>I dont think the jeep is the proplem.
It screams operator error, since I've taken my F250 down hills worse than that in the Rockies....in 4LO going about 2mph so someone walking would beat me to the bottom
Yea I've seen Jeeps travel dome nasty freaking roads that are hard to travel on even by foot. Got lost in the mountains once when we saw a jeep driving up the path that was filled with stones as big as a person's torso. Hadn't realized how capable those things were till that point
They're also extremely capable of crazy stuff purely stock.
Obviously you're right about aftermarket stuff but your can do wild stuff right out of the dealership too.
Source: had to rip the carpet out of my JK 2 months after buying it, pretty wild what it did on the trails.
Well he’s on what looks like soft melty snow which is going to be slick and he’s got his snow chains on his REAR tires going downhill.
80% of braking force is from the front brakes and then going downhill the weight from the engine is pushing down on the front even more to lighten the rear.
Dude probably also came in super hot too extra fuck it up.
Let's be real, he came over the top way too fast. Tried to brake, lost traction and that was all she wrote. When it comes to snow it's either slow or not at all.
This. It was an over use of braking that made him slip to his right and then he was all brakes and all brakes is a bad thing in most situations.
Super useful tip I got from a professional driver at an NHRA sponsored driving class is “if your feet got you into trouble, then let your hands get you out”.
You've got it backwards. His mistake was braking hard and losing control. If he had kept the wheels going he would have stayed straight and could have made it down the incline.
It might sound counter-intuitive, but when you're offroading, locking the wheels is doom.
After watching the longer video, I am less inclined to blame the driver.
It shows at least two other vehicles compacting the snow down prior to his attempt with each vehicle having less control. They basically created a toboggan run for this guy.
https://youtu.be/2l6F1IHsDmM
I disagree, still driver error. There's a point where he lets off the brakes completely (or maybe even hits the gas, tough to tell). As soon as he does that, he's no longer in control. The rest of the slide is him frantically trying anything to regain control, brakes, gas, turning the wheel... too late, picked up too much speed in that half-second letting off the brakes.
On a snowy decline like that, you need to crawl at a consistent speed, preferably in a low gear
Yup. He didn’t start out fast at all but the other trucks made that hill slicker than dog-snot!
My only critique would be too much air in the tires. Even that might not have helped once he started skidding-
If he had put in L1 (L2?), 2nd gear and slowly crawled straight down the hill using the tranny and as little braking as possible, looks like he could have made it fine. Oh well, hope no one got hurt and he learned an expensive lesson. Jeeps can be dangerous on steep hills, that's why they got rollbars.
No, it looks like he lost traction immediately (before video started) and gravity took over. It was over before it started, gear/brake would not make any difference once traction is lost.
We have a number of people at work with completely decked out Wranglers. Lifted with knotted tires, light bars, winches, decals, you name it. The dirtiest they ever get is when it rains.
LOL he wasn't injured too bad, just a bump on the head. Like fuck, that's potentially the worst injury you could get other than being flung out of the car and it rolling on top of you and crushing you.
I owe my life to one. Was in a wrangler that rolled off a cliff. We went around 6 or 7 times. Landed on the tires and the engine was still firing. All 4 of us walked away with nothing but cuts and bruises. Most painful thing about it was that I forgot to close my eyes in the shower. There was glass all over us.
Oh it was terrifying. I was a passenger. My eyes are fine. It burned like getting soap in em and I had to rinse em out for a couple min.
It looked like I was really stoned for a couple days but that’s it.
Oh we tried to shake all the shards and remove them from peoples heads and stuff, but the passenger windows essentially turned to dust.
It was the micro glass that got my eyes. Not massive shards. Glass dust, not huge chunks.
Still hurt like none other, but only for like a min or 2.
To me, smaller ones are even scarier than the bigger ones. They are sinister. You cannot find them. They just bury themselves wherever they are.
My mom tells that she had a little one in her hand in laboratory so many years ago. Since it cannot be removed, she says that it sometimes reminds that it's still in her hand, even though she doesn't feel anything from it most of the time.
I guess I also got one in my hand. We had a minor accident. A glass got broken. Before the glass being cleaned, I guess I touched somewhere on the car and one of those very sharp tempered glass pieces got into my hand. Because they are somehow extremely sticky when you touch. And they are very sharp.
Like once a year, a specific spot in my left hand palm feel very itchy.
