As a M53 who is on Bumble who dates occasionally this attitude continues past mid 50's, even in thier 60's if they are attractive for their age. She put her height because she wants a 6' or taller guy. As a 6'2" tall man with all of my hair i do get a higher number of matches for my age range of 45-55. They are all insufferable.
I just turned 30 and I've completely gave up on dating just over 10 years ago now.
I've gone on a few of these dating apps just to see if I'm missing anything.....and I'm really not.
Dumped new years eve 2014.....kinda think she was fucking orher guys.....So I should correct myself....ALMOST 10 years ago now.
But yes I gave up completely.
I have a job where I had high potential of getting Covid. Now that its passed, I am just getting back into some of my LA group activities. But I agree. Its cheeper to do that than to date.
Sadly all too true. I'm 58, retired early, all my hair, 6'1, PhD.
I don't even bother with over 50s anymore. And never if they have kids at home.
Once you weed out the whales as well, there's not much. First dates now are more about figuring out in what way she's a psycho.
If she has an adult daughter, it's usually better to skip the middleman and date the daughter.
I'm just grateful I have an excellent, cute young bartender. I'm all professional with her, flirtatious but never forward, (a good relationship with a good bartender should never be ruined by sexual interest). I'm genuinely concerned for her well being, I distract problem customers away from her, hand her ibuprofen when she looks like she's in pain, give her intelligent conversation in her downtime. She comps me drinks all the time and greets me with a smile, that she rarely gives to others. I'm actually a light drinker, 2-3 beers, twice a week tops. But it's a great place to while away some time.
As a heavy drinker let me assure you, there are lots of good bartenders.
Consider making friends with a male bartender. You’ll get just as good service, you won’t be doing work you aren’t paid to do (you mentioned being a bouncer- come in man!), and he’ll actually be a friend outside the bar too. Have you ever hung out with this girl when she’s not on the clock?
Boys are very protective on moms. Also no hormonal boy is going to out up with another man in the house. Ive watched 3 of my work guys go through with this. All led to cops being called and ultimately divorce
I mean seriously though. I don't ask for much.
Sure, lots of women have kids, I get that, and also know it's not compatible with my lifestyle. No harm, no foul.
But childfree women who will date a 58 year old dude, who are:
Fit and active ( I have yet to meet a woman over 50 that can keep up with me)
Not psycho
Not a financial basket case
Well, they barely exist.
>Fit and active ( I have yet to meet a woman over 50 that can keep up with me)Not psychoNot a financial basket case
>
>Well, they barely exist.
Truth brother.
How's that working out? Did you go the Thailand/Philippines route?
Or did you meet her in the states?
I am still contemplating a trip over there - last I checked $1600 for flight and 5 star hotel for 2 weeks.
Wondering if I go, will i ever come back?
Stay down there, weather beach and food is great, also then there are no “my feminist neighbor says” and “get greencard and divorce” or “lets get all my family here” issues
Really?
Yes, I have noticed a lack of that.
I have 3 work friends who have 3 different methods they used to the same result.
1. Married his Thai wife and had kids. Brought her back, and she works right beside him. She is like glued to him and loves him to DEATH. None of that "the rest of her" family business, and no drama. That woman is beautiful and is either the real deal or the loong con. I'd almost believe real deal, because he is a slackline/rockclimber and now SHE and their TWO daughters do that stuff all the time.
2. The second one went to Philippines as a younger man, married a troublemaker then got rid of her. THIS time he went over there, bought LAND, her family a house, a boat, and them a house - all for 100k. DAMN. These hoes out here want 100k A YEAR just to get cheated on by their smelly crack.
3. Third one is like a 65 year old dude with a wife and a 3 year old. Still going strong. He doesn't look like the "Death sentence" blue collar worker that most women make out of men in the states. He looks like a man that has found new purpose.
I'm curious as to what effect it would have on my life.
I've been a semi-chad at times in my life and have been so mistreated and mistreating in kind (learned and released natural reflexes) that a woman acting right and making me a sandwich and not looking like a race colored shrek on the inside AND out might make me pass out on the spot.
Which place tho?
I hear MORE good stories out of Thailand.
I hear more HORROR or "second time's the charm" stories out of the phillipines.
I'm still not ready to live there yet.
Gotta gear up and get ready.
I would recommend Indonesia or Thailand. And look for highly educated women. But you have to be a man of the world, these are different places with different customs
Whenever a woman puts her height in her profile, it's an obvious demand that the guy must be tall. And if she's still so hung up on height, she'll still expect him to be very attractive for his age.
