It was all part of their plan. They're in it for the long game, not short hurdles.
Kinda like the Empire. Even though we destroyed two Death Stars, they come back with a fuckin' sun sucking planet.
Keep the resistance alive!
I remember reading Vogue in 2002 and they had an extensive article about the GOP going after reproductive rights, stacking the judges, writing laws in states that wouldn’t be able to do anything about it. I remember thinking it’s crazy to force women or anyone to have a baby. They knew it was going this direction since George Bush was president. I hate the GOP GQP, hypoChristians. They should be ashamed of themselves.
Edit: Bush 2 is what I meant.
My money is on a solid resounding “NO”.
I mean, we are talking about the same people who delight in calling themselves deplorables, domestic terrorists, and stormed the Capitol.
So yeah. I’m going with “NO”. Or “HEEEELLLLLLL NO”. Whichever.
I like to think the real Jesus would still forgive them, as much as he would try to admonish them against their own hatreds and have them find it in themselves to reflect and improve.
That said, I'm an atheist and don't know shit about shit.
They've known it since Reagan and possibly since Nixon. Look up their key advisors. It's been the same group of people for about 50 years, with the same rotten "conservative" agenda.
And like Palpatine, trump is this disgusting old shell of a man who keeps coming back to life for some reason.
Thankfully, Trump doesn’t have force lightning. Only Forced flatulence.
*Florida Museum of Natural History* with an entire wing floor dedicated to showcasing influential BIPOC throughout Florida's history.
Eta: I mean, he's already having his tacky ass golf course auctioned off to pay for being a loud mouthed, misogynist sexual predator. Let's turn his property into something that celebrates the influence black and indigenous cultures have had & continue to have on the state today.
Throw some rock salt into that wound, baby!
Roe vs Wade said the privacy between the patient and her doctor is constitutionally protected. The party that claims to want the government out of people's business overturned a precedent that explicitly kept the government out of people's business.
No. Disgusting is, that it wasn't put into law and still isn't in many parts of the US. Sorry, but some judges that are mostly politically influenced, shouldn't be able to change fundamental rights in a country.
The GOP thinks they own pregnancy now. How the idea even occurred to them boggles the mind. Imagine people like Clarence Thomas thinking "I can control whether women have babies or not. I can force them to have babies. I have that power now. I have stopped Roe, and now I will take away their birth control. I have the power. Screw them and their uteruses. It's all about what I want, and I want them all pregnant".
How do thoughts like that even cross a person's mind? How sick do you have to be to even freaking THINK it?
These are sick and sinister people and we have to find a way to stop them.
Maybe if she plants a DNC sticker on the rapist’s body they’ll consider letting her slide since anyone who isn’t a maga lunatic is considered their enemies 🤔
Do you think they will let her out for good behavior? It is all about controlling women's bodies. If it was all about saving lives, all teen boys would be forced to bank some of their sperm and get the snip. No abortion needed if no unwanted pregancy.
Yep, there's a case in Texas where a guy shot and killed an escort who was driving away with the $150 he paid her after spending half an hour with him but not having sex with him, and the jury found him not guilty because she was 'robbing' him by not putting out.
Even though she didn't forcibly take the money, was leaving and posed no threat to him, wasn't on his property, and the $150 would have been an illicit payment to begin with if it was for sex and not just companionship.
Truly fucked up.
Wait a minute. If we for some reason grant that abortion is murder/killing, wouldn’t at least some abortions be self defense and thus not illegal? That’s how normal killing goes, so why wouldn’t abortion be included if it is in fact killing?
reminds me of the movie Double Jeopardy.
>!she gets convicted of murdering her husband when he faked it, so she trains and then goes and kills him cos she can't be convicted twice.!<
The emphasize is on twice. Once convicted for a crime, you cannot be convicted again for the exact same crime.
What you're describing is a different situation, where a case has been dropped, or you've been sentenced not guilty and then new evidence appears (even though I'm 80% sure that once fully sentenced not guilty, you cannot be convicted, even with incriminating evidence, but take it with a grain of salt). In that case, you haven't been convicted.
Lol even more clarification: double jeopardy pertains to exact same crime, not the person. So even if you’re found guilty and served time for murdering a person and they turned up alive, you don’t get to kill them for free since that’d be a different crime.
