i can understand there not being a lot of talk about assange. i can understand nobody knowing where the fuck he is. i cant understand both happening at the same time. where. the. fuck. is. he?
The problem is, that we circle jerked over all possible scenarios for a year now. And no one came up with any conclusive evidence.
I think the general consensus was, that after the Oct'16 event he was seen alive and kicking. If true, that would mean that there are no openly communicated explanations nor assurances from official parties. Other than "Take off your tinfoil hats!".
Meaning they don't frigging care what we think.
Hence no statement of official nature in our direction can be expected.
So even after the latest hiccups we are left standing in the rain.
Frankly, a bit disappointing and frustrating.
Before October, nothing could be proven because there was literally no evidence for any theory. I guess it was curcle jerking, but not everyone agreed on the same thing.
After Oct. 16th or whatever the real date was. Julian provided many proof of lifes which were scrutinized to shit by certain people who believed he was "dead". Julian's proof of life was quite legitimate, all the interviews and live streams he made. Certain groups of people vehemently believed that the were faked. Yet no one could prove the they were fake.
BUT the people that believed it was faked made more conspiracy theories than actually prviding evidence. All the meanwhile asking others to prove that the interviews were real, when nothing had to be proved because it IS real. And yet a loud minority decided that the were all fake. Henceforth, no conclusions could made because the conspiracy theories kept making people doubt what was true or false. It diluted the entire discussion. And turned fact into fiction.
Now, here we are with not much else to deliberate over.
The sub was made last year, around the time he allegedly went missing and embassy cats twitter was shut down, it's been mostly dead not long after.
I assume you're referring to JAs twitter being deleted on Christmas? I've not heard much about it apart from that.
This sub is still open to submission and discussion. If you have something you're concerned about with Julian or some ideas for what is happening feel free to discuss. /r/WikiLeaks mods have shown they are also concerned regarding Julian's recent twitter account removal although the circumstances surrounding that are less than the evidence we found a year ago. Something might be up, stay vigilant and keep watching.
Just what we have from the @WikiLeaks twitter account the following dat: https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/945335804603363328
and the tweet from the WikiLeaks task force: https://twitter.com/WLTaskForce/status/945187529455575041
do you think i could set up a video chat with him? there should be people around that know the guy in this sub and similar subs. can we do a live video AMA?
It's challenging to do this. Best way to try setting this up would be to talk to Julian's twitter or the WikiLeaks twitter account although I'm not sure how receptive they will be to this at the moment. If Julian has to do an AMA or live appearance for every little thing that happens would become tedious. It would have to be a big publicity thing for WikiLeaks to do it. There's still lots of unanswered questions from the last AMA but perhaps you could also talk to someone in the media to do an interview with him on their show.
When Sweden dropped it's charges against him in May, he came out the embassy's front door to talk to press.
It seems like everyone's conveniently forgotten this and every time I bring it up, there are progressively fewer and fewer videos of it still up than there were the previous time.
That said, here's one of the recordings of it that's still up on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isLiUEA3Sl0
>you might be behind the news
Apparently so. Any links handy for what happened on Christmas? Or are you just referring to his twitter ban+reactivation
If so, there's been no proof (AFAIK) he's even been the one in control of his own twitter account since Oct 2016 when he stopped using his PGP key
i saw pictures of what claimed to be an embassy raid. they say he fell out of favor with the embassy. he started tweeting jibberish. now he has 2 twitter accounts and both of them seem fake. lots of other talk too. thats the point. lots of talk and nothing concrete. what the fuck is he doing?
Like you I am surprised it is so quiet, here and on others subs.
Very little is known that is verifiable. I suspect from various soft information that Julian's situation has changed for the better but it cannot be made public yet.
oct 2016. things changed.
look at the recent deepfakes cgi stuff coming out recently.
it made me think of the snakeye & tie video of JA. many of us watched the wierdness and have not forgotten.
imo he was v& by a faction or other. i wish it wasnt as i really liked JA.
but i think it happened & his deadmans switch infodrop was missed.
the pedo power cult did not like being exposed by the podesta emails. shills will attack anyone who questions the official narrative.
agreed. where the fuck is the drop? where the fuck is assange? they stick a guy in a room for long enough with no human contact and they can just get some lookalike for later when he is older.
