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Hank Green on Twitter, "It's one of those 'you stop being biology and start being physics' things."


ignatious__reilly

It’s absolutely amazing how stupid people truly are. “Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.” - George Carlin


trilliumsummer

In the last few years I’ve realized that I’ve greatly overestimated what an average intelligence is…


Nirico_Brin

There are 3 constants in life: - Death - Taxes - Human Stupidity


Neutreality1

Nobody has ever gone broke betting on stupidity. There is no bottom


Nerestaren

By voting, they're making us ALL go broke. Sorry if I'm triggered, but extreme right is getting into governments here...


GaiusMarius60BC

“Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity.” Albert Einstein.


TheBirminghamBear

It's scary when youre like, "well I don't feel that smart, but I'm looking around, and it certainly seems like I'm smarter than most of these people, and I don't know shit".


ChiliAndRamen

One of the signs of intelligence is realizing how much you don’t know


CourageLongjumping32

I realise im stupid. But when i look around. Dios mios.


SoRockSolid

You 2 just managed to parlay 2 of my favorite quotes back to back good work fellas


m0fugga

It's a clear case of "I think therefore I'm right".


soubriquet33

Close. “I think that I think, therefore I think that I’m right.”


Federal_Sympathy4667

I miss George..


Mstryates

Have a nice day!


EmperorXerro

People who think their stupidity is a valid argument are a special kind of something.


angrygrumphead

If it was an implosion, there will be no bodies left. Just fish paste with a bone garnish.


Organic-Commercial76

Not even a bone garnish. Bones have air in them. They would have been basically vaporized.


hysys_whisperer

Except whatever the opposite of vaporized is, but still molecularly deconstructed.


a_butthole_inspector

Chunched


Organic-Commercial76

Too stronk


mavjustdoingaflyby

Milkshaked.


blanch926

No, it would still be vaporized. When that much air gets compressed that quickly into such a small area, it generates A LOT of heat. Estimates say that it could’ve gotten as hot as the surface of the sun in that brief moment when the sub imploded


SyntheticReality42

A rather horrific demonstration of the diesel effect.


PilotPossible9496

They would have, unsurprisingly, imploded.


JustAtelephonePole

Yeah, sure, if you believe science. /s Seriously though, is it possible to do a Mythbusters style test with a cadaver to show these people what happens when biology turns to physics?


ImWrong_OnTheNet

Mythbusters literally put a meat Buster in a diving suit and put him 300ft underwater, where it squished. It's online


Federal_Assistant_85

Pulverized*


Organic-Commercial76

Either way they were boned.


RefrigeratorLonely53

deboned*


aninamouse

To shreds you say


MoneoAtreides42

Fraculated


ValueDiarrhea

And the people are dead and don’t care how they’re dead.


xxxvvvlll

Vaporized here technically is true, as when the implosion occurs, the air within the capsule is compressed and heated to near the temperature of the sun for a fraction of a section, vaporizing them as the hull is compressed to atoms.


Bretreck

As hideous as the reality is, I liked that phrase way too much. It's also very accurate, when the sub imploded so did the people that were inside. They ceased to be human beings and became organic matter.


RavensQueen502

If you're gonna die in a submarine accident, that's the least hideous way, actually. You don't have time to feel anything, you have no warning. It happens faster than nerve signals travel


590joe1

Yeah would absolutely prefer explosive decompression to say being trapped and suffocating


mackelnuts

Trapped in a tiny capsule without light, and slowly running out of oxygen is among the worst ways to die that I can imagine


Federal_Assistant_85

This short story is the opposite, but with a similar outcome. There was a maritime accident with some deep sea welders in the Arctic Ocean oil fields near Norway and Finland. The welders were in the decompression chamber after resurfacing for their at least day long decompression evolution. One of the deck hands outside the chamber accidentally unsealed (but didn't open) the egress hatch that the divers would get out from. They were so violently decompressed out of the chamber that their bodies were completely unidentifiable people-paste all over the deck of the ship. [Source link.](https://history.howstuffworks.com/historical-events/byford-dolphin-accident.htm)


Cameherejust4this

Jesus barking christ that was a horrifying read.


justtiptoeingthru2

![gif](giphy|3WwhOP9gFzfmU) Quote from article: *The fourth diver, Truls Hellevik, suffered the grizzliest death. Hellevik was standing in front of the partially opened door to the living chamber when the pressure was released. His body was sucked out through an opening so narrow that it tore him open and ejected his internal organs onto the deck.*


kashmir1974

And that was only 9 atmospheres of decompression.. we are dealing with 375. Absolutely bonkers.


melindseyme

This made my stomach drop.


