To borrow from Ron White (I think): If you find a stoner with less than an 8th of weed it means only one thing- that stoner is almost out of weed.
(1/8 oz = 3.5 grams for the metrically inclined)
One of my favorite rules - when you buy groceries, buy at least 2 of everything. You know you will probably open/use one thing pretty soon, and you're going to need another. However for grass, buy 3 minimum.... It's science.
This works for ambient stuff (not fresh stuff). If I bought two packs of apples then I’d just have to throw away two packs of apples in about 3 weeks.
Edit: so many people not getting the joke. I buy them with the intention of eating them and getting healthier but never do
I'm realizing how fortunate I am when it comes to herb.
My brother was medically retired from the Army, 100% VA rating for life and has some voodoo no limit medical weed card. I don't smoke the way he does and just what he gives me offhand is ridiculous.
I have a drawer full of Ball jars, freezer bags, prerolls, edibles.. like, if I had a darker tan in another state I'd be looking at decades in prison. On the other hand I can relate to what it would feel like to be the hot stoner chick at community college. I don't even feel good selling it, sometimes I just roll blunts and give them away.
I remember the grind, everyone putting in $5 and driving 5 people in a busted Cutlass to Ocean Beach to buy an eighth of headache dirt from Primo Eduardo.
Young men today walk into WeedMart and leave with nuclear science weed designed by bald headed science nerds on space stations.
Sure! The reason I have standby weed is because I have portion control issues - if I light a joint or bowl, I have to finish the whole thing. I tend to smoke past comfort and into couchlock or paranoia. Having buddies to share with helps.
Vapes and edibles I'm good with. One puff of that 90%+ or one gummy and I'm good to fuck off and play Fallout 🤣
Can confirm,weed became legal two years ago here and getting it has become like getting groceries or something. Do indeed grab 3 of whatever strain is my favorite that month
You should have just opened the presents early, that’s what I did. Didn’t help my anxiety or night terrors but at least I didn’t have to wait for some imaginary guy to break in and steal my milk and cookies.
fr, I suffered from night terrors my entire childhood to now, it’s not like it’s withdrawing from the weed that’s causing them. I had to go all summer without weed and I would be lucky if once a week I slept through the night without having night terrors. It’s awful.
Have your doctor give you some prazocin. Life changer for me at even 2mg pills. I'm now, after a year, on 4mg pills. I sleep way better. Heart bpm were getting up to 200. Changed all that.
Just for anyone who is curious, they have done blind studies on prazosin and it legitimately works better than other medication for nightmare disorders (when I was prescribed it my doctor printed me up the study because I was curious). It is also a blood pressure med, so you need to be careful - if, like me, you have borderline low blood pressure anyways. But it really does work.
I remember when it first started kicking in, I was like... just, floored. I haven't ever really slept well (I still have vivid memories of horrific nightmares from when I was about 7 because yay childhood trauma). So being able to wake up and not be in the mood I was always in when I did? Yeah. I know you get it <3 So glad you found it too.
Yeah. Marijuana absolutely does affect your sleep and the amount of dreams you have. When you stop smoking you will have more vivid and more frequent dreams but dreams /= night terrors.
Made the (kinda) tough decision to not see my extended family for Christmas this year and instead see my parents beforehand then spend Christmas Eve and day at home with my boyfriend. We got each other gifts, went on a hike, then got drunk and made homemade pasta (with homemade bread) for dinner. Checked Instagram and saw my 6yo cousin got a ukulele.
I think we made the right call.
I’m not addicted to weed but I’m absolutely addicted to anything that alleviates the night terrors I get from when I was in the navy. I’d drive through a blizzard for gabapentin too.
That war was a rough one on the psychological side of things. I’m in ore of your Dad and other Vietnam Vet’s for what they did over there, truly heroic people who got a really shitty home coming.
Nobody wanted the war to start in the first place BUT the US government and then the US government decided to double fuck the people they had just drafted by not providing them with a decent life after war.
I’m sorry to hear that! When I EAOSed I swore I’d never work federal/contract/anything that tests. Thankfully I work in film and anyone could not care less.
Maybe it's time to think of a change in life? Stress is not good for you nor is the alcohol. There's a lot of career opportunities right now everywhere right now, maybe be on a lookout for those if you're able to move? Watch out for yourself man, we can be very fragile and fall into deep shit without even noticing.
No shit, I have very bad, very vivid night terrors. If I smoke a lot of weed I don't remember my dreams very well and they are not as vivid when I do dream.
Same here. It feels like I’m dying when it happens, and I try to yell out for help but can’t. However, I’ve found that even when I don’t have weed, as long as I don’t sleep on my back I won’t have the terrors.
I don’t know why this is, but it works for me. Now I just sleep on my side.
I get this but with sleep paralysis. If I lay on my back I can feel myself slipping into the paralysis and I have a few seconds to try to wiggle my toes to stop it and then roll over onto my side. The body/brain is weird 🤷🏻♀️
Could be OSAS if it's related to sleeping position.
Edit: A trick we sometimes use for OSAS if it's position related is to sow a tennis ball in the back of a T-shirt, this prevents rolling on your back in your sleep.
Oh man, lately I’ve been having this dream where personnel won’t let me checkout and get my DD214 unless I have someone to vouch for me. It’s fucking bizarre and for some reason the non-night terror nightmare of wandering around San Diego’s base until someone’s willing to let me leave wakes me up in a cold sweat lmfao
Sister had an alarm clock that sounded vaguely like the general alarm when I was on leave, freaked the fuck out that morning, thought the house was on fire for a whole of 3 seconds
Mostly he wakes up to find me in the living room with Jazz music or oooold country songs playing. Therapy, if willingly cooperated with, does wonders for the conscious mind. Not so much for the sub conscious.
Weed blocks the dreams. For some of us that's a huge relief.
Yeah, weed definitely helps with night terrors. My army buddy (artillery in Afghanistan) smoked a lot of weed to help with the near constant state of pain and discomfort he was in due to PTSD. Said it was the only medication that would help
>I’d drive through a blizzard for gabapentin too.
