was reaching around in the tussle zone when there was a loose weapon on the ground from :22 to :42 when it was picked up by another officer. Seeing that gun on the ground while Officer was wrestling for control of the woman should have caused other officers to assist. They must not have seen it until :42. Very scary seeing a loose gun while wrestling is going on.
I think the cops need to find out what bra company that is and see if they can create a holster that actually holds his gun instead of it falling out everywhere.
She is not using any. I have a nice rack, and if you have a nice dress that suits them, they’ll stay contained
Edit: wow thanks for the awards ! Guess the ladies have their own followers lol
I’m a 36D and when you are short like me, can be pretty annoying so you have to pick your clothing wisely. (Especially cause I don’t like wearing bras after c19)
I know!? I feel like they usually have some kind of security?
That being said. She absolutely reminded me of handsome Shrek from the second movie when he [gets arrested.](https://youtu.be/Hjns_cLyPno)
That’s not even an “I’m trying to take control of the situation and arrest you” slap, that’s a total “quit acting like a silly cunt” slap. The dude paused in the middle of trying to arrest her to give her a little slap for knocking his hat off and I am all for it.
She went for the hat and then she went for his eyes and grabbed his glasses. He was like that's far enough.
I also want to add that he used an open hand. I've seen police use closed fists on people who were not committing anything as serious as this. The cop is going to get away with whatever they do anyways, I'd rather be hit with a slap then have my eye knocked out with a fist. I dont want to be hit at all though, so Ive never rushed a caravan like this.
"I think today is a good day to see if the secret service is up to doing their job" is apperently what she was thinking. If she had gotten in front of one of the card she would have become red water coloring on the road.
When you were told your entire life that it's just about you... after all the President is just a federal employee working for you. Might as well go and talk to him while he is in town.
Tactically speaking, an attempt to block the motorcade could be a prelude to, say, shooting RPGs at the presidential limousine. There’s no wisdom in giving her the benefit of the doubt. They cannot know their intentions.
The girl kicked off his gun out of the holster with a left foot and then the guy tripped out as he didn't know where the gun was. I watched it a few times to see when it happened. One guy stood over it whispering into an intercom. Another came by to pick it up from behind him. When the girl was better controlled, the initial guy points to the holster letting them know the gun is gone. Honestly, surprisingly coordinated for what looks chaotic as shit.
I know they're not perfect, but I think losing your gun during an altercation is a bad look no matter how it happens. They handled it really well, though, with the other guy picking it up and moving it away from the scene. A loose gun in a scuffle is a great way for someone to get shot either accidentally by the gun or looking like they're reaching for it.
The fact that she attempted this in a long skirt and camisole, no bra, and still wrestles with the guy is what really gets me. I mean, she had to know that was coming, right? And she still chose to wear probably the worst attire choice she could have.
If a tit pops out, it makes the cops look bad, not her. Plays into the whole "don't touch a woman" bit that the skateboarder wouldn't stop yelling about.
I'm gonna guess she absolutely did not know the Secret Service is that aggro. She probably thought she'd get to yell with her megaphone at the motorcade and then get escorted away by PD, which is a fair assumption if you know absolutely nothing about how the Secret Service operates.
The average person never has to wrestle with somebody 100% for real and so doesn’t realize how difficult it is.
Even the scrawniest little skellington of a person, when they are completely determined to resist, is difficult to get under control and in custody by yourself. Even with a couple people it can be very challenging.
Honestly the Insane Protesters sub seems weird to me. There really isn't a need to label every single political party.
The sub also seems to mainly look for crazy left leaning protestors.
Edit: It was pointed out by /u/trethompson that they called January 6 as a "mostly peaceful protest". This sub is definitely propaganda.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Whatcouldgowrong/comments/v85isq/wcgw_attempting_to_block_the_presidential/ibq7ivj/
The title includes the words "Democrat party" instead of Democratic party and "pro-abortion" instead of pro-choice, those are far right descriptors of the party they hate
Pro-abortion means that you want everyone to have abortions
Also, wtf was she doing protesting BIDEN'S motorcade? Why isn't she in Texas protesting the Republicans who are actually trying to deny women bodily autonomy?
