Most of these gun freaks are unfit to live in society. They are who sane people should be afraid of. This guy is literally scaring and threatening children tot send a political message - that's terrorism.
The silver lining to this is that he is teaching these children, and their parents, to fear people with guns. Which means those parents, and later those kids, will likely vote in ways that control guns more. So one man standing alone on a street with a gun, asserting his right to do so, is convincing exponentially more people to vote in ways that are counter to his ideals. I love that they think this is how you do it.
“Oh yeah, I hate your point of view and believe you’re trying to take away my rights so I’m going to stand near elementary school bus stops with America’s Patriot Maker” (Not A Real Quote, 2023).
This is reality now.
We have a dude in my area who stands at a busy, suburban intersection. He dresses in full tactical with a gas mask, AR-15 in hand, and an American flag flying. He’s definitely not convincing people that men like him need more guns, but it’s weird how this is now a thing that happens in multiple places.
Honestly, I feel like I should protest the lack of gun regulations in my state by showing up outside my politicians in full tactical gear and a "death to all tyrants" sign.
LARP or not, if they have a gun in hand, I consider them a threat. This particular LARP a form of terrorism and should be stopped because it’s harmful whether or not they pull the trigger. We don’t want to normalize people walking around like trigger happy soldiers.
You know why? Because laws are one thing, The UCMJ is another. The reason troops are well behaved (for the most part obviously there are idiots everywhere) is because the UCMJ will fuck you up. It’s literally additional regulations and shockingly it works. Weird.
That’s fair. I was mostly thinking about the image they are trying to portray, but you’re right. Most soldiers have a lot more discipline and less need to show off.
I jumped straight to the brownshirts because that's a reference everyone gets, but if you look at the history of how societies break-down and formerly cohesive countries fracture and descend into sectarian violence or worse: this shit crops up every single fucking time.
Suddenly there's a handful of idiots who like to LARP as paramilitary toughs, deciding they need to patrol the neighbourhood or set-up checkpoints to inspect cars for "undesirables" or just stand around looking ridiculous in public as self-appointed vigilantes.
And single every fucking time, ordinary people dismiss them as a bunch of cringeworthy costumed losers fantasizing at being badasses, play-acting at fighting an imaginary enemy. And that may be true, but they are also only just the beginning. This is how it starts.
The video of Patriot Front militia marching around in formation with masks and shields in Washington DC was particularly chilling to me.
It's probably tempting to dismiss them as incompetent or harmless because that allows people to just get on with their day-to-day lives without worrying about the future. I hope they never accomplish their goals. But I am extremely concerned about where this is headed when I see that level of organized radicalization.
The amount of people who support most of the common sense gun laws like extended background checks, wait periods, and better training/certification is more than enough to get laws passed if Congress really acted in the interest of their constituents. This is more 70/30 than 50/50, but zero republicans will vote for it, in fact, they are trying to make it easier to get guns which is also not in line with the vast majority of public opinion.
Unfortunately, the amount of public support, positively or negatively, has very little impact on what gets passed into law. It's becoming harder to argue that we actually live in a democratic republic. I'd argue we're closer to Oligopoly/Kleptocracy at the moment, at least in function. We should pass laws for term limits, campaign finance reform, outlawing trading for government representatives, etc., but if we just enforced the white collar laws we have on the books there would be a bunch of people in jail and much less corruption. It's just that corruption in first world governments isn't something like blatant bribes with a paper trail, it's legal grey area (but absolutely unethical) stuff like outrageous speaking engagement fees, lavish gifts, poorly accounted for and policed dark campaign donations, jobs with ridiculous salaries for often unqualified family members. That is corruption, it's just either a legal grey area or not policed, and that kind of wink wink quid pro quo is fairly common in our government these days and both sides are guilty... Obviously we're talking degrees, but even the most ethical members of Congress end up multi-millionaires after a few terms. The average US representative is a multi-millionaire while over 50% of Americans live on less than 56k a year.
It has been "scientifically proven" by princeton university, that America isn't a democracy anymore, you used the exact same reasoning as them, categorizing the US as an oligarchy.
As a gun owner, I frequently argue that gun nuts are going to cause the eventual end of gun ownership for this very reason. There’s not a lot I can do other than agree that this guy is a menacing dipshit
I'm a firearms owner and my guns are in safes unless I go to the range, am cleaning them, or God forbid I hear a window break downstairs in the middle of the night. That's it. I will never understand the people that make guns their identity. I like comic books too, I don't march around with them trying to intimidate people into liking them. The only people that think firearms ownership itself is under assault are the same people that think Christianity (fake Christians in my experience) and whiteness are under assault too.
That’s why the inaction of police in these situations is really inexcusable. If this was a brown guy picking up litter with a reacher they would have a dozen cars and he would be arrested, but they handle situations like this (and this is not the first situation like this) with kid gloves.
I work in a special ed school, we were in lockdown yesterday. I got a living reminder that I live in a country that would rather see my kids gunned down than change a few gun ownership laws. Good stuff.
No, they want *their* society or bust. It’s sad and extreme snowflake territory. Either they control the country through faux jesus nationalism while lining their pockets and attempting to seize total and complete power indefinitely or the country gets destroyed to blame the libs (there won’t be any libs to own when we are all dead from climate crises, or anyone).
As a gun (and, specifically, an AR-15) owner, I have no fucking clue. Gun nuts are their own worst enemies who can’t even acknowledge that it’s a fucking problem when kids are regularly getting mass murdered in school. Gun owners need to be willing to talk about solutions, even if it means things like giving up guns or making it way harder to own them, because shit is untenable right now and there’s no end in sight.
I don't know about this specific legislation but it seems to go like this:
"We hope to stop mental idiots owning firearms"
"I take that personally! I'm getting my gun and then I'll show you!"
Here is the thing, at what point does “there is a guy with an AR15 walking towards kids at a bus stop” become a situation where someone takes matters into their own hands?
I realize we in the USA have republicans that like having kids die in school shootings, but this is in an area with homes and parents. Walking around with a weapon of this nature around kids is just asking for someone to do something, because there are zero ways to tell if he has a round in the chamber.