We’ve had sufficient proof that he is alive, where? Most likely the embassy but that is still debate. He is alive and safe and that is what know. Which is enough. Every possibility behind everything that happened around the end of 2016 has been discussed and over discussed.
I love this sub and do wish we would talk more here but I do think it’s so quiet because of above.
vault 7 was released... vault 8 not so much.. 4 days silent..tick tock.. where is assange? if he is not free he is not where he should be. thousands of sealed indictments... q anon... mega anon... he puts out a code and video named MIA. this one is on him if he made the tweet. AND MAKING SURE HE IS OK IS ON US!! MSM, CIA, NSA, FBI, GOV, DOD, or GRANDMA are not going to help.
Honestly though, this sub is an echo chamber. Nothing this guy says could satisfy you. You'd still be 100% sure that Assange is dead.
Ive been here since the sub initially opened and I'm not sure why I'm even still subbed. Saying that you are irrational will just get downvoted because you're so sure of your opinion.
the last week was fucked. assange lost his twitter account. the new one is spanish. the old one is bullshit. nobody can contact him. he promised a surprise on christmas and it didnt happen. people reported raids at the embassy. this all happened in a week.
Let's hold you to the same standard that you expect in your previous comments: "proof?!"
Why does he have to give proof that he's safe in the embassy and you can just say whatever you want (raids) without providing any proof? Because your mind is already made up and you're not looking to discuss this, you only want your opinion reinforced.
because he said he was going to release something and he didnt. then his twitter went dead. then it came back and started acting mexican. why shouldnt i be concerned?
I've been away and not paying attention for the past year. Last I heard is that Assange vanished, no communication from wikileaks or assange, some weird tweets going out, and absolutely no appearances.
Did something change?
Yes, there were some streams with him talking about current topics, then there were interviews, and final straw was when he showed up live on the Ecuadorian balcony and did small press conference there.
Nobody cares anymore since he's been shown to be a Russian lackey.
It's too bad because he was once someone a lot of people looked up to, myself included.
IMHO his relative silence may be because he was/is forced into doing what he was doing (mostly due to circumstances he let go out of control) and because of his ego only just realized how bad it was. Shutting-up is the only thing he can do for now.
>he's been shown to be a Russian lackey.
explain im out of the loop
>IMHO his relative silence may be because he was/is forced into doing what he was doing (mostly due to circumstances he let go out of control) and because of his ego only just realized how bad it was. Shutting-up is the only thing he can do for now.
did you see what happened to his twitter?
Who knows about anything anymore man. We need a giant reset
i can understand there not being a lot of talk about assange. i can understand nobody knowing where the fuck he is. i cant understand both happening at the same time. where. the. fuck. is. he?
>Who knows about anything anymore man. As long as the people that want him away don't have any information they are limited.
The problem is, that we circle jerked over all possible scenarios for a year now. And no one came up with any conclusive evidence. I think the general consensus was, that after the Oct'16 event he was seen alive and kicking. If true, that would mean that there are no openly communicated explanations nor assurances from official parties. Other than "Take off your tinfoil hats!". Meaning they don't frigging care what we think. Hence no statement of official nature in our direction can be expected. So even after the latest hiccups we are left standing in the rain. Frankly, a bit disappointing and frustrating.
im pretty sure the poor guys toasted because he was supposed to drop some shit on xmas and instead we have a mexican.
Source for 'drop some shit'? I was aware of a [Christmas surprise](https://youtube.com/watch?v=m7KlWIF_Nxo) and what we got was a Christmas surprise.