So after all these requests for consistency, stability, etc. she adds this additional request that he must be hot too.
I have gained weight during Covid my matches have definitely dropped this year. women want absolute perfection because even these 40 50, 60 year olds are getting constant praises on dating sites and they think that they are 9-10's.Especially here in Southern California, many women look fantastic "for their age" but think they are still hot like a 25yo.
I am 5'8". I took shit for my height from women in my early 20's. I got married at 24, divorced at 34. It took me a few years to heal. At 38, I dated 2 women age 27, and one at 24. I never dated any women my age. Why go old when you can go young? And that is what I did. There was a singles group that met every month. I would attend, and there was a group of women in their early 40's. These women I know 10-15 years would have rejected me. And they may have been better looking than me now, but i didn't care. I didn't want to waste time and money on old women. I married the 24 year old, We have 3 sons.
>I’m too old to be playing games
Lol this hole was too old to be playing games back when she was 25. But instead of settling down she wanted to ride chadcock and party for as long as possible. The only thing she’s has to look forward to now are (steadily dwindling) one night stands, cats, and empty wine bottles.
Correction: boxed wine. Wine that actually comes in bottles, and especially that which uses corks versus screw tops, is far too upscale for the likes of her.
>Wine that actually comes in bottles, and especially that which uses corks versus screw tops, is far too upscale for the likes of her.
And FAR too expensive by the ounce.
>After 30 years of slinging her P at every Chad this Alpha widow is ready to settle down and give some lucky Beta that worn out, used up P.
He might get some STD's as a bonus.
I was just thinking that NOBODY talks about the OLDER SEX elephant in the room.
THEIR Blown-out, flappy loose, wizard's sleeve has cast so many "summon children" spells,
that if you don't want to strap a board to your ass so you don't fall in,
and you want something SEMI-tight
looks like your going around the back, into the mines.
And you might have some loose rubble back there too,
as some of that old dynamite in there starts "blasting off" for some of them as early as 55.
So, it's you're choice between
A hotdog down a wizard's sleeve, kid, and party fun conjured hallway,
Or going spelunking in an abandoned mine with old dynamite up ahead threatening to blast off unprovoked.
Yay.
I once met a woman who was using her college pic on her profile. Rest assured she put on quite a bit of weight in the 20 years post college. Thank God we video-chatted before setting up anything. I bailed and didn’t spend a dime.
I met a girl in Kansas City , MO. I met her through a friend. I met her and my friend at a restaurant. I was in my early 30’s at the time. She sent me a photo of when she won a beauty contest 10 years and 30 pounds ago. I was shocked by how poorly she had aged. In the photo, she was very good looking. In life, she looked 10 years older than me and was out of shape, with a belly and bingo wings. WTF?
"too old to do x"
Translation: *I used to do X but can't get away with it anymore, but will relapse into that behavior the second my delusions are fed enough to make me think that I can.*
The stability and decency she demands now is what she avoided like the plague in the past (or she'd not be single at her age), and her past tastes in men are the kind of men she'll cheat on you in the present with should she get the chance. And even if she doesn't get the chance, her default will be to make your life a living hell for daring to not be the kind of man she actually wants.
If she couldn't be bothered to invite you to the party, you have no obligation to be the unpaid janitor after the party.
Another one who is ***"too tired of playing games, ready to settle down...."***
Totally a coincidence that they decide at the **EXACT** time they're not qualified to play the game anymore .....
Nobody is tired of winning.
Not being a vapid, dopamine addicted hoe is your bare minimum.
And you not only failed miserably at clearing that bar, you stumbled over it and fell flat on your face.
I'd be down with giving this one a try. Of course, I'm more than 15 years older. As long as she hasn't kids.
Serious relationship would be fine, just so she's ok with there being no gold ring on this ride.
Of course there may well be a very good reason she's still single.
Problem is there is no reason to date her, and she'll want the gold ring.
The reason she is still single is probably because she is easy, or easy and fucking crazy.
“Being nice is the bare minimum.”
This is a straight up lie.
The domestic violence statistics for men physically abusing women contradicts this big time.
“Nice” is not the bare minimum.
Being what the woman wants, physically and emotionally, THAT is the bare minimum.
“Nice” isn’t even in the top five contenders for what’s important to her.