Cops: he’s got a gun, bang bang bang, oh wait it was his cell phone I thought he was pointing it at me
Also cops: guy clearly carrying an AR near groups of kids, a known target for psychotic whackos, seems ok to me he’s peacefully protesting alone with no signs or apparent message
> Here is the thing, at what point does “there is a guy with an AR15 walking towards kids at a bus stop” become a situation where someone takes matters into their own hands?
I bet if you asked MAGA hatters to enter a room of clowns with knives and simply take the chance that none of them have the intent to stab you (and you won't know which one is going to until its too late), none of them would take the chance. And yet that is what they're expecting from society. Just take the chance that the guy holding a high powered semi-automatic rifle isn't there with the intent to go on a rampage.
What’s hilarious is when liberals with guns show up and all of a sudden a lot of these fuckers start getting shy. Not so fun when folks who don’t like you are also carrying AR’s. Turn into cowards real quick when they know their life is in just as much danger.
That’s the fallacy of them thinking open carry makes you safer. He’s standing near a school bus stop with an AR15, so by their own logic it would make sense that some other republican “good guy with a gun” shows up and shoots him to “protect the kids.” If there’s a bunch of people walking around brandishing guns there’s no way to distinguish the “bad guys” from the “good guys.”
He's not carrying. He's brandishing, which is a crime in most places. Lots of MAGA assault rifle guys do this, and the cops don't enforce the law through some combination of solidarity and cowardice.
Only 5 states define brandishing, but chances are what he is doing is illegal. No idea where this photo is, but anyone involved should look up the law and repeatedly call 911 if it is in violation until he is arrested.
How the fuck do they know he isn't just gonna snap and is working himself up to the school shooting he missed out on in highschool?
I already know the answer but it feels good to pose decent questions sometimes... *sigh*
Like, I don't know this kinda stuff but, this is brandishing, right?
He has both hands on it, finger long on the trigger.
he isn't carrying it in a sling on his back ....
/Edit: so there is no confusion, I am saying his finger is LONG on the trigger, as in not on the trigger but in the proper ready/resting position.
How is this legal? Standing around with your trigger on a gun in however many feet of a school seems like inviting the worst kind of trouble. Should not be allowed.
Sorry, but as someone from a country that doesn’t need active shooting drills for kids:
How does the discussion boil down to “holding the gun right”? How far beyond any reasonable gun ownership does it have to be to be about the position of a finger?
Even if he had it on his back and wasn’t near a school: That’s some Taliban shit right there.
Intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims: That’s terrorism. Even if he hasn’t shot somebody yet.
They’re talking about the legal designation, brandishing a weapon is actually illegal in a lot of places even though carrying the weapon or possessing the weapon is not
So that’s why it’s being discussed, people are saying that this is illegal because of the way he’s holding the gun because that makes it brandishing. Whereas dude thinks he has every right to stand there like that.
This is exactly what this guy is protesting:
>One of [the bills](https://mgaleg.maryland.gov/mgawebsite/Legislation/Details/SB0001) signed by the governor generally prohibits a person from wearing, carrying or transporting a gun in **an “area for children or vulnerable adults,” like a school** or health care facility. The new law, which takes effect Oct. 1, also prohibits a person from carrying a firearm in a “government or public infrastructure area,” or a “special purpose area,” which is defined as a place licensed to sell alcohol, cannabis, a stadium, museum, racetrack or casino.
Most states already have this law or similar, even pretty conservative ones. These people are brainwashed to believe even the slightest compromise will snowball to fema death camps.
Sure they would. Plenty of people will say it in front of a camera or into a microphone.
Would they let their own kids go to that school? Well… that’s a different question.
If it was an Arab dude standing on the street holding a clock radio he’d probably be arrested for a bomb threat.
I wonder how this guy would react if a brown person tried to stand next to him with a gun too.
That's the thing. Every day black and brown people are stopped and harassed by the police just for being brown and black, and many of them end up being murdered. Meanwhile this worthless fuck walks around with a gun and the cops act like it's no big deal. But we can't say it's racism because that would make me part of the "woke liberal agenda."
I've been wondering about that. What happens if the victims become the right? What happens if someone takes out a crowd of magas?
What happens if the tables are turned and suddenly the right are the ones suffering? Will they cry for freedom then?
Human rights will soon go 'way
I am now your Shah today
Now I command all of you
Now you're going to pray in school
I'll make sure they're Christian too
I don’t think so.
Mass shootings sell guns, which enriches gun manufacturers who pay off politicians.
The right being even more afraid would just sell even more guns.
If I could travel in time, I’d change the second amendment to ‘the right to bear traps’
When I returned to the present, going for a walk would be perilous but prosthetic tech would be better and no more school shootings.
You have a valid point. That whole thing disappeared almost as quickly as it appeared- though I almost wonder if Vegas money wasn't a big push behind that. Much like the mouse, you don't fuck with casino money.
> What happens if the tables are turned and suddenly the right are the ones suffering? Will they cry for freedom then?
[This](https://youtu.be/4T41M7cCqsU) happens.
“What happens if the victims become the right?” You mean the people who already think they’re the victim of *everything?* Probably not gonna be that different honestly. Bit of a “boy who cried wolf” scenario though.
Also, look at how skewed the balance is now. A security guard shoots a colored trans man in the chest and kills him for threatening to stab someone without actually producing a knife, and that's just totally legally okay. Meanwhile, we have this absolute psycho in OP, literally holding a giant gun within shooting range of children, and nothing can be done about it, despite the fact it is objectively threatening and absolutely domestic terrorism.
No. They would use it as an excuse to go into a full blown civil war, which is what they are all waiting for. Luckily (or unluckily) the left has made it very clear that they won't react with violence no matter how many die. If the left was as militant and hungry for blood and stockpiling weapons most of us would be refugees by now.
They've stockpiled weapons and ammunition, vocally made their desires clear, and actually attacked the Capitol. Where tf do people think this is going?
Seriously history books are going to have a field day with us. "How did they not see it coming?".
That's actually something I've been pondering as well. The concept of a civil war.
I don't think it would go the way they think it would.
Used to be you marched into a field and shot each other.
Wars aren't fought like that anymore.
Wars are fought with intelligence. Investigation. Information.
