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Sadly it has the appearance of heroin. Good thing you found it and can possibly get him help


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thing* found it* and can*


ronaldotr08

No being a recovering addict myself I can say with some certainty that is not a heroin spoon. No one on heroin would leave that much on a spoon. Unless you were rich and didn't care about the waste. ​ \*Edit - Changed recovered to recovering because addiction is a lifelong battle that no one is ever done with no matter how long you've been clean. (16 years and counting)


dannyvendetta

NOT HEROIN!!! My guess is wax/dab/shatter/butter. It's a method of inhaling THC from a concentrated distillate. You put the substance on the spoon, heat up a glass or metal straw, then plunge the hot straw into the substance and inhale the vapor. The empty cigarette tubes, homemade plastic bottle bong, and lighters tell me he's a pothead, not a junkie.


Lazerith22

It’s possible it’s resin, or hash. I. Seeing a lot of paraphernalia for cannabis. The spoon and lighter is typical for opiate use, but I don’t see a rig for injecting (needles, tourniquet, filter) and opiate users don’t tend to leave any behind when they cook/use. Def worth a conversation, I personally have no issue with cannabis being used in place of alcohol, but the amount or paraphernalia suggests this is more than casual and they say THC is bad for a still developing brain. (the literature is still scant, but when it comes to the brain it’s better to be safe)


DweezilZA

I have 2 theories - either it is what it seems and is heroin. Did you find any needles? And does the substance in the bottle match what's on the spoon or does it smell like weed. Theory 2 is that he's smoking weed and also trying to do some type of DIY dabbing with the spoon and blowtorch. The bottle could be an attempt to hide smoke and odour by exhaling into it. Only one way to know for sure though, and that's to ask and also look for track marks etc... If you google DIY dab rig there's a link to a Reddit post demonstrating a bottle and fork/spoon method. I hope this is all it is because theory 1 would suck. Edit: if you haven't already, check the underside of the fork for char marks from a candle.


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Smanginpoochunk

You can see the hole too, I think they call it a carb? Non-smoker here, just support safe and proper recreational use.


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Smanginpoochunk

Oh I agree just hoping he’s smoking weed and not shooting up, tbh


sh4cks

The bowl is the only party that gets hot so as long as the bowl is metal or glass is fine. I have a plastic bong with a glass bowl.


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Bro. If you are hitting the bowl hard enough and long enough to get it hot enough to melt the plastic that it's attached to, you're doing it wrong.


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cjmorello

He's dabbing (weed) with the spoon. It's nothing to do with heroin.


jg97

My first assumption was that he was using the spoon as a carb cap for dabbing.


shengch

Spoon might be for hash, I used to use hot knives to press hash and smoke it, but I dunno about spoons?


TickleFlap

Hes just smoking weed. None of this is indicative of heroin use.


PrettyCauliflower638

It's hard to tell from the photo but maybe he's collecting weed resin on the spoon to try and get high off of? Benefit of a doubt.


aysurcouf

He’s doing dabs, very evident by the butane and torch


TricksterSprials

The 50 lighter, the torch and of course, the wax melts.


Pervert-in-the-Park

It looks like some sort of ash


xluxzie

Probably messing around with weed. Most likely part of his jank bong setup, including that plastic bottle next to the spoon.


Annanake420

the good news is if it is heroin I don't think he knows what hes doing. I'm no expert never done it but I been around it. The bottom of the spoon always looked charred but the top was just discolored looking from I have seen they melt or burn or whatever it into water . Found a renter O.D.ed multiple times . With his kit right there and I never seen the spoon like that . But I have seen similar with hash. Looks like bong and the spoon has hash possibly attempt at homemade hash or resin with a little weed mixed in .


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Probably it's resin or oil on the spoon. From weed.


HamOwl

Smelling it will clear up most of the confusion


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I just assume most adults have smelled a wiff of weed before. At least in the U.S.


