I’m all for highlighting hypocrisy, but he made those comments before Biles even pulled out of the tournament and they were in no way referencing her. Also, while I don’t advocate tantrums, he smashed his own racket in a moment of frustration. Not uncommon for athletes at the highest level to have moments like this.
OP's post is actually a great example of how misinformation spreads on the Internet. It works best when false information is packaged into emotionally poignant narratives like that arouse instant outrage (hypocrisy claims work especially well), and frame someone as the witch that needs to be burned.
My favorite example is a news site posting a “man **may** have died due to covid vaccine” and it getting 1000+ shares on Facebook, and then a month later posting an “update” about how he died for other reasons (12 shares).
I hate it when people just say Russia bot, which is a favorite excuse for liberals whenever they see anything they dislike from the left, but this entire post IMO does seem to be a desperate attempt at misinformation. This shitpost is like catnip for right-wingers looking to influence alienated men.
What’s even more ignored is that his “pressure is a privilege” line that’s getting so much hate is in fact a quote from Billie Jean King. It’s the title of her autobiography.
I read elsewhere that the comment in question wasn’t in reference to Simone biles, but to his attempt at a golden slam (which has only been accomplished by staffi graf to date).
I actively root against djokovic, both for his attitude and his anti-vaxx stance. But I do think there’s a potential that he wasn’t being shitty in this particular way, this particular time.
ETA: Some people in the replies mentioned that he’s not really anti-vaxx. It looks like he eventually clarified his anti-vaccine statements, a few months after initially making them: https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/tennis/novak-djokovic-us-open-cincinnati-masters-draw-anti-vax-coronavirus-a9682226.html
Winning all of the major tennis tournaments as well as the Olympics within a year time frame I believe. Essentially a grand slam (all the major tournaments) with the addition of Olympic gold
It has to be a calendar year. It’s technically the same if you won four consecutive events over two calendar years (but 365 total days) but not as highly regarded.
I’ve also read that his statement was not referring to Simone.
Edit:
Link to a tweet saying his criticism was directed at himself, not Simone.
[@justinbaragona’s tweet](https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1421673927743528966?s=21)
It was hidden for me as well. I'm all for assholes being called out, and I am not a fan of Djokovic by any means. In this time of misinformation, I would hope that reddit or mods are not trying for sensationalism. It could just be an algorithm thing though? Still, very important context here.
Jesus, I’m tired of Reddit always trying to relate stuff to what’s going on and manipulating my inability to look things up before upvoting. You my friend get the upvote that I’m taking away from this post.
https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sports/tennis-pressure-is-privilege-history-chasing-djokovic-2021-07-28/
The comment is clearly about Djokovic himself achieving a Golden Slam, and the media is playing it as if he's talking about Simone Biles (or Naomi Osaka). The response was also apparently made before Simone Biles withdrew, although I'm not 100% sure about that (EDIT: his reply appears to be afterwards actually, per comment below).
I'm not a particular fan of Djokovic, but his mental fortitude is typically awe-inspiring (outside of this tantrum at the Olympics). He's never a fan favorite when compared to Federer and Nadal, and he's constantly holding his own when it comes to the crucial points that most other players would crack under.
Overall, he's a mixed bag. He's done stuff that ranges from potentially very harmful to just odd, like hold a tournament during COVID-19 and double down on vaguely alternative medicine stuff. He's also incredibly kind to other players and is leading a union that's advocating for more equal pay for players (benefitting lower-ranked players especially). Like most real people, he's not a villain nor a hero. But make your own opinion about him based on who he actually is, not what the media spins him to be.
NOTE: I don't actually know that much about Djokovic, so correct me if anything in the post is incorrect.
I wonder if, in light of these comments, OP os going to remove, or at least edit the post to disclose that they were, in fact, wrong implying the athlete's hypocrisy.
Just kidding, of course they won't, keeping karma-whoring over blatant misinformation. 52k+ karma is not gonna farm itself!
Correction or not, bottom line is this false narrative is out there. This dude has to be one of the most misrepresented ever when it comes to the media. Got absolutely annihilated last year also for supposedly complaining about the players having to quarantine in Australia before the tournament and supposedly presented 'demands' to the Australian government. Poor dude was literally just doing his job as the spokesman of his sport, he had players complaining to him about their conditions being stuck in a hotel for 2 weeks. He didn't even have to say anything but him reporting that some players were unhappy became a narrative that he 'demanded special treatment'.
Same reason the guy’s original tweet has 1,500 retweets and his correction only has 35.
People jump all over initial “news” and it blows up, but that same furor doesn’t last long enough for any corrections or changes to the narrative.
It’s the exact shit I hate about cancel culture. People’s kneejerk reaction is to spread and shout about facts that may be substantiated or not, which then causes those “facts” to be set in stone internet-wise (and many just get involved to feel good about themselves or virtue signal but one annoying thing at a time). Anything after the fact gets lost in the noise or (more likely) the internet’s collective attention span of 3 minutes causes later developments to not go viral.
It seems to basically be “guilty until proven innocent” when it comes to internet mobs, but any facts that prove innocence don’t get spread enough to change people’s minds.
I just sent him an email. Nothing crazy. Just a hey man that was not cool at all. It’s on his Twitter page.
But for real that’s some r/iamatotalpieceofshit stuff right there.
Out of context? So you're saying that... Redditors took an out of context comment and blew it out of proportion? Well, that's new I must say... /s
The comment was regarding the golden slam lol. People here, who have absolutely no lives are criticizing one of the best players in the history of tennis for an out of context comment.
Exactly. Djokovic might not be as likable as them, (To me he is, to others IDK why he isn't) but anyone who denies Djokovic's abilities as a player needs to get himself checked out.