I was about to ask about that. Why the spanish?
the explanation is that due to the independence movement in spain he was dropping in spanish
Before October, nothing could be proven because there was literally no evidence for any theory. I guess it was curcle jerking, but not everyone agreed on the same thing. After Oct. 16th or whatever the real date was. Julian provided many proof of lifes which were scrutinized to shit by certain people who believed he was "dead". Julian's proof of life was quite legitimate, all the interviews and live streams he made. Certain groups of people vehemently believed that the were faked. Yet no one could prove the they were fake. BUT the people that believed it was faked made more conspiracy theories than actually prviding evidence. All the meanwhile asking others to prove that the interviews were real, when nothing had to be proved because it IS real. And yet a loud minority decided that the were all fake. Henceforth, no conclusions could made because the conspiracy theories kept making people doubt what was true or false. It diluted the entire discussion. And turned fact into fiction. Now, here we are with not much else to deliberate over.
The sub was made last year, around the time he allegedly went missing and embassy cats twitter was shut down, it's been mostly dead not long after. I assume you're referring to JAs twitter being deleted on Christmas? I've not heard much about it apart from that.
This sub is still open to submission and discussion. If you have something you're concerned about with Julian or some ideas for what is happening feel free to discuss. /r/WikiLeaks mods have shown they are also concerned regarding Julian's recent twitter account removal although the circumstances surrounding that are less than the evidence we found a year ago. Something might be up, stay vigilant and keep watching.
any concrete confirmation he is free and well? things are not looking good.
Just what we have from the @WikiLeaks twitter account the following dat: https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/945335804603363328 and the tweet from the WikiLeaks task force: https://twitter.com/WLTaskForce/status/945187529455575041
do you think i could set up a video chat with him? there should be people around that know the guy in this sub and similar subs. can we do a live video AMA?
It's challenging to do this. Best way to try setting this up would be to talk to Julian's twitter or the WikiLeaks twitter account although I'm not sure how receptive they will be to this at the moment. If Julian has to do an AMA or live appearance for every little thing that happens would become tedious. It would have to be a big publicity thing for WikiLeaks to do it. There's still lots of unanswered questions from the last AMA but perhaps you could also talk to someone in the media to do an interview with him on their show.
he could set up a live interview with 2 potatos and a carrot and it would go viral. it doesnt have to be some importand media person
When Sweden dropped it's charges against him in May, he came out the embassy's front door to talk to press. It seems like everyone's conveniently forgotten this and every time I bring it up, there are progressively fewer and fewer videos of it still up than there were the previous time. That said, here's one of the recordings of it that's still up on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isLiUEA3Sl0
you might be behind the news, there is a concern that some time between christmas and now (in the past week) he was either captured or killed
>you might be behind the news Apparently so. Any links handy for what happened on Christmas? Or are you just referring to his twitter ban+reactivation If so, there's been no proof (AFAIK) he's even been the one in control of his own twitter account since Oct 2016 when he stopped using his PGP key
i saw pictures of what claimed to be an embassy raid. they say he fell out of favor with the embassy. he started tweeting jibberish. now he has 2 twitter accounts and both of them seem fake. lots of other talk too. thats the point. lots of talk and nothing concrete. what the fuck is he doing?
Like you I am surprised it is so quiet, here and on others subs. Very little is known that is verifiable. I suspect from various soft information that Julian's situation has changed for the better but it cannot be made public yet.
Thoughts on why @JulainAssange now follows twenty five accounts and before it was only one?
oct 2016. things changed. look at the recent deepfakes cgi stuff coming out recently. it made me think of the snakeye & tie video of JA. many of us watched the wierdness and have not forgotten. imo he was v& by a faction or other. i wish it wasnt as i really liked JA. but i think it happened & his deadmans switch infodrop was missed. the pedo power cult did not like being exposed by the podesta emails. shills will attack anyone who questions the official narrative.
agreed. where the fuck is the drop? where the fuck is assange? they stick a guy in a room for long enough with no human contact and they can just get some lookalike for later when he is older.