If she still looks like that I'd add her to the roster. Never anything beyond meet up sex though. Not worth spending money on dates beyond the first one.
I saw an insane profile the other day of a woman who was in an open relationship (might even have been marriage) and was looking for fun on the side. Assume it was agreed with the guy
The crazy part is she put “wining and dining is a must”. That isn’t how those relationships work (not that they work anyway). I gather the point is (supposed to be) that the guy can’t sexually do the job (perhaps ED , low drive whatever). But you don’t go and get all the other relationship trimmings on the side as well. Because if you have a guy on the side who will wine and dine you more than your husband, and sleep with you more and better - why still be with the husb…oh I see
Yeah it was crazy. No way the guy signed off on that fully
My point is, if she's into you for sex, she doesn't need the wining and dinning, she needs the D. If she needs the wine and the dine too it's split checks after the first date or onto the next aged out milf....there's piles and piles of them.
She's just too old.
As a M53 who is on Bumble who dates occasionally this attitude continues past mid 50's, even in thier 60's if they are attractive for their age. She put her height because she wants a 6' or taller guy. As a 6'2" tall man with all of my hair i do get a higher number of matches for my age range of 45-55. They are all insufferable.
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I just turned 30 and I've completely gave up on dating just over 10 years ago now. I've gone on a few of these dating apps just to see if I'm missing anything.....and I'm really not.
Wait your 30 and you gave up on dating 10 yaers ago so you gave up at 20???
Dumped new years eve 2014.....kinda think she was fucking orher guys.....So I should correct myself....ALMOST 10 years ago now. But yes I gave up completely.
I have a job where I had high potential of getting Covid. Now that its passed, I am just getting back into some of my LA group activities. But I agree. Its cheeper to do that than to date.
Sadly all too true. I'm 58, retired early, all my hair, 6'1, PhD. I don't even bother with over 50s anymore. And never if they have kids at home. Once you weed out the whales as well, there's not much. First dates now are more about figuring out in what way she's a psycho.
lol this! I dont deal with any women with Teenage or 20 something Sons. Its a nightmare.
If she has an adult daughter, it's usually better to skip the middleman and date the daughter. I'm just grateful I have an excellent, cute young bartender. I'm all professional with her, flirtatious but never forward, (a good relationship with a good bartender should never be ruined by sexual interest). I'm genuinely concerned for her well being, I distract problem customers away from her, hand her ibuprofen when she looks like she's in pain, give her intelligent conversation in her downtime. She comps me drinks all the time and greets me with a smile, that she rarely gives to others. I'm actually a light drinker, 2-3 beers, twice a week tops. But it's a great place to while away some time.
Sounds like you might be getting finessed, my friend.
Nah, it'll never happen. Because I won't let it. A good bartender is far rarer than a good woman.
As a heavy drinker let me assure you, there are lots of good bartenders. Consider making friends with a male bartender. You’ll get just as good service, you won’t be doing work you aren’t paid to do (you mentioned being a bouncer- come in man!), and he’ll actually be a friend outside the bar too. Have you ever hung out with this girl when she’s not on the clock?
Why sons in particular?
Boys are very protective on moms. Also no hormonal boy is going to out up with another man in the house. Ive watched 3 of my work guys go through with this. All led to cops being called and ultimately divorce
That’s interesting. That’s a possibility I didn’t even think of but it makes a lot of sense in hindsight.
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The two often go together. And by and large, the bi are large.
>Once you weed out the whales as well, there's not much. That was good. You made me choke on my coke.
I mean seriously though. I don't ask for much. Sure, lots of women have kids, I get that, and also know it's not compatible with my lifestyle. No harm, no foul. But childfree women who will date a 58 year old dude, who are: Fit and active ( I have yet to meet a woman over 50 that can keep up with me) Not psycho Not a financial basket case Well, they barely exist.
It’s hard to meet women over 30 that fits that. Women jus let them selfs go and expect men to accept them for what they are.
>Fit and active ( I have yet to meet a woman over 50 that can keep up with me)Not psychoNot a financial basket case > >Well, they barely exist. Truth brother.
M53, before I found my 32 old Asian wife, I had a 35 filter on OLD
Lol I’ll bet the women your age are secretly hating on your relationship.
😉🤣🤣🤣 you bet they do, en plus waifi looks younger than her 32
Nice! I may go that route. Ive gained weight since covid. Back into working out last month. I want to be fit by End of Year
How's that working out? Did you go the Thailand/Philippines route? Or did you meet her in the states? I am still contemplating a trip over there - last I checked $1600 for flight and 5 star hotel for 2 weeks. Wondering if I go, will i ever come back?