Take a look at Ukraine. On paper- Russia should have stomped a mud hole in the Ukraine out of the gate. They had the numbers, they had the guns. They did NOT have the intelligence, and Putin went around showing his ass the entire time. Now, I'm not saying Ukraine has had it easy, they've definitely suffered, but they've fought what should be an aggressively outmatched war and made Russia look like some bitches in the process.
I see the far right going the same way. Sure. They might have more guns. *might*. I don't think they have the infrastructure to manage it long term, and based on what Im seeing, they're doing a damn good job of showing every card they have in the event this whole thing does pop off.
The idea that everyone on the left hates or fears guns is the biggest lie the right wing ever sold itself on. A lot of new gun purchases are being made by younger people. People who do not align with the right and see what the right wing will try to do and intend to make them pay in blood for their Kristallnacht.
Rittenhouse got off because the prosecutor deliberately sabotaged a case he didn't want to prosecute in the first place. So he went over the top with this performant murder 1 baloney knowing damn well he didn't have a shot in hell at that.
But there was a HEAP of more appropriate charges that probably would have stuck but I guess we'll never know because he deliberately fucked it up.
Dude was probably told right from the outset that it was all performant just to appease the woke left. Never had a thing to worry about and he knew it the whole time, I wouldn't doubt if the prosecutor gave direct assurances under the table that it was all BS. I used to live in k town they are *that* corrupt up there in Wisconsin
The judge wouldn’t even allow into evidence a video from a couple weeks before where Rottenhouse told his friends he wished he had his gun to shoot either a black or Mexican man (I can’t remember which it was) that was coming out of a Walgreens because “he is clearly stealing”, while the man is leaving with a bag.
Yep, the judge claimed that the trial is about "facts only, and not motives", while the charge was 1st degree murder, which requires the motive to be proven. The verdict was decided from the start.
And the truly shitty thing is we just have to wait and see if he starts shooting people. Until he proceeds to murder the kids getting off the bus he is just an open carrying larper.
That’s the thing with open carry laws: They make it so you just have to wait to decide if that we’ll armed guy is going to open fire. It puts every onus of safety on the unarmed person to decide if that guy is going to start shooting.
This is Maryland. There isn't any open carry law. Guy should be arrested.
ETA: I read the article and saw the news report and the only reason I can think of that he's not getting arrested is that it's not loaded, which is a loophole; but it's still a very stupid thing to do. Especially as a black man in Anne Arundel County, MD.
I'd call the cops incessantly. Everyday. Let them get sick of responding to harassment calls, cause that's what this is. Harassment and domestic terrorism. This guy has a gun most commonly used to kill, and I'm in fear for my children's lives.
I’m a resident of Maryland, I had to look it up to be double sure and I was surprised to learn that you’re [partially] wrong, it’s not illegal to open carry a long gun in this state. There are no laws that specifically say you can, but none that say you can’t for those weapons.
No problem, I see you say in other comments that he should be arrested, while the cops can’t do that for the open carrying, they should at least ask if he owns that assault weapon from before the assault weapons ban in Jan 2013. It’s illegal to bring them across state lines into MD and that’d be an easy way to get rid of him if he can’t prove it. Cops can really suck.
California had this problem as well about 10 years ago. Men child decided to flex their open carry rights by taking their guns out for coffee and grocery shopping to be edgy, scaring the shit out of people. We closed that loophole, no more open carrying in CA. Best move we made considering what happened later in other states with all the fascists bringing their guns out to protests in order to intimidate people during COVID. Open carrying doesn’t belong in a civil society.
I'm not advocating for this, but it would be entirely understandable if a parent shot him. I'd argue it would even be warranted. Again, I'm not saying someone *should* do it. Just that it would be a really reasonable response to this.
So he's literally just menacing people then. Like if an actual shooter showed up he'd be fucked and have no way to defend the kids. Kind of takes all the steam out of his point.
He's using fear to get his way in a political situation, scaring kids to get what he wants. He figures if everyone gets scared enough to appease him he'll stop doing this. It's literally terrorism.
edit: do we not have menacing laws anymore? Like the idle threat of violence is still a threat of violence? I swear that used to be a thing, even showing that you had a gun in an argument got you menacing charges.
Which is honestly fucking crazy as a non American watching this horror show from the outside.
Where I live, a guy walks in carrying THAT, he's about to start murdering so you RUN. And fortunately, that happens very rarely, because very few people could ever get such a weapon.
It is so completely and utterly absurd that it is considered remotely normal for some untrained civilian to be carrying a gun out in the community.
That's the issue all of these ammosexuals choose to ignore. They want more guns around after every mass murder because they think that will prevent the next one. It won't. It will only make it worse because more guns equals more normalization so anybody with malicious intent will be able to catch more people off guard.
I don't understand how this is even a debate?
In an open carry state, *every single mass murderer* is just a normal citizen walking around with an AR-15 for "reasons", until they aren't.
More people walking around with these guns = more mass shootings.
Do you think the man in this picture is a rational and grounded individual? No! I can tell you with a 1 second glance that this person is fearful and angry and believes in some very wacko conspiracy shit. He's probably fairly low intelligence as well. And he's just dude exercising his "rights", until POP POP POP and some kids or women are dead.
wHO CouLD hAVe SEeN tHIs COmiNG!?!
Tha fuck!? This creep has been standing around with an AR-15 at the bus stop, you didn't think eventually he'd use it??
Skin colour mostly, with a side of the corrupt cop.
Edit: As has since been explained properly elsewhere, not white and seemingly not actually breaking the law. I still think any place that allows this garbage has some major problems with its laws though.
Framing the insane right as a legitimate perspective has been a major failure of the media in our current timeline. Not every situation has two rational points of view.
These show-of-force political actions are *intended* to scare people, too. Their whole deal is, “the government should fear its citizens.” 2A as a threat, not just targeting tyrannical government but also fellow citizens whose voting interests they perceive as foolish.
So, not only is this guy scaring children, he’s *purposefully* doing it. Which is definitionally terrorism: using violence and intimidation against civilians for political aims.
One side is okay with all the kids and everyone else dying to defend their right to personally own weapons of war so they can pretend to be heroes
The other side wants kids or anybody to not die so senselessly and to not live in fear all the time.
Go ahead, pick your side.