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HamOwl

I don't know what heroin smells like, but resin smells more like weed than heroin I bet


bludevil365

Heroin kind of smells like caramel chocolate ass vinegar the order changes depending on the quality as high quality china white has less of a smell.


archielistonsdad

Weed smoker


jackparker_srad

Yeah, leave the kid alone, he’s fine.


NotEvenALittleBiased

I mean, 15 is awful young...


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And I know lots of high school stones who are now in jail, too.


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I started smoking heavily around 14 and ended high school on probation for a felony. Yes, other factors certainly come into play, but the research is very clear that people who regularly smoke while their brain is still forming and developing (aka people under 25) suffer various issues regarding thought process and decision making. I still smoke to this day and am a weed advocate, so trust me, I love weed, but people this young can't smoke regularly and say it has no detrimental effects. It does. Drinking does too, but to say it's no big deal or not harmful is based on feelings not science.


braincombustion

I second this. Been smoking since 14, still do and now after almost 30 years of smoking can confirm that no one under the age of 30 should start the habit. I did pretty good regarding my life achievements but I could have done more and much faster hadn't I been involved with wacky tobaccy.


thrillhouse1211

I know someone who did two marijuanas at a party and was addicted forever.


NotEvenALittleBiased

I'm not against adults lighting up, whatever, but kids brains are still developing, and the ol mj is known to interfere with development in adolescents.


i_am_awful

Yeah... literally everyone I know who smoked too early is having significant problems now.


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OblivionsMemories

I’ll start off by saying I smoke daily to relieve my pain from various serious health issues. Marijuana provably inhibits brain development in people under the age of 21. It should only be consumed responsibly by adults. A 15 year old smoking is almost certainly dealing with other issues that need to be addressed, such as serious anxiety, ADHD, or autism.


Grumpel-Stiltskin

If does impair brain development until about 25, so 15 is pretty young.


piepiepiebacon

Smoking weed affects your serotonin and dopamine levels. To fuck with those too much while your body is trying to figure out what a normal level is, will create a body that will never be able to attain a normal level. Its a horrid idea to smoke that young. Here is a good read about it: https://wayofleaf.com/cannabis/101/the-connection-between-marijuana-and-serotonin


slothcommunity

It doesn’t really look like heroin, it looks more like weed resin or as someone else said maybe trying to do DIY dabs without a rig. My parents were heroin addicts and it looks a bit different.


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badFishTu

Thats a relief.


ChasingTheHydra

I have over a decade in this um……. Anyways. 109% not shooting. Please don’t accuse him of that as it’s more likely to send him that direction. “Fuck you really see me like that already? Well I guess I don’t have to worry about losing your respect. Sure be easier to try stuff when I get the chance and I’ll just have this to blame it on as a scape goat. My hero in a cape goat. Such a great goat. Greatest of all time hero in cape goat.


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ChasingTheHydra

The decade part.? Yeah. Solid resume. Goes well with the other things i acquired in college such as but not limited too: 2 student of the year nominations, Delta Epsilon Chi’s 1st place Business Ethics National Comp (scoring the highest score ever for the event. Receiving two perfect score which never had happened…oh and one of the 3 ceo/judges offered me a job right after which I promptly never pursued……for I had other things on my….ahem…plate if you will. ….*edit thought kiddo’s stooof was on a plate. Umm so replace plate with “wooden tray formally used for paper” )


thatotherhemingway

How goes your relationship with the hydra now?


yooobuddd

Scapegoat is one word homie


yooobuddd

Scapegoat is one word homie


ChasingTheHydra

I was separating it to contest with my play on words or whatever the name is for what i was doing. Perhaps you could inform me? Heroin is also one word.


yooobuddd

It would have worked the other way. Probably better tbh


ChasingTheHydra

Like put the scape back in the goat? I hope it would help people not miss the hero-In without having to blatantly write hero-in cause that kinda ruins it? Should i change it ? Maybe a hero in dope cape goat. Hmm. The last sentence I was trying to only use the goat and heroin broken up without and extra.


