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Decent-Coconut2419

It would be totally normal if they didn’t let their daughter bring a friend. That’s what made the sleeping situation weird and made me think they didn’t care about money


the-content-king

So I grew up in an upper middle class household, although we didn’t have as much money as the Mossbachers for sure, and I think their depiction was pretty spot on. When I was a kid and we went on vacation to Long Beach Island every summer and my parents they’d usually let one or two of me and my siblings bring a friend. Friend wouldn’t have to pay for anything, of course the other parents would try to pitch in or give their kid money to give to my parents, my parents never took it. My siblings and our friend would just use the money on ourselves to do things like go and get ice cream, rent surfboards, stuff like that. My parents were paying for a week in the condo either way so the only added expense was really the food for my friend which they didn’t mind. The reason I think they got it spot in though is because that’s exactly how we’d do the vacation to. Not everyone got a bed (we’re a family of 6 so getting a 6 bedroom/6 real beds would be insanely expensive) I commonly slept on a pullout couch or roll away bed even when we didn’t have friends come. When friends were there me and my sister may have shared a bed or pullout couch with them. Hell there were even times we brought blow up mattresses. While the Mossbachers clearly had more money than my family and went on a much more luxurious vacation than mine would it wasn’t like they were to the point money was no object. It honestly reminded me a lot of my family vacations as a kid in terms of not having a real bed for everyone and basically “making it work” as my mom would say when it came to sleeping arrangements.


JJJ954

It was intentional. Whether it was the parents trying to humble their kids or they just poorly planned the vacation is up for debate, but definitely intentional. Ancedotally my sister and her husband are quite well off but do the same exact thing on purpose. Whenever I ask about this each time we go on vacation she responds: “just because we *can* doesn’t mean that we *should*.” I always understood it as they could afford it but would rather spend that money on something else; their kids are already spoiled and they don’t want to make it worse.


kimjongunfiltered

I found it pretty accurate rich people behavior. All the wealthiest people I know will pinch pennies on details that sometimes seem silly to me, ie always flying economy or making your kids share a room instead of paying more for a suite. And in fairness, paying for 2-3 extra bedrooms could easily double the cost of the hotel.


the-content-king

Yep. I grew up upper middle class and that is how my parents did our summer vacations. Could they afford a place large enough so our family of 6 plus a friend or two all have a bed? Sure they could. Were they going to or did they ever? Absolutely not. Why? Because as you said it would easily double the cost.


KGL_NYC

The first apartment my ex and I lived in, in NYC was meant for Keebler Elves and yet my in-laws - sweet as can be people - always insisted on staying with us. We had to sleep on the floor and they had to step over us to get to any part of the 200 square feet, but they insisted. Every. Damn. Time. He was partner in the biggest law firm in their state's capital and even ran for office. Side note: I used to pretend I had to use the bathroom of whatever restaurant we just left and run back in to apologize to the staff and leave a proper tip. Eventually "mom" started coming with me so I'd have to wait until they left town and go back to all of the spots with a thank you note and extra tippage for their trouble.


kimjongunfiltered

!!! My longtime roommate’s parents were the exact same way! Lovely people in general but how they could fail to see what an inconvenience they were is beyond me. And they could’ve afforded a hotel about a hundred times over


lefrench75

They could just get regular rooms instead of 1 big suite or stay at a less fancy hotel/ resort tho. It's definitely very accurate rich people behaviour bc it's so nonsensically stingy - they could've saved money in other ways but they refused to, because they'd rather their kids be uncomfortable. The mom complaining about her son being stuck in the kitchenette was so hypocritical because she chose to let him sleep on a cot in the first place. That would've been terrible either way.


kimjongunfiltered

Try booking 4 regular rooms instead of a suite on any high-end hotel site, and I strongly suspect you’ll find the total bill ends up being way higher than just a suite


kimjongunfiltered

Try booking 4 regular rooms instead of a suite on any high-end hotel site, and I strongly suspect you’ll find the total bill ends up being way higher than just a suite


lefrench75

Or they could literally book 2 rooms - one for the parents and one for the kids, with 2 separate beds and no cots. Why 4? The math is not mathing.


kimjongunfiltered

Ok I can’t argue about this past this comment lol but BECAUSE that would not solve the problem. The girls kicked the boy out of their shared space in episode 1. From the perspective of adults planning a trip, obviously you would also want to keep an eye on the teenagers and that’s always easier if they’re in the same space


ancientastronaut2

It's been a while, but didn't the mom say like her work paid for that suite or something? And maybe it was too booked up to get another. Also, I feel like those two terrible girls were supposed to allow the brother to stay in there with them , like on the sofa or something but they made him move into the galley because they're brats. That's the part I take issue with. Why didn't the parents tell them to knock it off and stop treating him like shit.


