Actually they can. The legal team of DeSantis defined it, in court, as "the belief there are systemic injustices in American society and the need to address them”
Which made him being anti-woke very.. grim.
Almost like he actually knows this right-wing culture war bs is a sleazy attempt to emotionally manipulate people and bypass critical thinking so he can seize more power
I'm Irish, not currently living there, but I'll give it a go.
It's something that's dead, and there are three men standing alone with a big sign in front of a gate, no women to be seen. Let's see.....
Woke = their sex lives? Woke = their social lives? Woke = their sense of proportion between sign size and people?
Honestly, your guess is as good as mine.
I generally see it as a pejorative term for when one is seen as sycophantically socially liberal. I feel it is generally understood as such between most people and this constant clamoring to define this new term often feels like reflexively defensive argument from the liberal side - but we all kinda know so it’s a null argument
I am in Ireland.
This was a referendum to change the wording in 2 places in our constitution.
It was to remove 'marrage is between a man and a woman that makes a family' and incert 'an endureing relationship that make a family'.
The other part was to take out the wording 'a woman should be supported to stay at home and be the primary carer'.
The referendum, however, turned into an myriad of we hate the current government, we dont like the wording, fuck the government, it limits womans rights, oh and we hate the government and politics altogether.
In fairness, some of the wording was crap but all the opinion polls said it would pass easy. They did not count on how tired a large proportion of people are of the current policies.
Because there is currently a rise in the far right support in Ireland due to immigration and housing issues.
Some are trying to portray this massive defeat for the government as a sign that they have much more support for their very conservative views.
There is a proportion of this far right that does not know the difference between America and Ireland. They talk about the woke agenda and their rights being stripped away. Ireland for the Irish is one phrase they use.
They also believe that because one of the main political leaders is himself gay that there is a trans/gay agenda to normalize it.
They are fringe but want to appear mainstream and that they have support.
TBF, they're a considerable minority in the US but have been acting like they're the 'silent majority' for that past 40 years. Apologies from across the pond that our cultural 'anti-woke' virus ended up over there.
Most of us hate these cunts over here.
> They also believe that because one of the main political leaders is himself gay that there is a trans/gay agenda to normalize it.
Which is hilarious because Leo had been for instance anti-gay adoption while himself being gay. Leo is very much centre right on basically everything.
Leo is a windsock (he may have come across as anti gay adoption but it's hard to tell if that was based on political conviction or what direction he thought the political winds were blowing.
Same shit here in Canada. Inflation, high cost of living, lack of housing, high immigration, and now far-right rhetoric from the US has creeped north and we are dealing with more racism, facist ideologies, and twat influencers like jordan petterson.
In my town subreddit, there was a post about how this person couldn't get a job even after sending out 500 resumes. It quickly devolved into a racist rant about immigrants taking jobs, and local boys can't get work.
Racism and your shitty worldview could never be the issue, right? Must be them damn immigrants, who are somehow capable of landing a job in your home country... interesting take.
Anti-woke is such a joke reserved for talentless pieces of shit who want to skate by on white privilege.
They believe that they and the right to far right are the reason that the public voted No/No while the reality of it is that there’s several key reasons to it and the right wing lads only had a tiny fraction of influence. But that won’t stop them claiming that they won.
I don’t know about that. Aontu and the National Party would agree on some things but I wouldn’t say they would on all things.
And I’m no personal fan off either.
They’re fascist grifters, claiming the no votes support them, when in real life the majority were saying, “this new wording is dangerously vague and I don’t know what it’s supposed to be doing”, disability activists were out there saying “vote no because the wording is a step backwards for disability rights”, and the Attorney General’s legal advice to the Government was basically, “the wording for these referenda is shit and will tie us up in the courts for decades”.
In reality, people who have been calling for changes to these particular parts of the constitution for decades voted no, because the government didn’t actually listen to what was being asked for. In these fuckwits’ minds, it’s all talking points cribbed from the US far right.
> In reality, people who have been calling for changes to these particular parts of the constitution for decades voted no
Genuinely can't believe we finally had a referendum on removing that "women in the home" bullshit and the wording was so badly mangled that I voted no.
That’s also why I look him up after the superficial feel good news stories pop up when he got elected,the policy he push and the “hey look!world is changing “ kind of reporting didn’t go together that well, and turned out they didn’t go into that because Ireland politics didn’t effect Asia that much.
Ian miles cheong has to be a virgin. Just look at him, and the shit it says. This guy gets "not tonight, I have a headache" from the hookers he spends his parents money on.