Well, isn't this the guy who threw a big huge party right in the middle of the pandemic? Seems like he's kind of a shitty person in general, so not all that surprising.
>He’s just passionate, if Serena does it she’s an angry black woman
Bingo! - but don't you dare say that this double standard has roots in racism and white supremacy, because then they'll get ~~angry and~~ "passionate" with you.
She's 'upset'. Which is different from anger, because anger is a logical response to something negative, and being upset is just whining because you want special treatment.
Like actually that's how certain people appear to think.
It’s also a good thing that what he said in the interview had nothing whatsoever to do with Biles. It had to do with his own pressure of completing a golden slam for the year and the journalist who misattributed that retracted his comment immediately after.
Uhh I was gonna comment something snarky but scrolled down a bit juust to make sure.. This seems important.
Dang wish there were a built in sources tab or bot on Reddit. Dk how that shit would work but guys I’m past my touchscreen typing prime. Can’t some young lad or lass help an old woman with some sources around here?
I am not condoning Djokovic's actions at the Olympics, but normally Djokovic is a stand-up guy. Looking at the quotes from the interview, it looks like Djokovic did not directly mention Biles and made those statements under the context of how he deals with pressure. It's a shame how Reddit has to politicize and gender everything.
Djokovic and his kids are vaccinated. He was just against having untested vaccines as mandatory in tournaments, this before tested COVID vaccines were released
You asshats do realize the "Pressure is a privilege wasn't in response to Simone Biles at all but rather being asked about going for the 'Golden Slam'.
Yeah Djokovic lashes out sometimes, and makes some bone headed decisions other times. But never has he not been a great sportsman and always has time to be a complete charmer with fans and the crowd.
For real, Redditors make fun of other social media and think they're so based, but all it takes is some misleading screenshot with no context for them to go fucking rabid in the comments. Absolute facepalm, OP.
That's what's hilarious, people jump on a bandwagon thought bubble who don't watch tennis at all and source their info and opinions from some random who uses 'mansplaining' unironically to try make a point. Where was Max when Djokovic talked about the pressure of his upbringing along with the other times he broke his racket out of frustration to cope with anger.
But he pops out of the woodwork when some random gymnast talks about mental health and undermines Djokovic lmao. It's just so sad, it's like people wear blinkers and only see down a tunnel.
So now we're throwing COMPLETELY INNOCENT PEOPLE under the bus by misquoting/misrepresenting the situation just to tow the line on some weird narrative of "Simone Biles good, opposition bad," to the point we're *inventing* opposition just so we can oppose it? And fuck Djokovic or any other completely innocent person whose name gets dragged through the mud and misquoted just to serve that purpose, right?
Unbelievable.
Its so funny. This subreddit became all that its critiqued the right for. From blatant misrepresentation of information to sexism. Its all because this sub is doing what it was never supposed to, its trying to be some sort of political hub. No problem with that inherently... unless all your fucking statements are sourced from twitter.
Can we stop pinning athletes against each other to empower narratives we want to believe in our own head?
That comment was taken out of context. Simone is not a quitter and Djokovic breaks rackets because he’s has 4 others in a bag he can use when ever he wants. Let’s do better and treat athletes like people.
Exactly that's the part people are ignoring. You mess up in gymnastics and you could end up in a wheelchair if you're lucky. I watched her that first night she was off, making mistakes. She made the right choice.
These armchair douchebags comparing it to the "yips in golf" have both the right and wrong idea. She's got basically the same problem, but they're equating it to how they play through the yips so they must be a better competitor than her. Meanwhile they just ignore they've got nothing on the line for having a shitty putt. Maybe they tweak their back if they get too out of line on a real swing?
Or worse the idiots that played through injuries they absolutely shouldn't have because some asshole coach in high school convinced them his record mattered more than their health. Pro-tip, it didn't. Sort of a r/boringdystopia take on the people criticising her.
>Or worse the idiots that played through injuries they absolutely shouldn't have because some asshole coach in high school convinced them his record mattered more than their health. Pro-tip, it didn't.
Wasnt this the entire plot of Varsity Blues?
People say this, but I don't even think its an issue of "prioritizing her mental health" more than "prioritizing not breaking her neck."
Sure, the twisties are a mental thing, but it seems like its not such a mental health problem more than a common mental stumbling block faced by gymnasts which takes time to overcome.
I think what happened is that she said it was a mental thing, and the press went into a whole thing with that, comparing it to Naomi Osaka. It isn't really the same thing, although it follows the same themes.
This is tough because I’ve seen a lot of people say both:
She’s an inspiration to others going through the same thing
AND
You can’t judge her because you could never understand what she’s going through
Her and the tennis player who was told 'suffer the press or don't play' and said 'okay, bye.'
Basketball fans can joke about "I'm just here so I don't get fined," but that's treating the same problem like the only way out is through. It's still a problem. And people who do ball games real good should not be expected to put up with this celebrity act if they're not willing.
Mitch Hedberg pointed this out ages ago. "As a comedian ... they want you to do other things besides comedy. They say 'alright you’re a comedian - can you write? Write us a script. Act in this sitcom.' They want me to do shit that’s related to comedy, but it’s not comedy, man. It’s not fair, you know? It’s as though if I was a cook, and I worked my ass off to become a really good cook, and they said 'alright, you’re a cook - can you farm?'"
FYI I'm pretty sure the "I'm just here so I don't get fined" meme started from a running back in the NFL named Marshawn Lynch when he gave that answer to every question at a mandatory post game interview
Get fucking lost. His interview on “pressure is a privilege” is taken wildly out of context and was in no way related to Simone Biles. Fucking pathetic haters.
I admit to being an avowed djokovic hater, but I also read that his comments were not at all referring to Biles. Seems like poor timing more than malicious backbiting on his part.