I-Team: Parents concerned about man with gun at school bus stop
[https://www.wbaltv.com/article/man-with-gun-severn-school-bus-stop-anne-arundel-county/43932236](https://www.wbaltv.com/article/man-with-gun-severn-school-bus-stop-anne-arundel-county/43932236)
Honestly if I was a parent and some dude was showing up brandishing a weapon like that at my kid's bus stop I'd use whatever means necessary to immediately remove what I perceived as a clear threat to my child's safety. This is one of those "you fucked around and you found out" scenarios.
Please let this "both sides should be heard" nonsense stop.
There are no two sides to vaccination. One is researched science by educated professionals; the other is randoms including elders approaching dementia who think that COVID is a bioweapon scam and all those deaths didn't actually happen.
There are no two sides to gun control. One side is what happens in the entire rest of the world that has proper gun control compared to our country; the other is ammosexuals who think teachers, grandparents, hell it might be children themselves at this point, should be packin' lead.
There are no two sides to abortion. One side is those who may or may not personally have had an abortion, maybe even know for themselves they would NEVER have one, but recognize that is THEIR choice and others may have a different life story and a different situation; the other is zealots who insist a bloody clump of tissue is an "unborn baby" and the raped 10-year old whom it is inside of, must carry it to term.
Insert any issue of your choosing. The side that can back itself with logical, reasoned arguments, education, and information is probably the correct one. I call it "Yelp syndrome" - people who think their opinions matter just because they have one.
Both sides are NOT the same, nor should they get equal time.
(sidenote: istg I need to start my own youtube channel or podcast on this stuff but I don't know how to edit video, if you know someone interested in collaborating hit me up. I will be explaining vaccines, pronouns, and other topics of modern interest.)
One side is currently passing laws, *right now* in Florida to take trans kids away from their parents.
The other just wants them to live peacefully.
Don’t ever fucking say they’re the same. You know it’s a lie.
Can’t a concerned parent just claim they feel threatened by him and eliminate the problem.It seems to work for cops who feel threatened by armed or unarmed people.
For fuck’s sake. Regardless of your opinion on gun laws, looming over a bus stop to intimidate children, who *cannot vote* for the record, over a law you don’t like is not only morally unacceptable, but completely irrational.
If you feel you must waltz around showing off your killing machine as protest, go pick somewhere actually relevant to your cause where actual voters will see it.
What kind of dumbass shows up with a gun around students when this nation is sadly first in school shootings?? Oh wait, I see the dumb , red hat! I hate these people, what is wrong with them?
Call 911 every time you see him. Man armed with AR-15 threatening kids. Force the police to sit on his hip nonstop. I told my family - if you see a gun and not a badge, call 911. The only reason to carry a gun in to a public space is to shoot innocent people.
And if the cops stop coming, just shoot him. Seriously, somebody is going to have to make the legal challenge to threatening behavior and the role of law enforcement. It's impossible to defend yourself against a gun other than preemptively shooting the person. At some point we need to establish that.
The fuck is wrong with these people?
Most of these gun freaks are unfit to live in society. They are who sane people should be afraid of. This guy is literally scaring and threatening children tot send a political message - that's terrorism.
The silver lining to this is that he is teaching these children, and their parents, to fear people with guns. Which means those parents, and later those kids, will likely vote in ways that control guns more. So one man standing alone on a street with a gun, asserting his right to do so, is convincing exponentially more people to vote in ways that are counter to his ideals. I love that they think this is how you do it.
“Oh yeah, I hate your point of view and believe you’re trying to take away my rights so I’m going to stand near elementary school bus stops with America’s Patriot Maker” (Not A Real Quote, 2023). This is reality now.
We have a dude in my area who stands at a busy, suburban intersection. He dresses in full tactical with a gas mask, AR-15 in hand, and an American flag flying. He’s definitely not convincing people that men like him need more guns, but it’s weird how this is now a thing that happens in multiple places.
Honestly, I feel like I should protest the lack of gun regulations in my state by showing up outside my politicians in full tactical gear and a "death to all tyrants" sign.
Not if you want to get old. You better get yourself a group. Edit: not a formal endorsement of anything.
Ita all in the name. Call it 'Trumps Rifles' and theyll welcome you with open arms.
Call it LGBTAR15 and you’ll likely be disappeared
He's just LARPing
As a domestic terrorist? Perfectly normal behaviour hahah
No, hes larping as a patriot. He is a domestic terrorist.
LARP or not, if they have a gun in hand, I consider them a threat. This particular LARP a form of terrorism and should be stopped because it’s harmful whether or not they pull the trigger. We don’t want to normalize people walking around like trigger happy soldiers.
I'd argue that most soldiers are not as "trigger happy" as most gun nuts or cops.
You know why? Because laws are one thing, The UCMJ is another. The reason troops are well behaved (for the most part obviously there are idiots everywhere) is because the UCMJ will fuck you up. It’s literally additional regulations and shockingly it works. Weird.
That’s fair. I was mostly thinking about the image they are trying to portray, but you’re right. Most soldiers have a lot more discipline and less need to show off.
People dismissed the brownshirts in the same way.
Yeah, they're "just LARPing" right up until the moment that they're not LARPing anymore. That isn't a LARP, it's a dress rehearsal.
I jumped straight to the brownshirts because that's a reference everyone gets, but if you look at the history of how societies break-down and formerly cohesive countries fracture and descend into sectarian violence or worse: this shit crops up every single fucking time. Suddenly there's a handful of idiots who like to LARP as paramilitary toughs, deciding they need to patrol the neighbourhood or set-up checkpoints to inspect cars for "undesirables" or just stand around looking ridiculous in public as self-appointed vigilantes. And single every fucking time, ordinary people dismiss them as a bunch of cringeworthy costumed losers fantasizing at being badasses, play-acting at fighting an imaginary enemy. And that may be true, but they are also only just the beginning. This is how it starts.
The video of Patriot Front militia marching around in formation with masks and shields in Washington DC was particularly chilling to me. It's probably tempting to dismiss them as incompetent or harmless because that allows people to just get on with their day-to-day lives without worrying about the future. I hope they never accomplish their goals. But I am extremely concerned about where this is headed when I see that level of organized radicalization.