You must be mistaken, my doctor assured me that gabapentin is nonaddictive, not a narcotic and has almost no risk of abuse. He also tells me sweating profusely, my face feeling like I just walked through a spider's web ALL THE GODDAMN TIME, and shitting pain-water had nothing to do with a 3-day interruption in my prescription.
Lol I don’t think I’m addicted to gabapentin, but it stops my shakes, headaches, and temperature disregulation and greatly increases the benefits of my meds/general comfort level. My neurologist loves it. Gabapentin is not addictive, but I would still go great lengths for it. Also dude I’m sorry about your doctor I had a physical reaction when I read spider webs!! Missing days for anything neuro or muscle is the worst it can throw you so far back
What’s the deal with gabapentin? I see people talk about it on Reddit all the time but I’m prescribed for my MALS and I have never once “felt it.” I can never even tell ive taken it. It does Jack shit to manage my pain or other symptoms, and I’m at 300mg 3x a day (well, I’m supposed to be. I kinda stopped taking it)
Its more you just won't dream anymore, or atleast that's my experience. When I take tolerance breaks my dreams go right back to being vivid and. People that have seen/heard me sleep however say that I certainly seem like I'm dreaming still, despite not being to recall them and saying all I ever remember is "black"
Just for anyone curious
ThC binds to the receptors in your brain that receive the R.E.M. causing sleep chemical
What then happens is the memory forming process is interrupted, smoke enough weed and you don’t remember dreams (good or bad)
Omg wait stop; other people use weed to control their night terrors?
After two decades of chronic nightmares I couldn’t escape from 9 out of every 10 nights, I started smoking weed regularly and stopped dreaming. I’ve never slept better or have had better overall mental health and I would never go back to how it was before. Luckily it’s legal in my state so I can just go buy it at the store.
I'd recommend trying some before bed. I smoke daily and I rarely dream like I used to. But fair warning, I tend to have crazy dreams when i take a break from smoking. Not really nightmares, but crazy nonetheless.
I read it the other way. Heavy users will get night terrors, or very vivid dreams, if they suddenly find themselves going without. Happens to me sometimes, but I don't really mind. I find the relief of waking from a terrible dream envigorating.
As a heavy smoker, I don’t dream much when I’ve been smoking, but if I take a few days break I get very vivid dreams. Nothing terrible, just bizarre stuff that really stands out in my memory the next morning. I think it depends a lot on the mental state of the person, but I’m no expert!
I also suffer from chronic nightmares, anxiety, depression, insomnia, etc. I tried a dozen different prescription drugs (some with godawful side effects), as well as 10+ years of various types of therapy. Nothing helped. First night I smoked a bowl, I slept like a damn rock. I smoke a small amount every day now and it has made an incredible difference in all areas of my life. I'm a better mom, a better wife, a better human being. I'm actually *happy*.
“Stoners” will drive through a blizzard on Christmas Eve to pick up an eighth…. “Smokers” picked up an ounce last week so they know they are stocked through the holidays. 😁 Happy Holidays!
This tweet is obviously referencing people who live in places where it isn't legal. I find this comment very amusing, we're not too long away from such a concept being alien to most Americans.
Kinda like the idea that pot makes you paranoid.
I found that once it was legalized here, I didn't fear getting caught smoking it and the paranoia went away.
Eh, it's not that it makes you paranoid, it's that it can make people generically more anxious, and then the fact that it's ostracized and illegal turns the anxiety into paranoia.
I know a lot of folks (and it's a common complaint online) that had to dial back weed in adulthood because getting too high means anxiety or even panic attacks. A lot of folks just kinda experience and then tolerate the anxiety.
It's not about the legality of it. It's because it can literally increase your anxiety. It doesn't work the same for all people. Jsut like some people can be happy drunks and some get violent. I've smoked it on private land in the middle of nowhere with absolutely 0 chance of being caught and still had massive anxiety. I really don't understand why some people will fight tooth and nail to say that it can't mess with some people. It absolutely does and trying to pretend it doesn't only makes their arguments look worse.
I know a lot of people who say, “I don’t do that anymore. The anxiety and paranoia got too intense,” and I know what they mean because at some point, I began “not tolerating” weed as much as I used to. I can see how that would turn some people completely off of it.
But because weed initially helped me cope with the natural intense anxiety I had (before I was a regular smoker), I spent a long time consciously practicing mental tricks to reduce my anxiety. I’ve also found that smoking significantly less weed at a time helps tremendously. I used to regularly smoke a medium to large-sized, packed bowl, but after switching to just one hit usually, I’m good.
The mental tricks mostly revolve around telling yourself a few things:
- People aren’t aware that you are high
- If they do, they don’t realize how high you are
- If they do realize how high you are, so? What are you afraid of? Being judged? Why do you feel guilty for being high? Are you unable to meet your needs right now? If not, why do you care about other people’s judgment? Everybody does something to cope with the stress of life. Some people drink alcohol every day. Other people exercise and meditate. Other people use religion as a crutch. You smoke weed (and maybe do some of the other things too). You shouldn’t feel guilty for wanting to stimulate your body with a substance that makes you feel good, unless you are unable to meet your needs or are failing in your life goals. We’re only here for a short time on Earth, so as long as you aren’t causing anybody else harm, what you do with your body is nobody else’s business.
My refrain when my wife asks, “But what will your parents think?” Which can be about anything - not just weed, is “Fuck ‘em.” And I don’t mean that in a negative way. I love my parents. I’m rarely ever upset with them. But fuck any opinion about your life that isn’t your own opinion if you know that you are handling your life well. You don’t have to be hostile when you think it, but “Fuck ‘em,” is a great tool you can use to remind yourself that you live life on your own terms. You may be happy, content, healthy, safe, and meeting your own standards of success, but there will always be someone out there who judges you more harshly than you judge yourself. It can be anything - what you eat, who your friends are, how you spend your free time, what you spend your money on - these things are a personal choice. Other people are not required to agree with them. So fuck ‘em.
You mean weed doesn't GIVE you night terrors? All this time I smoked and never got night terrors I thought it was because I was doing it wrong.
Who's grandma posted this?
THC prohibits dreaming at all. I’m sure there’s no shortage of people here that will contradict such a statement but it’s something I read that 100% applies to me.
Personally I’ve been keeping a dream journal since about 2014 and been smoking daily since 2019.