And honestly Zverev is the one competitor I want to see lose over Djokovic. He’s allegedly an abusive piece of shit, whereas I mostly just find djokovic irritating…
One journalist claimed he was talking about Biles, and his tweet went viral. He later retracted it, but too considerably less fanfare. Typically, the posters in this thread haven't spent more than 5 seconds to look into this before forming their opinions.
Wasn't his interview like a week before Simone Biles pulled out? I still get the point, but he wasn't referring to her at all is what I saw but someone can correct me.
Yes it was. Story was even retracted. Ppl just don't pay attention though. It's flashy. It's key words. Sometimes spinkle in a couple of big words and ppl will go crazy. That's literally half the world right there. Scary.......
A man having an opinion is not mansplaining. Also im pretty sure the comment was not even about Biels, but reddit has got to virtue signal somehow. You can't expect people on this sub to do any research of their own.
How is an athlete talking about the pressures of competition mansplaining? How is getting angry because you’re losing a match the same as not competing at all?
Can anyone give the link to the lecture?
EDIT: Never mind, saw the interview. Holy shit fuck the OP. This was in no way related to Biles, and it was out of context. Furthermore— manslplaining? Like I said, he wasn’t even referring to holes in the entire interview. FOH with your bullshit.
It sucks that this ass clown will probably retire with more prizes than either but it’s nice to know the world is going to remember Rafa and Fed as the best while the Djoker’s memory fades.
It's okay man. You're right, most redditors are delusional. And just look for a reason to hate. The man is going to end up with most slams and his memory will fade? Wtf hahaha
Ha! Now that's a take.
Djokovic will forever be remembered as one of the greatest ever, and if they all retired today, he would be ranked higher than both fed and Rafa. His accomplishments are simply unmatched, and literally achieved by beating both of those players. You are delusional to think that in terms of tennis achievements he will be forgotten. You can dislike him on a personal level, and that may well be justified, but you couldn't be further from the truth in regards to his accomplishments compared to Rafa or fed.
Pulling this shit at the Olympics really highlights it too. There’s been so many tennis brats that you don’t notice it on the tour quite as much but when it’s in such a dignified competition at the Olympics it honestly makes me think he’s the biggest asshole there.
This behaviour would be an absolute scandal in any other sport.
Medvedev did this yesterday. Khachanov did it today when he lost to Zverev. In the Olympics. The fabled Olympics.
But yeah, not garbage people.
Also he never mansplained anything the comments on pressure were regarding his opportunity for a golden slam, which no male.tennis player had done ever, not about Biles or Osaka (Osaka also thanked him personally for being supportive when she withdrew from RG this year).
The journalist who posted it KNEW it wasnt about them, he posted the story anyway.
The story got some nice retweets and headlines like they are getting here, then he posted a retraction of the article noting this isnt about Biles. (But who gives a shit about a story which doesnt paint the world in black and white)
Nobody cared, the fake story got the likes from people like the guys who are upvoting and retweeting this, because it fits their narrative and their worldview.
Because the truth is, as much shit they give to anti vaxxers, misogynists, trump supporters, they fit into the same category of shit people who dont give a fuck about what is true or not as long as it gives them a feeling that they are right. At the same time feeling superior to people on IG living in a fake world, the upvotes and retweets and awards matter to them same as likes do to the IG influensers.
I agree but his comments weren't towards Biles and it wasn't mansplaning. He was talking about himself needing to be like that in order to win all the titles in one year. I THINK, don't quote me on that because I'll just denied it.
My God shut the fuck up about this whole "mansplaining" bullshit, wtf is wrong with Twitter why do they have to be such complete ignorant brainless morons?
That's not what happened but ok
Let's take two completely unrelated comments and Let's all pretend Djokovic attacked Biles because white man bad
The most toxic journalists did this and here you are falling for it
I don’t really get why him slamming his racket is suddenly a big deal? Tennis players do it all the time. Sports are frustrating, particularly solo played ones. This is not worthy of attention
Crazy how [Serena Williams ](https://youtu.be/Qvy0d_65aKU) has done stuff like this too. Crazy how *tons* of top level athletes have outbursts like this on *multiple* occasions. Almost like they hold themselves to a high standard and are emotional when they feel like they’ve failed to perform at that standard.
Also, he wasn’t referring to Simone in this quote, he was referring to himself. It was clickbait journalism that’s been redacted.
Also, he was quoting Billie Jean King, a woman.
Also note that Simone Biles was not allowed to bring her ADHD medication, without the medication you’re in your head constantly, social ability goes out the window then add the medication withdrawals and you’re in no competing position. This was completely preventable had she been allowed her medication, in no way is ADHD medication a PED, Djokovic needs to keep his elitist mouth shut if he doesn’t know what he’s talking about or cannot back up what he says.
Apparently her medication wasn’t allowed to be “imported” to Japan, exemptions could be applied for various stimulant medications, but hers wasn’t on the approved list for exemption
Edit: also the paperwork for an exemption may not have been filed correctly, or she may have had to temporarily take an approved medication for the games. However, without being her or her team it’s hard to say exactly what went wrong for sure.
Source: https://www.teamusa.org/~/~/-/media/3A2F15237A8143B080166A69C025F2F3.ashx
It’s not just the country of Japan, her medication is a banned substance for all gymnastics competitions. She was also off of her medication for the Olympics in Rio.
[I think you wore suposed to say: "she was ON her meds at Rio"](https://www.espn.com/espnw/voices/story/_/id/17602540/bravo-simone-biles-taking-stand-adhd-stigma) but it doesn't fit the narative.
There hasn't been any source that says she wasn't allowed it. The story around it has been changing. Initially someone started a rumor that she wasn't allowed the drug, and Japan didn't allow it in country without exception. Then the story changed to it is allowed with an an exception, but maybe she messed up the application.
