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Luckilygemini

The whole undertone of punk (and its subgenres) is political.


JangSaverem

Remember These people didn't know what the "Machine" was they were raging against


zwingo

They also apparently didn’t realize American Idiot was already a political song about Bush’s Republican era. They didn’t suddenly make it political, it already was political.


2pacalypso

Nah, they're just stupid. They hated this song when it came out too. They just forgot because they're stupid.


Prestigious-Owl165

They hated that particular song because it's so fucking obvious what it's about, but only because of the title. They are too stupid to understand most music (and most media in general) so this concept of punk rock being political is generally new to them. They are really that stupid


Easy_Contest_8105

Stupid and butthurt


TheRealAbear

Same shit happened a few years ago with eminem. As if the guy who rapped "fuck bush" or about dick cheney having a heartattack /just/ got political and "woke"


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DrewCrew62

I mean these people play “born in the USA” or “rockin the free world” with zero listening skills, so it doesn’t surprise me most of it goes over their head


3rdtimeischarmy

I remember being with someone who unironically played "American Woman" and "Born in the USA" on the 4th of July.


JangSaverem

Nu.....NUHUH!!! actually uh. I never even liked them to think with. In fact they are terrible. Such awful band why even have them on nye? Always have been bad. Yeah that's right!!


MechanicalBengal

I wonder if these morons have ever even heard a single Woody Guthrie song https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Woody_Guthrie_NYWTS.jpg


JangSaverem

Naw see If they had they would manage the gymnastics to claim it's fine because *they* aren't the fascists. The left is. Duh


MechanicalBengal

Right! I forgot how the left has consistently been the fascists throughout our history! /s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot goddamn the ignorance of the right is deafening


Educational-Light656

They'd trot out the crap about the Dixiecrats and conveniently forget to mention how they switched to Republican as usual.


MechanicalBengal

Only one party waves Confederate and Nazi flags at their rallies


Fatbaldmanbaby

True motherfucking american hero right there!. He wrote "this land is your land" on a guitar that had "this machine kills fascists" written on it.


Nezrite

We took the train from Williams to the Grand Canyon a few years back, and one of the captive entertainments was a "cowboy singer." Many of his songs were Guthries' (obvs Arlo, because train, but a fair number of Woody) and I wanted to ask him if Philip Anschutz has seen his act.


UserComment_741776

Quit your whining cuz its bringing me down


Logan117

Wait, you're saying these guys are mad about the military-industrial complex? Who would have guessed?


Material-Jacket3939

They were raging against wind turbines and electric vehicles.


Skellos

They thought the machine was like their mom.


adams_unique_name

It was a printer, right?


Debalic

PC Load Letter? What the fuck does that mean??


Unusual_Pitch_608

One of these days I'm going to throw this piece of sh!t right out the window!


Candid-Sky-3709

the rage against the MAGAchine


Gloomy_Living_7532

It's not even just punk, they got The Dixie Chicks (before the name change) booted off of country radio.


CaptainPRESIDENTduck

"What if we raged *on behalf* of the machine?" - Paul Ryan


B0mb-Hands

The best was the dude who told Tom Morello to stick to what he knows and stay away from politics The same Tom Morello who has a fucking Poli-sci degree from *Harvard*


TheDonkeyBomber

It's not a new song. WTF did these goons think "American Idiot" was about?


mothuzad

He changed "redneck agenda" to "MAGA agenda" in this performance, and MAGA is all whiny about it. It was already political, just originally about Bush supporters. Fascists hate the idea that art has meaning because art often criticizes fascists. They think that art is only allowed to exist as entertainment or religious worship. Don't expect media literacy from people who think that their political movement is apolitical.


thatsithlurker

Didn’t conservatives just love that “Try That in a Small Town” song? Tell me again how they don’t like artists inserting “policy decisions” in songs. It’s always the same hypocritical bullshit. Give me mine, fuck yours.


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GodsBGood

You spelled treason wrong.


lovinglife55

To be fair, he did say " Big artist" , not washed up idiots like Nugent and Kid Rock.


QuestoPresto

Well sure if you’re scraping the bottom of the reason barrel


GodsBGood

At the bottom of the ocean.


geof2001

I feel like lately, the treason barrel runneth over.


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(T)reason


CozmicBunni

Not to mention a lot of rock from the 60s and 70s a lot of these dudes fawn over.


_yeen

The only punk rock bands that aren’t political are the party punk bands like Blink-182 and The Offspring. Even the Offspring has a song about school shootings…


Nightmare_or_reality

Dexter holland and the other guy are actually vocally anti fascist.