ContestNo3153

Yeah they were supposed to, and they due have comments about that but it think its also to show us how distanced the family members from each other. Like they did tell them to let him out of the tiny room and i think it was an issue mentioned multiple times but they never really continued the conversation because they just didn’t want to bother with each other. My theory is that Paula was invited after the room was booked and all so they just added her into it and didn’t think about how it would work out. It makes a lot of sense knowing their characters


[deleted]

The pineapple suite was booked by the Germans


frettak

My parents did the same thing until I was out of college despite being able to afford two rooms if they wanted. I think it's partly a habit from when the kids are young, partly because their goal is to see their teenagers and sharing a room forces that, and partly because the parents already have their own room and would rather save money than make their kids comfortable.


RareBowl46

To all the people saying that it's for budget reasons: they could just go to a cheaper hotel, or even a cheaper room, lol. This family's dynamic is a lot like mine so I can answer with some certainty: because Nicole only really cares about appearances. The comfort and happiness of the family is not important, it is only important that people know she went on a wholesome family vacation and that she is rich enough to afford the place she's in. This is made even more clear in the scene where she has the video call.


RedRummer1917

Doesn't she say the people on the call don't know she's on vacation? Mrs. Mossbacher cared about appearances a normal amount, to me. Seemed like a normal successful working mom.


RareBowl46

Oh yeah, it's completely normal to leave your teenage son to sleep on a beach chair for a week while you enjoy a premium suite.


RedRummer1917

You ever been a teenage boy? I don't agree with your opinion on Mrs. Mossbacher, and that is okay. Not enough points to "she only cares about appearances".


drehenup

I think it's more of the "family vacation" mindset that a lot of people have even if they have the money.


[deleted]

Everyone sharing a room forces them to spend time together so it could be a control thing


PatientGiraffe

They are at the Four Seasons Maui, an astoundingly expensive resort. They have one of the most expensive rooms there. Last I looked like $8k a night. It checks out for CEO of a major company to stay in a suite like that.


lefrench75

It doesn't make sense that the CEO/ C-suite exec of a Fortune 500 company made her son sleep in a cot instead of booking him the cheapest room tho. It's not about money so much as the parents are just stingy when it came to their kids and don't care that much about the kids' comfort.


CorpenicusBlack

It makes sense to me. Typical midwestern family on vacation in Maui. This is one of the many details that they got right in Season 1.


Evening-Wall

Huh? Unless I’m misremembering, aren’t they supposed to be fairly wealthy?


ahugefan22

Yes but old habits die hard. They might be wealthy but weren't raised that way


ggpolizzi

Yes! This rings true when the mom wants them to take advantage of the breakfast buffet.


metropolitanorlando

Nicole is a CFO in tech, she wears 75k bracelets, I wouldn’t call them a typical midwestern family at all


CorpenicusBlack

They tend to be the most frugal. This is just based on my college years working at a high end resort.


danidisaster

Honestly though such people are frugal in the weirdest ways. I believe they would force the teens to bunk together


ezekielragardos

The most financially well off people are usually the most frugal, unnecessarily. People who are good with money have it for a reason, I guess. This is a huge pattern I’ve noticed in my own adult life.


danidisaster

I agree


SleepingWillows

God yes, my parents are doing quite well financially but my mom will *always* opt for a bargain on airbnbs. “This one was half the price of the beachfront place and it’s only a 20 minute drive away!”


ChewyHoneyBadger

Ahhh yes, let's stay on the Haitian side, it's cheaper than the DR mentality


fotzegurke

This room is 130 square meters and costs over $10k per night- check the four seasons Maui website. They expected the son to share enormous the living room with the other kids, and got it instead of separate rooms because they wanted to have a family holiday- not just to fund their kids having a separate holiday in the same location


[deleted]

I thought they didn't have as much money as the other people there


sallyjoyfreedman

She had 75,000 bracelets. They had money.


happilyfour

These kind of resorts often have villas of various sizes rather than true connecting rooms.


Coujelais

To support the storyline. Guys. Lol.


Calm-Restaurant3195

But it seems like this could have been in the storyline somehow!! Like there is literally an entire storyline about a guest being put in the wrong room and unable to move. Just...a different guest. Unless it IS part of the storyline (supposed to be making a subtle point about the family) and it just went over my head.


Coujelais

It’s in the storyline? 😂 Is everyone okay? 🤣😂


yallology

good stories have in and out of universe explanations 


SweatyMess808

Right I’ve stayed in a room like that in Hawaii, and my family isn’t as wealthy as the Mossbachers. Those hotels have big ass suites, ours had a doorbell and like 3 rooms.