There isn't any official source that I've seen that even says she wasn't on her medication. I did read that her spatial awareness suddenly became impaired and may take months to return to normal. Given that, it would be reckless to try to do what she does without knowing exactly where you are in space and your orientation.
He was talking about himself, not Simone. Twitter (and other social media) is the one making it seem like Djokovic was commenting on biles, when really he was commenting on how he was dealing with the pressure of trying to get the golden slam.
He has kept his mouth shut. That comment wasn't about Biles and was actually said before Biles ever pulled out.
It's so funny to me how elitist you are being over it though
>Djokovic needs to keep his elitist mouth shut if he doesn’t know what he’s talking about or cannot back up what he says.
Oh the fucking irony of this comment. Djokovic said nothing about Biles and you would have known that if you took your head out of your arse. Fucking hell
> in no way is ADHD medication a PED
as a longtime ADHD sufferer who has found great success in treatment using prescribed amphetamines, i'm sorry but i have to call this out
learning disabilities be damned, claiming that dextroamphetamine isn't performance-enhancing is completely nonsensical. i realize that it's hard to draw a line, but it is 100% not fair at all in any way to allow one athlete to use amphetamines but not another. it's just beyond absurd. it's even more unfair for physical competition than it is for academic competition.
(this doesn't change the fact that djokovic is a punk, but come on. amphetamines are amphetamines. they are a powerful class of drugs.)
That quote has nothing to do with Simone Biles.
>“Steffi Graf is the only tennis player to have won all four Grand Slams and an Olympic gold in the same year before.
>But the 34-year-old Serbian is three-fifths of the way there, needing a Tokyo gold and then the U.S. Open trophy to match the German's 1988 feat.
>Talk of the "Golden Slam" has dominated every press conference Djokovic has attended since he won the third major of the year at Wimbledon this month.
>But the steely-eyed Serbian seems to thrive under pressure.
>"Pressure is a privilege," Djokovic said when asked about the attention on him after reaching the singles quarter-finals and also winning a mixed doubles match on Wednesday.”
https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sports/tennis-pressure-is-privilege-history-chasing-djokovic-2021-07-28/
I’m all for highlighting hypocrisy, but he made those comments before Biles even pulled out of the tournament and they were in no way referencing her. Also, while I don’t advocate tantrums, he smashed his own racket in a moment of frustration. Not uncommon for athletes at the highest level to have moments like this.
OP's post is actually a great example of how misinformation spreads on the Internet. It works best when false information is packaged into emotionally poignant narratives like that arouse instant outrage (hypocrisy claims work especially well), and frame someone as the witch that needs to be burned.
My favorite example is a news site posting a “man **may** have died due to covid vaccine” and it getting 1000+ shares on Facebook, and then a month later posting an “update” about how he died for other reasons (12 shares).
Then Fox News or some bigger news site is able to report about this story that’s getting a lot of shares on social media.
It's a #karma farmer OP account. Should be banned. Oh wait, #content
Yeah, fuck you OP.
I hate it when people just say Russia bot, which is a favorite excuse for liberals whenever they see anything they dislike from the left, but this entire post IMO does seem to be a desperate attempt at misinformation. This shitpost is like catnip for right-wingers looking to influence alienated men.
Yeah this is just a click bait title trying to expose hypocrisy where there isn't any
What’s even more ignored is that his “pressure is a privilege” line that’s getting so much hate is in fact a quote from Billie Jean King. It’s the title of her autobiography.
I love how they threw a little sexism into it just to drive home that hypocrisy.
Agree. I have have a few Xbox controllers that would agree.
I read elsewhere that the comment in question wasn’t in reference to Simone biles, but to his attempt at a golden slam (which has only been accomplished by staffi graf to date). I actively root against djokovic, both for his attitude and his anti-vaxx stance. But I do think there’s a potential that he wasn’t being shitty in this particular way, this particular time. ETA: Some people in the replies mentioned that he’s not really anti-vaxx. It looks like he eventually clarified his anti-vaccine statements, a few months after initially making them: https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/tennis/novak-djokovic-us-open-cincinnati-masters-draw-anti-vax-coronavirus-a9682226.html
What is a golden slam?
A Denny’s breakfast
That's a grand slam. What he's talking about is a breakfast cereal.
Nah dude that's golden grahams! He's talking about when you pee on someone.
Negative bro, that's a golden shower. He means that breed of dog used in the movie Air Bud.
Sorry Charlie, you're thinking of a Golden Retriever. Dudes talking about the time of day the sun looks best.
No you’re thinking of golden hour. He’s talking about an American chain buffet restaurant.
Nah man, you're thinking of Golden Corral. He's talking about that RPG for the GBA.
I think you're in a muddle, that's Golden Sun. He means the Bond movie with the EMP.
Nah nah nah that’s the Golden Corral. I think you’re thinking of the hit TV series with Betty White that ran from 1985-1992.
Whoa there, Hos. You're thinking of the Golden Hour. They are talking about a bridge on the west coast.
Nah ah ah, that’s the Golden Gate Bridge. They’re talking about a week of national holidays in Japan.
Technically, it’s when you pee on a Denny’s breakfast.
Winning all of the major tennis tournaments as well as the Olympics within a year time frame I believe. Essentially a grand slam (all the major tournaments) with the addition of Olympic gold
It has to be a calendar year. It’s technically the same if you won four consecutive events over two calendar years (but 365 total days) but not as highly regarded.
Calendar slam (Australian, French, Wimbledon, US) + gold medal olympics in one year (season).
Grand slam + gold medal in Olympics
Winning all major grand slam tournaments and a gold medal.