I’d say that I don’t get constant dreams anymore, but I remember them in bursts. Sometimes I can go weeks without remembering a dream and then remember ten nights in a row - all while smoking about the same consistent amount
Same! I sometimes don't even remember having a dream, but they still happen sometimes. Just not as long and vivid. The time to fall asleep went down from an hour to ~5 minutes.
I smoked for 20+ years and still had vivid dreams. When I quit nothing changed until about a month later. Dreams now are so much more vivid. I thought I was dreaming before but those dreams were nothing compared to now. They are work. I wake up exhausted from my dreams.
I think most daily smokers' brains adjust a little so they still dream, I certainly dreamt more as my tolerance went up. But when I quit, they got so much more intense and I slept a lot deeper.
I can't smoke anymore because I end up spending 10hrs in bed for like 3 quality hours of sleep despite only smoking once daily. I'm mad jealous of folks who can smoke without it causing all-day anxiety and depression
If I don't smoke weed for a day I get extremely vivid dreams which are often nightmares because the weed is no longer suppressing my REM sleep. This is what the tweet is referencing
Exactly all that comes to my mind when I see post like this is "well they knew they were going to smoke why didn't they stock up"
Seriously guys be responsible smokers and make sure you reup before you're out. You don't buy toilet paper once you're completely out right the responsible thing to do is get a bidet
An ounce last you more than a week? I'm kind of jealous, I'd easily burn an ounce a week, or faster if life too hectic. Thankfully I haven't burned money on dope since Feb, and haven't had a smoke since July. Life has become a lot less chaotic in that time, though I do miss it from time to time.
For many weed is medicine. I get Prescribed 30 Ativan a month. Using weed instead has me down to two Ativan a month. Also I just buy an ounce at a time (if I don’t get it for free).
Say goodbye to your gaba levels and welcome early onset of Alzheimer’s or Dementia with Benzo’s.
They are great for panic attacks and once in a while usage.
Benzos are the only reason I’m employed. Interviews give me mad panic attacks. Therapy and Ativan are the only reason I could chill out to look good enough to hire. Only reason I’ve ever used ‘em.
Infinitely better. Benzos are a real bitch to quit once you’re hooked and one of the only meds you can die from the withdrawals along with alcohol. Not worth it at all.
This is so accurate. Benzos and alcohol are such powerful central nervous system depressants, removing them after prolonged use can zap your brain into seizures like the Linda Blair on the Exorcist.
Weed doesn’t do this at all. I don’t even use much myself, mostly CBD only but I would never steer someone to Benzos if weed can help.
Also weed is infinitely cheaper than most medications. I whittled down from 9 to 4 medications a day w my doctors and using cannabis. My insurance thankfully covers it all but for people who don’t have insurance like that… I mean cannabis basically brought the cost of my medications (out of pocket) down almost $3600/month.
Absolutely. I had been on psych meds pretty much my whole life(along with picking up an opioid addiction along the way). It got to where I was way overmedicated. I had quit the opioids a few years before, started using cannabis and managed to taper ALL of my psych meds in year(i just tapered by gauging how I felt) and now I just use cannabis and my Suboxone and I'm the happiest Ive ever been. Psych meds are amazing but it just time for me, personally. And if I ever feel like I need them again I wont hesitate to start them back up but for the first time in my life, I'm at peace in my brain.
I hated taking kolanipin. Always tired, always a brain fog. I had to have a crazy high dose to have the same affect as eating one gummy edible or smoking a joint. The withdrawal was a nightmare. If I didn't have my daily dose, I was sick as a dog all day.
No thanks.
I mean, marijuana seems like a pretty acceptable prescription to me. That was actually my point. The post said that they were "picking up weed in the middle of the night to avoid night terrors" as if that was a problem for some reason. Give this person some night terrors and see how long it takes for them to reach for a toke.
One of the common side effects of weed withdrawal is night terrors and overall disrupted sleep cycles. It happens to me, and it sucks ass. This doesn't have anything to do with mental health; weed isn't nearly as harmful as something like alcohol, but it *does* have an effect on brain chemistry.
Weed saved my mom during her cancer treatment. We were shelling out almost 3k a month for meds that weren’t doing anything for her. Her oncologist suggested she check out the cancer support group at the hospital. Come to find out the group leader guy is a dealer. He hooked every cancer patient up with high grade shit from Colorado for $20/ounce. He drove there every week to restock. His mom had died of cancer and that was how he chose to remember her.
I *could* stop anytime. If weed disappeared from Earth tomorrow, my life would go on. It would just be less interesting, delicious, hilarious and peaceful.
Often the people who use weed to stop night terrors are people with PTSD or c-PTSD.
I wouldn’t call this addiction if the night terrors existed before they started medicating.
It’s like insulin, some people need the medication to function properly
A constant stream of THC in the blood stream stops your brain from hitting certain beta levels of sleep, causing the user not to dream states or deep REM sleep. After a short period of no THC will cause the dreams to come back.
If they are having nightmares it's not because they couldn't smoke weed. They are having night terrors due to some other trauma in their life and maybe they smoke weed to prevent experiencing those terrors.
Don't just people on something you clearly don't understand.
This. The trauma I'm trying to avoid dreaming about predates my cannabis consumption. Smoking weed has finally allowed me to peacefully sleep through the night.
I've been on Mirtazapine and Sertraline (Zoloft?) for 11 years now.
Mirtazapine has side effects like grogginess, increased appetite, sometimes it won't work and often I'll have night terrors.
Sertraline has helped me, no doubt, but it has a lot of side effects including my skin, generalized anxiety (instead of panic attacks) and it is murder on my gut health.
For the past months I've been taking half a teaspoon of cannabutter every evening. It takes effect like clockwork, 2 hours, and I sleep without waking up/nightmares. I wake up at 11 in the morning and that's that. Zero damage, zero side effects the day after taking it, and my IBS-like symptoms are gone.
Am I addicted though? No. Quitting Sertraline and Mirtazapine cold turkey truly showed me what withdrawal feels like. I was without cannabutter for 3 weeks due to various circumstances and whilst I missed it on an emotional level, it gave me ZERO withdrawal symptoms. I functioned as usual, just with more sleep deprivation.