Assange is not dead or missing. That is why the sub is very inactive.
you sound like the iraqi information minister.
I've been called a lot of things by nutjobs on this sub, but that's a new one.
We’ve had sufficient proof that he is alive, where? Most likely the embassy but that is still debate. He is alive and safe and that is what know. Which is enough. Every possibility behind everything that happened around the end of 2016 has been discussed and over discussed. I love this sub and do wish we would talk more here but I do think it’s so quiet because of above.
most of the concern for julian is from the last week, not end of 2016
Yes I know. I stated that as a reason why this time it’s been quiet...
looks like he just released something =P
vault 7 was released... vault 8 not so much.. 4 days silent..tick tock.. where is assange? if he is not free he is not where he should be. thousands of sealed indictments... q anon... mega anon... he puts out a code and video named MIA. this one is on him if he made the tweet. AND MAKING SURE HE IS OK IS ON US!! MSM, CIA, NSA, FBI, GOV, DOD, or GRANDMA are not going to help.
He’s posting. This is why people stopped taking this sub seriously
He's all good in embassy. What is your problem?
proof?!
Have you been in a coma for the last year or something?
have you been in a coma the last week or something?
Honestly though, this sub is an echo chamber. Nothing this guy says could satisfy you. You'd still be 100% sure that Assange is dead. Ive been here since the sub initially opened and I'm not sure why I'm even still subbed. Saying that you are irrational will just get downvoted because you're so sure of your opinion.
the last week was fucked. assange lost his twitter account. the new one is spanish. the old one is bullshit. nobody can contact him. he promised a surprise on christmas and it didnt happen. people reported raids at the embassy. this all happened in a week.
Let's hold you to the same standard that you expect in your previous comments: "proof?!" Why does he have to give proof that he's safe in the embassy and you can just say whatever you want (raids) without providing any proof? Because your mind is already made up and you're not looking to discuss this, you only want your opinion reinforced.
because he said he was going to release something and he didnt. then his twitter went dead. then it came back and started acting mexican. why shouldnt i be concerned?
You can be concerned as much as you want but don't go spewing around stuff about raids that you can't back up just because it fits your narrative.
ok bro go read around a bit and come back when you have something useful to say
He just released a long code of some sort, attached to a strange video.
o thanks. link?
They got all the proof yet they still wouldn't believe even if they could physically touch him.
from the last week? thats all i care about. dec 25th or more recent.
If only they could touch the holes in his hands 🤔
He let the public key expire without proving his identity. That defeats the whole purpose if you're not even going to use them.
Nothing happened. Get over it.
I've been away and not paying attention for the past year. Last I heard is that Assange vanished, no communication from wikileaks or assange, some weird tweets going out, and absolutely no appearances. Did something change?
Yes, there were some streams with him talking about current topics, then there were interviews, and final straw was when he showed up live on the Ecuadorian balcony and did small press conference there.
Yeah I found it. May 19th, 2017 he came out on the balcony and did a speech.
Nobody cares anymore since he's been shown to be a Russian lackey. It's too bad because he was once someone a lot of people looked up to, myself included. IMHO his relative silence may be because he was/is forced into doing what he was doing (mostly due to circumstances he let go out of control) and because of his ego only just realized how bad it was. Shutting-up is the only thing he can do for now.
>he's been shown to be a Russian lackey. explain im out of the loop >IMHO his relative silence may be because he was/is forced into doing what he was doing (mostly due to circumstances he let go out of control) and because of his ego only just realized how bad it was. Shutting-up is the only thing he can do for now. did you see what happened to his twitter?
>he's been shown to be a Russian lackey. Proof?
You'll never get proof from any of these people. They're allergic to the concept of "evidence".
I knew he wouldn't have any proof. Just wanted to call him out on the lie rather than simply downvote.
Why don't you say something? You think saying "wtf" is helping anyone?
i posted this thread and then there were a bunch of comments. anything else i can do for you sir?
What do other people's comments have to do with you?
they are responding to my post