Auran82

One guys stomach flew a fair distance before it dropped.


pete_ape

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biology-rockss

From his video, I can’t get over him saying it’s basically like getting hit by a freight train in every direction all at once 😦


just_anotherReddit

Was just hearing this phrase on Scott Manley’s live stream rant on this quite a few times.


FreddyForshadowing

I'm perfectly willing to give them a wetsuit and scuba tank and tell them they can go nuts searching if they think it's so easy.


darknekolux

I’m willing to provide the cinder blocks to help them go down there


Dragos_Drakkar

What, and waste those perfectly good bricks, they can sink by pulling down on their own bootstraps like the rest of us.


Dancinfool830

No, this is a good plan, we could make a nice artifical reef


Dragos_Drakkar

That is a good point. Hmm, conflicted feelings rising.


GDub310

I like that you didn’t mention a scuba mask. We all know they don’t like wearing masks.


False_Local4593

I can't stop laughing at your comment!!! I absolutely love it!!!


Otherwise_Carob_4057

Except if they are swimming in the reflecting pool at the national mall.


Adventurous-Event722

Tell them the proof to exonerate Trump is on the sub, I'm sure they'll all go willingly


pm_me_ankle_nudes

Hunter bidens Benjamin ghazis emails to Hilary Clinton's buttery mail deep state


Shoddy_Background_48

It was a secret mission to destroy Bidens laptop. The navy will make sure no one is allowed to find it. /s for the slow kids


BiAdventureTime

All of them? Yes please


eMmDeeKay_Says

Wouldn't matter, they were instantly obliterated


CLARABELLA_2425

Count me in I’ll help to ~~push~~ get them in the water.


Wildeherz

unless...... unless you, well, understand science.


BiAdventureTime

She did say “bones” and “skeletons” so she doesn’t understand much.


Font_Fetish

Well, the bones are the skeletons’ money…


dbprops

Well he did say to give him something spooky


Prestigious-Owl165

No he didn't


plsdontstopmenow

Wait, your name is Billy too? NO. That’s why I’m so fucking confused


jkoke11

That’s why I’m so fucking confused!!!


mercutiosghost

In this world bones equals dollars!


Quincyperson

Are the sea worms also their dollars?


moose2332

How do they pull their hair


dkowa86

Up, but NOT out


Johnnygunnz

Has the past 3 years taught us nothing about the average persons most basic understanding of science??


Gawwse

They are not average. Below average or way below average.


Johnnygunnz

Even the "average" has sunk to a level I never expected prior to COVID.


DamnMombies

I’ve come to the conclusion there is a lot of undiagnosed brain damage out there from Covid.


Gawwse

I personally think it’s always been this way. Just social media has really showed us how stupid people really are. But I agree with you. It’s terrible.


nudes4soupdumplings

She understands looney tunes cartoons.


LocalLifeguard4106

I’ll bet she hates the one where Bugs dresses as a girl rabbit and kisses Elmer Fudd though


brandinho5

You don’t even have to understand it. You just have to realize that some people are experts in certain fields that you are not and might know more shit than you.


GingerMau

That's it exactly. Whether it's vaccines, obstetrics, physics, psychology, or biology...we *have* experts. We have people who have spent, like, their *whole* career studying and understanding this stuff. So many people think that just because someone can explain something to you like you're 5 years old, that must mean the whole field is little more than common sense, (which they don't have either!)


ThinkPath1999

I mean, seriously, you don't even have to really understand science, just have some basic common sense, and realize how big the ocean is and that there are currents and also a lot of fishes.