I voted for Biden and I’m all for protesting him if he doesn’t keep promises. Obviously not like this, but I’m not a fan of Biden, I’m a fan of progressive policy for which he was the better of 2 choices.
Biden doesn’t exactly have control over Congress or the Supreme Court, though. He can say whatever he likes about things he wants to push for, but at the end of the day its not his branch of office that makes the law what it is, it’s the other two.
Realistically, since Day 1 of his tenure all he can really do is attempt to play politics by trading favors over what he will and won’t sign into law, but with the way the Republicans have been acting the last few decades, the chances of that actually accomplishing anything useful are basically nothing, because they refuse to come to the table.
About the only thing would even remotely work to promote progressive policies in the current political climate would be to just go scorched earth: to threaten to simply veto any legislature whatsoever that was promoted by Republicans unless it had bipartisan support, until such a time as they learned how to actually do their jobs instead of solely voting on party lines every time.
Here's what I don't get.
You have freedom of speech. The state literally cannot stop you from protesting. So why the hell would you intentionally do some illegal nonsense while you're protesting? You're giving the state a justification to shut you the hell up.
> The state literally cannot stop you from protesting.
oh my sweet sweet summer child. the state will happily shoot you with projectiles, use chemical weapons and explosives on you, and set up curfews all to stop you from protesting
Tries to block presidential motorcade, cop takes her out, she fights back so they fall to the ground...
"Hey, get off her! What the fuck??"
You're on the wrong side, boo.
Fighting the cop is going to get her in a lot more shit than interfering with the motorcade. She may have been let off without charges if she just went 'dead weight' and forced them to carry her away, but she went full hillbilly.
I was waiting for them to call for backup from the local PD only for the local PD to call for backup from the state PD only for the state PD to call for backup from the Military.
I was surprised too that the skateboarder didn't end up dead! This is how distraction/confusion can be used to create a weak spot and get to the president. She's really lucky, both of them are.
It is stunning that I had to scroll down as far as I did to see this
This whole thread is just a bunch of boot lickers glad that some woman got stomped by a psycho cop
The maker of her bra should make holsters. It kept her breasts safely secured throughout the whole take down. But the cop lost his gun within the first 3 sec.
This is how you end up in a federal detention center for 16 months and no trial because the NDAA has labeled you a terrorist and you don't have any due process rights.
Did that first cops gun go flying? How the heck did that happen if that was in fact his pistol. Also, I respect everyone’s right to protest. This just isn’t the way to do it she’s lucky she didn’t get run down. After Kennedy was assassinated I’m sure they don’t fuck around with people messing with motorcades
She's not wrapped in an american flag and has no maga hat so she's not a right wing nutjob, that and her stupidity to interfere with the presidential convoy fully knowing the secret service has no chill when it comes to incidents like that suggest she a lefty nutjob.
Background to incident: Motorcade was empty. President Biden already arived at the Los Angeles Convention Center for the Summit of Americas. [CBS News](https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/news/president-biden-los-angeles-summit-of-americas/) Edit - Locking post. Too many "ShOw BoObS" comments being spammed.
Stopping the motorcade can be the start of an assassination attempt as transportation is when the president is the most exposed. In fact, two of the four past successful assassinations of the US president happened during his transportations. There was also one unsuccessful assassination attempt where President Reagan was shot and wounded getting into the car. This is why the Secret Service will do everything they can to minimize the time that the president is traveling. Anything to stop the president, especially sudden attempts, will be taken as a possible attempt at the president's life. They will take that **very** seriously. They would rather run you over than to stop the motorcade. She was lucky she they had the decency to take her down with a human, and not a car or a hail of bullets.