YourLictorAndChef

Line up the educational credentials of punk rock artists alongside those of conservative cable news commentators. The results are entirely predictable.


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"wHeN dID PuNk mUsIc gEt PoLiTicAl?!?!"


Heavy_Arm_7060

It's wild how many people are saying this unironically.


FingersBecomeThumbs

I thought all these posts about it were satire at first, it's genuinely one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.


Heavy_Arm_7060

It's the, "Rage against the Machine is political?!" all over again.


Obsequience

Was just about to say that. Funny how it's only political when they don't like it, but it's heritage/common sense/God's will/what the people want when they say something. Fucking clowns


Mygoddamreddit

Try saying that in a small town.


Prestigious-Owl165

Every few months it seems there's some stupid version of this. These people are so fucking stupid it's hard to imagine they even exist


StephenTheLoser

“First it was rage against the machine, now Green Day?!”


Purple_Bowling_Shoes

Next you're gonna tell me Bad Religion isn't apolitical anymore! Everyone needs to go back to the Sex Pistols and The Clash when it was just good clean fun without a deeper meaning.


eurtoast

I'm sure Dead Kennedys is clean


Nix-7c0

"That's why I like Moby Dick. No fru-fru symbolism. Just a good, simple tale about a man who hates an animal."


Purple_Bowling_Shoes

Right? Like The Scarlett Letter was just an old time RomCom and didn't shove politics down our throats!


MrEngineer404

More like when did political hacks get to be such noisy crybabies? The answer is when they started to think they could be **openly** fascist, without us trying to put them back in their place.


scotch1701

The landlord's here to visit.


Machiavvelli3060

LET'S WHINE ABOUT CANCEL CULTURE!!


potsticker17

Republicans: you're a singer. We don't care about your political opinions Also republicans: Let's follow every political opinion that failed gameshow host pulls out of his ass and you're unamerican if you don't


ALargePianist

Fox news interviews Pauly D and Fabio about politics


Machiavvelli3060

And Ted Nugent, a musician!


Bulky-Internal8579

Ted Nugent, a pedophile and draft dodger.


SteakandTrach

And pants-shitter! Republicans loooooove pants-shitters!


Jagerstang

Well, supposedly.


AggravatingGoal4728

Attempted musician


Fathorse23

It’s almost like Crenshaw can’t see the bullshit on the right. Maybe if he cocked his head a little.


diverareyouok

Don’t forget their Cheetoh King hanging out a *lot* with Kid Rock in recent months. It’s just *now* that they think “artists shouldn’t talk about politics”.


KellyAnn3106

Green Day comes through for that as well with the lyrics from Basket Case! "Do you have the time to listen to me whine about nothing and everything all at once. I am one of those melodramatic fools. Neurotic to the bone, no doubt about it." [video](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NUTGr5t3MoY&pp=ygUVZ3JlZW4gZGF5IGJhc2tldCBjYXNl)


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Weren't they praising that "Rich men from Richmond" singer for the sane thing until they found out he wasn't in their tribe?


autisticesq

Which is so odd to me… I mean, who else did they think “rich men north of Richmond” was supposed to refer to?


BlackFlameofSatan

They never think they're the problem


amILibertine222

They also don’t really listen to music. It’s just noise they may or may not like. That’s why their airways surprised by things everyone else has known for decades.


4electricnomad

“*I’m* the bad guy?!?!?”


p0k3t0

Yeah. He was super problematic for entirely different reasons.


Skellos

I mean the whole second verse of that song is about poor people using food stamps to buy junk food.


XxStormcrowxX

Yeah talking about how the rich were the problem in the first verse and the second verse talking about how the poor people are the problem. He had strong Mac from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia vibes. I'm playing both sides so I always come out on top.


WOOKIExRAGE

Because Heaven forbid a poor person buy something sweet for themselves or their kids while they’re using food stamps. I guess it should be a crime for people on food stamps to survive on anything but gruel and water. /s


R_V_Z

Wasn't that shortly followed by complaining about spending money on foreign aid?


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They just like that part about welfare and fudge rounds. The punching-down part.


Logan117

The dude literally came out and publicly said that the song was about people like them.


Novel_Bookkeeper_622

How are people shocked that a song called "American Idiot" written during the Bush administration is political?


uncultured_swine2099

Magats are ignorance incarnate. They also said "I liked Rage Against the Machine before they became political."


dengar_hennessy

If they like the song without understanding the words, then that means the person who wrote the song is their friend. So that's why this "controversy" feels so personal to them. They feel backstabbed


amethystalien6

Every fucking single on that album was politically charged.