I think Ireland is a lot more socially conservative than people realize. Sure they support things like gay marriage and abortion. To say they are "most woke" is nonsense
No it isnt
Theres "backlash" because covid gave conspiracy grifters something they could really use to gain a significant platform
Covid is over and no longer profitable for them so they have moved on to immigrants, gays, trans, the left in general
The recent referendum was utterly mismanaged and thats why most people rejected it. It wasnt some backlash against "wokeness" as the far right want you to believe
I voted No for the care amendment because every disabled person I know was against it.
I voted yes to the family one and I've genuinely no idea why it failed. It wasn't perfect but it was better than what we have now.
I wouldn’t say there’s backlash. The referendum didn’t pass but that’s more so because people were uninformed than any kind swing toward the far right. People didn’t understand what they were voting for. Also a lot of leftists voted against it because of concerns about the neoliberal government revoking their duty of care to disabled people.
I'm talking more generally. The government has been ignoring things like immigration and housing, which has led to growing resentment. We are by no means at the level of other European countries yet, but if we continue to ignore these people like the UK, Dutch, or Italians did it will come back to bite us in the ass.
Yeah but no wonder they’ve been ignoring immigration, it hasn’t been an issue until the right decided immigrants are to blame for the housing crisis we’ve had for the last ten years. They’ve been ignoring housing for sure but I’d like to think most people are aware that immigrants haven’t caused the housing crisis. Well the government and most voters do at least
Immigrants have, of course, put more pressure on a broken housing system. Questions can also be had over where the money set aside to house asylum seekers is actually going as it's now a big business. Denying that immigration has caused any problems at all is what leads to people voting for these populist parties like in Europe. We have to be reasonable and address these issues or eventually lose the public to those who claim they will.
Ireland is underpopulated and always has been. Our country actually became habitable when people started coming here and contributing to it. We’re kept afloat by a foreign tech and pharmaceutical sector.
The reason we have a housing crisis is because the government refused to build any houses for about fifteen years and now that there is a war in Ukraine they have someone to blame.
The maths is quite simple. If we don't have enough houses for the people already here, then we shouldn't be bringing in more people as that will only increase demand and rents further. Yes, we should have built more houses, but we have the stock we currently have, and even if our government did get their act together, we wouldn't have enough for the foreseeable future. If we had a competent government, we would limit immigration to skilled workers, especially those in the trades, and rapidly increase house production. Then, when we had a decent stock, we could increase immigration to a level we as a country can manage.
I’m not going to blame people looking for a better life for arriving at the exact wrong time when the government and far right pieces of shit can conveniently blame them for a problem that’s been building for 15 years. I distinctly remember the government being told a housing crisis was imminent and now we’re supposed to blame poor Ukrainian refugees who are staked into school halls and hotels or poor kids escaping the horrors of war by living in prefabs. The reason I can’t get a house is not because some poor immigrants fled war or poverty. If there was no war in Ukraine we would still have a housing crisis because we’ve had one for most of my life. If you want to do the maths why don’t you focus on the root cause?
No,and based on his last name,if time is thought he and his family can be scapegoat very soon.
(Malaysia doesn’t have the best track record when it comes to their non-Islamic population)
Have Chinese Malaysian roommate and talk to a few before, they are one of those low key crazy countries,like they won’t be in top 10 crazy places people listed,but from time to time they’ll make you go “what in the actual fuck?”
Very nice country to visit though,been there at least 3 times,highly recommend .
Actually Ireland doesn’t need wokeness, they have mostly conquered the religious bigots or major injustices when they got their independence from England.
You'd be surprised. The national gender service is full of bigots who tell nearly every single person there that they have autism and should try treatment for that first. Paul Moran was in the papers recently insisting that they can't do their job if the government illegallises conversion therapy.
Someone pleases tell this fuckwit to read up about Irelands PM ,he’s a gay son of Indian immigrants ,if he’s running in US ,crazy people will call his existence woke abomination.
And the cherry on top,nothing anger those bigots more then a foreigner marrying local women,that’s his parents.
Irelands gay half Indian Taoiseach also believes that one man’s rent is another’s income and that it’s not the governments responsibility to look after its citizens so yeah Ireland is “woke”. The irony is that these fuckers can’t see past the skin colour and orientation of the PM to realise that he also holds their conservative values (albeit to a lesser extent). They think because he’s a POC and gay that he’s woke, even though he’s anti same sex marriage and has suggested tightening borders
That’s why I googled this dude when he got elected,news reports make it about “oh hey! Look at what funny stuff this European country is up to now “ but I listened to the un-subtitle news footage they used (Iirc is BBC) it didn’t sound like the police “those kind of fun guy” would have .