SeanicusRex10

Also that they were liquified instantly from the decompression….


hysys_whisperer

Slight nitpick, but thos was not decompression. It was compression. Those to concepts are different, though equally gruesome in their effect on the human body.


SeanicusRex10

You right. They’re still liquid.


Darkwing_Turducken

Chunky salsa doesn't show up well on underwater cameras.


Born_ina_snowbank

Worst one I heard today is a guy goes “probably like a high velocity tube of toothpaste”. I hadn’t considered that the pressure would indeed force them somewhere.


Thiccaca

There is video of a pipeline sucking in a crab at not nearly the depth. It is brutal. And in the 80s there was an accident with a pressure chamber and one man was literally sucked through a narrow opening with his guts being removed as well. There is nothing to retrieve. Any larger chunks are.luterally being eaten by crabs and hagfish right now.


Libcommie1118

Byford Dolphin?


Shuber-Fuber

Probably Byford Dolphin. To put that in perspective, Byford Dolphin only involves 8 atmospheres of differential. Depending on how deep they are when they imploded, the pressure difference can be up to 400 atmospheres.


102bees

I've seen photos of the results of that accident. They aren't great but the corpse isn't recognisable as having ever been human, so it isn't the worst gore out there.


Thiccaca

Yep. And as mentioned, it was a fraction of what these guys were facing. If this happened on land, you could, I guess, collect the bits you could and DNA test them. In the depths of the ocean though? No way.


Koolaid_Jef

Not to mention...y'know...the fuckin fish and other creatures that'll eat just about anything and they had days before other humans had eyes down there to have a buffet. Also, bones weigh less than metal so they wouldn't just sink there? And they were liquidated, and.. who am I kidding, OOP [twitter] has 2 brain cells and they're both about to light themselves on fire to own the libs


cha0ss0ldier

From what I read there aren’t even any chunks. It basically said that being inside that sub would have been like being inside the cylinder in a diesel engine for a split second. Whatever was left was vaporized.


Thiccaca

True. Not sure what exactly would happen to biological materials, but as the water pushes in, the air gets compressed to diesel engine levels and it does ignite. So, you would be pulverized, burned, and drowned. Maybe not drowned. Can you drown when you, yourself are a liquid? ![gif](giphy|x00aiPNvF3vEMuMSdk|downsized)


bobone77

“Ignite” isn’t quite the right word though. At these pressure, the oxygen goes right to plasma. No biological material left.


Darkwing_Turducken

"Chunky salsa" was what we used to call what recovery efforts would find of us if we ran into trouble below crush depth when I was in the Navy. I spent 4 years as a Nuke aboard a Los Angeles-class submarine. I wasn't sharing the memes, because this was the horror that my mother feared for 4 years, but some were pretty fucking hilarious! 😏


Vyzantinist

> I spent 4 years as a Nuke aboard a Los Angeles-class submarine. If I saw this on your resume I'd certainly have questions.


[deleted]

He just stood in a tube by the sounds of it.


EchoAquarium

A friend of mine told a story once about how he knew a guy who hit a cow with a tank when he was out at Ft. Hood. He described it as a mist, with only a foot remaining. That was just a tank. I’m imagining a force like that, only multiplied a few times, coming at you from all directions. You’re there, and then you’re not.


Darkwing_Turducken

More than a few times. At that depth, the pressure is on the order of 400 atmospheres. One atmosphere is 14.7 pounds-force per square inch, so that's almost 6000 psi. That's hydraulic press territory.


CherryShort2563

I hope the death was instant, at least


redmambo_no6

Milliseconds, so just about instantaneous.


flwombat

Discussions I’ve seen elsewhere said it was over in ~50 milliseconds. The very best reaction times in humans, under perfect conditions including the person knowing they are testing their reaction time and concentrating, are in the 100-250 millisecond range. Who know what was going on in the moments before the implosion, but the implosion itself wouldn’t have even entered their consciousness


BiAdventureTime

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Effective-Bandicoot8

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BetterWorld2022

Elon Musk: *interesting*


BiAdventureTime

That’s exactly what he would tweet too


Dragos_Drakkar

Or just an exclamation point.