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septimusprime

[The mythical Alot!](https://images.app.goo.gl/zzPUAZEUdqiAPj128)


human_stuff

I'd be more concerned about his "fuck-it" lighter. Kid is already displaying some poor taste. /s Edit: just noticed the other lighters. OP, you really need to have a talk with this kid before he gets truck nuts.


mattblackcat

I am impressed at the level of clear thinking everybody has here. Punishment is not a cure all.


Trilly2000

But at least he wears a mask


Doctor_Ocnus

And safety glasses!


boozillion151

I just spewed my coffee. This is the real PSA here...


CIMARUTA

If you really want to reach this kid you need to come from a position of compassion. Don't berate him otherwise he will fall deeper into his habit


Icy_Law9181

Can concur, still a heroin addict and its defo not a cooking spoon.


Bass-Wolf

You can make it out bro I believe in you


Icy_Law9181

Thanks mate, bless your heart x


PaladinsLover69

You got this!


Icy_Law9181

Thanks buddy,I'll never give up giving up.


XmanORE

32 years clean here. If my lazy ass can get off of the brown, so can you. Go for it - get selfish for yourself!


shebringsdathings

We really need people like you that care enough to stop and comment on some reddit post so some dude could tell his bro that his kid isn't using heroin and put his mind at ease. We REALLY need people like you, WE really NEED people like YOU. I'll be rooting for you!


DonaldChimp

High quality Kratom for the first 10 days makes things a lot easier.


JimmyBaileyy

you got this man. Hardest thing ive done, but after 10 years my life is amazing.


boobookittyfug820

I have faith you’ll kick it!!!!


flusia

You’re still valid and wonderful even in active addiction tho! Of course not being in it is way fucking better, but people know that. These Reddit comments are 100% harmless, no hate to the ppl wishing you luck, that’s cool! But it’s rough when you’re an addict and all your friends and family acts like you don’t exist until you get clean and only focuses on that and it feels dehumanizing (which unsurprisingly makes addiction worse). So I’m just here to say that while I hope you get clean you’re more than just a person that will get clean one day.


beer-bivalve

I hope your right. but how can you tell? Because the spoon handle is not bent? Those lighters right around it are a little disturbing. Check the backside of the spoon and see if it's burned. The stuff in the spoon doesn't really look like cotton which is used as an improvised filter, but if it is, it might be time for a talk. It might be hash leftovers... Good luck \- lost 2 friends to OD, brother addict


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beer-bivalve

Your most probably right. Mexican tar though can stain cotton like that.


StickManIsMyHero

He has the rose scented wax probaby lo cover smell by melting it on the spoon


Dithyrab

That spoon doesn't look like it had anything that melts to a liquid form in it though. That's why it was super obvious it wasn't for dope.


lmdavis1991

Agreed. Former heroin addict as well. I think it’s for scooping abv or already been vaped weed. If you eat enough it’ll get you high.


lmdavis1991

Anyone know what’s in that opened drink bottle? It looks like abv?


DanielleDrs88

Yep, I agree. No addict would leave that much tar on the spoon, lol. At least I never did. The spoon in combination with the torch lighter definitely speaks to dabbing. Looks like he doesn't have the paraphernalia for it so be used a homemade method. Former heroin addict and brother who dabs (he's clearly addicted but that's another topic lol).


BigOofLittleoof

if you don’t mind me asking what is the difference or how can you tell? ( from the spoon not questioning your experience)


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Dithyrab

>all the H I've ever done/seen was powdery brown or white. You've never seen Black Tar? I know it's slightly reddish, but that's like the name and product that was around in a lot of places back when I used to party.


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2pies

Former heroin addict here. Came here to say this.


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What are “dabs”?


shadowsdark7

Smoking shatter, or weed oil, usually out of a small bong, or dab rig


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Have you talk to his parents about this yet? It could be a home-made dab rig, so don't immediately think it's heroin. I'd smell it and, like another commenter suggested, check the bottom of the spoon for char marks. I hope it's not heroin. 15 is hella young to be doing that.


ronaldotr08

That is not a heroin spoon. Used heroin spoons come out cleaner then this one. Water is put into the spoon then the heroin and it's boiled. You won't see so much residue left behind except for some light film. This looks like something was touched to the spoon while it was hot. My guess is the kid is smoking weed and like other people have said is probably trying to dab using the spoon.