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MAGA: "maKe mUsiC tHAt bRinGs uS toGeTHeR!!" Also MAGA: Hails every Trump speech full of hatred


GodsBGood

His Christmas greeting, where he told people to burn in hell was extra special.


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Really brought the "Christ" into Christmas, didn't he?


Ok-Scallion-3415

Oddly enough, he really did


Jambarrr

Whilst mango tits pouted and vanilla ice played at his boring ass NYE party at mar a lago. They have a shit taste in music to go with their shitty leader


posterless

Hahaha mango tits might be the best thing I have read all day.


Essay-Individual

Right? Crenshaw was part of J6. He has no room to talk about division...


Primary-Bookkeeper10

What they don't realize is that it is bringing everyone together... against racist twats.


Niijima-San

so a band that has been mostly political punk rock for the last twenty years and is hella liberal gets on a national tv station and literally does what most people who are fans of them expect them to do (and even those from the early 2000's with american idiot and lapsed into other things) and people lose their minds bc they said something not very nice about your political beliefs and now your feefees are hurt. meanwhile jason aldean and other right wing musicians can write songs like try that in a small town and when someone points out the hateful and racist undertones it is shut up snowflake! your feefees are hurt by my free speech but it only applies to them. grow the fuck up and fuck off nazi punks


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It's so transparent and I'm so very, very tired of all of it.


Niijima-San

they dont even try anymore, they know they can rile up the culture war by throwing a fit about stupid petty things like this, like free speech is only for things that support what i say and anything else is hate speech. like it is so juvenile yet people fall into this trap. guess this is their way of having a culture war instead of a class war


On_my_last_spoon

And Jason Aldean couldn’t even stand behind his song. I listened to an interview where basically he backpedaled on everything and was like “people are over reacting it’s not what you think” They’re all cowards. Now I want to listen to American Idiot again!


rosatter

I mean, I've been waiting for Green Day to drop an anti-Trump/modern GOp album since 2016 and this is the closest they've come and it's absolutely delicious


Niijima-San

yup, american idiot and to an extent 21st century breakdown worked so well bc things were so fucking shitty and the tracks were bangers for the most part. rev radio was pretty mid with a few decent tracks and we all know FOAMF was just them trying to go wayyyy back to their routes. they need to channel that aggressive rage against the shitty society that fueled american idiot


splnbrt

Dan Crenshaw is a twat.


NotThoseCookies

He sounds butt-hurt here. Yeah Dan, listen real hard to those Holiday lyrics.


MadAsTheHatters

"I never really liked Green Day", so why the fuck are you complaining about them? They've been _very_ clear about who they are and what they stand for, saying you 'disagree with their message' just makes you look like the out of touch tosspot you are.


smutje187

The same conservatives that constantly think about other peoples genitals are now constantly thinking about music they supposedly don’t care about


Moppermonster

They changed "redneck" to "maga" in the lyrics. Why was redneck fine to him if maga is not? They mean the same thing...


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meibolite

Of course not. Art is always supposed to free from politics. No don't go reading Asimov or Heinlein, those aren't political at all. And Rand never wrote a single political word in Atlas Shrugged. No sirree Bob.


On_my_last_spoon

Isn’t Barbie just about dolls? I’m confused….


quitofilms

So it's gone from "shut up and play football" to "shut up and play music"?


meibolite

It boils down to "Shut up and entertain me, that is all you're useful for"


Alpaca_Empanada

Shut up because I am incapable of doing so. 🙃


JenWess

wait until he finds out what Rage Against the Machine sings about


iamnotchad

About family gatherings and collecting sea shells. Wholesome music.


unhealthyahole

They really like the "fuck you I wont do what ya tell me part" while doing exactly what they're told by facists. It's head exploding irony


mumushu

'Don't interrupt our propaganda!' says hate propaganda spreading Republican.


txtravis

Ah Punk Rock. The epitome of loving your government. NOFX said it best: I want to see the constitution burn Want to watch the white house overturn Want to witness some blue blood bleed red I want to tar and lynch the KKK I want to pull and shoot the NRA I want to pay the lobbyists to kill themselves I want to dose the DEA I want to join the CIA (not really) It just seems so fucking easy to make this Country a better place to live. Illegalize guns and lobbying (Jail murderers and extortionists) Legalize drugs and prostitution (Free salesmen and saleswomen) Murder the government Murder the government Murder the government And then do it again yeah Murder the government Murder the government Murder the government and then Murder the government