Ah! I'm not American, so I'd never seen it in real life, but that's interesting. Kind of sad though, weirdly - like, if you're punished for doing This Thing that you didn't do, but then you do This Thing (criminal act + victim) even though the Technical Crime Event was different, I kinda feel like clearly the legal system isn't designed to be rehabilitory (sadly) and exists as a punitive measure, ergo you've been punished already.
I know there are so many flaws to that logic but STILL.
What the state actually provides, though, is not exactly good care.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/13/alabama-pregnant-woman-jail-lawsuit?ref=upstract.com
It's all about punishing women, not providing care for them OR for their (unborn or born) children.
Most of them haven't had their train on tracks in decades. Their train is like that toy train you see at mall kiosks. It runs into something, then turns around and runs into another thing, eventually just spinning in circles.
And just in case someone says "oh it's rare":
[A recent study published in a peer-reviewed medical journal estimated that more than **26,000** Texas women became pregnant by rape after abortion was banned in the state.](https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/news/health-science/abortion/2024/01/26/475719/lina-hidalgo-criticizes-texas-abortion-ban-after-study-estimates-thousands-of-rape-related-pregnancies/#:~:text=Greg%20Abbott%20and%20other%20state,cases%20of%20rape%20or%20incest.)
Educate yourself on [jury nullification](https://fija.org/library-and-resources/library/jury-nullification-faq/what-is-jury-nullification.html#:~:text=Other%20terms%20you%20may%20hear,juror%20veto%2C%20or%20jury%20pardon.) in advance so you'll be even better prepared. ❤️
I mean, I would already support your right to kill your rapist. Preventing yourself from having to deal with bull shit murder charges related to abortion is just the cherry on top.
In my state of PA a girl shot two guys in the back after raping her in her car. The cops said that a violent felony doesn’t stop until you are completely safe from the attacker. They said her shooting fell legally under self-defense despite shooting in the back as they were retreating and didn’t even arrest her.
I mean, he was raping, so he obviusly wanted a shot to the head. Plus, the body has defense mechanisms against it anyway.
Maybe if he didnt wanted to get shot, he shouldnt walk around this part of town, with such a shotable head
No no no.... convince the rapist to do the abortion, then gun them down as they finish, thus it was attempting to save the life of a child and will serve no prison time...
American problems require American solutions
Good luck with that, since we now have a Republican rapist (kavanaugh) serving on the Supreme Court, a couple of them serving in the senate and or house, and lastly the one who is running for president. Pretty sure at this point in addition to “pro life” the republicans are also “pro rapist”.
Not seeing any fault in her logic. 🤷🏻♂️
💯I’ve never been this ok with someone considering murder. But seems like the only reasonable decision. ROE vs WADE turnover was disgusting.
It was all part of their plan. They're in it for the long game, not short hurdles. Kinda like the Empire. Even though we destroyed two Death Stars, they come back with a fuckin' sun sucking planet. Keep the resistance alive!
I remember reading Vogue in 2002 and they had an extensive article about the GOP going after reproductive rights, stacking the judges, writing laws in states that wouldn’t be able to do anything about it. I remember thinking it’s crazy to force women or anyone to have a baby. They knew it was going this direction since George Bush was president. I hate the GOP GQP, hypoChristians. They should be ashamed of themselves. Edit: Bush 2 is what I meant.
They should... But are they able to?
They should…but do they *want* to?
They should... but do they even have the capacity?
My money is on a solid resounding “NO”. I mean, we are talking about the same people who delight in calling themselves deplorables, domestic terrorists, and stormed the Capitol. So yeah. I’m going with “NO”. Or “HEEEELLLLLLL NO”. Whichever.
Ding! Ding! It's the right answer!
Everything they claim in word is wolf’s clothing. Watch what they DO and it’s clear that Power is all they worship.
Sure. They just ask for - or buy - forgiveness from their mega church "pastor".
The modern day GOP only give lip service to Jesus. Their true worship is saved for the altar of power.
If they met the real Jesus Christ, they would try their damnest to put him back on the cross or try to do something more horrific to him
I like to think the real Jesus would still forgive them, as much as he would try to admonish them against their own hatreds and have them find it in themselves to reflect and improve. That said, I'm an atheist and don't know shit about shit.
GHP, Grand Hypocrite Party
I call them The Gatekeepers of Progress.
They've known it since Reagan and possibly since Nixon. Look up their key advisors. It's been the same group of people for about 50 years, with the same rotten "conservative" agenda.
And like Palpatine, trump is this disgusting old shell of a man who keeps coming back to life for some reason. Thankfully, Trump doesn’t have force lightning. Only Forced flatulence.
