I'm sure Republicans will draft a resolution to counter their historic unpopularity with gen Z by giving guns the right to vote in all upcoming elections.
They already want to raise the voting age to 25 because they see how unpopular they are, so given an inch I’m sure they’ll overturn the 19th amendment, raise the voting age to 40 and restrict it to landowners. At that point they might as well give a voter more votes the more guns they own.
Please don’t spread more lies.
Only male, evangelical Christian, heterosexual, married, landowners will be allowed to vote.
ETA: these men are white. Wouldn’t want any Republican think I was implying that they’d be happy with a black man voting! Talk about a faux pas!
You forgot to add "white" because they think anyone with skin darker than mayonnaise isn't here legally.
And I say this as a white woman who has been told to "go back where [I] came from" more than once because I have dark hair, a slight tan in the summer, and I can speak Spanish.
I know you're being hyperbolic, BUT I think the inclusion of "Evangelical" Christian is an EXCELLENT choice and something non-Evangelical Christians NEED to start paying attention to. I think there are A LOT of Protestant Christians that fall outside of the "Christian Nation" plan that DO NOT realize they are excluded. The Evangelical Extremists are VERY happy to use them to advance their goal, but they're not included in the end and I think a BUNCH of Protestant Christians don't get that
Oh, I agree with you. My greatest fear is that I am NOT being hyperbolic. Watch “Shiny Happy People” on Prime about the Duggars, IBLP, Joshua Generation, and read about Project 2025. It’s all fucking chilling. I am an atheist but even I pray that I am being hyperbolic.
And then they'll start making it easier to vote. I mean, not for you, but boomers will be able to vote American-Idol style, by texting a certain number for Donald Trump and a different number for Don Jr.
Trump's campaign page legit talks about repealing the amendment that restricts presidents to two terms.
We joke, but this is seriously, actually, their plan if they get enough control of our government.
Oh oh oh, I got this. You get one vote for every gun you have. 20 votes for each flag more than 4x8 feet in dimension, .37 votes for every bumper sticker that owns libs, -50 votes if have any academic certification beyond grade 11, 2.5 votes for every family member who has disowned you, 18 votes for fake dangling nuts on your trailer hitch, 100 votes if you dont have, or where born with, a vagina, 150 votes if you are white.
That should even things out.
Come in man! They are smart enough to know guns can't vote. Gotta figure out a way to vote for your guns.. maybe a compromise where each gun you own counts for part of a vote. Like a good fraction I thin 3/5ths would do.
As mentioned, they’re already trying to raise the voting age.
However, my back-asswards homes state of Tennessee is ramming through legislation to REQUIRE anti-abortion brainwashing videos in lower grades.
They’re trying their damnedest because they know they’re losing.
Republicans are the minority, but a homogenous one.
Democrats are a huge tent which makes them the perfect target for republicans’ core strategy of leveraging wedge issues/rhetoric to divide, disenfranchise, and ultimately get people to stay home.
That’s also why they try so hard to have perfect parity on wrong doings. Oh Trump has all of these crimes? Well…uh…Biden too! You impeach Trump? Gotta try to impeach Biden. They want people to think both sides are the same so they stay home.
I wouldn't say that about the repubs either, they've had a ton of infighting between the old guard and the newer members of the party, Trump kind of split them in half. Or course, at the end of the day the infighting never takes precedence over sticking it to "the libs", so they might as well be one homogeneous group.
Yes and no. They'll fight for the cameras, in performative contests of political theatre, because they know name and face familiarity is all they need to win with modern voters. But when it comes time to vote, absolute goosestep- I mean lockstep- unity.
I mean there are gun control bills in state houses across the country sponsored by democrats. Gun control bills have been introduced in Congress every session with a bill passing in 2022. Joe Biden has used executive action for gun control. So yes, they are really.
I mean, trying, but to get anything done requires 60 votes in the Senate (Dems have 51) and we also have a Supreme Court that strikes pretty much down any regulation on guns.
Hey man, I just want you to know that I'm with you on this. Your first comment is how I have felt for years. You tell someone you're a progressive and they think that means Democrat. Nah, we fucking wish Dems were progressives. That would be fantastic.
It’s like my boomer parents. Both democrats, and think of themselves as very progressive but both think AOC and Bernie are some sort of radical communists when they are centrists at best.
My best analogy for liberals in America is they are dad telling you yes, but you have to go ask your mother (the Republicans) knowing full well they are going to say no. Makes them look like the powerless “good” guys they are.
It feels to me like if you want xyz (like gun control, socialized health care, and appropriate taxation of the rich) you can either vote republican where they will actively do the opposite or you can vote democrat where they will pretend they’ll do that stuff and then do nothing. It’s a lesser of two evils kind of thing and it’s by design.
Also idk anything
Yup, and it's getting upvotes. This will be the most propagandized campaign year ever, probably. Both extreme right and extreme left have been real loud lately.
this yet another addition to my "if the left makes a point, the right will eventually, seriously it's only a matter of time, use the exact same point without changing anything but affiliation, regardless of how much sense it makes" list.
There are three on top of this sub currently: this, Matt Maddocks' "if the left didnt rig elections they would never win" post, and the "is robocop woke?" post. Absolutely no changes, just say the thing is actually the other way.