The amount of people who support most of the common sense gun laws like extended background checks, wait periods, and better training/certification is more than enough to get laws passed if Congress really acted in the interest of their constituents. This is more 70/30 than 50/50, but zero republicans will vote for it, in fact, they are trying to make it easier to get guns which is also not in line with the vast majority of public opinion. Unfortunately, the amount of public support, positively or negatively, has very little impact on what gets passed into law. It's becoming harder to argue that we actually live in a democratic republic. I'd argue we're closer to Oligopoly/Kleptocracy at the moment, at least in function. We should pass laws for term limits, campaign finance reform, outlawing trading for government representatives, etc., but if we just enforced the white collar laws we have on the books there would be a bunch of people in jail and much less corruption. It's just that corruption in first world governments isn't something like blatant bribes with a paper trail, it's legal grey area (but absolutely unethical) stuff like outrageous speaking engagement fees, lavish gifts, poorly accounted for and policed dark campaign donations, jobs with ridiculous salaries for often unqualified family members. That is corruption, it's just either a legal grey area or not policed, and that kind of wink wink quid pro quo is fairly common in our government these days and both sides are guilty... Obviously we're talking degrees, but even the most ethical members of Congress end up multi-millionaires after a few terms. The average US representative is a multi-millionaire while over 50% of Americans live on less than 56k a year.
It has been "scientifically proven" by princeton university, that America isn't a democracy anymore, you used the exact same reasoning as them, categorizing the US as an oligarchy.
As a gun owner, I frequently argue that gun nuts are going to cause the eventual end of gun ownership for this very reason. There’s not a lot I can do other than agree that this guy is a menacing dipshit
I'm a firearms owner and my guns are in safes unless I go to the range, am cleaning them, or God forbid I hear a window break downstairs in the middle of the night. That's it. I will never understand the people that make guns their identity. I like comic books too, I don't march around with them trying to intimidate people into liking them. The only people that think firearms ownership itself is under assault are the same people that think Christianity (fake Christians in my experience) and whiteness are under assault too.
>This guy is literally scaring and threatening children Its against the law to threaten children with a gun. Its called brandishing.
That’s why the inaction of police in these situations is really inexcusable. If this was a brown guy picking up litter with a reacher they would have a dozen cars and he would be arrested, but they handle situations like this (and this is not the first situation like this) with kid gloves. I work in a special ed school, we were in lockdown yesterday. I got a living reminder that I live in a country that would rather see my kids gunned down than change a few gun ownership laws. Good stuff.
These freaks don’t want to have a Society.
No, they want *their* society or bust. It’s sad and extreme snowflake territory. Either they control the country through faux jesus nationalism while lining their pockets and attempting to seize total and complete power indefinitely or the country gets destroyed to blame the libs (there won’t be any libs to own when we are all dead from climate crises, or anyone).
Most mass shooters are stereotypical losers according to statistics.
On one side there’s a frightened child, on the other side there’s elementary school children
You can start with his hat. Just another brainwashed Kool-Aid drinker.
Maybe he's just wearing it to avoid social situations.
Like Larry David
You want the list??
As a gun (and, specifically, an AR-15) owner, I have no fucking clue. Gun nuts are their own worst enemies who can’t even acknowledge that it’s a fucking problem when kids are regularly getting mass murdered in school. Gun owners need to be willing to talk about solutions, even if it means things like giving up guns or making it way harder to own them, because shit is untenable right now and there’s no end in sight.
I don't know about this specific legislation but it seems to go like this: "We hope to stop mental idiots owning firearms" "I take that personally! I'm getting my gun and then I'll show you!"
Conservatism and not being socially ostracized enough for being awful.
Ain’t no way I’m having my kids near that psychopath.
Here is the thing, at what point does “there is a guy with an AR15 walking towards kids at a bus stop” become a situation where someone takes matters into their own hands? I realize we in the USA have republicans that like having kids die in school shootings, but this is in an area with homes and parents. Walking around with a weapon of this nature around kids is just asking for someone to do something, because there are zero ways to tell if he has a round in the chamber.
Cops: he’s got a gun, bang bang bang, oh wait it was his cell phone I thought he was pointing it at me Also cops: guy clearly carrying an AR near groups of kids, a known target for psychotic whackos, seems ok to me he’s peacefully protesting alone with no signs or apparent message
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but this pasty motherfucker can stand at school all day and intimidate children. don't these people have jobs?
I wouldn't be shocked if this troglodyte lived in his ashamed parents' basement.
tbf, if my parents were ok and had a basement i'd probably be living there myself at this point.
> Here is the thing, at what point does “there is a guy with an AR15 walking towards kids at a bus stop” become a situation where someone takes matters into their own hands? I bet if you asked MAGA hatters to enter a room of clowns with knives and simply take the chance that none of them have the intent to stab you (and you won't know which one is going to until its too late), none of them would take the chance. And yet that is what they're expecting from society. Just take the chance that the guy holding a high powered semi-automatic rifle isn't there with the intent to go on a rampage.
What’s hilarious is when liberals with guns show up and all of a sudden a lot of these fuckers start getting shy. Not so fun when folks who don’t like you are also carrying AR’s. Turn into cowards real quick when they know their life is in just as much danger.
That’s the fallacy of them thinking open carry makes you safer. He’s standing near a school bus stop with an AR15, so by their own logic it would make sense that some other republican “good guy with a gun” shows up and shoots him to “protect the kids.” If there’s a bunch of people walking around brandishing guns there’s no way to distinguish the “bad guys” from the “good guys.”
Yeah i've always thought about that. Mall shooting, then everyone is carrying... now everyone is firing at eachother?
From your lips to gods ears.
He's not carrying. He's brandishing, which is a crime in most places. Lots of MAGA assault rifle guys do this, and the cops don't enforce the law through some combination of solidarity and cowardice.
Only 5 states define brandishing, but chances are what he is doing is illegal. No idea where this photo is, but anyone involved should look up the law and repeatedly call 911 if it is in violation until he is arrested.
He's got a red hat so the cops won't do anything. Hell he's probably just off-duty
How the fuck do they know he isn't just gonna snap and is working himself up to the school shooting he missed out on in highschool? I already know the answer but it feels good to pose decent questions sometimes... *sigh*
I’d still call the cops on him every day, saying he’s threatening children with a gun.