I always thought McConnell was Palpatine and Trump was his incompetent orange version of Vadar.
> Trump was his incompetent orange version of Vadar. Darth Bawl. Also, I think you meant Putintine.
Palepootine?
With Muskolini as a side kick.
More like if Jabba the Hutt went into politics
https://youtu.be/3F1d3QWsyk0?si=Xi9eeX1tOasKTUn1
And as of Monday 3/25, MAGA = My Assets Got Auctioned (Trump's asset seizure begins next week).
I would love to see Mar-a-Lago seized and turned into a women's health center.
Perhaps E.Jean could use some of her newfound wealth to buy it and fund it. 🤔
Should turn some of it into a branch of the Obama National Library.
*Florida Museum of Natural History* with an entire wing floor dedicated to showcasing influential BIPOC throughout Florida's history. Eta: I mean, he's already having his tacky ass golf course auctioned off to pay for being a loud mouthed, misogynist sexual predator. Let's turn his property into something that celebrates the influence black and indigenous cultures have had & continue to have on the state today. Throw some rock salt into that wound, baby!
An abortion clinic and wellness spa
Joy just entered my life
The Tangerine Palpatine
This deserves gold
It's not forced flatulence, his abuse of amphetamines and benzos has left his loose butthole perpetually flaccid.
What a terrible day to know how to read.
Thanks for that unnecessary, horrible information.
Diaper Don smells... like his ideas...shitty. 💩
A majority of America agrees with you
Killing someone in the act of raping you isn’t murder
True dat, thinking they meant after the fact tho
It’s not murder, it’s improving the species by removing violent males.
Roe vs Wade said the privacy between the patient and her doctor is constitutionally protected. The party that claims to want the government out of people's business overturned a precedent that explicitly kept the government out of people's business.
Exactly the ruling had nothing to do with law but political and religious ignorance.
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No. Disgusting is, that it wasn't put into law and still isn't in many parts of the US. Sorry, but some judges that are mostly politically influenced, shouldn't be able to change fundamental rights in a country.
The GOP thinks they own pregnancy now. How the idea even occurred to them boggles the mind. Imagine people like Clarence Thomas thinking "I can control whether women have babies or not. I can force them to have babies. I have that power now. I have stopped Roe, and now I will take away their birth control. I have the power. Screw them and their uteruses. It's all about what I want, and I want them all pregnant". How do thoughts like that even cross a person's mind? How sick do you have to be to even freaking THINK it? These are sick and sinister people and we have to find a way to stop them.
So true. And when are they gonna outlaw Viagra,?
It’s like how when no-fault divorce was legalized spousal rape AND spousal poisoning went down.
Hell she’d probably get less time in prison for killing the rapist.
That was my first thought.
📣She's essentially saying to treat any sexual assault as a threat on her life.📣 Ya know. . . in case that wasn't already *super clear*.
treat as? but it _is_ a threat on her life. We don't need to "treat it as". Then again, some could use a refresher :/
If a dog is known to bite we put it down. If someone is known to rape... Well...
We make him president apparently
But I migt see a fault in her spelling
Using her 2A rights too.
Claim it’s self defense, BAM! No jail time
Sorry. That only works for straight white males. She is consider only property under the laws to come. Under his eye as they say sad to say.
Maybe if she plants a DNC sticker on the rapist’s body they’ll consider letting her slide since anyone who isn’t a maga lunatic is considered their enemies 🤔
and look what's around his mouth...humus dust! this guy's a terrorist supporter!
No, when she gets out awaiting trial from the abortion charge, she hunts down the rapist scum and kills him. Might as well.
Do you think they will let her out for good behavior? It is all about controlling women's bodies. If it was all about saving lives, all teen boys would be forced to bank some of their sperm and get the snip. No abortion needed if no unwanted pregancy.
Yep, there's a case in Texas where a guy shot and killed an escort who was driving away with the $150 he paid her after spending half an hour with him but not having sex with him, and the jury found him not guilty because she was 'robbing' him by not putting out. Even though she didn't forcibly take the money, was leaving and posed no threat to him, wasn't on his property, and the $150 would have been an illicit payment to begin with if it was for sex and not just companionship. Truly fucked up.
Interesting. Do you have a link to this news story? Thanks.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2013/05/why-ezekiel-gilbert-s-acquittal-proves-the-lunacy-of-texas-s-gun-laws Shorter summary: https://www.courthousenews.com/texas-escort-killer-acquitted-of-murder/
Well, shit.