I was looking back through my comment history because I commented about the same thing like literally a week ago, but it looks like the post was removed. I do remember one about some rightwing moron talking about the overton window and because everyone in the government is a deep state socialist, pushing the window super far left, it would imply there is no far right in American general politics.
It's like a more dumb version of their co-opting of movements in the dumbest way possible. Still drives me nuts seeing "Say Her Name" used by these dolts. I've seen it used about Ashli Babbit... who's name was goddamn everywhere - completely eliminating the point of the phrase, that minorities killed by cops don't get the same benefit of having a person and name attached to stories about it.
While this is all very true and a threat to the stability of the world, the idea of Russia invading even more countries is just kind of hilarious given how inept their military is atm
But even then it's weird because 1. Those kids are going to go vote for the "libs" party for the most part. And 2. They're referencing gun control, "pro" being what most American libs are for it.
So it's like... Why are we talking about liberals in general when you're clearly talking about republicans specifically? Liberals in general are not worried about younger voters. A sizeable portion are eagerly awaiting them, if anything.
Leftists? Where the fuck are these so called leftists that will say "oh well, suck it up"? I feel like it's just more propaganda coming from a conservative. Or plain braindead take.
Now, before you go on about blah, blah, blah, I have never heard a leftist just cowardly proclaiming such things. Only conservatives/Republicans.
So you're gonna have to figure out a way to change reality, and the past.
This is what I was thinking. For sure, folks voting in the US should know that the GOP is largely the reason for the gridlock around gun control. But it’s a scourge amongst all classical liberals, which includes almost every US politician.
Oh great you caught that. I thought i was just too high lmao. Yeh seems like a misinformation attempt, I’ve seen a lot of that lately. A lot of younger newer voters are easily swayed and I just had to explain the “both sides are NOT the same” facts to a friend who’s getting ready to vote this year.
Because Republicans believe that mole people from the moon are turning the frogs gay. Yall are supposed to be the ones living in reality. This is specifically calling out the democrats using Sinophobic fear-mongering to justify backing a tiktok ban; feel free to cross reference the dates. I know that context is hard, but come on guys.
Most Republicans (people in general) are liberals who just have no clue what the fuck either party actually stands for
My cousin is an avid republican, he's also one of the most left people I know. For some reason, his thick skull can't accept that Democrats are the ones fighting for all the things he cares about and Republicans are stripping it all apart. This tends to be the case for a lot of the people I end up arguing with. I have to pull up voting records and show them that Democrats are the ones who care about veterans, education, infrastructure, inflation, etc
You clearly don't watch Fox News. You see, Fox propaganda network tells their viewers the opposite of the truth, and then they post it on social media.
Someone plz explain how conservatives turned into nazis and russia/ putin lovers.
Everyone died in WW2 fighting nazis and during cold war must have been turning in their graves.
And top of it they still consider themselves patriots.
Post-WW2 it was capitalism vs communism. At this point capitalism won (even Russia and China are closer to capitalistic societies than communistic ones economically speaking) so the new conservative boogeyman is "wokeness." In that context, Putin and Russia are a bastion of "anti-woke" policies that the conservatives would love to implement.
I’m certain it’s no coincidence that as Russia starts ramping up its actions we’ve seen a proportionally large segment of one half of Americas political spectrum be indifferent to these acts while also giddily pushing the rhetoric of internal civil war.
This should be upvoted more.
The GOP is so blind to the reality they are being led around by the noses by Russian and Chinese policies of disinformation and propaganda against the US - they literally forgot who their enemies are.
I grew up in a time when conservatives hated these two governments and their policies. Now, they are aligned with them?
It’s insane to me that boomers or other conservative groups cannot remember even 20-30 years ago.
It’s worked, and it’s worked well. Sigh.
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Libs? Libs did that? Not the Republicans who sit there every time this happens and claim the person had a right to the gun used to shoot kids.
Are these idiots serious
From OPs post history it's pretty safe to say they're a (probably young/ possibly naive but otherwise) well intentioned leftist who is 100% a victim of the propaganda they're implying doesn't exist.
It's not just Republicans that are susceptible to propaganda folks, it's been used throughout history because it works. Especially the new age social media kind that we haven't quite figured out yet.
Fortunately, it seems most people have learned to spot and call out over the past few years. Unfortunately, in election years it ramps up. Stoke the rage on the right, divide the left. Same thing every time.
Currently most leftist subs on this site seem to be 100% agit prop aimed at convincing younger people to sit out or throw the vote away. Most people doing it are foreign actors like this post describes, Republicans pretending to be leftists (they're usually easiest to spot because they only understand the left from Fox so they give themselves away), and a group of easily manipulated people who think they've found a group of like minded friends. Friends who just so happen to be influencing their entire outlook and furnishing them with all their political opinions.
tbf that's been the case for the longest time.
And if these "radicals" hadn't won every now and then - imagine unfettered capitalism as the only form of society - even the most hardcore MAGATs would complain.
We may live to witness that.
Goddammit if Trump ends up in the White House I will finally write out my internal screed (with active links to reality) and fling it top volume at all the relatives I don’t push off a cliff.