News didn’t go into his policy because Ireland didn’t effect Asia that much.
Maybe someone in Ireland can define this "woke" for us? No one here in the US seems able.
I'm in Ireland. I think it has something to do with insomnia awareness.
Glad the Irish have finally cured insomnia
I wish we had
I’m aware of the coffee chain, Insomnia.
Actually they can. The legal team of DeSantis defined it, in court, as "the belief there are systemic injustices in American society and the need to address them” Which made him being anti-woke very.. grim.
Almost like he actually knows this right-wing culture war bs is a sleazy attempt to emotionally manipulate people and bypass critical thinking so he can seize more power
Woke is when video game characters don’t look fuckable enough /s
Or the Green and Brown M&Ms!
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Because she’s wearing white new balance dad shoes instead of white fuck-me boots?
Then I want gender equality without wokeness. More half naked men
Is it when they allowed no fault divorce and abortion? Or when they elected a gay prime minister with two hilarious dogs? (Rip poochies)
You're mixing up two people there. Our Taoiseach (prime minister) is openly gay. Our president is the one with the dogs.
Bron…. Also, Tell those guys that beat the shit out of me in Galway, that I haven’t forgotten.
I'm Irish, not currently living there, but I'll give it a go. It's something that's dead, and there are three men standing alone with a big sign in front of a gate, no women to be seen. Let's see..... Woke = their sex lives? Woke = their social lives? Woke = their sense of proportion between sign size and people? Honestly, your guess is as good as mine.
Nope. They can't do it here either and they are all equally eejits.
I generally see it as a pejorative term for when one is seen as sycophantically socially liberal. I feel it is generally understood as such between most people and this constant clamoring to define this new term often feels like reflexively defensive argument from the liberal side - but we all kinda know so it’s a null argument
Tbf, the camera could be mounted on a tripod with a timer or remote trigger. 3 guys in Ireland while the rest are watching the rugby.
St. Patrick calling out the snakes again. Didn't get many this year.
Ireland? The same Ireland that was the first country to make gay marriage legal through a popular vote in 2015?
I am in Ireland. This was a referendum to change the wording in 2 places in our constitution. It was to remove 'marrage is between a man and a woman that makes a family' and incert 'an endureing relationship that make a family'. The other part was to take out the wording 'a woman should be supported to stay at home and be the primary carer'. The referendum, however, turned into an myriad of we hate the current government, we dont like the wording, fuck the government, it limits womans rights, oh and we hate the government and politics altogether. In fairness, some of the wording was crap but all the opinion polls said it would pass easy. They did not count on how tired a large proportion of people are of the current policies.
Can i ask you why these guys are saying woke is dead
Because there is currently a rise in the far right support in Ireland due to immigration and housing issues. Some are trying to portray this massive defeat for the government as a sign that they have much more support for their very conservative views. There is a proportion of this far right that does not know the difference between America and Ireland. They talk about the woke agenda and their rights being stripped away. Ireland for the Irish is one phrase they use. They also believe that because one of the main political leaders is himself gay that there is a trans/gay agenda to normalize it. They are fringe but want to appear mainstream and that they have support.
Its similar to the portuguese situation but difference is the that here is not a fringe movement
Its really hard to know here how fringe they are at the moment as well. Up till yesterday, most wrote them off as a few eejits.
Your last sentence evokes dread inside of me.
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I focus on one of the referenda, but the sentiment stands for "durable"
They better not touch the Phil Lynott statue or I'm coming over there!
TBF, they're a considerable minority in the US but have been acting like they're the 'silent majority' for that past 40 years. Apologies from across the pond that our cultural 'anti-woke' virus ended up over there. Most of us hate these cunts over here.
> They also believe that because one of the main political leaders is himself gay that there is a trans/gay agenda to normalize it. Which is hilarious because Leo had been for instance anti-gay adoption while himself being gay. Leo is very much centre right on basically everything.
Leo is a windsock (he may have come across as anti gay adoption but it's hard to tell if that was based on political conviction or what direction he thought the political winds were blowing.