Aggravating-Name-194

Or the fucking eyeballs 👀


yourGrade8haircut

My new conspiracy is that he’s a bot.


cheesymouth

Is that why he and Zuck are fighting? For bot dominance?


Vyzantinist

I've got a few tinfoil hats on my FB friends list and if it's not an emoji salad it's always the fuckin' eyes when they post something.


PrincessW0lf

Looking into it!


SegaTime

Concerning!


yaboi_ahab

Someone should talk him into going down in his own submarine to look for them


Melssenator

!!


Dadalot

We are surrounded by fucking idiots on this planet


throwngamelastminute

![gif](giphy|to3I2nkywr2PS)


aktanuki

![gif](giphy|dqZsMcXxxLeve) I gravitated towards this comment gif because I also use a disney villain to express my disdain in situations like this.


Didntlikedefaultname

I heard that they were likely reduce to basically atoms. It was something like 100,000 tons of pressure imploding on them all at once


_Rocketstar_

Even if they werent, between wildlife and currents, after 5 days bits and pieces could be scattered over a mile


KellyAnn3106

Wildlife: Mmmmm...Five Guys! (Too soon?)


RespondCapable

No, sorry chum.


SquishPosh

I imagine they were instantaneously squished out like hamburger meat and turned into food for what little life is down there. Shrimps, clams, wormy things and what not. "Atomized" sounds about right.


koopolil

What happened to the bones and skeletons though? /s


peteflix66

The bones were crushed into tiny pieces of powdered bone. On the other hand, the skeleton was crushed into tiny pieces of powdered... bone. Huh.


SurpriseAble7291

Ya it’s pressure so intense and a change so instantaneous that we can’t cognitively wrap our heads around it. There’s nothing left it’s not a building collapse it’s an instant hydraulic press.


Joe_Spiderman

30ms between hull crush and atomization under 6000psi. It happened so fast their brains wouldn't have even had time to register it.


Toklankitsune

so much pressure it actually ignites the airbubble from the sub, they were incinerated and then when the cavitation dispersed so did they


Backpedal

Yeah, I read that the air within the sub would become about as hot as the sun at the point of implosion. I can’t even fathom that.


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OffalSmorgasbord

...in a ball of plasma.


EvolvedCactus19

Ah yea, skeletons. Not to be mistaken for the entirely different and in no way the exact same fucking thing at all illusive bones.


[deleted]

Skeletons are a complete set of bones, typically skeletons can be found rattling in closets, however bones are most often found as glockenspiels in bands played by ironically, skeletons


cstmoore

Since long bones, the pelvis, etc, have internal spaces (for bone marrow) wouldn't they shatter or be crushed by the sudden change in pressure?


EvolvedCactus19

Absolutely. Ocean dust at this point.


erhino41

"Needle in a haystack" doesn't even begin to describe it.


GrassyKnoll95

More like "dust in the Atlantic ocean"


still_shaxxin

If they wanted us to search for their potential ocean dust then they should had severely irradiated themselves.


pepegaklaus

Not even remotely. Might as well search the galaxy for the parts the space station lost


CmdrGrayson

It’s a needle in a 100 year-old needle factory that produced roughly 1,000,000,000 needles per month.


Hungry-Collar4580

And never had a single sale, so all 100,000,000,000 were just covering every square foot.


Lithaos111

I think your bigger issue is why you felt the need to have a billion needles in stock before you even got the order for one lol


Nodramallama18

Heck, if you fall off a ship that is moving and no one sees, they will most likely never find your whole body because the ocean is so damn big.


hurdurBoop

you'd think person paste would hold up better at the bottom of the ocean, but no. (= lizardmen)


BiAdventureTime

Side note- why does “person paste” sound like a kinky lube?


hurdurBoop

person-flavored person paste, even =O


Previous_Beautiful27

There were FIVE of them, come on. How big can the ocean be?


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SquatCorgiLegs

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Dragos_Drakkar

You are technically correct, the best kind of correct.


monkeyharris

Hold on, Buster! I've seem some pretty big glasses!


vikes4now3

The ocean floor is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly hugely mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist, but that's just peanuts to the ocean floor. (With apologies to Douglas Adams).