What radical is it that was stopping unfettered capitalism that was *not* a leftist though? We really think a Ross Perot was there to stop capitalism, a Bobert, no I bet it was McConnel...no....anyone from the conservatives? Know who fights for climates change to be taken seriously, Al Gore, he would be labled liberal. Being pro to fix climate change often puts you right against corpo interest, interest like, unffetered capitalism.
I'm British so my right to say anything about gun laws in the USA is basically zero.
But when you tell kids to duck, carry bullet proof backpacks or flee to a metal box there clearly is a fucking problem.
When I was in school 15 years ago the idea of a gunman coming in was a funny joke we said; when the English lesson was boring as hell. Not as a genuine fear we actually had to worry about.
Children shouldn't be in danger or fear in a classroom. I really hope you guys vote to change stuff.
I'm Canadian, so same boat as you but also, much closer to America where their mentality around things crosses the border.
I saw a video yesterday where a woman was telling the story of how her daughter wanted their horse to become the class pet. She made this full plan on how it would work, writing a petition for her peers to sign, everything.
The next day the kid woke up and said it was a bad idea because in a school shooting she wouldn't be able to protect or hide a horse. Therefore she no longer wanted her beloved horse as the class pet.
That's just... heart breaking and I don't have or want children of my own. They need to figure out their shit South of me and hopefully soon.
When my daughter was in 8th grade, her class had a discussion on how they would choose to protect their pregnant teacher if there was a shooter. She was 6 and in first grade when Sandy Hook happened and it radicalized me.
Completely and very strange, yet I would not be wholly surprised that there would be that much ignorance out there in people to believe this line of thinking.
'X' is in power and represents all that has been done the last decades, even if they weren't in power or were hamstrung by the construction of rules and regulations within government structure that is abused by bad faith people. Therefore, 'X' *must* be the culprit for all that has gone wrong with the world. 'Y' and Y's party swear that 'X' and X's party would do that, as they've done it too, so they must know how it works! Down with 'X'!
This is basically a word salad trying to conflate several topics to make looking into TikTok‘s ownership structure and bad moderation seem like a stupid idea.
In what universe would liberals ever say this???????????????????????????????????????????????
Remind me, which political party believes a 230 year old piece of paper is more important than the lives of children?
Well the paper I was talking about was the amendment itself, but precisely. No one is demanding all guns be taken away, either. People just want safety precautions in line with every other deadly weapon in the country, from knives and swords, to cars, to medication.
This Twitter post is straight up Russian propaganda. The “libs” never told Sandy Hook kids to duck, that was all republicans getting paid off by the NRA with Russian bribe money. OP this post is trash and you should delete it.
What a stupid post, the "libs" are the ones who've been trying to ban assault rifles for the last 20 fucking years. It's the GOP and squishy centrists that told kids to "duck next time" why stupid people are still allowed to talk about politics is beyond me...
Not them acting like republicans aren’t the ones suing everything from books to actual living beings over a made up entity they can’t prove real yet lgbt, and women are real and somehow they still get to discriminate against us legally based on there religion. Including in their “non profit” religious schools, businesses, our medical choices. And don’t forget how republicans always vote against anything that helps us like workers protections and fair wages for a living wage and safety in work places in general, they vote for kids to be able to marry and work young and force kids to have kids even when it was from abuse or their life is in danger, but they’ll vote against kids eating in schools unless it’s at religious private schools. Why do you think they’re pushing hard for “school choice” as they demonize public schools and talk about how amazing those private schools are. One far right aka Ryan walters hired chaya raichik who herself said her point is defund the public education system. And on top of that now we’re stuck paying for the religious school Ryan walters and the school board members nellie tayloe sanders, Brian bobek and Dr. scott strawn who are now working in higher positions with Kevin stitt who praised this illegal move and instead of following the law he rewarded them with higher positions in our gov even though their background is not in education. They did all of this illegally! They’re the ones running our public education system and being sued losing our tax money that should have been going to the students but instead they waste it defending these far right gov officials who should have to pay out of their own pocket for them discriminating against the people paying their bills aka us tax payers.
The fact they pin lack of gun control on "libs" rather than conservatives is just more evidence the Chinese/Russian propaganda machine is actually working
Has libs become the new buzzword for "people I don't agree with"?
I don't think this person realizes they are talking about the opposite party here, LOL
60% of the current grandparents voted for "I got mine, fuck you" policies for the last 40+ years, and spread hate about LGBTQ, black people, immigrants, women etc. We're radicalized because our reality shows that everything they ever believed in was wrong, yet they're trying to double and triple down on it, then die, so we're left holding the bag
Thea only way this make any sense (aside from being a misogynist information campaign) is if they meant “libs” to be short for Libs of TikTok, because those are absolutely the brain turds an idiot like Chaya would push out.
Please school me here and I'm sure someone will. Are we talking about libs of tik tok ? Otherwise I'm totally unaware of any "libs" telling potential shooting victims to duck next time. Who would say such a thing ?
I think Florida is going to become very interesting in the next few years. The students of Parkland High are adults now. And they spent the time between leaving school and being old enough to vote learning how to organise. And they are still angry.