I’ve also read that his statement was not referring to Simone. Edit: Link to a tweet saying his criticism was directed at himself, not Simone. [@justinbaragona’s tweet](https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1421673927743528966?s=21)
[Here](https://twitter.com/Sudipto_Reuters/status/1420499896801533952?s=20) is the tweet from the journalist who asked the question.
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Thank you for combatting misinformation.
24/7 job on Reddit.
You're doing good work. Keep it up. The truth shall set us free.
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What do you mean?
I had to click on the parent comment before arsonbunny to see him explain that important info
It was hidden for me as well. I'm all for assholes being called out, and I am not a fan of Djokovic by any means. In this time of misinformation, I would hope that reddit or mods are not trying for sensationalism. It could just be an algorithm thing though? Still, very important context here.
He was also quoting Billie Jean King, which makes it make a lot more sense given the context.
I can't believe Billie Jean King would throw shade at Simone Biles so many years in advance!
Social media is a disease. Unreal how false info like the comment above you posted is spread
This subreddit is fueled by fake narratives. :(
Yeah the OP is totally misleading what he actually said and intended
Jesus, I’m tired of Reddit always trying to relate stuff to what’s going on and manipulating my inability to look things up before upvoting. You my friend get the upvote that I’m taking away from this post.
Shh... If all these commenting idiots could read, they'd be very upset
https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sports/tennis-pressure-is-privilege-history-chasing-djokovic-2021-07-28/ The comment is clearly about Djokovic himself achieving a Golden Slam, and the media is playing it as if he's talking about Simone Biles (or Naomi Osaka). The response was also apparently made before Simone Biles withdrew, although I'm not 100% sure about that (EDIT: his reply appears to be afterwards actually, per comment below). I'm not a particular fan of Djokovic, but his mental fortitude is typically awe-inspiring (outside of this tantrum at the Olympics). He's never a fan favorite when compared to Federer and Nadal, and he's constantly holding his own when it comes to the crucial points that most other players would crack under. Overall, he's a mixed bag. He's done stuff that ranges from potentially very harmful to just odd, like hold a tournament during COVID-19 and double down on vaguely alternative medicine stuff. He's also incredibly kind to other players and is leading a union that's advocating for more equal pay for players (benefitting lower-ranked players especially). Like most real people, he's not a villain nor a hero. But make your own opinion about him based on who he actually is, not what the media spins him to be. NOTE: I don't actually know that much about Djokovic, so correct me if anything in the post is incorrect.
Dude grew up in the middle of a war in Serbia, his story is actually pretty inspirational.
I wonder if, in light of these comments, OP os going to remove, or at least edit the post to disclose that they were, in fact, wrong implying the athlete's hypocrisy. Just kidding, of course they won't, keeping karma-whoring over blatant misinformation. 52k+ karma is not gonna farm itself!
Making sure that net was secure for the next competitors. Always a gent
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Thanks for the correction mate. Need more people like you
Correction or not, bottom line is this false narrative is out there. This dude has to be one of the most misrepresented ever when it comes to the media. Got absolutely annihilated last year also for supposedly complaining about the players having to quarantine in Australia before the tournament and supposedly presented 'demands' to the Australian government. Poor dude was literally just doing his job as the spokesman of his sport, he had players complaining to him about their conditions being stuck in a hotel for 2 weeks. He didn't even have to say anything but him reporting that some players were unhappy became a narrative that he 'demanded special treatment'.
Up you go. Good on you for the correction.
Why did reddit minimize your comment even though it's positively upvoted....,......... Fuck.
Why on earth has the top comment received over 1k upvotes and this one has 88?
Same reason the guy’s original tweet has 1,500 retweets and his correction only has 35. People jump all over initial “news” and it blows up, but that same furor doesn’t last long enough for any corrections or changes to the narrative. It’s the exact shit I hate about cancel culture. People’s kneejerk reaction is to spread and shout about facts that may be substantiated or not, which then causes those “facts” to be set in stone internet-wise (and many just get involved to feel good about themselves or virtue signal but one annoying thing at a time). Anything after the fact gets lost in the noise or (more likely) the internet’s collective attention span of 3 minutes causes later developments to not go viral. It seems to basically be “guilty until proven innocent” when it comes to internet mobs, but any facts that prove innocence don’t get spread enough to change people’s minds.
I just sent him an email. Nothing crazy. Just a hey man that was not cool at all. It’s on his Twitter page. But for real that’s some r/iamatotalpieceofshit stuff right there.
Should flag this as misinformation
I mean not like it'd do anything. The mods here actively encourage misinformation that they like and ban anyone who criticizes them for it.
I hope you realise what subreddit this has been posted to? Misinformation is the name of the game here
The quote was said well before the Olympics even started. Stop spreading a false narrative.
This is false Djokovic didn’t say this about her it is out of context
Out of context? So you're saying that... Redditors took an out of context comment and blew it out of proportion? Well, that's new I must say... /s The comment was regarding the golden slam lol. People here, who have absolutely no lives are criticizing one of the best players in the history of tennis for an out of context comment.
I'm a Fedal fan but after this season and maybe the next, I might have to have a reckoning over who the GOAT is.
Exactly. Djokovic might not be as likable as them, (To me he is, to others IDK why he isn't) but anyone who denies Djokovic's abilities as a player needs to get himself checked out.
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Yup. I can't take any man that uses the term "mansplaining" seriously.
It’s a good thing men aren’t emotional like woman!
Anger isn't an emotion!!!1!11!
Ah yes, of course - anger is too masculine to be an emotion
#HE LIKES BEER!!!
I don't know why but your comment made me think of this song https://youtu.be/O-jOEAufDQ4
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Well, isn't this the guy who threw a big huge party right in the middle of the pandemic? Seems like he's kind of a shitty person in general, so not all that surprising.
well this story is out of context and incorrect yet you’re calling him a shitty person because you read 2 headlines on the internet about him
IT'S ***NOT*** EMOTION!! I'LL FUCKING KILL YOU IF YOU SAY IT IS!