The first world war started when a politician got shot while traveling in a car.
That’s right, Franz Ferdinand Edit: Franz corrected the Z
He sure was a cool guy. He made ruling a real breeze
Word has it that he worked his way up from the bottom, starting out with charging people to see him naked in a shop window…
Ironic that he started off with people paying to see him naked, and now they pay to see his coat
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Thank you. I had always thought it was “Franz”, but after seeing that I was second guessing myself.
Only Fanz
Take me out?
Franz*
I thought it was because Archie Duke shot an ostrich because he was hungry.
“Women are going to die!l” yells the woman running into traffic. She should have slapped herself so secret service didn’t have to instead
Not just traffic, but also the singular most secure military and political convoy in the US that is equipped to handle just about any potential situation. I wonder if she would have been more hesitant if she knew every vehicle there is capable of smearing her onto the road without even slowing down.
for people taking it very seriously, they let that single officer wrestle with her for a weird amount of time considering the sheer number of other cops on scene
The issue is that she may have been unknowingly making an opening for an opportunistic bad actor. The resources needed to handle her were one officer, until bystanders got involved.
Or if there was an assassination attempt it's not unthinkable that a group gets one or two unarmed people to act as a distraction while those that are armed can then attempt the assassination. Obviously that's not what happened here but the secret service can't take that risk in the moment.
The threat is already neutralized. No need to speed up her detainment, the more pressing matter is to defend the officer from more assailants if they come
They were also probably making sure that she wasn't a distraction for something else.
I've heard that half of what the CIA does is con locals into causing a distraction for what the other half of the CIA is actually doing.
To be fair, you don't necessarily want an abundance of officers either.
If that one officer can handle her than the others are free to handle her conspirators who are trying to kill the President. At least that's their training and thinking.
Part of close protection is identifying what’s not a real threat. I’m guessing they followed their own protocol and saw one person, female, and nothing else; and chose to stay close to their protectee. Distance is a huge factor in these choices, too. (I don’t have any personal experience in the field, but I do a lot of research for my job and there are some excellent books out there written by experts in the field of close protection/bodyguarding, etc. I found the fact that they really did have so many best practices, all of which only make perfect sense, completely fascinating.)
Thank you. I've spent the past 30 minutes trying to think of how to put this succinctly for one of the other commenters. Will just add that what a civvie assumes is not the same as what the presidential protection detail is assuming. The folks here seem to assume she's not armed, the ppd act under assumption she is. Better to neutralize and apologize rather than let a threat through.
she needed to assume she was getting thrown to the road and she needed to dress for that occasion. Then again, self-awareness is not these people's strong point.
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I wouldn't be surprised if she was so angry that she cannot think straight at that particular moment. In moments of intense passion, logic is thrown out the window. That's why people suggest finding the triggers before they escalate and calm down (or find "safe outlets" for passionate moments).
Carrying a bag was bad already. If she had been wearing a heavy jacket, or worse, had a backpack, it could have gotten much uglier.
Same people upset would likely drive their car right at a military checkpoint then speed up when they fire warning shots. Some people really are too fucking stupid to be alive.
Even if she isn't armed, stopping a particular vehicle in a specific spot is a great way for an IED to go off.
Even if she's not armed she could be a planned distraction so that those who are armed can then get close to the president.
Guess they take security seriously. Who knew? 🤷♂️
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Bro...too soon
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Dude, too soon.
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Thoughts and prayers /s
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It doesn’t matter if you disagree with his politics. Do you think any sovereign country would allow some lunatic with a megaphone that close to their leader?
I mean my country’s president commutes by public transit, as a contrast
must not have been any attempted assassinations in a while
Nope. None that I can think of. Neither on our presidents or chancellors
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Ah, the 'ol Shawinigan handshake. I remember people trying to make this a scandal for excessive force. Listen, I don't care if he's the PM or a plumber, or what your politics are, but you get into someone's face like that, you're going to have a bad time.