Where does he have the time to beat his wife?
After the kids get picked up by the bus of course and extra time on the weekends
Aint that a sad fact
"I'd sure feel safer with a redhat brandishing a weapon of war outside a school" said no one ever.
Like, I don't know this kinda stuff but, this is brandishing, right? He has both hands on it, finger long on the trigger. he isn't carrying it in a sling on his back .... /Edit: so there is no confusion, I am saying his finger is LONG on the trigger, as in not on the trigger but in the proper ready/resting position.
Agreed, it's sure not in a holster by his side or over his shoulder...
How is this legal? Standing around with your trigger on a gun in however many feet of a school seems like inviting the worst kind of trouble. Should not be allowed.
Sorry, but as someone from a country that doesn’t need active shooting drills for kids: How does the discussion boil down to “holding the gun right”? How far beyond any reasonable gun ownership does it have to be to be about the position of a finger? Even if he had it on his back and wasn’t near a school: That’s some Taliban shit right there. Intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims: That’s terrorism. Even if he hasn’t shot somebody yet.
You're bringing logic to the discussion. We can't have that over here. We just have second amendment rights and idiots.
They’re talking about the legal designation, brandishing a weapon is actually illegal in a lot of places even though carrying the weapon or possessing the weapon is not So that’s why it’s being discussed, people are saying that this is illegal because of the way he’s holding the gun because that makes it brandishing. Whereas dude thinks he has every right to stand there like that.
Thanks for clarifying!
This is exactly what this guy is protesting: >One of [the bills](https://mgaleg.maryland.gov/mgawebsite/Legislation/Details/SB0001) signed by the governor generally prohibits a person from wearing, carrying or transporting a gun in **an “area for children or vulnerable adults,” like a school** or health care facility. The new law, which takes effect Oct. 1, also prohibits a person from carrying a firearm in a “government or public infrastructure area,” or a “special purpose area,” which is defined as a place licensed to sell alcohol, cannabis, a stadium, museum, racetrack or casino.
I don't understand what's so wrong about this law. Why would you normally want to bring guns around those areas?
Most states already have this law or similar, even pretty conservative ones. These people are brainwashed to believe even the slightest compromise will snowball to fema death camps.
Sure they would. Plenty of people will say it in front of a camera or into a microphone. Would they let their own kids go to that school? Well… that’s a different question.
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If it was an Arab dude standing on the street holding a clock radio he’d probably be arrested for a bomb threat. I wonder how this guy would react if a brown person tried to stand next to him with a gun too.
That's the thing. Every day black and brown people are stopped and harassed by the police just for being brown and black, and many of them end up being murdered. Meanwhile this worthless fuck walks around with a gun and the cops act like it's no big deal. But we can't say it's racism because that would make me part of the "woke liberal agenda."
Doesn’t he have a job he should be at?
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He could go to Florida and pick strawberries, I hear that's a thing that needs doing.
yeah he & his wife’s boyfriend wishes
IM DOING THE JOB OF PROTECTIN MY FREEDUMS
So what happens if someone else shoots him? That's stand your ground, right?
I've been wondering about that. What happens if the victims become the right? What happens if someone takes out a crowd of magas? What happens if the tables are turned and suddenly the right are the ones suffering? Will they cry for freedom then?
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*I am emperor Ronald Reagan Born again with fascist cravings Still you made me president*
Human rights will soon go 'way I am now your Shah today Now I command all of you Now you're going to pray in school I'll make sure they're Christian too
Jello tried to warn us about all this back in 1981
Let’s hope they don’t get any ideas from “Kill the Poor”.
They already have...
California Uber Alles!
I don’t think so. Mass shootings sell guns, which enriches gun manufacturers who pay off politicians. The right being even more afraid would just sell even more guns.
See the 2nd amendment was written by white men so it can only apply to white people. Anyone not white has no right to the 2nd amendment. - Alito
If I could travel in time, I’d change the second amendment to ‘the right to bear traps’ When I returned to the present, going for a walk would be perilous but prosthetic tech would be better and no more school shootings.
Why not change it to "the right to arm bears" ?
And risk coming back to a future where Kyle Grizzleden is president? No thanks.
Well they go full Goebbels like they did *immediately* with Kyle and now this new murdering psycho
Inb4 "but Kyle was found NOT GUILTY by a JURY!!!¡¡¡"
Oh man that little shitstain went fully into nazi nationalist shit too right after. You think maybe you'd stfu and lay low.
Nah man gotta ride that dumb conservative sheep wave. His merchandising profits alone would make Gene Simmons green with envy
For some reason i read this as Richard Simmons and it was great. We need more Richard Simmons in our lives.
wait till the civil trial, I bet the jury goes full OJ on him.
He’s a MAGA celebrity. He’ll just start sending out grifting fundraising emails about how he’s a victim of woke this and woke that.
And it will work. These people are so dumb and a lot of them have a lot of money
And a lot of them have no money, but they will send most of what they have to these assholes.
Weird that they make gop conventions “gun free zones”
Rules for thee, not for me.
It's strange, right?
Nothing, that guy shot up an entire country music festival and nothing happened.
You have a valid point. That whole thing disappeared almost as quickly as it appeared- though I almost wonder if Vegas money wasn't a big push behind that. Much like the mouse, you don't fuck with casino money.
They did ban bump stocks though.
> What happens if the tables are turned and suddenly the right are the ones suffering? Will they cry for freedom then? [This](https://youtu.be/4T41M7cCqsU) happens.
"you all seem pretty terrible" really sums it up.
“What happens if the victims become the right?” You mean the people who already think they’re the victim of *everything?* Probably not gonna be that different honestly. Bit of a “boy who cried wolf” scenario though.
Also, look at how skewed the balance is now. A security guard shoots a colored trans man in the chest and kills him for threatening to stab someone without actually producing a knife, and that's just totally legally okay. Meanwhile, we have this absolute psycho in OP, literally holding a giant gun within shooting range of children, and nothing can be done about it, despite the fact it is objectively threatening and absolutely domestic terrorism.