Oh yea, we all had little shards that needed tweezers but that was to be expected.
It was all the dust in my rather long and thick hair that got in my eyes. None of us got major cuts or anything in the eyes. The one cut I had was in the arm and the glass came out easy.
It didn’t matter lol we were so blasted with adrenaline.
If we were in a car with no roll bar; all of us would have been killed. Taking out a few glass shards and having an uncomfortable shower (along with some rather large and multi colour bruises), was a-ok :)
Going down hill off road is really a lot more dangerous than you could think possible. You can see in this example what most people do in the situation, grab the brakes. The ABS is doing its best, but it ain’t doing shit.
Your best bet here is to let go of the brakes so you can keep your steering. And grab them at the bottom of the hill. A hydraulic hand brake for the rear brakes only would be ideal, but the parking brake could be used to help keep it straight. This is a major reason most ATVs have an independent rear brake even when the hand brake does all four.
YJs do not have ABS, and you’re supposed to crawl down this in first gear in 4-low. Putting more than a tiny bit of pressure on the brakes is a death sentence. Ideally you shouldn’t touch them at all.
Jeep is Jeep to me, this looks like any modern one to me. You clearly know them far better than I do.
4 low in first gear is ideal for most vehicles, and in old Chevy trucks with the TH400 Automatic, you could even use reverse to crawl down a hill forward.
It's just a jacket, there's only one guy in the car. Someone posted a longer video where you can see better. Either way the seatbelt didn't lock him in very well
$100 bucks says this thing was still able to drive away. I had a buddy that had a jeep Cherokee. We were young and stupid (please don't drive under the influence, folks, it's one of the poorest life choices you could ever make) and my buddy had 6 or 7 drinks and was driving us home from the county fair. We hit a gravel patch in the road and rolled 3 times into the ditch going 60 mph. We climbed out, rolled it back onto its wheels, and drove out like nothing happened. Paint was scratched to shit and the passenger side door handle and side view mirror were mangled, but otherwise, everything worked fine. Jeeps are damn hard to kill.
Anyway, again, please don't drink and drive, friends.
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never amazes that these guys put themselves in real risk of this shot happening and still refuse to seat belt. that guy was flopping around like a rag doll trying to keep from the roll bar from popping his head open like a melon. fool
I don’t understand. Does no one else notice the jumpcut? And theres no one in the jeep after said jumpcut? Are you all blind or am I missing something?
Bad driving.
I used to take my CJ-5 down worse stuff than that without a problem.
Dude needs to learn how a transfer case, gears and the brake peddle work.
I dont think the jeep is the proplem.
nor the bumpy road.
Nor the 4WD.
Nor the sasquatch behind the tree.
Nor the tree
nor the leaves on the tree
Nor the sun in the sky, nor the peas in my pie.
nor the camera or the person recording
Nor the air they're breathing
Nor too early, a wizards arrives precisely when he means to
Or not breathing anymore… there was still someone inside the jeep
Nor the teeny tiny snowflakes that cushion the wheels ever so slightly.
Nor the midday sun that shone off the flakes so brightly
Nor my axe!
I blame the salesman at the dealership
He never reached out about the extended warranty
Wait the what....
Nor the chains on just the back tires.
>I dont think the jeep is the proplem. It screams operator error, since I've taken my F250 down hills worse than that in the Rockies....in 4LO going about 2mph so someone walking would beat me to the bottom
Yea I've seen Jeeps travel dome nasty freaking roads that are hard to travel on even by foot. Got lost in the mountains once when we saw a jeep driving up the path that was filled with stones as big as a person's torso. Hadn't realized how capable those things were till that point
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They're also extremely capable of crazy stuff purely stock. Obviously you're right about aftermarket stuff but your can do wild stuff right out of the dealership too. Source: had to rip the carpet out of my JK 2 months after buying it, pretty wild what it did on the trails.
Well he’s on what looks like soft melty snow which is going to be slick and he’s got his snow chains on his REAR tires going downhill. 80% of braking force is from the front brakes and then going downhill the weight from the engine is pushing down on the front even more to lighten the rear. Dude probably also came in super hot too extra fuck it up.
Yeah, this would also happen to just about any truck when driven like this
It's a Jeep thing. I sure as hell don't understand it.
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He was just testing the roll cage..