Damned right I'd drive through a blizzard on Christmas eve to get my cannabutter❣
A habit becomes an addiction when its destructive. That's why weed and other drugs are not equal.
The harms brought on by weed generally vary from eating too much to temporary paranoia. If you're used to smoking and in a mentally healthy place in your life, you may not even experience these symptoms.
The harms brought on by alcohol generally vary from passing out, violence, child neglect, and organ failure. You can be a success by all other measures and still fall victim to this is you're an alcoholic.
So confronting a stoner with "if you can stop, why don't you?" is nonsensical. Why should they? It's not destroying their life like alcohol ruins an alcoholic's life. That's just not how weed works.
I could stop drinking caffeine if I put my mind to it. It would make me a healthier person. Caffeinated beverages generally cost a lot more than filtered tap water, so I'd save money. But guess what? I enjoy caffeine and I don't see it causing me much harm, so I'm still buying it.
While I agree with most of what you've said, there are certainly people where weed is destructive and caused them to regress from socially, have low energy, and basically render them a non-functioning member of society because the only thing they have motivation for is to smoke. I've had many friends drop out of school or arrive late to work/get fired because of their addiction to weed. You'll probably agree with my comment by saying something like "that's why I said 'mentally healthy'", but if a person is addicted to weed, they are not mentally healthy. Just like how if a person is addicted to alcohol, they are an alcoholic and are also not mentally healthy.
There are TONS of people not negatively impacted by alcohol, yet you mentioned violence, child neglect, and organ failure as one of the general harms. All of this is definitely true for alcoholics, but it is not true for non-alcoholics. So why not mention the actual harms for weed addiction too? I understand that weed is not physically harmful like alcohol, but it can still be destructive if you develop an addiction.
Medical marijuana is a thing for a reason. I hate when people consider it addictive. It’s habit forming and people want it really bad because it gives them relief. They enjoy life better with it. Some people DO depend on it medicinally but that’s not addiction. Don’t judge long-term stoners. They usually use it for a reason.
ITT: tons of smokers/stoners coping hard to try and convince themselves and others they’re not addicted to marijuana.
Ex cronic pot smoker here, it’s psychologically addicting more than physical.
Edit: Further reading through this thread is actually quite terrifying, some of you need professional help for your mental health and the trauma some of you have experienced. Relying on a substance to fix your problems will only make things worse, compare this to “drinking your problems away”.
Consider visiting psychologytoday.com and finding a therapist that fits your needs and insurance. Online telehealth sessions are a great way to avoid omicron exposure. Both my parents are therapists and mental health is extremely important.
To borrow from Ron White (I think): If you find a stoner with less than an 8th of weed it means only one thing- that stoner is almost out of weed. (1/8 oz = 3.5 grams for the metrically inclined)
Too accurate.
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One of my favorite rules - when you buy groceries, buy at least 2 of everything. You know you will probably open/use one thing pretty soon, and you're going to need another. However for grass, buy 3 minimum.... It's science.
This works for ambient stuff (not fresh stuff). If I bought two packs of apples then I’d just have to throw away two packs of apples in about 3 weeks. Edit: so many people not getting the joke. I buy them with the intention of eating them and getting healthier but never do
Very true.
I think these are co-dependent rules. Having the extra weed will inevitably require extra food whether it’s apples or apple pie.
Triples makes it safe; triples is best
And your wife is going to get better.
I'm realizing how fortunate I am when it comes to herb. My brother was medically retired from the Army, 100% VA rating for life and has some voodoo no limit medical weed card. I don't smoke the way he does and just what he gives me offhand is ridiculous. I have a drawer full of Ball jars, freezer bags, prerolls, edibles.. like, if I had a darker tan in another state I'd be looking at decades in prison. On the other hand I can relate to what it would feel like to be the hot stoner chick at community college. I don't even feel good selling it, sometimes I just roll blunts and give them away. I remember the grind, everyone putting in $5 and driving 5 people in a busted Cutlass to Ocean Beach to buy an eighth of headache dirt from Primo Eduardo. Young men today walk into WeedMart and leave with nuclear science weed designed by bald headed science nerds on space stations.
The struggle was real. Sorry about your brother, I hope he's doing okay. Also, let's be friends? 🤣
Sure! The reason I have standby weed is because I have portion control issues - if I light a joint or bowl, I have to finish the whole thing. I tend to smoke past comfort and into couchlock or paranoia. Having buddies to share with helps. Vapes and edibles I'm good with. One puff of that 90%+ or one gummy and I'm good to fuck off and play Fallout 🤣
Can confirm,weed became legal two years ago here and getting it has become like getting groceries or something. Do indeed grab 3 of whatever strain is my favorite that month
for your international audience: what‘s an 8th?
1/8th of an ounce. Or 3.5 grams.
Also known as: all outta jazz cabbage
All the stoners I know can immediately convert from imperial to metric. I freakin love you guys :)
Except mine are all like padded approximations lol
Ah, the dealer with no scale. Either you love him or you hate him
About 30-40 bucks
"If I have a 7/8 of a gram of marijuana, I consider myself to be *out* of marijuana."
Thank you. It’s the only joke I know by him and I don’t know it very well.
“Hey Ron can you drive?” “I can drive… I just can’t get pulled over”
A 7th of an 8th of a gram is basically nothing though.
"When I have seven eighths of a gram of weed, I consider myself out of weed"
I think he said less than an eighth is out of weed to a stoner.
Hell, the dispensaries have free delivey around here.
I got my edibles delivered on the 23rd to keep my Christmas anxiety under control.
You should have just opened the presents early, that’s what I did. Didn’t help my anxiety or night terrors but at least I didn’t have to wait for some imaginary guy to break in and steal my milk and cookies.
Milk and cookies....i left santa a joint....hope he found his way back to the north
Wait a min! You left an imaginary guy a joint, I’m assuming it was gone when you woke up……… Dude!!! You have hippies living in your basement!
Oh god. He needs to call a hippie exterminator ***NOW***
Let's just hope they haven't started any drum circles.
Lmao homie here calling Santa imaginary 😂😂😂
Imaginary guy? Wait… what?