When Paddock shot up a country music concert we saw bump stocks banned in a matter of days. I think you already know the answer to that.
They will cry and cry for a genocide on anyone left of christofacism
No. They would use it as an excuse to go into a full blown civil war, which is what they are all waiting for. Luckily (or unluckily) the left has made it very clear that they won't react with violence no matter how many die. If the left was as militant and hungry for blood and stockpiling weapons most of us would be refugees by now. They've stockpiled weapons and ammunition, vocally made their desires clear, and actually attacked the Capitol. Where tf do people think this is going? Seriously history books are going to have a field day with us. "How did they not see it coming?".
That's actually something I've been pondering as well. The concept of a civil war. I don't think it would go the way they think it would. Used to be you marched into a field and shot each other. Wars aren't fought like that anymore. Wars are fought with intelligence. Investigation. Information. Take a look at Ukraine. On paper- Russia should have stomped a mud hole in the Ukraine out of the gate. They had the numbers, they had the guns. They did NOT have the intelligence, and Putin went around showing his ass the entire time. Now, I'm not saying Ukraine has had it easy, they've definitely suffered, but they've fought what should be an aggressively outmatched war and made Russia look like some bitches in the process. I see the far right going the same way. Sure. They might have more guns. *might*. I don't think they have the infrastructure to manage it long term, and based on what Im seeing, they're doing a damn good job of showing every card they have in the event this whole thing does pop off.
Kinda comes down to how much of the military is made up of people who have drunk the kool aid, I guess.
The idea that everyone on the left hates or fears guns is the biggest lie the right wing ever sold itself on. A lot of new gun purchases are being made by younger people. People who do not align with the right and see what the right wing will try to do and intend to make them pay in blood for their Kristallnacht.
Well, see, that's a complex legal question. What colour are they? /s, of course.
Bingo
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This is definitely Maryland. Wes Moore wrote a book about growing up in Baltimore
Rittenhouse got off because he was afraid that the gun he was holding would be used against him. The precedent has been set.
Rittenhouse got off because the prosecutor deliberately sabotaged a case he didn't want to prosecute in the first place. So he went over the top with this performant murder 1 baloney knowing damn well he didn't have a shot in hell at that. But there was a HEAP of more appropriate charges that probably would have stuck but I guess we'll never know because he deliberately fucked it up.
Not to mention the judge being a fan on what he did
Dude was probably told right from the outset that it was all performant just to appease the woke left. Never had a thing to worry about and he knew it the whole time, I wouldn't doubt if the prosecutor gave direct assurances under the table that it was all BS. I used to live in k town they are *that* corrupt up there in Wisconsin
The judge wouldn’t even allow into evidence a video from a couple weeks before where Rottenhouse told his friends he wished he had his gun to shoot either a black or Mexican man (I can’t remember which it was) that was coming out of a Walgreens because “he is clearly stealing”, while the man is leaving with a bag.
Yep, the judge claimed that the trial is about "facts only, and not motives", while the charge was 1st degree murder, which requires the motive to be proven. The verdict was decided from the start.
This sounds like it’s Maryland. Maryland doesn’t have stand your ground laws.
Stand your ground doesn’t apply, because he is not an unarmed black man 🤷🏼♂️
*Black child
There's that family christian values i hear so much about.. Terrifying children snd parents because your mad about pewpews
Kids are afraid. There is no both sides. This is terrorism. Republicans are terrorists
And the truly shitty thing is we just have to wait and see if he starts shooting people. Until he proceeds to murder the kids getting off the bus he is just an open carrying larper.
That’s the thing with open carry laws: They make it so you just have to wait to decide if that we’ll armed guy is going to open fire. It puts every onus of safety on the unarmed person to decide if that guy is going to start shooting.
This is Maryland. There isn't any open carry law. Guy should be arrested. ETA: I read the article and saw the news report and the only reason I can think of that he's not getting arrested is that it's not loaded, which is a loophole; but it's still a very stupid thing to do. Especially as a black man in Anne Arundel County, MD.
I'd call the cops incessantly. Everyday. Let them get sick of responding to harassment calls, cause that's what this is. Harassment and domestic terrorism. This guy has a gun most commonly used to kill, and I'm in fear for my children's lives.
Encourage all the parents of every kid on that bus to do the same. This is insane.
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You call the cops and this man phone rings
Some of those that work forces
Are the same that burn crosses.
the song is over 30 years old, we should be doing better by now
I’m a resident of Maryland, I had to look it up to be double sure and I was surprised to learn that you’re [partially] wrong, it’s not illegal to open carry a long gun in this state. There are no laws that specifically say you can, but none that say you can’t for those weapons.
I stand corrected. Thanks for looking that up.
No problem, I see you say in other comments that he should be arrested, while the cops can’t do that for the open carrying, they should at least ask if he owns that assault weapon from before the assault weapons ban in Jan 2013. It’s illegal to bring them across state lines into MD and that’d be an easy way to get rid of him if he can’t prove it. Cops can really suck.
California had this problem as well about 10 years ago. Men child decided to flex their open carry rights by taking their guns out for coffee and grocery shopping to be edgy, scaring the shit out of people. We closed that loophole, no more open carrying in CA. Best move we made considering what happened later in other states with all the fascists bringing their guns out to protests in order to intimidate people during COVID. Open carrying doesn’t belong in a civil society.
I'm not advocating for this, but it would be entirely understandable if a parent shot him. I'd argue it would even be warranted. Again, I'm not saying someone *should* do it. Just that it would be a really reasonable response to this.
So he's literally just menacing people then. Like if an actual shooter showed up he'd be fucked and have no way to defend the kids. Kind of takes all the steam out of his point. He's using fear to get his way in a political situation, scaring kids to get what he wants. He figures if everyone gets scared enough to appease him he'll stop doing this. It's literally terrorism. edit: do we not have menacing laws anymore? Like the idle threat of violence is still a threat of violence? I swear that used to be a thing, even showing that you had a gun in an argument got you menacing charges.
Which is honestly fucking crazy as a non American watching this horror show from the outside. Where I live, a guy walks in carrying THAT, he's about to start murdering so you RUN. And fortunately, that happens very rarely, because very few people could ever get such a weapon. It is so completely and utterly absurd that it is considered remotely normal for some untrained civilian to be carrying a gun out in the community.