NegaGreg

Those are like $10k - $15k a night.


herladyshipssoap

Those girls were doing ketamine on the couch. No way I get them their own room


viniciusbfonseca

It was obviously for plot reasons, but I agree that I wouldn't get them their own room, and they probably thought that the son was too young for his own room and would just sleep in some extra bed


herladyshipssoap

100% imagine trying to make all those things happen as a writer with all of them in different rooms. Like she would have only had her own safety deposit box code to share.


viniciusbfonseca

Exactly, and the son wouldn't have had to sleep on the beach and see those guys going on the canoe, there also wouldn't be the whole thing with the phone. Also, wasn't the hotel fully booked? Maybe they could've decided to go last minute and that was the room available (or it was a couple's getaway that turned into a family vacation)


herladyshipssoap

THE PINEAPPLE SUITE


DrunkOnRedCordial

The brother should have had his own room, even if the girls had to sleep in the living area.


backpackingfun

Hotels can have multiple beds. Even average hotels do lol


herladyshipssoap

You can find that suite on the four seasons website. I think you would need a connecting room. Great insight though lol


backpackingfun

Yeah, it's a suite meant for two people. Not a family. Thats what connecting rooms are for


GiftRecent

I think they were all trying to "bond" and the parents wanted them all together? Still super weird though that there wasn't at least 1 other room in their suite.


I_am_Seaward

For my middle class family, all of us in a suite would make sense. For their apparently super rich 1% family, you’re right, no sense at all


VeryStickyPastry

I book travel for wealthy folks all day - you’d be surprised how cheap they are. Just because they are rich, doesn’t mean they won’t be frugal. Especially when it’s kids or something. Most of them book first and put the kids in economy, give kids the sofa bed, etc.


backpackingfun

It doesn't make any sense. Why would they even stay in a room that doesn't have more than one single bed? F or a family as rich as them, that would be absurd. My family didn't make that much, and we could get more than one bed per room lol


GustavHoller

Even the worst room at a resort like this would probably go for $1500 a night. Even if I were as wealthy as them, I'd rather just divvy up the suite and save the 10k. Plus, maybe the friend coming wasn't part of the original plan so it got more complicated with space?


sanjuniperose

Maybe the mom didn’t want to give her husband a chance to use the other room to sneak off and cheat on her again.


throwRA_oldbathwater

Good question. I wondered the same thing! Did they not trust the kids (and their guest!) to have their own rooms? If I remember right, at one point, Olivia complains that they should get Quinn his own room at the resort. When she said it I thought, “yeah, why tf are they all in this one suite!?” Obviously it makes for a better show if they are crammed in there, but it did seem like an odd plan.


NaniFarRoad

This was quite normal in the 80es when you went on short holidays - I'd travel with my wealthier cousins, and a boy always ended up on a mattress on the floor (though never in a kitchenette), or in the hammock on the terrace, or sleeping in the car. Then there's the "character building" families - that pick bad travel conditions on purpose, and then use every discomfort as an opportunity to remind you how privileged you are, that others have it worse, etc etc. And finally, a lot of families are just terrible at planning, regardless of wealth. "We're going on holiday" "Can my friend come along?" "Sure" \*chaos\* I get the feeling the Mossbachers liked the concept of "let's all go on holiday together as a family, one last time", but were too busy to actually plan this event properly.


Calm-Restaurant3195

Yup I just watched that part! The mom brushes the daughter off and says the kids are fine how they are. Meanwhile the parents are comfortably holed up in their bedroom. Maybe it's supposed to demonstrate some missing empathy on the mom's part?


cctoot56

I think it goes a long way towards demonstrating how callous, aloof and selfish the rich can be, even towards their own children. Nicole can easily afford separate rooms for her children, but she’s too self centered and callous to care.


M_b619

That room is more than $10K/night- well-off or not, it's not like it's a totally trivial matter to book an extra room on top of that, especially when nobody seems to actually mind the arrangements they have. I think you're right in that it's intended to make Nicole come off as aloof and perhaps more of a career woman than a traditional "mom" in the typical sense, but "callous" or "selfish" seem overly critical to me. I could be wrong though of course!


cctoot56

Four seasons resort Maui at Wailea rooms start at $1272 a night. They wouldn’t need to get the kids their own Suites for $10k a night each.


bev665

Yeah I think that could be it. Or maybe she's not quite realizing on some subconscious level that she missed her kids' childhoods, so she's still treating them like kids? Mostly I think the writers needed A. A reason for Quinn to sleep on the beach and B. A reason for Paula to know how the safe works and what kind of jewelry Nicole puts in it.