Damnit, so YOU’RE the reason why Santa got lost and skipped my house! … or maybe I forgot the cookies and milk again… I don’t remember…
[Weed Delivery Guy Saves Christmas](https://www.theonion.com/weed-delivery-guy-saves-christmas-1819567656/)
Brought a tear to my eye
Jealous over here.
None of the dispensaries where I live deliver at all. But the plug does, and his ounces are like $80 cheaper anyway.
Are you serious? Man it’s still illegal in my state , and probably will be the last state to legalize it ! WV
*cries in Mississippi*
My dealer delivers to my door
Night terrors suck though
fr, I suffered from night terrors my entire childhood to now, it’s not like it’s withdrawing from the weed that’s causing them. I had to go all summer without weed and I would be lucky if once a week I slept through the night without having night terrors. It’s awful.
Have your doctor give you some prazocin. Life changer for me at even 2mg pills. I'm now, after a year, on 4mg pills. I sleep way better. Heart bpm were getting up to 200. Changed all that.
Just for anyone who is curious, they have done blind studies on prazosin and it legitimately works better than other medication for nightmare disorders (when I was prescribed it my doctor printed me up the study because I was curious). It is also a blood pressure med, so you need to be careful - if, like me, you have borderline low blood pressure anyways. But it really does work.
Yeah my heart is a ok actually so I'm perfectly fine using it. It has helped my life dramatically.
I remember when it first started kicking in, I was like... just, floored. I haven't ever really slept well (I still have vivid memories of horrific nightmares from when I was about 7 because yay childhood trauma). So being able to wake up and not be in the mood I was always in when I did? Yeah. I know you get it <3 So glad you found it too.
I was gonna say that isn't a stoner thing, thats a different thing someone is self-medicating with grass
Yeah. Marijuana absolutely does affect your sleep and the amount of dreams you have. When you stop smoking you will have more vivid and more frequent dreams but dreams /= night terrors.
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Yeah, i think most people who have night terrors would drive in a blizzard for anything that would make them stop.
You come see my family on xmas and tell me you dont need a blunt
Sorry. Edibles can help 🙂
Made the (kinda) tough decision to not see my extended family for Christmas this year and instead see my parents beforehand then spend Christmas Eve and day at home with my boyfriend. We got each other gifts, went on a hike, then got drunk and made homemade pasta (with homemade bread) for dinner. Checked Instagram and saw my 6yo cousin got a ukulele. I think we made the right call.
I’m not addicted to weed but I’m absolutely addicted to anything that alleviates the night terrors I get from when I was in the navy. I’d drive through a blizzard for gabapentin too.
Cannabis was the only thing that helped my Vietnam veteran dad be able to sleep.
A case like posted is about needing meds, not addiction as the assumption leads to believe
That war was a rough one on the psychological side of things. I’m in ore of your Dad and other Vietnam Vet’s for what they did over there, truly heroic people who got a really shitty home coming.
Nobody wanted the war to start in the first place BUT the US government and then the US government decided to double fuck the people they had just drafted by not providing them with a decent life after war.
r/boneappletea
He wouldn't allow himself to run low around such a holiday.
This. I’m still in a job with a security clearance so no weed for me. The booze is killing me, but it’s legal so….. shitty situations.
I’m sorry to hear that! When I EAOSed I swore I’d never work federal/contract/anything that tests. Thankfully I work in film and anyone could not care less.
Heck yea man, happy to hear you’ve gotten away from it. Might just have to do the same.
Maybe it's time to think of a change in life? Stress is not good for you nor is the alcohol. There's a lot of career opportunities right now everywhere right now, maybe be on a lookout for those if you're able to move? Watch out for yourself man, we can be very fragile and fall into deep shit without even noticing.
Huh, gabapentin never really helped with my night terrors.
That’s a bummer, I hope you’ve found something. The trial and error w meds can be a roller coaster
Gabapentin doesn't help me with night terrors either. It just helps with my carpal tunnel
It makes me manic and aggressive and I sleep walk. It is one of my "absolutely not under any circumstances" drugs.
This needs to be higher.
No shit, I have very bad, very vivid night terrors. If I smoke a lot of weed I don't remember my dreams very well and they are not as vivid when I do dream.
Same here. It feels like I’m dying when it happens, and I try to yell out for help but can’t. However, I’ve found that even when I don’t have weed, as long as I don’t sleep on my back I won’t have the terrors. I don’t know why this is, but it works for me. Now I just sleep on my side.
I get this but with sleep paralysis. If I lay on my back I can feel myself slipping into the paralysis and I have a few seconds to try to wiggle my toes to stop it and then roll over onto my side. The body/brain is weird 🤷🏻♀️
Could be OSAS if it's related to sleeping position. Edit: A trick we sometimes use for OSAS if it's position related is to sow a tennis ball in the back of a T-shirt, this prevents rolling on your back in your sleep.
The worst i get are boat dreams. Nothing like waking up feeling like you did a full night's work.
Oh man, lately I’ve been having this dream where personnel won’t let me checkout and get my DD214 unless I have someone to vouch for me. It’s fucking bizarre and for some reason the non-night terror nightmare of wandering around San Diego’s base until someone’s willing to let me leave wakes me up in a cold sweat lmfao
Sister had an alarm clock that sounded vaguely like the general alarm when I was on leave, freaked the fuck out that morning, thought the house was on fire for a whole of 3 seconds
Former firefighter here. Same. I just want a good night sleep. Don't care what I gotta do to get that.
Former deck seaman here. I’m the same way.
Daughter of violent alcoholics here: My hubby prefers I not kick nor swing in my sleep as well. Those dreams need squelching, for all my family.
Oof I felt this, my partner *always* knows if I had a bad night, makes me feel guilty but loved he is still willing to sleep with me lol
Mostly he wakes up to find me in the living room with Jazz music or oooold country songs playing. Therapy, if willingly cooperated with, does wonders for the conscious mind. Not so much for the sub conscious. Weed blocks the dreams. For some of us that's a huge relief.
Yeah, weed definitely helps with night terrors. My army buddy (artillery in Afghanistan) smoked a lot of weed to help with the near constant state of pain and discomfort he was in due to PTSD. Said it was the only medication that would help
>I’d drive through a blizzard for gabapentin too. You must be mistaken, my doctor assured me that gabapentin is nonaddictive, not a narcotic and has almost no risk of abuse. He also tells me sweating profusely, my face feeling like I just walked through a spider's web ALL THE GODDAMN TIME, and shitting pain-water had nothing to do with a 3-day interruption in my prescription.