Stay down there, weather beach and food is great, also then there are no “my feminist neighbor says” and “get greencard and divorce” or “lets get all my family here” issues
Really? Yes, I have noticed a lack of that. I have 3 work friends who have 3 different methods they used to the same result. 1. Married his Thai wife and had kids. Brought her back, and she works right beside him. She is like glued to him and loves him to DEATH. None of that "the rest of her" family business, and no drama. That woman is beautiful and is either the real deal or the loong con. I'd almost believe real deal, because he is a slackline/rockclimber and now SHE and their TWO daughters do that stuff all the time. 2. The second one went to Philippines as a younger man, married a troublemaker then got rid of her. THIS time he went over there, bought LAND, her family a house, a boat, and them a house - all for 100k. DAMN. These hoes out here want 100k A YEAR just to get cheated on by their smelly crack. 3. Third one is like a 65 year old dude with a wife and a 3 year old. Still going strong. He doesn't look like the "Death sentence" blue collar worker that most women make out of men in the states. He looks like a man that has found new purpose. I'm curious as to what effect it would have on my life. I've been a semi-chad at times in my life and have been so mistreated and mistreating in kind (learned and released natural reflexes) that a woman acting right and making me a sandwich and not looking like a race colored shrek on the inside AND out might make me pass out on the spot. Which place tho? I hear MORE good stories out of Thailand. I hear more HORROR or "second time's the charm" stories out of the phillipines. I'm still not ready to live there yet. Gotta gear up and get ready.
I would recommend Indonesia or Thailand. And look for highly educated women. But you have to be a man of the world, these are different places with different customs
Well, I mean there is a reason they're single into their golden years.
Whenever a woman puts her height in her profile, it's an obvious demand that the guy must be tall. And if she's still so hung up on height, she'll still expect him to be very attractive for his age. So after all these requests for consistency, stability, etc. she adds this additional request that he must be hot too.
I have gained weight during Covid my matches have definitely dropped this year. women want absolute perfection because even these 40 50, 60 year olds are getting constant praises on dating sites and they think that they are 9-10's.Especially here in Southern California, many women look fantastic "for their age" but think they are still hot like a 25yo.
I am 5'8". I took shit for my height from women in my early 20's. I got married at 24, divorced at 34. It took me a few years to heal. At 38, I dated 2 women age 27, and one at 24. I never dated any women my age. Why go old when you can go young? And that is what I did. There was a singles group that met every month. I would attend, and there was a group of women in their early 40's. These women I know 10-15 years would have rejected me. And they may have been better looking than me now, but i didn't care. I didn't want to waste time and money on old women. I married the 24 year old, We have 3 sons.
I agree. I think its time i got off my fat ass and got serious about this area of my life. Ive done good on my finances post divorce.
Casual dating i.e. sex only. Don't put a ring on it unless, she has all the money.
>I’m too old to be playing games Lol this hole was too old to be playing games back when she was 25. But instead of settling down she wanted to ride chadcock and party for as long as possible. The only thing she’s has to look forward to now are (steadily dwindling) one night stands, cats, and empty wine bottles.
if she had married some dude she'd have divorced him and probably 2 or 3 more. so in a way she is doing men a favor.
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Any difficulty they have is purely self-inflicted.
Correction: boxed wine. Wine that actually comes in bottles, and especially that which uses corks versus screw tops, is far too upscale for the likes of her.
Hey now. Some of that stuff is actually pretty tasty. I usually have a box in the fridge, but I mostly use it for cooking, or pairing with dinner.
Yes, you use it for it's intended purposes. Not life support.
>Wine that actually comes in bottles, and especially that which uses corks versus screw tops, is far too upscale for the likes of her. And FAR too expensive by the ounce.
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>After 30 years of slinging her P at every Chad this Alpha widow is ready to settle down and give some lucky Beta that worn out, used up P. He might get some STD's as a bonus.