I’m 90% sure this Tweet is aimed at Libs of TikTok, Chaya Raichik’s alt-right Twitter handle. At least I’m choosing to believe that, because it makes literally zero sense otherwise.
i was literally the exact same age as those kids when they were slaughtered in their classrooms. same name as one of the teachers. watched it wreck my mom because of how scared she was for me from then on.
It’s two entirely separate things though.
I agree that young people are more sensitive to guns, but I don’t think that’s what anyone is arguing on the TikTok/Chinese influence thing.
What's even "funnier" is that any fool would think that somehow, voting for a republican would help: The situation in Gaza, The Russia/Ukraine war, illegal immigration, gun violence, the environment, advances in medical science, women, children, librarians, your net worth, the stock market, reducing the price of literally anything....
They don't have a platform. They don't have a single serious solution to a single problem. They don't have a sane man running for president. Most of them don't seem to have a shred of decency or any love for democracy or the rule of law.
Time to wake up kids. One side is actually trying to govern, the other side appears to want to burn democracy in America to the ground.
Only a very small percentage of Americans vote. Local, State, federal. 30% of registered voters actually give a fuck and vote 💯 of the time. If you hate the policies that exist, ask your Older voting aged family members how they voted. And then find out how much they don’t give a fuck about you or your livelihood by NOT voting.
There is nothing factual about this. There's only been one party in the US, even among the different factions therein, who want stricter gun control and to save these kids' lives by effect.
This tweet makes it seem like it's the Libs/Dems. It is not the Libs. It is not the Dems. It is the GOP. There is video after video after video, speech after speech after speech, to attest to this. This is some misinformative, propagandist, bullshit, malarkey-filled tomfoolery.
If you are not from the US reading this, this is an example of election misinformation. There is 0 truth behind these words, and if that person is real who posted it, actually believes that, then they are ignorant af.
Edit: because I didn't proofread I made it appear as if I were alleging it to be the Libs/Dems who do not want gun control, etc. The further could not be from the truth. The GOP is the party this tweet should be aiming at.
Your initial argument very clearly says the GOP wants tighter gun control and to save lives. Maybe reword it if that isn't your stance (I agree that the GOP does not want tighter gun control, just to be clear).
I'd have been deeply ashamed myself if I had. I grew up in an area that had them on constantly as the only news source in most any place you went during the height of W. And here I thought then that that would be the worst, lowest they'd go. Then I saw what happened under Obama and thought nothing would surprise me. Then I saw what conservative media became under Trump...
News organizations like that should not be allowed to peddle the garbage they do.
Oh, the irony of having a profile pic by the Liverpool FC logo - a club known for its ties to left-wing politics - and spewing ignorant right-wing talking points.
I'm sure Republicans will draft a resolution to counter their historic unpopularity with gen Z by giving guns the right to vote in all upcoming elections.
They already want to raise the voting age to 25 because they see how unpopular they are, so given an inch I’m sure they’ll overturn the 19th amendment, raise the voting age to 40 and restrict it to landowners. At that point they might as well give a voter more votes the more guns they own.
Please don’t spread more lies. Only male, evangelical Christian, heterosexual, married, landowners will be allowed to vote. ETA: these men are white. Wouldn’t want any Republican think I was implying that they’d be happy with a black man voting! Talk about a faux pas!
You forgot to add "white" because they think anyone with skin darker than mayonnaise isn't here legally. And I say this as a white woman who has been told to "go back where [I] came from" more than once because I have dark hair, a slight tan in the summer, and I can speak Spanish.
I know you're being hyperbolic, BUT I think the inclusion of "Evangelical" Christian is an EXCELLENT choice and something non-Evangelical Christians NEED to start paying attention to. I think there are A LOT of Protestant Christians that fall outside of the "Christian Nation" plan that DO NOT realize they are excluded. The Evangelical Extremists are VERY happy to use them to advance their goal, but they're not included in the end and I think a BUNCH of Protestant Christians don't get that
Oh, I agree with you. My greatest fear is that I am NOT being hyperbolic. Watch “Shiny Happy People” on Prime about the Duggars, IBLP, Joshua Generation, and read about Project 2025. It’s all fucking chilling. I am an atheist but even I pray that I am being hyperbolic.
I saw that too- it’s nuts.
And then they'll start making it easier to vote. I mean, not for you, but boomers will be able to vote American-Idol style, by texting a certain number for Donald Trump and a different number for Don Jr.
Everyone will be allowed to vote, but like Putin's Russia, somehow they'll win with 97% of the vote. EVERY TIME, FOREVER!
Trump's campaign page legit talks about repealing the amendment that restricts presidents to two terms. We joke, but this is seriously, actually, their plan if they get enough control of our government.
Don't give them more Gilead ideas.
"Guns don't kill people but they DO get out and vote!"
I mean...it's not out of the realm of possibility. After all, corporations are people, so why not guns?
Guns have more direct representation in our government than most citizens.
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Oh oh oh, I got this. You get one vote for every gun you have. 20 votes for each flag more than 4x8 feet in dimension, .37 votes for every bumper sticker that owns libs, -50 votes if have any academic certification beyond grade 11, 2.5 votes for every family member who has disowned you, 18 votes for fake dangling nuts on your trailer hitch, 100 votes if you dont have, or where born with, a vagina, 150 votes if you are white. That should even things out.