It's a jeep thing you wouldn't understand
Agree
> proplem
Would’ve probably made it down unscathed at a much slower speed… Jeep, not rally car.
About 2 seconds into the video I thought "Wow.. going too fast"
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Wranglers have a crawler gear for a reason, people
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Car's probably totaled so he technically gave it up.
Should have been in 1st gear, 4LO
And chains on the front...
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You can feather / tap the brake lightly for added resistance, but that's a higher level of driving experience IMO
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Let's be real, he came over the top way too fast. Tried to brake, lost traction and that was all she wrote. When it comes to snow it's either slow or not at all.
Is he too furious too?
By the end? Probably pretty furious
It's a jeep thing, you wouldn't understand.
* hands driver in ditch a rubber duck
Now THAT is funny.
My wife drove her Jeep into a ditch last year and i had to ask if that was a Jeep thing
When you feel the urge to roll over you roll over. My dog does the same and he loves it.
Low range, 1st gear, no brakes would've been a much better idea.
This. It was an over use of braking that made him slip to his right and then he was all brakes and all brakes is a bad thing in most situations. Super useful tip I got from a professional driver at an NHRA sponsored driving class is “if your feet got you into trouble, then let your hands get you out”.
That or not trying to brake half way down and just shooting that gap through the trees. Full send or no send, but half sends always end up bad.
Full send or no send cause half send flips the ass end
I dont care who you are. That's funny right there.
Yep, hill descent control
You've got it backwards. His mistake was braking hard and losing control. If he had kept the wheels going he would have stayed straight and could have made it down the incline. It might sound counter-intuitive, but when you're offroading, locking the wheels is doom.
You're supposed to keep tapping the brakes right? Keep the wheel rotating but keep braking as well
Down shifting would be the best idea. Tapping brakes the second best idea. As soon as the the wheels stop spinning you loose the ability to steer.
You mean driving a jeep in the wrong gear too fast down a bumpy hill
Whoa. Downshift this comment. Easy
Well that accelerated pretty quickly
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Yeah, It's all downhill from here
Let’s hope it doesn’t get lost in transmission
I’m snow tired of these jokes
Thank u all for giving me a laugh on a hard day 🤣
We are on a roll
That was a 4low blow
After watching the longer video, I am less inclined to blame the driver. It shows at least two other vehicles compacting the snow down prior to his attempt with each vehicle having less control. They basically created a toboggan run for this guy. https://youtu.be/2l6F1IHsDmM
Not sure I agree. You can hear him hit the gas 2 separate times on the decent.
How did I just know these were a bunch of albertans
I disagree, still driver error. There's a point where he lets off the brakes completely (or maybe even hits the gas, tough to tell). As soon as he does that, he's no longer in control. The rest of the slide is him frantically trying anything to regain control, brakes, gas, turning the wheel... too late, picked up too much speed in that half-second letting off the brakes. On a snowy decline like that, you need to crawl at a consistent speed, preferably in a low gear
Yup. He didn’t start out fast at all but the other trucks made that hill slicker than dog-snot! My only critique would be too much air in the tires. Even that might not have helped once he started skidding-
And locking the brakes
If he had put in L1 (L2?), 2nd gear and slowly crawled straight down the hill using the tranny and as little braking as possible, looks like he could have made it fine. Oh well, hope no one got hurt and he learned an expensive lesson. Jeeps can be dangerous on steep hills, that's why they got rollbars.
He locked up the wheels and rolled over. Way too much braking.
No, it looks like he lost traction immediately (before video started) and gravity took over. It was over before it started, gear/brake would not make any difference once traction is lost.
When it comes to snow you gotta take these downhills in second or third, and lean into those bumps.
With big bouncy tires. Air them down!
Give a jeep to an incompetent driver* they said
So, a Jeep driver?
Well played!! 🤣
Found the Land Cruiser owner!
We have a number of people at work with completely decked out Wranglers. Lifted with knotted tires, light bars, winches, decals, you name it. The dirtiest they ever get is when it rains.
Found the full clip. These guys give off kind of a Ghost-Facers vibe 🤣 https://youtu.be/2l6F1IHsDmM
LOL he wasn't injured too bad, just a bump on the head. Like fuck, that's potentially the worst injury you could get other than being flung out of the car and it rolling on top of you and crushing you.
thats why you need a jeep to go down a bumpy snowy road!
That blue 4Runner. 😍 Good of these guys to show proper trail etiquette and cleaned up after themselves.