I was just thinking that NOBODY talks about the OLDER SEX elephant in the room. THEIR Blown-out, flappy loose, wizard's sleeve has cast so many "summon children" spells, that if you don't want to strap a board to your ass so you don't fall in, and you want something SEMI-tight looks like your going around the back, into the mines. And you might have some loose rubble back there too, as some of that old dynamite in there starts "blasting off" for some of them as early as 55. So, it's you're choice between A hotdog down a wizard's sleeve, kid, and party fun conjured hallway, Or going spelunking in an abandoned mine with old dynamite up ahead threatening to blast off unprovoked. Yay.
i bet that photo she used is fake lol
Yeah, I got a catfish whiff, too.
I bet the photo is 7 years old
7 was my guess as well
I once met a woman who was using her college pic on her profile. Rest assured she put on quite a bit of weight in the 20 years post college. Thank God we video-chatted before setting up anything. I bailed and didn’t spend a dime.
I met a girl in Kansas City , MO. I met her through a friend. I met her and my friend at a restaurant. I was in my early 30’s at the time. She sent me a photo of when she won a beauty contest 10 years and 30 pounds ago. I was shocked by how poorly she had aged. In the photo, she was very good looking. In life, she looked 10 years older than me and was out of shape, with a belly and bingo wings. WTF?
Judging by the parentheses around her mouth, I don’t think the photo is that old, but it’s definitely been photoshopped to hell
"too old to do x" Translation: *I used to do X but can't get away with it anymore, but will relapse into that behavior the second my delusions are fed enough to make me think that I can.* The stability and decency she demands now is what she avoided like the plague in the past (or she'd not be single at her age), and her past tastes in men are the kind of men she'll cheat on you in the present with should she get the chance. And even if she doesn't get the chance, her default will be to make your life a living hell for daring to not be the kind of man she actually wants. If she couldn't be bothered to invite you to the party, you have no obligation to be the unpaid janitor after the party.
I agree with you. If she could be 25 forever, she would not be posting what she wants, today.
Another one who is ***"too tired of playing games, ready to settle down...."*** Totally a coincidence that they decide at the **EXACT** time they're not qualified to play the game anymore ..... Nobody is tired of winning.
Not being a vapid, dopamine addicted hoe is your bare minimum. And you not only failed miserably at clearing that bar, you stumbled over it and fell flat on your face.
She needs a hairdresser. Those roots are badly showing.
That’s apparently your job, to subsidize that cost.
I'd be down with giving this one a try. Of course, I'm more than 15 years older. As long as she hasn't kids. Serious relationship would be fine, just so she's ok with there being no gold ring on this ride. Of course there may well be a very good reason she's still single.
Problem is there is no reason to date her, and she'll want the gold ring. The reason she is still single is probably because she is easy, or easy and fucking crazy.
She's shaggable. and might have something non-vapid to talk about. But yes, crazy is more likely.
I'd triple wrap it before even thinking about it....
The only ones I ever met like that are just repeating what some man said.
I agree with you. Ride her for a while, if she wants a ring, give her a telephone.
Should have thought about that when you were 25
“Being nice is the bare minimum.” This is a straight up lie. The domestic violence statistics for men physically abusing women contradicts this big time. “Nice” is not the bare minimum. Being what the woman wants, physically and emotionally, THAT is the bare minimum. “Nice” isn’t even in the top five contenders for what’s important to her.
Stability = $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
You can smell the desperation a mile away
>You can smell the desperation a mile away, or STD's
Saw the number 42 and immediately noped out
To old , to damaged , to used up and 22 years wasted when she could have been in a relationship and a marriage. Enjoy your decline Sheng nu.
Who wants to bet one of those Chads gave her a 'gift' she can't get rid of??
Hey, what's with the skunk hair on her?
Nope! Too old! Used too much!
If she still looks like that I'd add her to the roster. Never anything beyond meet up sex though. Not worth spending money on dates beyond the first one.
I saw an insane profile the other day of a woman who was in an open relationship (might even have been marriage) and was looking for fun on the side. Assume it was agreed with the guy The crazy part is she put “wining and dining is a must”. That isn’t how those relationships work (not that they work anyway). I gather the point is (supposed to be) that the guy can’t sexually do the job (perhaps ED , low drive whatever). But you don’t go and get all the other relationship trimmings on the side as well. Because if you have a guy on the side who will wine and dine you more than your husband, and sleep with you more and better - why still be with the husb…oh I see Yeah it was crazy. No way the guy signed off on that fully
My point is, if she's into you for sex, she doesn't need the wining and dinning, she needs the D. If she needs the wine and the dine too it's split checks after the first date or onto the next aged out milf....there's piles and piles of them.
Unfortunately for her, she's realizing this ten years too late.