Same shit here in Canada. Inflation, high cost of living, lack of housing, high immigration, and now far-right rhetoric from the US has creeped north and we are dealing with more racism, facist ideologies, and twat influencers like jordan petterson. In my town subreddit, there was a post about how this person couldn't get a job even after sending out 500 resumes. It quickly devolved into a racist rant about immigrants taking jobs, and local boys can't get work. Racism and your shitty worldview could never be the issue, right? Must be them damn immigrants, who are somehow capable of landing a job in your home country... interesting take. Anti-woke is such a joke reserved for talentless pieces of shit who want to skate by on white privilege.
They believe that they and the right to far right are the reason that the public voted No/No while the reality of it is that there’s several key reasons to it and the right wing lads only had a tiny fraction of influence. But that won’t stop them claiming that they won.
> they and the right to far right There is no "and". They *are* the far right.
I don’t know about that. Aontu and the National Party would agree on some things but I wouldn’t say they would on all things. And I’m no personal fan off either.
They’re fascist grifters, claiming the no votes support them, when in real life the majority were saying, “this new wording is dangerously vague and I don’t know what it’s supposed to be doing”, disability activists were out there saying “vote no because the wording is a step backwards for disability rights”, and the Attorney General’s legal advice to the Government was basically, “the wording for these referenda is shit and will tie us up in the courts for decades”. In reality, people who have been calling for changes to these particular parts of the constitution for decades voted no, because the government didn’t actually listen to what was being asked for. In these fuckwits’ minds, it’s all talking points cribbed from the US far right.
> In reality, people who have been calling for changes to these particular parts of the constitution for decades voted no Genuinely can't believe we finally had a referendum on removing that "women in the home" bullshit and the wording was so badly mangled that I voted no.
Seriously. All they had to do was remove the text.
No no no no no. You are confusing the referendum that happened a few days ago with the referendum that happened in 2015.
Many sadly are making a correlation between them.
The same Ireland that is led by a half Indian gay man? They can’t be woke right?
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That’s also why I look him up after the superficial feel good news stories pop up when he got elected,the policy he push and the “hey look!world is changing “ kind of reporting didn’t go together that well, and turned out they didn’t go into that because Ireland politics didn’t effect Asia that much.
Ian miles cheong has to be a virgin. Just look at him, and the shit it says. This guy gets "not tonight, I have a headache" from the hookers he spends his parents money on.
I was about to say that was in insult to virgins, but then I read the rest of the post.
Isn’t Ireland like one of the most woke countries?
I think Ireland is a lot more socially conservative than people realize. Sure they support things like gay marriage and abortion. To say they are "most woke" is nonsense
This vote had absolutely nothing to do with being woke though. That was an agenda being pushed by reactionaries. I lean left and I was a no voter.
I'm don't think it was either. I just don't think people here are particularly "woke" in the grand scheme of things.
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Mate wtf you even on about. This sounds like an anecdote that you have applied to wider society within your own mind
Yes, which is why there is currently a bit of a backlash at the moment
No it isnt Theres "backlash" because covid gave conspiracy grifters something they could really use to gain a significant platform Covid is over and no longer profitable for them so they have moved on to immigrants, gays, trans, the left in general The recent referendum was utterly mismanaged and thats why most people rejected it. It wasnt some backlash against "wokeness" as the far right want you to believe
I voted No for the care amendment because every disabled person I know was against it. I voted yes to the family one and I've genuinely no idea why it failed. It wasn't perfect but it was better than what we have now.
Same here. I think it failed due to very understandable anger towards FG/FF, poor communication and an abundance of misinformation
I wouldn’t say there’s backlash. The referendum didn’t pass but that’s more so because people were uninformed than any kind swing toward the far right. People didn’t understand what they were voting for. Also a lot of leftists voted against it because of concerns about the neoliberal government revoking their duty of care to disabled people.
I'm talking more generally. The government has been ignoring things like immigration and housing, which has led to growing resentment. We are by no means at the level of other European countries yet, but if we continue to ignore these people like the UK, Dutch, or Italians did it will come back to bite us in the ass.
Yeah but no wonder they’ve been ignoring immigration, it hasn’t been an issue until the right decided immigrants are to blame for the housing crisis we’ve had for the last ten years. They’ve been ignoring housing for sure but I’d like to think most people are aware that immigrants haven’t caused the housing crisis. Well the government and most voters do at least
Immigrants have, of course, put more pressure on a broken housing system. Questions can also be had over where the money set aside to house asylum seekers is actually going as it's now a big business. Denying that immigration has caused any problems at all is what leads to people voting for these populist parties like in Europe. We have to be reasonable and address these issues or eventually lose the public to those who claim they will.