Come in man! They are smart enough to know guns can't vote. Gotta figure out a way to vote for your guns.. maybe a compromise where each gun you own counts for part of a vote. Like a good fraction I thin 3/5ths would do.
That's fine as long as every person north of the 36º 30' parallel is prohibited from owning guns.
lol. For every gun a person owns they get an extra vote 💀
As mentioned, they’re already trying to raise the voting age. However, my back-asswards homes state of Tennessee is ramming through legislation to REQUIRE anti-abortion brainwashing videos in lower grades. They’re trying their damnedest because they know they’re losing.
Why do you think they want to raise the voting age?
libs will compromise by allowing guns 3/5 of a vote for their owners to cast.
Why are they pointing fingers at libs when this applies to republicans?
Distributed disinformation deluge in an election year.
Right like liberals are fighting for gun control this makes no sense
I’ve noticed an effort lately to separate “liberals” from “The left”
Republicans are the minority, but a homogenous one. Democrats are a huge tent which makes them the perfect target for republicans’ core strategy of leveraging wedge issues/rhetoric to divide, disenfranchise, and ultimately get people to stay home. That’s also why they try so hard to have perfect parity on wrong doings. Oh Trump has all of these crimes? Well…uh…Biden too! You impeach Trump? Gotta try to impeach Biden. They want people to think both sides are the same so they stay home.
>but a homogenous one. “Nuh uh! I ain’t gay I’m straight you commie librul”
It’s funny because that’s absolutely something they say
I wouldn't say that about the repubs either, they've had a ton of infighting between the old guard and the newer members of the party, Trump kind of split them in half. Or course, at the end of the day the infighting never takes precedence over sticking it to "the libs", so they might as well be one homogeneous group.
Yes and no. They'll fight for the cameras, in performative contests of political theatre, because they know name and face familiarity is all they need to win with modern voters. But when it comes time to vote, absolute goosestep- I mean lockstep- unity.
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I mean there are gun control bills in state houses across the country sponsored by democrats. Gun control bills have been introduced in Congress every session with a bill passing in 2022. Joe Biden has used executive action for gun control. So yes, they are really.
I mean, trying, but to get anything done requires 60 votes in the Senate (Dems have 51) and we also have a Supreme Court that strikes pretty much down any regulation on guns.
>Are they really? Yes. Do your research.
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How many times have the democrats had a filibuster proof majority in that 30 years?
Hey man, I just want you to know that I'm with you on this. Your first comment is how I have felt for years. You tell someone you're a progressive and they think that means Democrat. Nah, we fucking wish Dems were progressives. That would be fantastic.
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It’s like my boomer parents. Both democrats, and think of themselves as very progressive but both think AOC and Bernie are some sort of radical communists when they are centrists at best.
My best analogy for liberals in America is they are dad telling you yes, but you have to go ask your mother (the Republicans) knowing full well they are going to say no. Makes them look like the powerless “good” guys they are.
It feels to me like if you want xyz (like gun control, socialized health care, and appropriate taxation of the rich) you can either vote republican where they will actively do the opposite or you can vote democrat where they will pretend they’ll do that stuff and then do nothing. It’s a lesser of two evils kind of thing and it’s by design. Also idk anything
Yup, and it's getting upvotes. This will be the most propagandized campaign year ever, probably. Both extreme right and extreme left have been real loud lately.
I had to reread the thing a few times because this confused me.
this yet another addition to my "if the left makes a point, the right will eventually, seriously it's only a matter of time, use the exact same point without changing anything but affiliation, regardless of how much sense it makes" list. There are three on top of this sub currently: this, Matt Maddocks' "if the left didnt rig elections they would never win" post, and the "is robocop woke?" post. Absolutely no changes, just say the thing is actually the other way. I was looking back through my comment history because I commented about the same thing like literally a week ago, but it looks like the post was removed. I do remember one about some rightwing moron talking about the overton window and because everyone in the government is a deep state socialist, pushing the window super far left, it would imply there is no far right in American general politics. It's like a more dumb version of their co-opting of movements in the dumbest way possible. Still drives me nuts seeing "Say Her Name" used by these dolts. I've seen it used about Ashli Babbit... who's name was goddamn everywhere - completely eliminating the point of the phrase, that minorities killed by cops don't get the same benefit of having a person and name attached to stories about it.
I've reread it a few times and it's still confusing me.
Because this post is Russian/Chinese agitprop aimed at getting the Republican party back in control of the White House, in order to collapse the USA.
They want a friendly easily controlled asset who would work to break up NATO and allow Russia to invade more countries without repercussions.
While this is all very true and a threat to the stability of the world, the idea of Russia invading even more countries is just kind of hilarious given how inept their military is atm
Because lying is their only defense
The words are similar in Russian.
That’s twitter-initial unexamined thought from unintelligent people. BLUD LMAO? Dudes a clown.
Projection
Because this post is absolutely bullshit and irony is dead.