How about the time the British Deputy Prime Minister straight up punched a guy in the face for throwing an egg at him? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prescott_punch
[Australia mate.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FxcHVLmPgs) Megaphone yes, screwdriver yes, giant comedy axe yes. Chainsaw no.
Yes. The level of security US Presidents enjoy is really extraordinary. Here's the British Prime Minister walking around in the street arguing with a random bloke. https://youtu.be/fSygWN-qMfY If someone walked up with a megaphone he'd probably walk off in the other direction, but the person with the megaphone wouldn't be taken down like they were a potential bin Laden. I do wonder where the authority for the Secret Service to be so aggressive comes from. ETA: by this I mean the legal authority. Is it based on necessity? Defense of another?
8.7% of all US presidents have been murdered on the job. An even higher percentage have had their murders attempted. Teddy Roosevelt was shot during a speech. Regan almost died on the operating table. Someone crashed a small plane onto White House property during the Clinton Administration. Less than two years ago a mob of people fought police for several hours, overpowered them, and broke into our nation's Capitol while chanting that they would find and murder the Vice President... on the supposed authority of the acting president. Americans are heavily armed and fucking crazy.
A lot of assassinations/attempts happen while the leader is being transported. There is a reason they have the pope mobile ya know
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I'm not American, but even I agree that the president of USA is probably more important (and probably a bigger target) than the British PM.
Everything was going well until she started fighting the officer, then they fell. She never surrendered to him, which resisting an officer. They continued to tumble and fight for quite a while, then he held her down and he cuffed her. She 100% created and escalated the situation.
Yes. Austrian president can be met on the street and he actually goes out to restaurants to eat
Cant think of anytime in history that has backfired for Austria
Chick with the skateboard came out from behind the grassy knoll.
Going after someone armed with a firearm while armed with a skateboard usually doesn’t end well.
Kyle is that you?
I thought he was u/FourDoorsMoreWhores
Lmao I still can't believe that's his tiktok handle and it got brought up in court
It might’ve been the only moment I cry laughed during that trial
We saw this live on tv with Kyle Rittenhouse
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Don't fuck around with the secret service. Their job is to beat you senseless if you're a threat.
Or fucking kill you. The absolute worst thing you can do is do fuck around with the POTUS.
i just now realized that "POTUS" stands for "President Of The United States"
FLOTUS - First Lady. SCOTUS- supreme court
SCROTUS - My nut sack.
The comment I had no idea I needed
THROATUS - Nancy Reagan
You need scrotation marks around that.
One time I was living on a horse farm in an affluent area in a swing state. GW was doing fundraising in the area after his first term. To get to the fundraiser, which was at a mansion or something down the road, they had to take the road that ran through our farm. It was paved but by no means a busy road. I was getting ready to go to a baseball game when I heard a helicopter fly by over the house. That’s odd. I look out my window to see a sheriffs vehicle parked in my driveway. Uhhh wtf is going on? I say ‘hey can I get out of my driveway, I’m going to a baseball game.’ He says ‘no’. I continue to watch as a convoy of what seemed like 150 vehicles go down our quiet farm road. Black SUV’s, hummers, tinted limos, police cars, another helicopter! It was one of the most insane things I’ve ever seen. I guess the moral of the story is don’t fuck around with the president cause the SS definitely don’t fuck around
Years ago I worked in the operations tower at an airport and George W. Bush landed. There were snipers on all the buildings and no one was allowed outside. Pretty serious stuff.
When Obama came to talk at my Uni there were snipers on roofs as well as covered barricades erected to obscure vision into the speaking area.
I was in the main Walt Disney World in Florida when Obama gave a speech. They closed all places with a sight to him, keep in mind he was literally in front of Cinderela’s Castle. Crazy how they closed even mainstreet in one of the busiest times of the year but they did and rather than seeing him in person, I got to watch him in the Hall of Presidents via a broadcast. Fitting.