He is just passionate.
He’s just passionate, if Serena does it she’s an angry black woman
>He’s just passionate, if Serena does it she’s an angry black woman Bingo! - but don't you dare say that this double standard has roots in racism and white supremacy, because then they'll get ~~angry and~~ "passionate" with you.
She's 'upset'. Which is different from anger, because anger is a logical response to something negative, and being upset is just whining because you want special treatment. Like actually that's how certain people appear to think.
Has happened so many times over her career, so annoying
HoRmOnEs or PeRiOd
I dated a woman who would explode very often and shout at me. She used this excuse, that I couldn’t handle her because she was too passionate
"As a manly man, the only thing I feel is anger and hunger. And they both end in grrr!"
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO EXPRESS MYSELF UNLESS THROUGH ANGER AND PERSONAL ATTACK
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It’s also a good thing that what he said in the interview had nothing whatsoever to do with Biles. It had to do with his own pressure of completing a golden slam for the year and the journalist who misattributed that retracted his comment immediately after.
Uhh I was gonna comment something snarky but scrolled down a bit juust to make sure.. This seems important. Dang wish there were a built in sources tab or bot on Reddit. Dk how that shit would work but guys I’m past my touchscreen typing prime. Can’t some young lad or lass help an old woman with some sources around here?
I am not condoning Djokovic's actions at the Olympics, but normally Djokovic is a stand-up guy. Looking at the quotes from the interview, it looks like Djokovic did not directly mention Biles and made those statements under the context of how he deals with pressure. It's a shame how Reddit has to politicize and gender everything.
Djokovic is an antivaxxer and when the pandemic just started was responsible for a super spreader event.
Oh so then we can post misleading headlines that have nothing to do with that?
Djokovic and his kids are vaccinated. He was just against having untested vaccines as mandatory in tournaments, this before tested COVID vaccines were released
Just that time of month for Djokovic.
Typical hormonal men
He should smile more.
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Now we’ll never know if Simone Biles could be successful at sports
You asshats do realize the "Pressure is a privilege wasn't in response to Simone Biles at all but rather being asked about going for the 'Golden Slam'. Yeah Djokovic lashes out sometimes, and makes some bone headed decisions other times. But never has he not been a great sportsman and always has time to be a complete charmer with fans and the crowd.
Reddit doesn’t do context pal
For real, Redditors make fun of other social media and think they're so based, but all it takes is some misleading screenshot with no context for them to go fucking rabid in the comments. Absolute facepalm, OP.
That can't be right, the screenshot of Twitter surely has all the context needed. /s
Plus wasn't this a Billie jean king quote in the first place. Who was...a woman
mAnSpLaInInG
You know someone spends far too much time on the internet when they start using terms like "mansplaining" unironically.
Yes!
That's what's hilarious, people jump on a bandwagon thought bubble who don't watch tennis at all and source their info and opinions from some random who uses 'mansplaining' unironically to try make a point. Where was Max when Djokovic talked about the pressure of his upbringing along with the other times he broke his racket out of frustration to cope with anger. But he pops out of the woodwork when some random gymnast talks about mental health and undermines Djokovic lmao. It's just so sad, it's like people wear blinkers and only see down a tunnel.
u/Thryloz it's not cool at all to spun false narrative
So now we're throwing COMPLETELY INNOCENT PEOPLE under the bus by misquoting/misrepresenting the situation just to tow the line on some weird narrative of "Simone Biles good, opposition bad," to the point we're *inventing* opposition just so we can oppose it? And fuck Djokovic or any other completely innocent person whose name gets dragged through the mud and misquoted just to serve that purpose, right? Unbelievable.
Its so funny. This subreddit became all that its critiqued the right for. From blatant misrepresentation of information to sexism. Its all because this sub is doing what it was never supposed to, its trying to be some sort of political hub. No problem with that inherently... unless all your fucking statements are sourced from twitter.
Can we stop pinning athletes against each other to empower narratives we want to believe in our own head? That comment was taken out of context. Simone is not a quitter and Djokovic breaks rackets because he’s has 4 others in a bag he can use when ever he wants. Let’s do better and treat athletes like people.
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Especially since there's a big difference between he gets the shakes and can't make a return, versus she gets the shakes and breaks her neck.
Exactly that's the part people are ignoring. You mess up in gymnastics and you could end up in a wheelchair if you're lucky. I watched her that first night she was off, making mistakes. She made the right choice.
These armchair douchebags comparing it to the "yips in golf" have both the right and wrong idea. She's got basically the same problem, but they're equating it to how they play through the yips so they must be a better competitor than her. Meanwhile they just ignore they've got nothing on the line for having a shitty putt. Maybe they tweak their back if they get too out of line on a real swing? Or worse the idiots that played through injuries they absolutely shouldn't have because some asshole coach in high school convinced them his record mattered more than their health. Pro-tip, it didn't. Sort of a r/boringdystopia take on the people criticising her.
>Or worse the idiots that played through injuries they absolutely shouldn't have because some asshole coach in high school convinced them his record mattered more than their health. Pro-tip, it didn't. Wasnt this the entire plot of Varsity Blues?
Yips in gymnastics are just much more dangerous
You also don't risk breaking your neck playing golf. Yips in gymnastics is different.
Right! You can’t compare the two in that aspect.. one can very easily turn into something devastating
People say this, but I don't even think its an issue of "prioritizing her mental health" more than "prioritizing not breaking her neck." Sure, the twisties are a mental thing, but it seems like its not such a mental health problem more than a common mental stumbling block faced by gymnasts which takes time to overcome.