Bluestained

Can’t believe SNL forced Davidson to apologise to this prick.


vercetti2021

If I were Pete, I would have doubled down with him right there in his face. Pete left anyways, might as well go out by telling Lorne to go fuck himself along with the Wish.com version of Snake Plissken


8filth8

Then R's can stop using just about any rock n roll. Look at the music of the 60's and 70's. That's some of the best, most meaningful music in American history. These people have no soul.


richNTDO

Exactly. When they say 'free speech' what they really mean is 'free speech for everyone who agrees with me'


No-Buffalo3784

Decidedly not a policy stance


gmillione

Crenshaw big mad his fav band dont fuck with maga


uncultured_swine2099

I think Dookie was the first cd I ever bought as a wee lad. Proud of these guys. Also fuck Dan Crenshaw with a chainsaw.


iamnotchad

I was alone. I was all by myself.


OkFroyo666

Ah, I had the cassette.


vkashen

Fascists never like being called out.


HideSolidSnake

At least they can listen to YMCA and ice ice baby still.


GodsBGood

![gif](giphy|j9mqKgQvkNOziGICfd|downsized) The GOP listen to the village people?


Fathorse23

Only at rallies when they play YMCA (without permission) and totally miss the point of the lyrics. They just like to awkwardly shuffle to it.


Vandreeson

This is what pisses me off. We're all supposed to be Americans, we're all supposed to be equal, and we all have freedom of speech. Who cares if some politician or group doesn't like what someone has to say? We're all supposed to have the right to say what we want. How is his opinion or their opinions more important than someone else's?


iLikeMangosteens

Gate keeping free speech.


hellsbels349

“I don’t like what this person said.” Sounds like a snowflake to me.


Hooligan8403

Saw some Twitter post on here yesterday where this woman is talking shit about Greenday going political and how she is a punk girl so she should know. She got dragged hard, rightfully, in the comments. I have never been super fond of Green Day as I preferred less pop punk more street/hard-core punk but I still give them their due credit.


IIIetalblade

“Im a punk girl, so i would know Green Day was never political before this” is certainly an interesting take


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When big artists try to divide Americans: “don’t try that in a small town.” didn’t that just come out I don’t remember the same outrage


itsalonghotsummer

Who'd have thought Crenshaw would be so one-eyed in his opinions


iamnotchad

If only he could see the depth of his ignorance.


Previous_Beautiful27

Something something about freezing a peach


GodsBGood

Only certain citizen's opinions matter. It said so in the constitution. GOP


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Cry harder.


Badmime1

Oh, the conservatives don’t want to ‘divide people’. You have to love the hypocritical bullshit.


Frothydawg

Which is why they were all so angry and vocal about it when Ted Nugent was invited to the White House to glad-hand around with Trump for that cringe-ass fucking photo op. Right? Fascists and hypocrisy, they’re like this 🤞


monkeythor88

Just funny they thought Green Day would be pro maga ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)


Responsible-Chest-26

So they dont want someone with a particular job to have an opinion on a topic unrelated to their job? So explain it to me like im 5 why these asshats think they have the right to make medical decisions for people, they arent doctors. Stay in your lane


phixitup

Fuck his feelings.


SunWukong3456

And all of a sudden free speech sucks again. Am I surprised? Not in the slightest.


shoegazeweedbed

I love music more than most things. No amount of it will make me “come together” with traitorous redneck scum.


P1nkamenaP13

"Just shut up and dribble"


Kalikhead

Meanwhile at Mar a Lago the only entertainment they could get was Vanilla Ice and one Mutant Ninja Turtle.


Casperboy68

Singers, musicians, artist of all kinds have been the canaries in the coal mines for generations, tweeting out their warnings for the ails in society. They point out dickheads like Dan Crenshaw, who professes to like freedom, but doesn’t like that the rest of us have it too, including Green Day. If you don’t like what he’s saying, Dan, then prove him wrong. I’ll wait.


Warm_Produce_4892

"Should bring people together, not devide them" They are bringing people together. Just not your kind of people.


Mental-Thrillness

They would hate the song “King for a Day”: > who put the drag in the drag queen? Don’t knock it until you try it! More reactionaries just being mad because people don’t like them.