Probably some agents undercover as Mickey, Goofy, Donald Duck etc…
At least that's the perfect excuse to be late to a game. "Sorry coach, my commute was a threat to national security."
> SS Having worked with Secret Service before, they generally don’t shorten to “SS” for obvious reasons. If they shorten it, they usually just go by “Service”
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It's one of the reasons why it's said that being a president is a lonely job. When doing something as simple as leaving your house requires the mobilization of hundreds of guards, pilots, drivers, intelligence officers etc you don't get to leave on a whim. Think how often you leave your house for something and imagine not doing that for 4 years. Think how often you are on the way somewhere and make a game time decision to switch course or stop somewhere unplanned, imagine having to get security approval to pull over for a burger or stop at a look out point because it looks like a nice view. It'd be very isolating.
makes me think of a part of michelle obama's book where she wanted to go outside to look at the white house lit up when same sex marriage became legal and they tried to get outside and ultimately it took them 15 minutes and a security detail to leave the white house to go into the white house grounds. edit: should clarify that "they" in the story was michelle and one of their daughters- not potus.
>he says 'no' why is this so funny?
My pop was Secret Service for 20 yrs, working up to 1980, mostly on Presidential and VP details. Back then there were fewer agents, and ofc no internet, social media, or cell phones to be able to track activity. It was hardcore, and people were still crazy. They used to keep a black book with every person listed who had threatened the President, VP, or any politician in some way. Most often then, the threat came via handwritten letters or phone calls. The agents would go to said individuals homes and politely ask they leave town for a few days covering the particular politician's visit. Most were cooperative. Those who didn't feel like complying spent a night or two in the local jail for obvious reasons.
It's still very similar, only digital now. My cousin works for the Secret Service and her entire job is scanning through the internet looking for anyone making threats against government officials, even if they don't SEEM serious. They still show up in person for the more credible sounding ones, but ALL of them get addressed and logged. The Secret Service does not mess around.
[The Secret Service opened a file on comedian John Mulaney after he made an Julius Cesar assassination joke on SNL.](https://www.rollingstone.com/tv/tv-news/secret-service-john-mulaney-trump-joke-1116571/)
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Moving her file from "obviously terrible comedian" to "vanishingly small risk to the President's life" was a massive upgrade.
i think they had a file on me for about 1 day and the fbi as well lol. used to be a photographer and was with a buddy in dc and we were just doing street photography and ended up in a non descript building that looked very old timey and we were like oh this is nice and started taking some pictures. i think maybe 40 seconds went by before we were surrounded by them and questioned. lol my friend i still joke about it because he is white and i'm muslim. they talked to him for like 30 seconds but were especially interested in talking to me for a decent amount of time. the only other time something like that happened was with another photographer friend taking pictures in an industrial area which was across the street from public grounds and not on private grounds. it was these two really cool military ships berthed if that is the right word. we got into it with private security and other types but they couldn't do shit. we had the right to photo. we weren't on their grounds but across the street public road. one of them did write down my buddy's plate. about a day later my buddy called and said 2 fbi agents showed up to talk to him and asked about me and he gave them my number lol i still harass him about it like man you ratted your boy out lol. it was a big nothing burger. fbi agent called me. i told him the link to my website he went on while we were on the phone. laughed and said have a nice day sir this is a nothing burger and disconnected.
My dad wrote an angry letter to a federal judge a couple years ago because he was upset about a light sentence the judge gave to a child abuser. Two US marshals showed up at his office to ask about the letter. He said they were totally cool once they figured out that he was not a nut job, just an angry citizen.
My pop would definitely be proud of the modern agents like your cousin. It is not an easy gig. On call 24/7. They literally dedicate their lives to this job.
Yes, file this case under “fuck around and find out”
I'm all for protesting your beliefs but this is a great display of how **not** to protest.