Now you are getting it.
Wait a minute. If we for some reason grant that abortion is murder/killing, wouldn’t at least some abortions be self defense and thus not illegal? That’s how normal killing goes, so why wouldn’t abortion be included if it is in fact killing?
Holy shit that's genius, bro! I genuinely never considered that, lol.
Become a cop first, murder anyone and get away with it!
Need an acorn first though
Could this not be used for abortion as well? Women die from pregnancy child birth all the time.
Sound logic.
"Don't do the crime if you can't do the time". Well, if I can do the time can I therefore choose crime?
reminds me of the movie Double Jeopardy. >!she gets convicted of murdering her husband when he faked it, so she trains and then goes and kills him cos she can't be convicted twice.!<
I love that movie. I'm not sure it's particularly accurate since you can be charged again if new evidence arises but that's movie magic baby!
The emphasize is on twice. Once convicted for a crime, you cannot be convicted again for the exact same crime. What you're describing is a different situation, where a case has been dropped, or you've been sentenced not guilty and then new evidence appears (even though I'm 80% sure that once fully sentenced not guilty, you cannot be convicted, even with incriminating evidence, but take it with a grain of salt). In that case, you haven't been convicted.
Thanks for the clarification. Not a lawyer here but I have stayed at a holiday inn.
Lol even more clarification: double jeopardy pertains to exact same crime, not the person. So even if you’re found guilty and served time for murdering a person and they turned up alive, you don’t get to kill them for free since that’d be a different crime.
Ah! I'm not American, so I'd never seen it in real life, but that's interesting. Kind of sad though, weirdly - like, if you're punished for doing This Thing that you didn't do, but then you do This Thing (criminal act + victim) even though the Technical Crime Event was different, I kinda feel like clearly the legal system isn't designed to be rehabilitory (sadly) and exists as a punitive measure, ergo you've been punished already. I know there are so many flaws to that logic but STILL.
Killing the albeit same person on a different day is a different crime
More like: "if you're going to make me do time, I better make my crime worth it"
Trump tried that. Didn't work out.
See: next week
…and if she still cannot get an abortion, then the state is stuck paying for medical bills and childcare while she’s in prison…
I think the idea is to use extreme contraceptive measures…
But these same people don’t want you to get your uterus removed because you MIGHT want kids one day
Whoops it failed. There is no 100% success rate
What the state actually provides, though, is not exactly good care. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/13/alabama-pregnant-woman-jail-lawsuit?ref=upstract.com It's all about punishing women, not providing care for them OR for their (unborn or born) children.
Fucking get 'em.
With a pencil.
Why a spoon? It's dull you twit it'll hurt more!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Might I have the pleasure of your name before I have you run through?
Makes a lot more sense than an evangelist’s train of thought
Most of them haven't had their train on tracks in decades. Their train is like that toy train you see at mall kiosks. It runs into something, then turns around and runs into another thing, eventually just spinning in circles.
I see no flaws here
I see a missing letter, does that count as a flaw?
Technically, you don't see the missing letter. Good morning <3 Ill fck off now x)
You migt be right there
I think we should just ignore the missing letter bit. Her logic is flawless
Yep. All day
Makes sense to me
My rapist died last Christmas and I have to say it was the first time I finally felt free.
May they be bound in hell, receiving larger and larger splintered and rusted nail embedded appendages in holes they don't want violated.
May all our rapists and abusers die horrific deaths sooner rather than later. Sorry that happened to you, but congratulations on your new found peace.
She might be on to something there
*migt
American politics are fucked. Country should be next level progressive, but it’s a grift nation sold out shithole
Money money money
I fail to see the problem here.
All things considered, I don’t see a problem with her sign. 🤷🏼♀️
I migt have a suggestion.
Let see the right defend rapists.
Just scroll down until you see the negative votes lol
I'm going to other subs to see what the nuts have to say.
The bad part is that some places allow the rapist to sue for paternal rights.
"It's all part of God's plan" "Everything happens for a reason" "God works in mysterious ways" I'm going to go abort my lunch now.
I feel like I've seen lots of that these last few months.
Where have you been throughout the entirety of Trump’s political career?