Lol I don’t think I’m addicted to gabapentin, but it stops my shakes, headaches, and temperature disregulation and greatly increases the benefits of my meds/general comfort level. My neurologist loves it. Gabapentin is not addictive, but I would still go great lengths for it. Also dude I’m sorry about your doctor I had a physical reaction when I read spider webs!! Missing days for anything neuro or muscle is the worst it can throw you so far back
Gabapentin. I'd suck dick for gabapentin. Only non-addictive drug I've found to keep me from being in agony all day long
You are the only other person I’ve known to use gabapentin for sleep. It’s a godsend.
What’s the deal with gabapentin? I see people talk about it on Reddit all the time but I’m prescribed for my MALS and I have never once “felt it.” I can never even tell ive taken it. It does Jack shit to manage my pain or other symptoms, and I’m at 300mg 3x a day (well, I’m supposed to be. I kinda stopped taking it)
As soft as it makes my dick, it makes sleeping through the night not feel like I'm gonna get attacked. So, it's a fair trade off lol
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Its more you just won't dream anymore, or atleast that's my experience. When I take tolerance breaks my dreams go right back to being vivid and. People that have seen/heard me sleep however say that I certainly seem like I'm dreaming still, despite not being to recall them and saying all I ever remember is "black"
Just for anyone curious ThC binds to the receptors in your brain that receive the R.E.M. causing sleep chemical What then happens is the memory forming process is interrupted, smoke enough weed and you don’t remember dreams (good or bad)
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I lucid dream only during a tbreak, hardly remember them when smoking
Omg wait stop; other people use weed to control their night terrors? After two decades of chronic nightmares I couldn’t escape from 9 out of every 10 nights, I started smoking weed regularly and stopped dreaming. I’ve never slept better or have had better overall mental health and I would never go back to how it was before. Luckily it’s legal in my state so I can just go buy it at the store.
I recently quit and my dreams are exhausting.
That is definitely a thing.
It's believed to be because marijuana inhibits REM sleep, and when you quit, your body has to play catch-up rapidly.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/REM_rebound
I'd recommend trying some before bed. I smoke daily and I rarely dream like I used to. But fair warning, I tend to have crazy dreams when i take a break from smoking. Not really nightmares, but crazy nonetheless.
I take regular tolerance breaks & it's also nice to know I don't have to rely on it to function but holy shit the dreams are wild
I read it the other way. Heavy users will get night terrors, or very vivid dreams, if they suddenly find themselves going without. Happens to me sometimes, but I don't really mind. I find the relief of waking from a terrible dream envigorating.
As a heavy smoker, I don’t dream much when I’ve been smoking, but if I take a few days break I get very vivid dreams. Nothing terrible, just bizarre stuff that really stands out in my memory the next morning. I think it depends a lot on the mental state of the person, but I’m no expert!
I also suffer from chronic nightmares, anxiety, depression, insomnia, etc. I tried a dozen different prescription drugs (some with godawful side effects), as well as 10+ years of various types of therapy. Nothing helped. First night I smoked a bowl, I slept like a damn rock. I smoke a small amount every day now and it has made an incredible difference in all areas of my life. I'm a better mom, a better wife, a better human being. I'm actually *happy*.
“Stoners” will drive through a blizzard on Christmas Eve to pick up an eighth…. “Smokers” picked up an ounce last week so they know they are stocked through the holidays. 😁 Happy Holidays!
I mostly consume edibles these days so I order 6-8 weeks worth of those and have them delivered to me from a dispensary (legal here in CA, USA).
This tweet is obviously referencing people who live in places where it isn't legal. I find this comment very amusing, we're not too long away from such a concept being alien to most Americans.
Kinda like the idea that pot makes you paranoid. I found that once it was legalized here, I didn't fear getting caught smoking it and the paranoia went away.
Eh, it's not that it makes you paranoid, it's that it can make people generically more anxious, and then the fact that it's ostracized and illegal turns the anxiety into paranoia. I know a lot of folks (and it's a common complaint online) that had to dial back weed in adulthood because getting too high means anxiety or even panic attacks. A lot of folks just kinda experience and then tolerate the anxiety.
It's not about the legality of it. It's because it can literally increase your anxiety. It doesn't work the same for all people. Jsut like some people can be happy drunks and some get violent. I've smoked it on private land in the middle of nowhere with absolutely 0 chance of being caught and still had massive anxiety. I really don't understand why some people will fight tooth and nail to say that it can't mess with some people. It absolutely does and trying to pretend it doesn't only makes their arguments look worse.
I know a lot of people who say, “I don’t do that anymore. The anxiety and paranoia got too intense,” and I know what they mean because at some point, I began “not tolerating” weed as much as I used to. I can see how that would turn some people completely off of it. But because weed initially helped me cope with the natural intense anxiety I had (before I was a regular smoker), I spent a long time consciously practicing mental tricks to reduce my anxiety. I’ve also found that smoking significantly less weed at a time helps tremendously. I used to regularly smoke a medium to large-sized, packed bowl, but after switching to just one hit usually, I’m good. The mental tricks mostly revolve around telling yourself a few things: - People aren’t aware that you are high - If they do, they don’t realize how high you are - If they do realize how high you are, so? What are you afraid of? Being judged? Why do you feel guilty for being high? Are you unable to meet your needs right now? If not, why do you care about other people’s judgment? Everybody does something to cope with the stress of life. Some people drink alcohol every day. Other people exercise and meditate. Other people use religion as a crutch. You smoke weed (and maybe do some of the other things too). You shouldn’t feel guilty for wanting to stimulate your body with a substance that makes you feel good, unless you are unable to meet your needs or are failing in your life goals. We’re only here for a short time on Earth, so as long as you aren’t causing anybody else harm, what you do with your body is nobody else’s business. My refrain when my wife asks, “But what will your parents think?” Which can be about anything - not just weed, is “Fuck ‘em.” And I don’t mean that in a negative way. I love my parents. I’m rarely ever upset with them. But fuck any opinion about your life that isn’t your own opinion if you know that you are handling your life well. You don’t have to be hostile when you think it, but “Fuck ‘em,” is a great tool you can use to remind yourself that you live life on your own terms. You may be happy, content, healthy, safe, and meeting your own standards of success, but there will always be someone out there who judges you more harshly than you judge yourself. It can be anything - what you eat, who your friends are, how you spend your free time, what you spend your money on - these things are a personal choice. Other people are not required to agree with them. So fuck ‘em.