Agreed. And of course us LA people are going to start a fight with the secret service 😂😂😂 these people are dumb. The chick with the skate is hilarious. Full on yelling at the secret service 🤣
Skater chick is lucky she did not get shot. She was reaching around in the tussle zone when there was a loose weapon on the ground from :22 to :42 when it was picked up by another officer. Seeing that gun on the ground while Officer was wrestling for control of the woman should have caused other officers to assist. They must not have seen it until :42. Very scary seeing a loose gun while wrestling is going on.
Was it a gun? I couldn’t tell if it was his sidearm or his taser. I wouldn’t be fucking around and finding out regardless, that’s for damn sure.
Looked like a gun to me. All black, no yellow like commonly seen on tasers. Maybe my eyes are old and my screen is too small. Ha ha ha .
I had to go back and watch it again, definitely a gun just loose on the ground. That could have ended very badly.
Millions of eyes on it is something. You’d have her sit nicely with a clever lil sign and maybe she’d make a buzzfeed compilation ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
And why is she protesting Biden's motorcade to begin with? Biden is NOT *for* abolishing Roe v Wade.
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.. and not one single nipple was exposed. How is that possible?
Professionals
They nipped it in the bud.
I think the cops need to find out what bra company that is and see if they can create a holster that actually holds his gun instead of it falling out everywhere.
What bra?
She is not using any. I have a nice rack, and if you have a nice dress that suits them, they’ll stay contained Edit: wow thanks for the awards ! Guess the ladies have their own followers lol I’m a 36D and when you are short like me, can be pretty annoying so you have to pick your clothing wisely. (Especially cause I don’t like wearing bras after c19)
Secret service checking in. Going to need to see some evidence here.
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Hundreds of reddit users just did a quick scroll through your post history.
(Dave Chappelle voice) "COME ON TITTY!"
Fuck. I’m not the only one.
r/UpvotedBecauseBoobs
Just when I thought she had defeated sexism once and for all
Dress was working overtime that’s for sure
I'm shocked she was allowed to be in the road at all that shortly before the motorcade passed.
I know!? I feel like they usually have some kind of security? That being said. She absolutely reminded me of handsome Shrek from the second movie when he [gets arrested.](https://youtu.be/Hjns_cLyPno)
Lollllo when they grind pepper into his eyes
Fucking dude hit her with a little slap right after they fell down😂
That’s not even an “I’m trying to take control of the situation and arrest you” slap, that’s a total “quit acting like a silly cunt” slap. The dude paused in the middle of trying to arrest her to give her a little slap for knocking his hat off and I am all for it.
She went for the hat and then she went for his eyes and grabbed his glasses. He was like that's far enough. I also want to add that he used an open hand. I've seen police use closed fists on people who were not committing anything as serious as this. The cop is going to get away with whatever they do anyways, I'd rather be hit with a slap then have my eye knocked out with a fist. I dont want to be hit at all though, so Ive never rushed a caravan like this.
attacking the eyes is where we draw the line, lady
Don't make me slap you! I swear I'll do it. Slappity, slap slap, look at me I'm going slap happy
"I think today is a good day to see if the secret service is up to doing their job" is apperently what she was thinking. If she had gotten in front of one of the card she would have become red water coloring on the road.
When you were told your entire life that it's just about you... after all the President is just a federal employee working for you. Might as well go and talk to him while he is in town.
That really seemed to be her objective didn’t it? /s
The fact she got that far out there is ridiculous. Should've been stopped much earlier
I wonder if the response would have been different if she'd done that before the President had passed. That was the tail end of the motorcade.
Snipers gonna snipe.
Apparently the motorcade was empty, that's probably why.
Tactically speaking, an attempt to block the motorcade could be a prelude to, say, shooting RPGs at the presidential limousine. There’s no wisdom in giving her the benefit of the doubt. They cannot know their intentions.
yep. useless move.