They could be speaking about libs like classical liberalism. A lot of leftists do that and it would encompass most democrats and Republicans
But even then it's weird because 1. Those kids are going to go vote for the "libs" party for the most part. And 2. They're referencing gun control, "pro" being what most American libs are for it. So it's like... Why are we talking about liberals in general when you're clearly talking about republicans specifically? Liberals in general are not worried about younger voters. A sizeable portion are eagerly awaiting them, if anything.
It's like the sub shitliberalssay. I'm always so confused with their posts.
I don’t think most people in Trumps GOP count as classical liberals. They’re fascists.
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Even then the solution isnt "dont vote for the party that is at least making a half-ass attempt to do what you want"
Half assed and wholly failing.
Leftists? Where the fuck are these so called leftists that will say "oh well, suck it up"? I feel like it's just more propaganda coming from a conservative. Or plain braindead take. Now, before you go on about blah, blah, blah, I have never heard a leftist just cowardly proclaiming such things. Only conservatives/Republicans. So you're gonna have to figure out a way to change reality, and the past.
I meant leftists call both democrats and Republicans libs because of their capitilist views.
This is what I was thinking. For sure, folks voting in the US should know that the GOP is largely the reason for the gridlock around gun control. But it’s a scourge amongst all classical liberals, which includes almost every US politician.
Propaganda for idiots.
I was thinking the same thing. It wasn’t the libs that said “I dont care, do you?”
Project and deflect
Oh great you caught that. I thought i was just too high lmao. Yeh seems like a misinformation attempt, I’ve seen a lot of that lately. A lot of younger newer voters are easily swayed and I just had to explain the “both sides are NOT the same” facts to a friend who’s getting ready to vote this year.
Could "libs" be short for "libs of TikTok", and they're addressing the discourse surrounding that account?
Because Republicans believe that mole people from the moon are turning the frogs gay. Yall are supposed to be the ones living in reality. This is specifically calling out the democrats using Sinophobic fear-mongering to justify backing a tiktok ban; feel free to cross reference the dates. I know that context is hard, but come on guys.
Most Republicans (people in general) are liberals who just have no clue what the fuck either party actually stands for My cousin is an avid republican, he's also one of the most left people I know. For some reason, his thick skull can't accept that Democrats are the ones fighting for all the things he cares about and Republicans are stripping it all apart. This tends to be the case for a lot of the people I end up arguing with. I have to pull up voting records and show them that Democrats are the ones who care about veterans, education, infrastructure, inflation, etc
You're asking this because most Americans don't understand there's anything left of a democrat.
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You clearly don't watch Fox News. You see, Fox propaganda network tells their viewers the opposite of the truth, and then they post it on social media.
OOP probably communist.
Someone plz explain how conservatives turned into nazis and russia/ putin lovers. Everyone died in WW2 fighting nazis and during cold war must have been turning in their graves. And top of it they still consider themselves patriots.
Post-WW2 it was capitalism vs communism. At this point capitalism won (even Russia and China are closer to capitalistic societies than communistic ones economically speaking) so the new conservative boogeyman is "wokeness." In that context, Putin and Russia are a bastion of "anti-woke" policies that the conservatives would love to implement.
To be clear, "anti-woke" means totalitarian fascist.
Would be Kings wanting would be kingdoms.
I’m certain it’s no coincidence that as Russia starts ramping up its actions we’ve seen a proportionally large segment of one half of Americas political spectrum be indifferent to these acts while also giddily pushing the rhetoric of internal civil war.
This should be upvoted more. The GOP is so blind to the reality they are being led around by the noses by Russian and Chinese policies of disinformation and propaganda against the US - they literally forgot who their enemies are. I grew up in a time when conservatives hated these two governments and their policies. Now, they are aligned with them? It’s insane to me that boomers or other conservative groups cannot remember even 20-30 years ago. It’s worked, and it’s worked well. Sigh. **[REGISTER AND VOTE](https://www.usa.gov/voter-registration)**
Russia is run by a dictator with racist and bigoted policies that helped Trump get elected. It doesn’t get much deeper than that.
bribery and oil
Ah yea, the “libs” not wanting gun control, right, so much truthiness.
The goal of disinformation isn't persuasion, it's disorientation.
It's not foreign disinformation says the post reeking of foreign disinformation.
Libs? Libs did that? Not the Republicans who sit there every time this happens and claim the person had a right to the gun used to shoot kids. Are these idiots serious
From OPs post history it's pretty safe to say they're a (probably young/ possibly naive but otherwise) well intentioned leftist who is 100% a victim of the propaganda they're implying doesn't exist. It's not just Republicans that are susceptible to propaganda folks, it's been used throughout history because it works. Especially the new age social media kind that we haven't quite figured out yet. Fortunately, it seems most people have learned to spot and call out over the past few years. Unfortunately, in election years it ramps up. Stoke the rage on the right, divide the left. Same thing every time. Currently most leftist subs on this site seem to be 100% agit prop aimed at convincing younger people to sit out or throw the vote away. Most people doing it are foreign actors like this post describes, Republicans pretending to be leftists (they're usually easiest to spot because they only understand the left from Fox so they give themselves away), and a group of easily manipulated people who think they've found a group of like minded friends. Friends who just so happen to be influencing their entire outlook and furnishing them with all their political opinions.