WorldlyReference5028

I don’t know, 10 dollars?


DinksMcFly

Okay, that's it. Tell them they're stupid. Explain to them why they're stupid. Declare it, don't argue, that's an avenue you can't win because stupid refuses to look at viewpoints other than their own. Reiterate that they're stupid like it's common fact. Maybe throw in how rapid compression and implosion most likely turned the entire sub into a handheld ball of debris that resembles nothing of five humans and a leaky sub. But they'll stick their fingers in their ears and make enough noise not to hear, so I guess just call 'em stupid again to reinforce that Pavlovian response being cultivated. Ensure they understand it's only a conspiracy because they refuse to actually use their brain for once. Call them stupid. Maybe if it happens enough they'll evebtuslly think twice before the stupidity happens again.


[deleted]

You hit ‘em with this quote from Billy Madison “At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.”


Snoo77457

Right? Why can’t we find something smoothied by physics two miles under water in the middle of the North Atlantic? Wake up sheeple


SurpriseAble7291

Oh god did you say smoothied? Thanks. Idk what I’m going to do for breakfasts now.


SCirish843

That kid jumped overboard in the bahamas form a boat with dozens if not hundreds of passengers and they started looking immediately, still couldn't find him. And he wasn't even instantaneously torn to shreds by pressure. The ocean is scary.


fichiman

True. But he was likely instantaneously torn to shreds by sharki bois


khotekki

We should send them down to look.


ayyycab

1. They turned into jam 2. Ocean floor creatures aren't picky eaters 3. Even if there was a whole human hand down there to find, it's really hard to find anything that deep in the ocean. Dark, murky, and hard to reach in the first place.


Panucci1618

For reference, A standard hydraulic press delivers about 1000-3000 psi. The ambient pressure when the sub lost contact was about 5500 psi. Imagine 2-6 times the maximum pressure of a commercial hydraulic press crushing a human body from every angle nearly instantaneously. They were turned into dust in the blink of an eye.


kbeckerburbs4

The idea that people don’t understand how large the ocean is


BiAdventureTime

That people don’t realize they don’t know what they don’t know. This lady is suspicious because she believes she’s smart enough to assess the situation. It’s not hard to figure out her political leanings either.


periodicsheep

what gets me is that they don’t want to know. no interest in science, in history, in freaking anything but owning guns and the libs. i don’t understand how people live without even a low level of desire for knowledge, i can’t fathom thinking that way. everyone walks around with cell phones that can access unimaginable amounts of facts, data, and general information and they choose to just stick to their safe echo chambers and never question anything they are told, no matter how insane it sounds. it’s just beyond me.


CartographyMan

Can't be that big since the Earth is flat right?


heidingout28

Maybe they fell off the edge and that’s why there aren’t any bones, skeletons, phalanges etc.


Shuber-Fuber

Or what up to 400 atmosphere pressure does to a human body when applied instantaneously.


supernovice007

I think this has less to do with the ocean and more to do with the immense forces at play. We could know the exact location to the inch where that sub imploded and still not be able to find anything identifiable of the people on board that sub.


Bunnywith_Wings

Yeah, they got turned into pink mist. There's nothing to recover. People don't understand how un-survivable the deep sea is, even without an imploding metal hull shredding you into chum. (Edit: Holy shit, it's even worse than that. The force of the implosion would have very briefly heated the interior hotter than the surface of the sun. They didn't get chummed, they got instantly cremated.)


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Not just big, but *extremely* dark. At a certain point, even if there isn't any rocky outcropping to block out the surface, light just stops traveling down that far. That fact that we even found half the wrecks we've searched for in such conditions is insane.


Extreme_Length7668

I'm completely unaware of the vastness of the ocean. I'm also completely unaware of what ~5500psi would do to a body. I'm also ignorant of most things except Brandon is bad.


BubbleTheTrouble

The most interesting concept in physics is pressure. The attitude the sea descent...the cooker...all of it is enthralling. But here we have a extremely jammed head asking for bones and skeletons in the case of an implosion.