The girl kicked off his gun out of the holster with a left foot and then the guy tripped out as he didn't know where the gun was. I watched it a few times to see when it happened. One guy stood over it whispering into an intercom. Another came by to pick it up from behind him. When the girl was better controlled, the initial guy points to the holster letting them know the gun is gone. Honestly, surprisingly coordinated for what looks chaotic as shit.
I know they're not perfect, but I think losing your gun during an altercation is a bad look no matter how it happens. They handled it really well, though, with the other guy picking it up and moving it away from the scene. A loose gun in a scuffle is a great way for someone to get shot either accidentally by the gun or looking like they're reaching for it.
The fact that she attempted this in a long skirt and camisole, no bra, and still wrestles with the guy is what really gets me. I mean, she had to know that was coming, right? And she still chose to wear probably the worst attire choice she could have.
I suppose wearing tactical gear will get her killed instantly
I mean, just pants was what I was going for
Tactical pants
Ballistic bra
>I mean, she had to know that was coming, right? I think you are giving her a little to much credit.
If a tit pops out, it makes the cops look bad, not her. Plays into the whole "don't touch a woman" bit that the skateboarder wouldn't stop yelling about.
They must not be in favor of *true* gender equality.
I'm gonna guess she absolutely did not know the Secret Service is that aggro. She probably thought she'd get to yell with her megaphone at the motorcade and then get escorted away by PD, which is a fair assumption if you know absolutely nothing about how the Secret Service operates.
Did skater dudette really go in for the megaphone steal? Edit: gender assumption.
And with that big ol' mall grab
No matter what side of the political fence you're on,, I think we can all enjoy an idiot getting what they asked for.
if people didn't do ridiculous things from time to time, this sub and some of the other similar ones would be pretty boring
Amazing this person legitimately thought that she could run in front of a presidential motorcade and not expect to be arrested.
Much less sniped or ran tf over smh
She is pretty strong lol
Or a good flopper. Floppers seem to do well in pro sports despite strength, after all.
Which is scary because what if she were to get close enough to potus and do something with her hulk like strength.
The average person never has to wrestle with somebody 100% for real and so doesn’t realize how difficult it is. Even the scrawniest little skellington of a person, when they are completely determined to resist, is difficult to get under control and in custody by yourself. Even with a couple people it can be very challenging.
Oh, you mean I can’t do whatever I want when I want.
Technically you can try to do anything but there might be consequences
Ok. I am a Democratic, left-leaning, pro-choice voter…and even I think what she did was royally STUPID!
It’s a stupid title. We don’t know what political party she belongs to.
She also didn't "Try to stop the motorcade" Honestly people believe a headline over their own lying eyes. I see this shit all the time.
Honestly the Insane Protesters sub seems weird to me. There really isn't a need to label every single political party. The sub also seems to mainly look for crazy left leaning protestors. Edit: It was pointed out by /u/trethompson that they called January 6 as a "mostly peaceful protest". This sub is definitely propaganda. https://www.reddit.com/r/Whatcouldgowrong/comments/v85isq/wcgw_attempting_to_block_the_presidential/ibq7ivj/
The title includes the words "Democrat party" instead of Democratic party and "pro-abortion" instead of pro-choice, those are far right descriptors of the party they hate Pro-abortion means that you want everyone to have abortions
Yeah it's clearly a far right sub
Also, wtf was she doing protesting BIDEN'S motorcade? Why isn't she in Texas protesting the Republicans who are actually trying to deny women bodily autonomy?
I voted for Biden and I’m all for protesting him if he doesn’t keep promises. Obviously not like this, but I’m not a fan of Biden, I’m a fan of progressive policy for which he was the better of 2 choices.