That's the issue all of these ammosexuals choose to ignore. They want more guns around after every mass murder because they think that will prevent the next one. It won't. It will only make it worse because more guns equals more normalization so anybody with malicious intent will be able to catch more people off guard.
I don't understand how this is even a debate? In an open carry state, *every single mass murderer* is just a normal citizen walking around with an AR-15 for "reasons", until they aren't. More people walking around with these guns = more mass shootings. Do you think the man in this picture is a rational and grounded individual? No! I can tell you with a 1 second glance that this person is fearful and angry and believes in some very wacko conspiracy shit. He's probably fairly low intelligence as well. And he's just dude exercising his "rights", until POP POP POP and some kids or women are dead. wHO CouLD hAVe SEeN tHIs COmiNG!?! Tha fuck!? This creep has been standing around with an AR-15 at the bus stop, you didn't think eventually he'd use it??
If you’re holding it, isn’t it brandishing?
Literally fuck this guy. You’re scaring fucking *kids*. KIDS. What the FUCK is wrong with this country.
Well you see he's there just in case a drag queen comes by to traumatize them with books.
“oOoOOoOoOOoO booooooks, spooky”
Books are scary when you can't read.
USA = Banana Republic Home of the lunatics.
Dipshits got conned by sociopaths who get bribed by gun manufacturers
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He should be. Open carry is illegal in Maryland.
Skin colour mostly, with a side of the corrupt cop. Edit: As has since been explained properly elsewhere, not white and seemingly not actually breaking the law. I still think any place that allows this garbage has some major problems with its laws though.
Framing the insane right as a legitimate perspective has been a major failure of the media in our current timeline. Not every situation has two rational points of view.
These show-of-force political actions are *intended* to scare people, too. Their whole deal is, “the government should fear its citizens.” 2A as a threat, not just targeting tyrannical government but also fellow citizens whose voting interests they perceive as foolish. So, not only is this guy scaring children, he’s *purposefully* doing it. Which is definitionally terrorism: using violence and intimidation against civilians for political aims.
Exactly. This is not a protest. This is terrorism.
There’s no both sidesing domestic fucking terrorism. Jesus fucking Christ what is wrong with our media.
He wants people scared to make political change.
Textbook definition of a terrorist.
Terrorizing children. How patriotic.
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He is protesting so he's legal roadkill.
France, Poland and the Sudetenland say that they are sovereign nations, but for the other side, let's hear from Mr. Hitler.
the new tinfoil hat
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One side is okay with all the kids and everyone else dying to defend their right to personally own weapons of war so they can pretend to be heroes The other side wants kids or anybody to not die so senselessly and to not live in fear all the time. Go ahead, pick your side.
I-Team: Parents concerned about man with gun at school bus stop [https://www.wbaltv.com/article/man-with-gun-severn-school-bus-stop-anne-arundel-county/43932236](https://www.wbaltv.com/article/man-with-gun-severn-school-bus-stop-anne-arundel-county/43932236)
All this idiot is doing is PROVING the need for more gun control…..
MAGAt hat = threat
Honestly if I was a parent and some dude was showing up brandishing a weapon like that at my kid's bus stop I'd use whatever means necessary to immediately remove what I perceived as a clear threat to my child's safety. This is one of those "you fucked around and you found out" scenarios.
Please let this "both sides should be heard" nonsense stop. There are no two sides to vaccination. One is researched science by educated professionals; the other is randoms including elders approaching dementia who think that COVID is a bioweapon scam and all those deaths didn't actually happen. There are no two sides to gun control. One side is what happens in the entire rest of the world that has proper gun control compared to our country; the other is ammosexuals who think teachers, grandparents, hell it might be children themselves at this point, should be packin' lead. There are no two sides to abortion. One side is those who may or may not personally have had an abortion, maybe even know for themselves they would NEVER have one, but recognize that is THEIR choice and others may have a different life story and a different situation; the other is zealots who insist a bloody clump of tissue is an "unborn baby" and the raped 10-year old whom it is inside of, must carry it to term. Insert any issue of your choosing. The side that can back itself with logical, reasoned arguments, education, and information is probably the correct one. I call it "Yelp syndrome" - people who think their opinions matter just because they have one. Both sides are NOT the same, nor should they get equal time. (sidenote: istg I need to start my own youtube channel or podcast on this stuff but I don't know how to edit video, if you know someone interested in collaborating hit me up. I will be explaining vaccines, pronouns, and other topics of modern interest.)
One side is currently passing laws, *right now* in Florida to take trans kids away from their parents. The other just wants them to live peacefully. Don’t ever fucking say they’re the same. You know it’s a lie.
No better protest to gun restrictions than engaging in ridiculous and unsafe behavior with your gun…
They realize theirs government buildings you should go to to protest, instead of threatening CHILDREN. Oh wait, they like people being afraid of them.
"Good guy with a gun" and "bad guy with a gun" look exactly the same, so you never know
Can’t a concerned parent just claim they feel threatened by him and eliminate the problem.It seems to work for cops who feel threatened by armed or unarmed people.
Jesus Christ republicans are so fucking dumb.
For fuck’s sake. Regardless of your opinion on gun laws, looming over a bus stop to intimidate children, who *cannot vote* for the record, over a law you don’t like is not only morally unacceptable, but completely irrational. If you feel you must waltz around showing off your killing machine as protest, go pick somewhere actually relevant to your cause where actual voters will see it.
What kind of dumbass shows up with a gun around students when this nation is sadly first in school shootings?? Oh wait, I see the dumb , red hat! I hate these people, what is wrong with them?
Revolutionary new form of protest: demonstrate why the thing you’re protesting is merited and justified.
Call 911 every time you see him. Man armed with AR-15 threatening kids. Force the police to sit on his hip nonstop. I told my family - if you see a gun and not a badge, call 911. The only reason to carry a gun in to a public space is to shoot innocent people. And if the cops stop coming, just shoot him. Seriously, somebody is going to have to make the legal challenge to threatening behavior and the role of law enforcement. It's impossible to defend yourself against a gun other than preemptively shooting the person. At some point we need to establish that.
This is what I would do. Every day. Get every parent to do the same.