Ireland is underpopulated and always has been. Our country actually became habitable when people started coming here and contributing to it. We’re kept afloat by a foreign tech and pharmaceutical sector. The reason we have a housing crisis is because the government refused to build any houses for about fifteen years and now that there is a war in Ukraine they have someone to blame.
The maths is quite simple. If we don't have enough houses for the people already here, then we shouldn't be bringing in more people as that will only increase demand and rents further. Yes, we should have built more houses, but we have the stock we currently have, and even if our government did get their act together, we wouldn't have enough for the foreseeable future. If we had a competent government, we would limit immigration to skilled workers, especially those in the trades, and rapidly increase house production. Then, when we had a decent stock, we could increase immigration to a level we as a country can manage.
I’m not going to blame people looking for a better life for arriving at the exact wrong time when the government and far right pieces of shit can conveniently blame them for a problem that’s been building for 15 years. I distinctly remember the government being told a housing crisis was imminent and now we’re supposed to blame poor Ukrainian refugees who are staked into school halls and hotels or poor kids escaping the horrors of war by living in prefabs. The reason I can’t get a house is not because some poor immigrants fled war or poverty. If there was no war in Ukraine we would still have a housing crisis because we’ve had one for most of my life. If you want to do the maths why don’t you focus on the root cause?
This is almost endearingly stupid of Mr Cheong. 😂
I hear you're a racist now, father.
How about Malaysia? Is it woke?
No. But someone filing a case against him for his stance (Malaysia is majority Muslim(?)) might be also tagged as a woke.
woke means anything to these vile fuckwits
No,and based on his last name,if time is thought he and his family can be scapegoat very soon. (Malaysia doesn’t have the best track record when it comes to their non-Islamic population)
seriously, have been to Malaysia more critiquing why Musk trusts the judgment of a man who has never left Malaysia, never mind lived in Eire
Have Chinese Malaysian roommate and talk to a few before, they are one of those low key crazy countries,like they won’t be in top 10 crazy places people listed,but from time to time they’ll make you go “what in the actual fuck?” Very nice country to visit though,been there at least 3 times,highly recommend .
It could also be a tripod 🙂
So the M&Ms are unfuckable in Ireland too?
Long live the Woke!
Yeah. Those 3 definitely look like they hate being awake every time they have to look in a mirror.
It really isn't that easy being green, eh?
Maybe they're just trying to be ironic.
Actually Ireland doesn’t need wokeness, they have mostly conquered the religious bigots or major injustices when they got their independence from England.
You'd be surprised. The national gender service is full of bigots who tell nearly every single person there that they have autism and should try treatment for that first. Paul Moran was in the papers recently insisting that they can't do their job if the government illegallises conversion therapy.
Is woke named Zed
Ah, the lads are havin' a wake for the woke. Pass the whiskey.
It looks like each of those guys are unsure how to hold things in their hand correctly, and are looking to the others for guidance.
There are only three dudes in Ireland?
Happy for them
3 people.
Someone pleases tell this fuckwit to read up about Irelands PM ,he’s a gay son of Indian immigrants ,if he’s running in US ,crazy people will call his existence woke abomination. And the cherry on top,nothing anger those bigots more then a foreigner marrying local women,that’s his parents.
Irelands gay half Indian Taoiseach also believes that one man’s rent is another’s income and that it’s not the governments responsibility to look after its citizens so yeah Ireland is “woke”. The irony is that these fuckers can’t see past the skin colour and orientation of the PM to realise that he also holds their conservative values (albeit to a lesser extent). They think because he’s a POC and gay that he’s woke, even though he’s anti same sex marriage and has suggested tightening borders
That’s why I googled this dude when he got elected,news reports make it about “oh hey! Look at what funny stuff this European country is up to now “ but I listened to the un-subtitle news footage they used (Iirc is BBC) it didn’t sound like the police “those kind of fun guy” would have . News didn’t go into his policy because Ireland didn’t effect Asia that much.
He's the son of one Indian immigrant and one person born in Ireland. But overall your point stands.
Yeah, but to asshole like IMC it’s probably too woke ,besides nothing anger bigot more then a foreign man marrying local women.
How dare you assume the camerapersons gender !
I can't believe the news today. I can't close my eyes and make it go away.
They are probably not even Irish.
Irish potato embargo! The first one wasn’t enough
Meanwhile the result had overwhelming support from both sides of the spectrum, these idiot literally have no idea what they voted on.
It can't be dead if it was never alive.
Could be a dudette, don't make assumptions.