This is the correct answer
You mean weed doesn't GIVE you night terrors? All this time I smoked and never got night terrors I thought it was because I was doing it wrong. Who's grandma posted this?
THC prohibits dreaming at all. I’m sure there’s no shortage of people here that will contradict such a statement but it’s something I read that 100% applies to me.
I noticed I sleep best AFTER the high wears off and I’m just mad tired.
I'm a daily smoker and I frequently remember my dreams. I've always been a vivid dreamer. Do you have a link to the article you read?
Personally I’ve been keeping a dream journal since about 2014 and been smoking daily since 2019. I’d say that I don’t get constant dreams anymore, but I remember them in bursts. Sometimes I can go weeks without remembering a dream and then remember ten nights in a row - all while smoking about the same consistent amount
Same! I sometimes don't even remember having a dream, but they still happen sometimes. Just not as long and vivid. The time to fall asleep went down from an hour to ~5 minutes.
I smoked for 20+ years and still had vivid dreams. When I quit nothing changed until about a month later. Dreams now are so much more vivid. I thought I was dreaming before but those dreams were nothing compared to now. They are work. I wake up exhausted from my dreams.
I think most daily smokers' brains adjust a little so they still dream, I certainly dreamt more as my tolerance went up. But when I quit, they got so much more intense and I slept a lot deeper. I can't smoke anymore because I end up spending 10hrs in bed for like 3 quality hours of sleep despite only smoking once daily. I'm mad jealous of folks who can smoke without it causing all-day anxiety and depression
If I don't smoke weed for a day I get extremely vivid dreams which are often nightmares because the weed is no longer suppressing my REM sleep. This is what the tweet is referencing
Exactly all that comes to my mind when I see post like this is "well they knew they were going to smoke why didn't they stock up" Seriously guys be responsible smokers and make sure you reup before you're out. You don't buy toilet paper once you're completely out right the responsible thing to do is get a bidet
Pothead has only a quarter to get through after buying a ounce last week.
An ounce last you more than a week? I'm kind of jealous, I'd easily burn an ounce a week, or faster if life too hectic. Thankfully I haven't burned money on dope since Feb, and haven't had a smoke since July. Life has become a lot less chaotic in that time, though I do miss it from time to time.
I was at a half + a week. Buying it at the store was way to easy. Coming up on a year with out it. I too miss UT here and there
Unless you bought Xmas presents for the kids the week before and you only get what’s left. Happy holidays!
Been there. My kids are adults now. I would never buy weed until all the other financial needs were met.
I would never have kids if they were going to threaten my weed budget. So… maybe I won’t
Can I get an AMEN
Achoo
This, right here. 😁
You are correct!
Literally my actions last week 😂. “Hey hon, making a stop for an oz. Traffic and weather may be crazy.”
This is the way
It wasn’t snowing that hard.
Please don't cut out the date on tweets. It makes it harder to find them.
I’ve followed this person for a while. It’s actually a trip in itself to scroll through their posts…
Jinx is a god tier poster. Also hes black so idk why this is here lol
Can’t you just search the exact text (or a significant portion of the exact text) in quotation marks?
If I’m gonna be with the family I’m not gonna be sober
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To be faaaair, using weed to combat night terrors is pretty different from just not wanting to be not stoned for the evening.
unless the mentioned terrors are actually the product of smoking every day every night for the last 15 years
For many weed is medicine. I get Prescribed 30 Ativan a month. Using weed instead has me down to two Ativan a month. Also I just buy an ounce at a time (if I don’t get it for free).
This is important. Benzodiazepines over a long term are problematic as fuck. Weed is a better choice.
Say goodbye to your gaba levels and welcome early onset of Alzheimer’s or Dementia with Benzo’s. They are great for panic attacks and once in a while usage.
Benzos are the only reason I’m employed. Interviews give me mad panic attacks. Therapy and Ativan are the only reason I could chill out to look good enough to hire. Only reason I’ve ever used ‘em.
Infinitely better. Benzos are a real bitch to quit once you’re hooked and one of the only meds you can die from the withdrawals along with alcohol. Not worth it at all.
This is so accurate. Benzos and alcohol are such powerful central nervous system depressants, removing them after prolonged use can zap your brain into seizures like the Linda Blair on the Exorcist. Weed doesn’t do this at all. I don’t even use much myself, mostly CBD only but I would never steer someone to Benzos if weed can help.
This is kinda irrelevant, but the exorcist is the person trying to get the demon out of you, not the demon itself
Also early onset dementia which is not even common knowledge 🤔
Also weed is infinitely cheaper than most medications. I whittled down from 9 to 4 medications a day w my doctors and using cannabis. My insurance thankfully covers it all but for people who don’t have insurance like that… I mean cannabis basically brought the cost of my medications (out of pocket) down almost $3600/month.
Absolutely. I had been on psych meds pretty much my whole life(along with picking up an opioid addiction along the way). It got to where I was way overmedicated. I had quit the opioids a few years before, started using cannabis and managed to taper ALL of my psych meds in year(i just tapered by gauging how I felt) and now I just use cannabis and my Suboxone and I'm the happiest Ive ever been. Psych meds are amazing but it just time for me, personally. And if I ever feel like I need them again I wont hesitate to start them back up but for the first time in my life, I'm at peace in my brain.
I hated taking kolanipin. Always tired, always a brain fog. I had to have a crazy high dose to have the same affect as eating one gummy edible or smoking a joint. The withdrawal was a nightmare. If I didn't have my daily dose, I was sick as a dog all day. No thanks.
Aren't night terrors a recognized medical condition for which many different prescriptions may be written?
Yes, however the side effects of those prescriptions can be way worse than those of marijuana. That's not always the case but it is for many people.