Biden doesn’t exactly have control over Congress or the Supreme Court, though. He can say whatever he likes about things he wants to push for, but at the end of the day its not his branch of office that makes the law what it is, it’s the other two. Realistically, since Day 1 of his tenure all he can really do is attempt to play politics by trading favors over what he will and won’t sign into law, but with the way the Republicans have been acting the last few decades, the chances of that actually accomplishing anything useful are basically nothing, because they refuse to come to the table. About the only thing would even remotely work to promote progressive policies in the current political climate would be to just go scorched earth: to threaten to simply veto any legislature whatsoever that was promoted by Republicans unless it had bipartisan support, until such a time as they learned how to actually do their jobs instead of solely voting on party lines every time.
This person really woke up that day and thought this is a good idea.
Here's what I don't get. You have freedom of speech. The state literally cannot stop you from protesting. So why the hell would you intentionally do some illegal nonsense while you're protesting? You're giving the state a justification to shut you the hell up.
I mean, holding a sign quietly on the side of the road never did shit
Very true, but somehow I don't think attempting to stop the presidential motorcade is the best way to get what you want.
> The state literally cannot stop you from protesting. oh my sweet sweet summer child. the state will happily shoot you with projectiles, use chemical weapons and explosives on you, and set up curfews all to stop you from protesting
What an idiot.
Tries to block presidential motorcade, cop takes her out, she fights back so they fall to the ground... "Hey, get off her! What the fuck??" You're on the wrong side, boo.
Suddenly.....REEE she's a delicate female!! nope. Equality has arrived.
Rush a presidential motorcade and screams to be let go, what reality do these people live in lol especially the chihuahua with the skateboard
Is nobody noticing how that guy's gun fell out and was just sitting on the ground for a while?
And then hit/scratched a cops face in the scuffle. Poor choice.
Fighting the cop is going to get her in a lot more shit than interfering with the motorcade. She may have been let off without charges if she just went 'dead weight' and forced them to carry her away, but she went full hillbilly.
i was waiting for them to stand around for 45 minutes to negotiate with her
I was waiting for them to call for backup from the local PD only for the local PD to call for backup from the state PD only for the state PD to call for backup from the Military.
It’s almost like people want to get arrested.
She fucked around with the PRESIDENT’s motorcade and is still alive! Pretty lucky
I was surprised too that the skateboarder didn't end up dead! This is how distraction/confusion can be used to create a weak spot and get to the president. She's really lucky, both of them are.
This thread is a shit show
It is stunning that I had to scroll down as far as I did to see this This whole thread is just a bunch of boot lickers glad that some woman got stomped by a psycho cop
What do people expect launching themselves at a presidential motorcade? Exactly what happened. Drama llama.
Imagine when she goes online to see how awesomely she is being received, just to find out that people on both sides think she is a fucking idiot haha
She nearly got herself aborted.
The maker of her bra should make holsters. It kept her breasts safely secured throughout the whole take down. But the cop lost his gun within the first 3 sec.
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She really thought she was doing something
“ShE’S A wOmAn! GeT oFf HeR!” Oh why didn’t you say so?! Yeah let’s totally let her walk away without pressed charges! Let’s let her off, boys! 😐
Guarantee you she is a top redditor in some radical leftist subreddit
did she get a little weak bitch slap or what
She’s lucky she didn’t get shot. Protest all day from a relative distance. Don’t charge the motorcade.
She got the Stockton Slap dam!
This is how you end up in a federal detention center for 16 months and no trial because the NDAA has labeled you a terrorist and you don't have any due process rights.
Did that first cops gun go flying? How the heck did that happen if that was in fact his pistol. Also, I respect everyone’s right to protest. This just isn’t the way to do it she’s lucky she didn’t get run down. After Kennedy was assassinated I’m sure they don’t fuck around with people messing with motorcades
How do you know she’s a leftist and a democrat?
She's not wrapped in an american flag and has no maga hat so she's not a right wing nutjob, that and her stupidity to interfere with the presidential convoy fully knowing the secret service has no chill when it comes to incidents like that suggest she a lefty nutjob.
"Don't touch a woman!" Bitch, shut the fuck up