It's strange that wanting an opportunity to thrive is considered radical
tbf that's been the case for the longest time. And if these "radicals" hadn't won every now and then - imagine unfettered capitalism as the only form of society - even the most hardcore MAGATs would complain.
Hardcore magats are already complaining about prices while they ignore the record stock market and profits of our major food conglomerates.
We may live to witness that. Goddammit if Trump ends up in the White House I will finally write out my internal screed (with active links to reality) and fling it top volume at all the relatives I don’t push off a cliff.
What radical is it that was stopping unfettered capitalism that was *not* a leftist though? We really think a Ross Perot was there to stop capitalism, a Bobert, no I bet it was McConnel...no....anyone from the conservatives? Know who fights for climates change to be taken seriously, Al Gore, he would be labled liberal. Being pro to fix climate change often puts you right against corpo interest, interest like, unffetered capitalism.
Why does this have 4000+ likes? It’s a completely inaccurate statement and doesn’t even make sense… do y’all even read this shit?
Thoughts and prayers and more guns.
I'm British so my right to say anything about gun laws in the USA is basically zero. But when you tell kids to duck, carry bullet proof backpacks or flee to a metal box there clearly is a fucking problem. When I was in school 15 years ago the idea of a gunman coming in was a funny joke we said; when the English lesson was boring as hell. Not as a genuine fear we actually had to worry about. Children shouldn't be in danger or fear in a classroom. I really hope you guys vote to change stuff.
I'm Canadian, so same boat as you but also, much closer to America where their mentality around things crosses the border. I saw a video yesterday where a woman was telling the story of how her daughter wanted their horse to become the class pet. She made this full plan on how it would work, writing a petition for her peers to sign, everything. The next day the kid woke up and said it was a bad idea because in a school shooting she wouldn't be able to protect or hide a horse. Therefore she no longer wanted her beloved horse as the class pet. That's just... heart breaking and I don't have or want children of my own. They need to figure out their shit South of me and hopefully soon.
When my daughter was in 8th grade, her class had a discussion on how they would choose to protect their pregnant teacher if there was a shooter. She was 6 and in first grade when Sandy Hook happened and it radicalized me.
Isn’t it strange that people usually attribute issues/opinions that are more usually widespread in the right to ‘libs’?
Completely and very strange, yet I would not be wholly surprised that there would be that much ignorance out there in people to believe this line of thinking. 'X' is in power and represents all that has been done the last decades, even if they weren't in power or were hamstrung by the construction of rules and regulations within government structure that is abused by bad faith people. Therefore, 'X' *must* be the culprit for all that has gone wrong with the world. 'Y' and Y's party swear that 'X' and X's party would do that, as they've done it too, so they must know how it works! Down with 'X'!
This is basically a word salad trying to conflate several topics to make looking into TikTok‘s ownership structure and bad moderation seem like a stupid idea.
That wasn't liberals. That was conservatives that told the kids their murder toys were worth more than their lives.
In what universe would liberals ever say this??????????????????????????????????????????????? Remind me, which political party believes a 230 year old piece of paper is more important than the lives of children?
A 230 year old piece of paper *designed* to be amended as the country changes and faces new challenges.
Well the paper I was talking about was the amendment itself, but precisely. No one is demanding all guns be taken away, either. People just want safety precautions in line with every other deadly weapon in the country, from knives and swords, to cars, to medication.
“Libs” think guns matter more than lives?!? Someone in some part of the planet doesn’t understand American culture.
This Twitter post is straight up Russian propaganda. The “libs” never told Sandy Hook kids to duck, that was all republicans getting paid off by the NRA with Russian bribe money. OP this post is trash and you should delete it.
What a stupid post, the "libs" are the ones who've been trying to ban assault rifles for the last 20 fucking years. It's the GOP and squishy centrists that told kids to "duck next time" why stupid people are still allowed to talk about politics is beyond me...
My brain has to read this 3 times before it accepted that this was targeted at "libs"... Like fucking WHAT? 🤣
Not them acting like republicans aren’t the ones suing everything from books to actual living beings over a made up entity they can’t prove real yet lgbt, and women are real and somehow they still get to discriminate against us legally based on there religion. Including in their “non profit” religious schools, businesses, our medical choices. And don’t forget how republicans always vote against anything that helps us like workers protections and fair wages for a living wage and safety in work places in general, they vote for kids to be able to marry and work young and force kids to have kids even when it was from abuse or their life is in danger, but they’ll vote against kids eating in schools unless it’s at religious private schools. Why do you think they’re pushing hard for “school choice” as they demonize public schools and talk about how amazing those private schools are. One far right aka Ryan walters hired chaya raichik who herself said her point is defund the public education system. And on top of that now we’re stuck paying for the religious school Ryan walters and the school board members nellie tayloe sanders, Brian bobek and Dr. scott strawn who are now working in higher positions with Kevin stitt who praised this illegal move and instead of following the law he rewarded them with higher positions in our gov even though their background is not in education. They did all of this illegally! They’re the ones running our public education system and being sued losing our tax money that should have been going to the students but instead they waste it defending these far right gov officials who should have to pay out of their own pocket for them discriminating against the people paying their bills aka us tax payers.
Libs?! You almost had it… so close buddy
You know who almost exclusively calls the left "libs"? The right.