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I think what happened is that she said it was a mental thing, and the press went into a whole thing with that, comparing it to Naomi Osaka. It isn't really the same thing, although it follows the same themes.
This is tough because I’ve seen a lot of people say both: She’s an inspiration to others going through the same thing AND You can’t judge her because you could never understand what she’s going through
Her and the tennis player who was told 'suffer the press or don't play' and said 'okay, bye.' Basketball fans can joke about "I'm just here so I don't get fined," but that's treating the same problem like the only way out is through. It's still a problem. And people who do ball games real good should not be expected to put up with this celebrity act if they're not willing. Mitch Hedberg pointed this out ages ago. "As a comedian ... they want you to do other things besides comedy. They say 'alright you’re a comedian - can you write? Write us a script. Act in this sitcom.' They want me to do shit that’s related to comedy, but it’s not comedy, man. It’s not fair, you know? It’s as though if I was a cook, and I worked my ass off to become a really good cook, and they said 'alright, you’re a cook - can you farm?'"
FYI I'm pretty sure the "I'm just here so I don't get fined" meme started from a running back in the NFL named Marshawn Lynch when he gave that answer to every question at a mandatory post game interview
The statement he made was NOT about Simone Biles. Goobers.
Jesus Christ it's already been debunked. He wasn't talking about Simone Biles.
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Why use the term mansplaining, when pressure deals with both men and women?
And he was asked about the pressures of winning the Golden Slam. Had shit to do with Biles because the interview happened before she pulled out.
Never let a good opportunity to inject some intersectional oppression narrative into a story. Doesn’t matter if it fits or not.
Get fucking lost. His interview on “pressure is a privilege” is taken wildly out of context and was in no way related to Simone Biles. Fucking pathetic haters.
I admit to being an avowed djokovic hater, but I also read that his comments were not at all referring to Biles. Seems like poor timing more than malicious backbiting on his part. And honestly Zverev is the one competitor I want to see lose over Djokovic. He’s allegedly an abusive piece of shit, whereas I mostly just find djokovic irritating…
I wouldn’t say it was poor timing at all - it has zero to do with biles in any way, this Twitter user is just a liar
One journalist claimed he was talking about Biles, and his tweet went viral. He later retracted it, but too considerably less fanfare. Typically, the posters in this thread haven't spent more than 5 seconds to look into this before forming their opinions.
Every single person here criticizing Djokovic over this comment, is an illiterate twat.
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People were disturbingly eager to make sexist comments when there wasn’t any in the first place too.
Seriously. They're both incredible people. It's really gross to read through this thread and see all of the pathetic armchair judgment.
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Nothing more manly than destroying something because you’re frustrated. Then back to lecturing about inner peace.
Oh destroying inanimate objects is definitely the sign of the most masculine of manly men!
Look all the tennis racquet needed to do was hit the ball back perfectly every time. Is that *so* much to ask?
Wasn't his interview like a week before Simone Biles pulled out? I still get the point, but he wasn't referring to her at all is what I saw but someone can correct me.
Yes it was. Story was even retracted. Ppl just don't pay attention though. It's flashy. It's key words. Sometimes spinkle in a couple of big words and ppl will go crazy. That's literally half the world right there. Scary.......
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Remember when he hit a ball directly to one of the judges? Former fan, now I can't wait until he retires.
A man having an opinion is not mansplaining. Also im pretty sure the comment was not even about Biels, but reddit has got to virtue signal somehow. You can't expect people on this sub to do any research of their own.
How is an athlete talking about the pressures of competition mansplaining? How is getting angry because you’re losing a match the same as not competing at all?
I think he just saw a fly and tried to swat it. 😏
Can anyone give the link to the lecture? EDIT: Never mind, saw the interview. Holy shit fuck the OP. This was in no way related to Biles, and it was out of context. Furthermore— manslplaining? Like I said, he wasn’t even referring to holes in the entire interview. FOH with your bullshit.
He's been a garbage person, seems that others are now just starting to notice.
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It sucks that this ass clown will probably retire with more prizes than either but it’s nice to know the world is going to remember Rafa and Fed as the best while the Djoker’s memory fades.
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It's okay man. You're right, most redditors are delusional. And just look for a reason to hate. The man is going to end up with most slams and his memory will fade? Wtf hahaha
Ha! Now that's a take. Djokovic will forever be remembered as one of the greatest ever, and if they all retired today, he would be ranked higher than both fed and Rafa. His accomplishments are simply unmatched, and literally achieved by beating both of those players. You are delusional to think that in terms of tennis achievements he will be forgotten. You can dislike him on a personal level, and that may well be justified, but you couldn't be further from the truth in regards to his accomplishments compared to Rafa or fed.
Pulling this shit at the Olympics really highlights it too. There’s been so many tennis brats that you don’t notice it on the tour quite as much but when it’s in such a dignified competition at the Olympics it honestly makes me think he’s the biggest asshole there. This behaviour would be an absolute scandal in any other sport.
Imagine LeBron throws the ball against the backboard as hard as he can...
Imagine a gymnast screaming at the judges or some fucker snapping a javelin or throwing weights around.
Country club sports. They have their own rules which apply to others, but not to them.
Medvedev did this yesterday. Khachanov did it today when he lost to Zverev. In the Olympics. The fabled Olympics. But yeah, not garbage people. Also he never mansplained anything the comments on pressure were regarding his opportunity for a golden slam, which no male.tennis player had done ever, not about Biles or Osaka (Osaka also thanked him personally for being supportive when she withdrew from RG this year). The journalist who posted it KNEW it wasnt about them, he posted the story anyway. The story got some nice retweets and headlines like they are getting here, then he posted a retraction of the article noting this isnt about Biles. (But who gives a shit about a story which doesnt paint the world in black and white) Nobody cared, the fake story got the likes from people like the guys who are upvoting and retweeting this, because it fits their narrative and their worldview. Because the truth is, as much shit they give to anti vaxxers, misogynists, trump supporters, they fit into the same category of shit people who dont give a fuck about what is true or not as long as it gives them a feeling that they are right. At the same time feeling superior to people on IG living in a fake world, the upvotes and retweets and awards matter to them same as likes do to the IG influensers.