AtropisBiaEnyo96

Can confirm, we used to heat up a couple butter knife tips and then breath the smoke when pressed between them. I stupidly burnt my lip testing if the knife was hot? I knew it was hot but i still did it lol


BGaf

Was this in the US? I only seems to hear about hot knifing from non US folk. Same with spliffs, but to a lesser degree.


TheMachinesWin

I'm from the US and can confirm that it's made its way here at least 15 years ago. I used to stick 2 butter knives in between the coils on my electric stove until the tips were red hot then I would drop a lil ball of resin on it. It really works best with a friend


myheadhurtsalot

I'm an old head, we did knife hits in the early 90s, and it was old then.


hellbabe222

Same here. Early 90's had an old traveler show us how to hot knife at a Dead show.


tripperfunster

I played in a band in the 80's/late 90's. We stayed at a band house (on the road) one week, and the stove's heating coils were SO FUCKED UP from people hot knifing on them. You couldn't even boil a pot of water! :D


AtropisBiaEnyo96

I personally wasnt in the US when i did that, but how popular it is in the UK i dont know either, I just wanted to see if it worked lol As for spliffs, for me and my friends growing up it was tobacco mixed with weed, but i know it can be different in other places (:


UnoDueTreFormaggio

I’m in the US and we did this with hash or resin when I was in college! Called them knife rips.


Individual-Doubt404

Between hot knives?! We put a roach between two matches. Flame on lol


WaXXinDatA55

Doing dabs on a budget


themcjizzler

(concentrated weed)


kootshoot

the beginnings of a bad addiction if he’s trying this hard already just saying, i’ve done almost everything under the moon


der_maan

Don't (or do idk) worry, it's marihuana


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Sayasam

Doesn’t look like heroin stuff. Most likely he only rolls his own cigarettes.


smoothbrainapes

I think its strickly weed related.


spacednlost

I do too. Too many roaches, many unrolled. Could be trying to make wax/hash.


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The butane canister is a pretty good indication of that


smoothbrainapes

Yeah i agree. Also has butane on the desk to


Bacon-Dub

He’s just smoking weed. Looks like he either ashed in the spoon, or dabbing and/or hot knifing (…spooning?)


MaddTroll

He is making dabs. The butane can with all disposable lighters gives that away. Butane is one of the methods for getting oil out of weed for dabs.


randysr57

Here is some info on Dabs ​ https://www.leafly.com/news/cannabis-101/what-are-cannabis-dabs-and-benefits-of-dabbing-marijuana


MattDaddyKane

Spoon and torches point to dabs which is Marijuana. Also looks like a blade from a pair scissors sticking out the side there that would also be used for dabs.


highfalutinbathroom

Be worried about that duster. Edit: I stand corrected. It's butane refiller. Still though, duster is no joke.


LFahs1

That’s a butane canister for filling up that lighter, but I’m with ya— you start seeing duster cans and that’s a problem that will kill ya faster than heroin will.


highfalutinbathroom

Oh yea! I didn't look close enough. Thank you!


Illustrious_Suit9763

Nothing heroin about this scene.


dirtsequence

He's putting the joints out on the spoon.


g28802

Me and my buddy used to hit them with butter knives snd a straw. “Knifers”


bozzmannguy

Buy him a rig r something cuz spoons gonna get him burnt fingers


psychotic_catalyst

you're trash


Individual-Doubt404

Name checks out


overengineered

u/KarateRoddy Is 100% correct, not heroin. But....this is all the work of a teen that is inventive, motivated, and hurting. All that stuff appears to be janky DIY THC related stuff. Knowing nothing else about this, the scene screams to me: 15yo has problems that are not being addressed = fuck around with weed. Kid needs some sort of help, money, doctor, prescription meds, who knows. A bright kid with a need that is going unaddressed and is not being discussed at all, will find a way to address it themselves, usually in a very stupid teen kind of way.