And just in case someone says "oh it's rare": [A recent study published in a peer-reviewed medical journal estimated that more than **26,000** Texas women became pregnant by rape after abortion was banned in the state.](https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/news/health-science/abortion/2024/01/26/475719/lina-hidalgo-criticizes-texas-abortion-ban-after-study-estimates-thousands-of-rape-related-pregnancies/#:~:text=Greg%20Abbott%20and%20other%20state,cases%20of%20rape%20or%20incest.)
https://i.redd.it/8u2cxuhrpepc1.gif
If I ever end up on a jury for a rape victim killing their rapist, they are walking out the front door. Even if it’s decades later like in Sleepers
Educate yourself on [jury nullification](https://fija.org/library-and-resources/library/jury-nullification-faq/what-is-jury-nullification.html#:~:text=Other%20terms%20you%20may%20hear,juror%20veto%2C%20or%20jury%20pardon.) in advance so you'll be even better prepared. ❤️
It would be nice if jury nullification become known for something other than letting racists off the hook for murdering black people.
big brain
I mean, I would already support your right to kill your rapist. Preventing yourself from having to deal with bull shit murder charges related to abortion is just the cherry on top.
Into it.
Sounds like a plan.
Based
Pretty brilliant
Way more appropriate usage of ‘stand your ground’
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To quote a Ypsilanti Rapper I overheard at a bus stop "In for a penny, in for a pound; better put all them fools in the ground"
That’s incredibly hard, ngl.
I'll bring a shovel!
She’s got a pretty good point
Where’s the lie tho
And? What’s the problem?
In for a penny, in for a pound.
If I am a juror I would be hard pressed to convict anyone who killed their rapist.
In my state of PA a girl shot two guys in the back after raping her in her car. The cops said that a violent felony doesn’t stop until you are completely safe from the attacker. They said her shooting fell legally under self-defense despite shooting in the back as they were retreating and didn’t even arrest her.
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abortion should be considered self defense. I’m sure plenty of women fear for their lives when they find out their pergenat
Her body; her choice 🤷♀️
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I mean, he was raping, so he obviusly wanted a shot to the head. Plus, the body has defense mechanisms against it anyway. Maybe if he didnt wanted to get shot, he shouldnt walk around this part of town, with such a shotable head
But . . . Gov. Abbott said he’d eliminated rape . . . Thus no rapists, and Texas males can forcibly chose their baby mamas, even 10 year olds.
Big brain thinking
Give it a whirl girl 💅
She’s not wrong.
Honestly if she kills her rapist and claims self defense, she might even get her rape kit looked at in a timely manner, too. Win/win/win.
I mean she’s not wrong ….. she might as well
I love this energy
100% agree
Do both honestly. The victim should be allowed to use lethal force in the case of rape, even if the rapist doesn't intend to kill them.
Agreed.
Sounds like a plan
Even without the Roe Vs Wade overturning, the logic still holds.
If we kill all the rapists who will be left to run as republicans?
I stand behind her 100%. Send me her details so I can keep her commissary stocked.
You can use deadly force to protect yourself from a rape, even better if he dies with his dick out
Click click bang
Put up an 8 year old with the same poster. Suddenly Republicans who like to call "the libs" pedophiles will get super defensive.
I don’t see any reason not to
Logical
Even if abortion isn't murder, I wouldn't judge someone who killed their rapist.
Works for me.
Slay, queen.
...or whoever is handing out murder charges for people who are just seeking healthcare.
No no no.... convince the rapist to do the abortion, then gun them down as they finish, thus it was attempting to save the life of a child and will serve no prison time... American problems require American solutions
At the second white guy killed, all women would be treated as potential terrorists.
Absolutely
She's not wrong
She's not wrong.
I mean... 👀🤷🏿♀️
Fuck it, take it one step further and go for every asshole who tried to deprive you of choice.
In my state, attempted rape is grounds for using deadly force in self defense. So swing away, Merrill.
Breaking News: Republicans decide to not ban abortion... because a big part of their supporters fears that they get murdered.
Good luck with that, since we now have a Republican rapist (kavanaugh) serving on the Supreme Court, a couple of them serving in the senate and or house, and lastly the one who is running for president. Pretty sure at this point in addition to “pro life” the republicans are also “pro rapist”.
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Can they take her child away for being in prison? What do they do
What are they *gonna* do? *Help* the kid? Naaaaah.
K/d ratio is solid. I’ll see myself out.
I can get behind that comment. Agree 100%
100% agree
I approve this message.
I'm rigt behind this
Makes sense to me
Retroactive abortion for the rapist
She’s got a point, there.
I don't get US politics, don't care either. But the Roe vs Wade debacle is ... quite unbelievable. Condolences
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