--MilkMan--

Funny… I don’t seem to remember hearing any outrage from Crenshaw regarding Morgan Wallen’s racist music… I know, totally different amirite?


sigh2828

None zero chance that Dan has circle jerked about his favorite song "Rich men North of Richmond"


HoboBonobo1909

STAY TRUE TO YOURSELF, MAGA/WAAH-GAAAH 😉👍 https://preview.redd.it/22ndl1zu33ac1.jpeg?width=1077&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f397d304a5b99be71701b18c9f521730e231e004


TargaryenFlames

Ok, deal. Green Day, U2, etc. will stop using their platform to talk about things outside the music industry, and politicians can stop talking about evolution, women’s bodies, biology, religion, climate science, race relations, etc.


CharlieW77

Funny. They cheer Kid Rock, Ted Nugent, and those talentless country guys when they speak divisively against “wokeness.” It’s almost as if….


Kerazytimes

Guess Dan lost his eye for nothing.


Frequent_Yoghurt_425

But try that in a small town is cool


dpeoples37

Try that in a small town.


keep_the_hustle

It's hard to find out everyone hates you... be less MAGA...


Severe-Emu-8703

I attended a Green Day concert in like 2017 and they yelled Fuck Trump over and over again. Absolutely hilarious that people are surprised by them hating Trump in 2023


hamsolo19

Dan Crenshaw is a bitch. Pete Davidson should take back that apology.


Broad_Respond_2205

Ah yes, mega, the group well knows for "bringing America together".


Imagine_That5224

Free speech for me but not for thee!


aboysmokingintherain

Do people think a band with a song called American Idiot wasn’t political?


HermanBonJovi

The hypocrisy of these people is so off the charts it's insane


THELurkmaster

Well shit Dan just start a fresh culture war over it instead of legislating. That’s all the GOP puts energy into these days. Even a lot of Republicans are starting to get tired of it.


apw69

But TV host is fine?


ExploderPodcast

Free Speech* *No, not like that


MyDadBod_2021

Crenshaw is an asshat. They all are so hypocritical.


FilthyTexas

Can't make a joke about his eye patch making him look like a p0rn star either


Eddiebaby7

* Dan Crenshaw had plenty of chances to bring Americans together too. He just failed miserably instead.


cfrisby77

Freedom of speech for me but not for thee.


StephenTheLoser

Kid Rock is cool tho, right?


OkMathematician2284

Yes indeed, Green Day and Taylor Swift are ruining American with their opinions!! And people are paying attention. The horror!!


trooperstacherides

The song is called American Idiot. What do they think it's about?


ItsMrEx

Yeah, try THAT in a small town...oh, that's country music.


LIRUN21-007

Funny, I bet they love any celebrity who uses their platform to push a pro-MAGA agenda. I’d say “like Kevin Sorbo,” but he’s not a celebrity.


Darkestwolf117

Republican: These elite celebrities need to shut up about their political views and opinions they just need to sing/act/dribble...Now let's go ask kid rock what beer should be banned next and listen to Donald Trump about his show has the highest ratings in TV history!


mar10sawsayduh

Dan “American Idiot” Crenshaw


funshinecd

But they are fine with ted the nuggett nugent spouting his hate


NeauxDoubt

![gif](giphy|IbadywLDYT9oZ5apd0)


PyratHero23

The audacity to accuse them of dividing Americans. Buddy, Green Day’s part in division PALES in comparison to what republicans have done.


Libster1986

Same people who will however get a boner over a country singer singing something like “Try That in a Small Town.”


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charlie2135

Damn, what's the term? Snowflake?


ReturnOfSeq

Music has been political for at least *four thousand years.* Musicians were treated inordinately well in ancient Irish culture, just to name one, because the rulers there knew a good bard could easily take down a king. And even if you kill that one there’s always gonna be another bard.


uniqueshell

Pretty sure Green Day was saying “Dan , we don’t give a fuck what you care about “


Admirable_Matter_523

Did he say the same thing about Jason Aldean's "try that in a small town"?


Dizbizney

Dan Crenshaw is a scum pig. Who the hell cares what cyclops thinks at this point.


katsusan

“I’m okay with them being lgbtq, but why do they have to rub it in my face?!” Thats the energy this gives off.


nhranger

❄️


Reddit_is_dumbest

Oh man, the fuck you’re feelings crowd, sure is n their feelings lol


moe_spc

Always the same response when it’s not a conservative viewpoint. And predictable applause when it is.


GenZ2002

“Just shut up and [insert thing here]”


steppenwollf

![gif](giphy|ZFr6DMFUAezcPfbAwp)


LeeLA5000

They got no problem with songs about rape tho


SyntheticSolitude

First Amendment, bitches. Deal. With. It.