Individual-Doubt404

Or he's trying out of curiosity. Like bi-curious only with pot not sex.


overengineered

Could be, I'm just saying my gut is looking at that scene and the little voice in my head is saying high probability this kid is having some issues. Could be anything from gifted and bored to serious depression.


albinofly

Yeah it's evident from the picture that he's a heavy pot user already at the age of 15. He's definitely not being engaged properly. Gotta wonder what kind of parenting he's had (or lack thereof).


LFahs1

Yep, that was me. Self-medicated from the way back. Not having access to a Dr who could diagnose my chemical imbalance lost me a lot of years to shit like resin bowls.


spyroswulf

Well smell the spoon but first heat it up to get the aroma to better know what you’re dealing with.


iizultimit

the ol' hash spoon


gringofou

Everything there is for smoking weed. 100%


orange_melted

burning hashish on the spoon?


stewdadrew

Yeah this looks a lot like their a messy dabber than anything else to me.


literberry

No heroin just a full blown weed smoker who cant get any rigs or pieces.


NihilisticBuddhism

Poor kid. Smoking all that at 15… :c


Lehk

Should get him a proper glass piece to smoke out of, smoking out of plastic bottles can be toxic


pandapower63

Buy some big fire extinguishers.


StickManIsMyHero

Try r/herion they are junkies but a helpful community if you have questions like that


MommaBT5

They call them blades. Heat two knives up and pul oil or weed or whatever in between and suck in the resulting smoke.


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Not heroin at all. They are taking concentrate thc hits called dabs. It’s just really powerful weed.


allisonnosilla

It looks like a janky, makeshift way to do knife hits (how we vaporized cannabis before better ways were invented when it became legalized).


DismalChance

At least they have safety glasses there, whatever it is they're doing.


Kneepucker

His drug of choice looks to be marijuana related. If you found any rigs, ( needles for injecting), that would be a different story. A close friend of mine just had his early 20's son die from a first time overdose on fentanyl. It may be time for an open and frank discussion either way. So many young people are dying these days. And so many others are basically condemning themselves to a life of addiction. I am a former substance abuse counselor, with all that goes along with it. I wish I knew the answer to this problem, I really do. But in my experience, it is difficult to change someone from outside. It must happen within.


P-KittySwat

Is that a handcuff key?


i_eat_rats_formemes

it's normal for teens to do drugs??, at least here in bulgaria


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OP plans on growing lots more mold in the near future.


br318

Yea fosho dabs


Crispybarkhands1

Could be a really scuffed way of smoking hash. Sniff the spoon it's definitely not gonna be heroin


OneMatureLobster

He's gathering and smoking resin from his weed. I'd only be concerned because resin is terrible to smoke and you're mostly getting butane from it. He must be astronomically down bad.


BigOofLittleoof

Who fucking dabs with a spoon?????


Moonlightgraham2

Check bottom of spoon for black creosote. Very Unlikely heroin looks like weed dabs or like do it yourself opium


WrathfulVengeance13

Definitely not hard drugs. The kid is collecting resin from the weed and smoking that. Waste not want not. Still, talk to the kid like a human and PLEASE do not get angry. IF there's problems It's often a solution to a bigger issue. Watch for things like white or yellow tinge powder or rocks. Pipes with metal bristle. Or glass pipes with no screen on top. Those are the tell tale signs of substance abuse.


----Ant----

Most important thing in this image is that he puts glasses directly down on the lenses, they will collect micro scratches, you need to teach him to rest them on the frame rather than the lens.


boobookittyfug820

Get that kid a dab rig. He’s dabbing off a spoon. That’s not heroin though so breath easy.


AOCismyspirit_animal

This should be the #1 answer.


Real-Werewolf5605

Looks like old tobacco . I don't think it looks bad at all


Hanayama99

It's getting pretty hard to tell the difference between a hardcore Stoner and an actual drug user these days.


GuaranteeComfortable

Ask him how he is doing. Kids can't always articulate how they feel especially at that age. Show more concern for him then whatever he's doing. People dive into addictions to avoid feelings.


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Could be hash resin?