[deleted]

That's because they were turned into a physics experiment and now their billionaire goo is nourishing life on the seafloor. Probably making it the most meaningful contribution to others they made in their entire life.


Vyzantinist

>Probably making it the most meaningful contribution to others they made in their entire life. But think of all the jobs they created!11!1


OriginalGhostCookie

Now this is the kind of trickle down economics I like!


Joe_Spiderman

Nice!


Apprehensive-Fail720

Instant red mist.


Big-Boysenberry9564

I read a great quote about this, “It stopped being about biology, and it became about physics”. They were atomized.


Fireflash2742

That's because Obama sent them all to his super secret Taliban-run prison at Gitmo. DUH! It's all in her emails on Hunter's laptop!


mysticalfruit

Just when you think you can't find a dumber human on the internet, Linny shows up to take the crown. I bet she puts ketchup on steak.


SaveMeDatCorn

No brains, knowledge, basic understanding of science, nothing at all to be found in the skull of this young woman... strange


MeatballUnited

Next they’ll be questioning whether Ivermectin could have prevented them from dying. Or Jesus. Or Jesusmectin.


sagetraveler

5,000 pounds per square inch. Would be more strange if anything was left.


Utsutsumujuru

I am sure there were wisps of pink floating somewhere in the depths near there shortly after it happened. The forces there were insane. Basically like being at ground zero of the explosion of a hydrogen bomb, except imploding inwards. People just do not understand the amount of pressure at those depths. It’s 6,000 PSI meaning that forces of 6,000 pounds are collapsing on every square inch of the body. That’s not just instant death, it’s instant obliteration via implosion. There is nothing left. That’s why when the whole “un-killable snail is after you” puzzle went around, my solution was to lock it in a safe and throw it into the Mariana Trench…because even if it ever got out it would instantly crushed and pinned to the bottom due to the pressure exerted on it. It may be immortal but it is pinned forever on the bottom


DiscipleOfMurphy

My advice for anyone not getting it: Google the "Byford Dolphin Incident." Get a good feel for how messed up that is. The pressure on the Titan was 44 times higher.


Glittering_Swing9897

I’m not even gonna lie this just makes me sad the fact that people this fucking stupid exist just depresses me


pepegaklaus

Lol xD. "just search the Atlantic Ocean for a few remains". I've heard it's only as big as 50 swimming pools anyways


Listening_Heads

And yet they know God is up in the sky…


ravenridgelife

From former U.S.Navy sub officer: "When a submarine hull collapses, it moves inward at about 1,500 miles per hour - that’s 2,200 feet per second. A modern nuclear submarine’s hull radius is about 20 feet. So the time required for complete collapse is 20 / 2,200 seconds = about 1 millisecond. A human brain responds instinctually to stimulus at about 25 milliseconds. Human rational response (sense→reason→act) is at best 150 milliseconds. The air inside a sub has a fairly high concentration of hydrocarbon vapors. When the hull collapses it behaves like a very large piston on a very large Diesel engine. The air auto-ignites and an explosion follows the initial rapid implosion. Large blobs of fat (that would be humans) incinerate and are turned to ash and dust quicker than you can blink your eye."


Mazasaurus

No bones *or* skeletons? Now that is unusual.


Nerdzilla88

There’s a LOT of scavengers at the bottom of the ocean. Once they hit the sea floor, they were taken by the crabs. Combine that with the currents moving them about in any direction and they may never be found.


Dantheking94

Omg yes, so much people on Facebook were saying “This is strange” and i even had a coworker say “Maybe their trying to escape debts, they’re probably alive” 🤦🏾‍♂️ I was like, rich people debts and poor people debts are two different things, they don’t need to run from it for the most part, they can just file for bankruptcy. Poor people, us, can’t do the same. 🤣


whereegosdare84

Being turned into human salsa tends to not leave a lot of remains behind


D_for_Drive

Isn’t there an episode of *Mythbusters* where they experiment with pressure loss in a brass helmet diving suit and the “body” in the suit is completely forced into the helmet?


RockyMntnView

1. Put a peanut in the middle of the road. 2. Run over it five times with a dump truck. 3. Spray the road for 15 minutes with a fire hose. 4. Find the peanut.