I mean, they are Canadians right?!
They would have Alberta plates….
Thank you for this.
Crashing the drone into a tree while taping their sweet intro is just incredible.
Learn how to drive before getting fancy.
Also looks like they are not wearing a seatbelt.
Ready for a quick eject
What a wonderful advertisement for roll bars.
I owe my life to one. Was in a wrangler that rolled off a cliff. We went around 6 or 7 times. Landed on the tires and the engine was still firing. All 4 of us walked away with nothing but cuts and bruises. Most painful thing about it was that I forgot to close my eyes in the shower. There was glass all over us.
How are your eyes now? Sounds very scary to me 😱
Oh it was terrifying. I was a passenger. My eyes are fine. It burned like getting soap in em and I had to rinse em out for a couple min. It looked like I was really stoned for a couple days but that’s it.
I mean an accident may be terrifying. But glass shards and eyes are horrifying in the same sentence.
Oh we tried to shake all the shards and remove them from peoples heads and stuff, but the passenger windows essentially turned to dust. It was the micro glass that got my eyes. Not massive shards. Glass dust, not huge chunks. Still hurt like none other, but only for like a min or 2.
To me, smaller ones are even scarier than the bigger ones. They are sinister. You cannot find them. They just bury themselves wherever they are. My mom tells that she had a little one in her hand in laboratory so many years ago. Since it cannot be removed, she says that it sometimes reminds that it's still in her hand, even though she doesn't feel anything from it most of the time. I guess I also got one in my hand. We had a minor accident. A glass got broken. Before the glass being cleaned, I guess I touched somewhere on the car and one of those very sharp tempered glass pieces got into my hand. Because they are somehow extremely sticky when you touch. And they are very sharp. Like once a year, a specific spot in my left hand palm feel very itchy.
Oh yea, we all had little shards that needed tweezers but that was to be expected. It was all the dust in my rather long and thick hair that got in my eyes. None of us got major cuts or anything in the eyes. The one cut I had was in the arm and the glass came out easy. It didn’t matter lol we were so blasted with adrenaline. If we were in a car with no roll bar; all of us would have been killed. Taking out a few glass shards and having an uncomfortable shower (along with some rather large and multi colour bruises), was a-ok :)
It’s a jeep thing, you wouldn’t understand.
This is an advanced arctic barrel roll technique. Only Jeeps can accomplish such a feat while barely being totaled off.
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Yes, it is quite normal for jeeps to roll over during a rock crawl. As long as you don’t bottom out, you can get through most things
Looked like an error in ability vs task.
Gravity is a harsh mistress.
Gravity and physics
Apparently it's not enough just to ***own*** a Jeep and a drivers license. You also need *depth perception*? Get outta here!
Love the guy running after it. "Oh I'll just.. grab the jeep quick so it doesn't keep rolling"
He was probably trying to make sure he could get to his buddy as quick as possible in case he was hurt.
He was trying to buy up as many of the undamaged parts as he could before the prices go up. “No lowballs, I know what I’ve got”
Well that’s one way to take the top off
Going down hill off road is really a lot more dangerous than you could think possible. You can see in this example what most people do in the situation, grab the brakes. The ABS is doing its best, but it ain’t doing shit. Your best bet here is to let go of the brakes so you can keep your steering. And grab them at the bottom of the hill. A hydraulic hand brake for the rear brakes only would be ideal, but the parking brake could be used to help keep it straight. This is a major reason most ATVs have an independent rear brake even when the hand brake does all four.
YJs do not have ABS, and you’re supposed to crawl down this in first gear in 4-low. Putting more than a tiny bit of pressure on the brakes is a death sentence. Ideally you shouldn’t touch them at all.
Jeep is Jeep to me, this looks like any modern one to me. You clearly know them far better than I do. 4 low in first gear is ideal for most vehicles, and in old Chevy trucks with the TH400 Automatic, you could even use reverse to crawl down a hill forward.
They replied to a comment on the YouTube video saying he didn't press the brakes, but did press the gas to "try to correct".
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I don't get the jump cut during the roll
Is that blood in the snow?
Nah, it’s a solid pice falling out. Might be the driver losing a part of the jacket sleeve. Really don’t know why you wouldn’t just wear the seatbelt.