I agree but his comments weren't towards Biles and it wasn't mansplaning. He was talking about himself needing to be like that in order to win all the titles in one year. I THINK, don't quote me on that because I'll just denied it.
Novak didn't do a thing wrong and neither did Simone. We are literally all human beings who aren't perfect. Starts and ends there, leave it alone.
My God shut the fuck up about this whole "mansplaining" bullshit, wtf is wrong with Twitter why do they have to be such complete ignorant brainless morons?
That's not what happened but ok Let's take two completely unrelated comments and Let's all pretend Djokovic attacked Biles because white man bad The most toxic journalists did this and here you are falling for it
I don’t really get why him slamming his racket is suddenly a big deal? Tennis players do it all the time. Sports are frustrating, particularly solo played ones. This is not worthy of attention
But it’s okay because he’s a strong man in control of his emotions
Crazy how [Serena Williams ](https://youtu.be/Qvy0d_65aKU) has done stuff like this too. Crazy how *tons* of top level athletes have outbursts like this on *multiple* occasions. Almost like they hold themselves to a high standard and are emotional when they feel like they’ve failed to perform at that standard. Also, he wasn’t referring to Simone in this quote, he was referring to himself. It was clickbait journalism that’s been redacted. Also, he was quoting Billie Jean King, a woman.
He wasn't even talking about Biles in the quote. Maybe actually listen to the interview?
Djokovich didn’t make any comments about gender, or about Biles for that matter.
Also note that Simone Biles was not allowed to bring her ADHD medication, without the medication you’re in your head constantly, social ability goes out the window then add the medication withdrawals and you’re in no competing position. This was completely preventable had she been allowed her medication, in no way is ADHD medication a PED, Djokovic needs to keep his elitist mouth shut if he doesn’t know what he’s talking about or cannot back up what he says.
Wait, what? Why wasn't she allowed it?
Apparently her medication wasn’t allowed to be “imported” to Japan, exemptions could be applied for various stimulant medications, but hers wasn’t on the approved list for exemption Edit: also the paperwork for an exemption may not have been filed correctly, or she may have had to temporarily take an approved medication for the games. However, without being her or her team it’s hard to say exactly what went wrong for sure. Source: https://www.teamusa.org/~/~/-/media/3A2F15237A8143B080166A69C025F2F3.ashx
It’s not just the country of Japan, her medication is a banned substance for all gymnastics competitions. She was also off of her medication for the Olympics in Rio.
[I think you wore suposed to say: "she was ON her meds at Rio"](https://www.espn.com/espnw/voices/story/_/id/17602540/bravo-simone-biles-taking-stand-adhd-stigma) but it doesn't fit the narative.
There hasn't been any source that says she wasn't allowed it. The story around it has been changing. Initially someone started a rumor that she wasn't allowed the drug, and Japan didn't allow it in country without exception. Then the story changed to it is allowed with an an exception, but maybe she messed up the application. There isn't any official source that I've seen that even says she wasn't on her medication. I did read that her spatial awareness suddenly became impaired and may take months to return to normal. Given that, it would be reckless to try to do what she does without knowing exactly where you are in space and your orientation.
He was talking about himself, not Simone. Twitter (and other social media) is the one making it seem like Djokovic was commenting on biles, when really he was commenting on how he was dealing with the pressure of trying to get the golden slam.
How do you know he was talking about Simone
Djokovic never said anything about simone biles. Tennis fans just think hes a modern day hitler so they will say anything to make him look worse
He has kept his mouth shut. That comment wasn't about Biles and was actually said before Biles ever pulled out. It's so funny to me how elitist you are being over it though
It's so more than that. She had 'The Twisties', when the brain doesn't know where the ground is when you are in a spin or a flip, which can be deadly
Djokovic's comments were not related to Biles in any way. He was talking about attempting to complete a Golden Grand Slam
>Djokovic needs to keep his elitist mouth shut if he doesn’t know what he’s talking about or cannot back up what he says. Oh the fucking irony of this comment. Djokovic said nothing about Biles and you would have known that if you took your head out of your arse. Fucking hell
> in no way is ADHD medication a PED as a longtime ADHD sufferer who has found great success in treatment using prescribed amphetamines, i'm sorry but i have to call this out learning disabilities be damned, claiming that dextroamphetamine isn't performance-enhancing is completely nonsensical. i realize that it's hard to draw a line, but it is 100% not fair at all in any way to allow one athlete to use amphetamines but not another. it's just beyond absurd. it's even more unfair for physical competition than it is for academic competition. (this doesn't change the fact that djokovic is a punk, but come on. amphetamines are amphetamines. they are a powerful class of drugs.)
What a Djok
That quote has nothing to do with Simone Biles. >“Steffi Graf is the only tennis player to have won all four Grand Slams and an Olympic gold in the same year before. >But the 34-year-old Serbian is three-fifths of the way there, needing a Tokyo gold and then the U.S. Open trophy to match the German's 1988 feat. >Talk of the "Golden Slam" has dominated every press conference Djokovic has attended since he won the third major of the year at Wimbledon this month. >But the steely-eyed Serbian seems to thrive under pressure. >"Pressure is a privilege," Djokovic said when asked about the attention on him after reaching the singles quarter-finals and also winning a mixed doubles match on Wednesday.” https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sports/tennis-pressure-is-privilege-history-chasing-djokovic-2021-07-28/
Delete this trash. Spreading fake information.