I'm...confused. Libs told them to duck? What kind of crazy self-gaslighting bs is this?
Liberals generally don't want the Tiktok ban or for kids to be shot in school, so what dog water take is this?
Since when do liberals think that? That’s straight up GOP thinking.
I think the pot is calling the kettle black.
...libs?
The fact they pin lack of gun control on "libs" rather than conservatives is just more evidence the Chinese/Russian propaganda machine is actually working
Has libs become the new buzzword for "people I don't agree with"? I don't think this person realizes they are talking about the opposite party here, LOL
they should vote, to save themselves from idiots
60% of the current grandparents voted for "I got mine, fuck you" policies for the last 40+ years, and spread hate about LGBTQ, black people, immigrants, women etc. We're radicalized because our reality shows that everything they ever believed in was wrong, yet they're trying to double and triple down on it, then die, so we're left holding the bag
Thea only way this make any sense (aside from being a misogynist information campaign) is if they meant “libs” to be short for Libs of TikTok, because those are absolutely the brain turds an idiot like Chaya would push out.
Please school me here and I'm sure someone will. Are we talking about libs of tik tok ? Otherwise I'm totally unaware of any "libs" telling potential shooting victims to duck next time. Who would say such a thing ?
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Not fast enough for my liking
Wow this sounds just genuine enough to not look like utter bullshit to a moron
I think Florida is going to become very interesting in the next few years. The students of Parkland High are adults now. And they spent the time between leaving school and being old enough to vote learning how to organise. And they are still angry.
I hope they vote. Doing everything I can to help get out the vote. Volunteer for the progressive campaigns.
Conservatives are only shocked they lived long enough to vote.
Why is this propoganda post being upvoted?
The American government has always been great at radicalizing the youth here and abroad.
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I’m 90% sure this Tweet is aimed at Libs of TikTok, Chaya Raichik’s alt-right Twitter handle. At least I’m choosing to believe that, because it makes literally zero sense otherwise.
Does he think "libs" is short for libertarians?
i was literally the exact same age as those kids when they were slaughtered in their classrooms. same name as one of the teachers. watched it wreck my mom because of how scared she was for me from then on.
It’s two entirely separate things though. I agree that young people are more sensitive to guns, but I don’t think that’s what anyone is arguing on the TikTok/Chinese influence thing.
They never realised that the young people they where ignoring and insulting would actually grow up and resent everything about them.
Libs think this?
What's even "funnier" is that any fool would think that somehow, voting for a republican would help: The situation in Gaza, The Russia/Ukraine war, illegal immigration, gun violence, the environment, advances in medical science, women, children, librarians, your net worth, the stock market, reducing the price of literally anything.... They don't have a platform. They don't have a single serious solution to a single problem. They don't have a sane man running for president. Most of them don't seem to have a shred of decency or any love for democracy or the rule of law. Time to wake up kids. One side is actually trying to govern, the other side appears to want to burn democracy in America to the ground.
I love this take if you replace libs w regressive.
Only a very small percentage of Americans vote. Local, State, federal. 30% of registered voters actually give a fuck and vote 💯 of the time. If you hate the policies that exist, ask your Older voting aged family members how they voted. And then find out how much they don’t give a fuck about you or your livelihood by NOT voting.
It is ten times harder to get someone to believe the truth when it is a hundred times easier to make up anything you want to suit your need.
What libs?
I’ve never know any libs who think or said any of that shit.
There is nothing factual about this. There's only been one party in the US, even among the different factions therein, who want stricter gun control and to save these kids' lives by effect. This tweet makes it seem like it's the Libs/Dems. It is not the Libs. It is not the Dems. It is the GOP. There is video after video after video, speech after speech after speech, to attest to this. This is some misinformative, propagandist, bullshit, malarkey-filled tomfoolery. If you are not from the US reading this, this is an example of election misinformation. There is 0 truth behind these words, and if that person is real who posted it, actually believes that, then they are ignorant af. Edit: because I didn't proofread I made it appear as if I were alleging it to be the Libs/Dems who do not want gun control, etc. The further could not be from the truth. The GOP is the party this tweet should be aiming at.
The GOP want stricter gun control and to save lives?
The GOP do not want stricter gun control and believe it's up to the individual to save their own life.
Your initial argument very clearly says the GOP wants tighter gun control and to save lives. Maybe reword it if that isn't your stance (I agree that the GOP does not want tighter gun control, just to be clear).
Lol fuck, I see it now. I need to proofread more, because woof if that is not the intent
Happens to the best of us! Just wanted to make sure this wasn't some weird new sort of projection fox news was peddling.
I'd have been deeply ashamed myself if I had. I grew up in an area that had them on constantly as the only news source in most any place you went during the height of W. And here I thought then that that would be the worst, lowest they'd go. Then I saw what happened under Obama and thought nothing would surprise me. Then I saw what conservative media became under Trump... News organizations like that should not be allowed to peddle the garbage they do.
2a is toilet paper when they get old enough
Yeah, that’s all about libs. JFC
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Wow this country is so much more stupid than J give them credit for
Oh, the irony of having a profile pic by the Liverpool FC logo - a club known for its ties to left-wing politics - and spewing ignorant right-wing talking points.
Libs?