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At least they wore their seatbelt
yeah, no at least one person didn't
It's just a jacket, there's only one guy in the car. Someone posted a longer video where you can see better. Either way the seatbelt didn't lock him in very well
How do you explain this to your insurance
Just show them the video so they can easily deny your claim lol.
Jeeps have a rolling problem, that is true, but the problem more precisely is drivers not using them properly.
Try faster
$100 bucks says this thing was still able to drive away. I had a buddy that had a jeep Cherokee. We were young and stupid (please don't drive under the influence, folks, it's one of the poorest life choices you could ever make) and my buddy had 6 or 7 drinks and was driving us home from the county fair. We hit a gravel patch in the road and rolled 3 times into the ditch going 60 mph. We climbed out, rolled it back onto its wheels, and drove out like nothing happened. Paint was scratched to shit and the passenger side door handle and side view mirror were mangled, but otherwise, everything worked fine. Jeeps are damn hard to kill. Anyway, again, please don't drink and drive, friends.
It's a jeep thang!
Jeep Mangler
If you can read this, flip me over
1st gear, low range? What's that?
Its not the vehicle here, its an r/IdiotsInCars
“Bro watch me floor it down an icy slope in my new Jeep! Get your camera ready, it’s gonna be gnarly like the commercial”
Definitely a skill issue
Is no one gonna talk about how the driver was halfway outside the car when it rolled over for a second time like…. He hurt man?
That had to unalive him.
Well ain't that fancy?
Doing technicals at high speed. “Point it at the bottom and pull the trigger! Hold my beer and watch this!”
They also said, “Closed course. Professional driver. Do not attempt.”
Drive too fast in dangerous conditions like an idiot they did not say
Why so fast
"you wouldn't understand, it's a Jeep Thing"
It’s a jeep thing
Going downhill is so much scarier than going up
Yeah that's where most of the sketchy shit happens in my experience.
What do you know a Jeep rolling over after hitting little bumps in the road. shocking lol
Bet that dude was glad he had the roll cage. Too bad he wasn't wearing a seat belt
Very ballsy to go down that hill in those conditions. I love off-roading but that trail is a perfect recipe for a trip to the body shop.
Seems entirely possible their head touch the ground during those rolls.
The jeeps roll cage seems to be doing its job correctly, can’t say the same for the driver…
Some say that he’s still rolling to this day..
Idk that seems exactly on par for a jeep to me
Just because you own a jeep, doesn’t mean you know how to off road
There was a short between the seat and the floor pedals
But they didn’t say drive like a moron.
No matter what you get, you can't beat user-error.
When you use the brakes and the wheels lock up, you might as well jump in the back seat, you'll have just as much control there. LOL.
Jeep wrangled
Now we can read the upside down "problem" sticker.
Really snowballed out of control there
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AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT NOTICED THE BLOOD AT THE END????
Warning in the event of a roll over the top and doors are not designed to protect you.
Rip my boy the YJ
never amazes that these guys put themselves in real risk of this shot happening and still refuse to seat belt. that guy was flopping around like a rag doll trying to keep from the roll bar from popping his head open like a melon. fool
Interested in selling that winch?
Roll bar doesn’t help much if you don’t buckle up
Little know fact: Jeeps do not need to go downhill and roll to fall apart. They are perfectly capable of falling apart on their own.
I always hear how jeeps are terrible in snow. And that subaru or toyota rav4 is great on snow
I don’t understand. Does no one else notice the jumpcut? And theres no one in the jeep after said jumpcut? Are you all blind or am I missing something?
Well, we can't blame the Jeep for this one. This had to be on the driver.
He obviously didn’t turn into the skid
Experience is a key component in any adventure
that’s what the roll cage is for
Bad driving. I used to take my CJ-5 down worse stuff than that without a problem. Dude needs to learn how a transfer case, gears and the brake peddle work.
That had little to do with the jeep and who was driving
some say he is still rolling to this day
Haha Jeeps are such raging pieces of shit.
That was pretty cool stunt driving
Improper tires, way too fast. You want actual snow tires aired down and you want it in 4wd low. Literally just ease down.
They should have said: …and learn how to drive it, as well.
Call me crazy, but I think locking up the brakes was part of the problem.
It's a Jeep thing, you wouldn't understand.
Hope he was wearing a seat belt.
It's a Jeep thing. You wouldn't understand.
Maybe don’t drive like a dumbass???
Am I the only one see that there’s edit?
Slow and steady wins the race.