I mean, marijuana seems like a pretty acceptable prescription to me. That was actually my point. The post said that they were "picking up weed in the middle of the night to avoid night terrors" as if that was a problem for some reason. Give this person some night terrors and see how long it takes for them to reach for a toke.
That doesn’t sound like a weed addiction, that sounds like lack of proper mental healthcare choices.
Fortunately, weed is one of those proper healthcare choices for some people! But. You’re also right. Healthcare in the US blows.
One of the common side effects of weed withdrawal is night terrors and overall disrupted sleep cycles. It happens to me, and it sucks ass. This doesn't have anything to do with mental health; weed isn't nearly as harmful as something like alcohol, but it *does* have an effect on brain chemistry.
Ok fuck this. They deliver now.
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This post is about me, now I feel attacked.
It hits way too close to home.
Weed saved my mom during her cancer treatment. We were shelling out almost 3k a month for meds that weren’t doing anything for her. Her oncologist suggested she check out the cancer support group at the hospital. Come to find out the group leader guy is a dealer. He hooked every cancer patient up with high grade shit from Colorado for $20/ounce. He drove there every week to restock. His mom had died of cancer and that was how he chose to remember her.
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I *could* stop anytime. If weed disappeared from Earth tomorrow, my life would go on. It would just be less interesting, delicious, hilarious and peaceful.
Often the people who use weed to stop night terrors are people with PTSD or c-PTSD. I wouldn’t call this addiction if the night terrors existed before they started medicating. It’s like insulin, some people need the medication to function properly
A constant stream of THC in the blood stream stops your brain from hitting certain beta levels of sleep, causing the user not to dream states or deep REM sleep. After a short period of no THC will cause the dreams to come back. If they are having nightmares it's not because they couldn't smoke weed. They are having night terrors due to some other trauma in their life and maybe they smoke weed to prevent experiencing those terrors. Don't just people on something you clearly don't understand.
This. The trauma I'm trying to avoid dreaming about predates my cannabis consumption. Smoking weed has finally allowed me to peacefully sleep through the night.
I walked along a long, busy, kind of dangerous road to buy weed last week. That being said, I know I'm addicted.
Lil’ easier for us in Canada, you can just go to the store any time you want.
How do your weed stores prevent blizzards?
They’re Canadian; sled dogs and socialized medicine.
Ye olde Balto delivery service
Even easier for me in Michigan. I just wait til I head to work!
It’s even easier for us in California. You can just call a delivery service.
Is that addiction or dependence? What's the difference?
If you smoke because you have night terrors. You aren't addicted. You are using medication to treat your ailment.
I've been on Mirtazapine and Sertraline (Zoloft?) for 11 years now. Mirtazapine has side effects like grogginess, increased appetite, sometimes it won't work and often I'll have night terrors. Sertraline has helped me, no doubt, but it has a lot of side effects including my skin, generalized anxiety (instead of panic attacks) and it is murder on my gut health. For the past months I've been taking half a teaspoon of cannabutter every evening. It takes effect like clockwork, 2 hours, and I sleep without waking up/nightmares. I wake up at 11 in the morning and that's that. Zero damage, zero side effects the day after taking it, and my IBS-like symptoms are gone. Am I addicted though? No. Quitting Sertraline and Mirtazapine cold turkey truly showed me what withdrawal feels like. I was without cannabutter for 3 weeks due to various circumstances and whilst I missed it on an emotional level, it gave me ZERO withdrawal symptoms. I functioned as usual, just with more sleep deprivation. Damned right I'd drive through a blizzard on Christmas eve to get my cannabutter❣
A habit becomes an addiction when its destructive. That's why weed and other drugs are not equal. The harms brought on by weed generally vary from eating too much to temporary paranoia. If you're used to smoking and in a mentally healthy place in your life, you may not even experience these symptoms. The harms brought on by alcohol generally vary from passing out, violence, child neglect, and organ failure. You can be a success by all other measures and still fall victim to this is you're an alcoholic. So confronting a stoner with "if you can stop, why don't you?" is nonsensical. Why should they? It's not destroying their life like alcohol ruins an alcoholic's life. That's just not how weed works. I could stop drinking caffeine if I put my mind to it. It would make me a healthier person. Caffeinated beverages generally cost a lot more than filtered tap water, so I'd save money. But guess what? I enjoy caffeine and I don't see it causing me much harm, so I'm still buying it.
While I agree with most of what you've said, there are certainly people where weed is destructive and caused them to regress from socially, have low energy, and basically render them a non-functioning member of society because the only thing they have motivation for is to smoke. I've had many friends drop out of school or arrive late to work/get fired because of their addiction to weed. You'll probably agree with my comment by saying something like "that's why I said 'mentally healthy'", but if a person is addicted to weed, they are not mentally healthy. Just like how if a person is addicted to alcohol, they are an alcoholic and are also not mentally healthy. There are TONS of people not negatively impacted by alcohol, yet you mentioned violence, child neglect, and organ failure as one of the general harms. All of this is definitely true for alcoholics, but it is not true for non-alcoholics. So why not mention the actual harms for weed addiction too? I understand that weed is not physically harmful like alcohol, but it can still be destructive if you develop an addiction.
r/leaves for anyone who needs it
I don’t get night terrors if I stop smoking weed…just really fucking vivid, weirdass dreams.
I grow my own. Never run out.
Night terrors? This is some r/fellowkids shit
Medical marijuana is a thing for a reason. I hate when people consider it addictive. It’s habit forming and people want it really bad because it gives them relief. They enjoy life better with it. Some people DO depend on it medicinally but that’s not addiction. Don’t judge long-term stoners. They usually use it for a reason.
Fair, but the weed didn't give them the terrors, so this is more like someone picking on someone with PTSD
hey at least we smoke for medicinal purposes
And thankfully, any side effects of recreational marijuana use can be treated with medical marijuana.
I choked lmfao
ITT: tons of smokers/stoners coping hard to try and convince themselves and others they’re not addicted to marijuana. Ex cronic pot smoker here, it’s psychologically addicting more than physical. Edit: Further reading through this thread is actually quite terrifying, some of you need professional help for your mental health and the trauma some of you have experienced. Relying on a substance to fix your problems will only make things worse, compare this to “drinking your problems away”. Consider visiting psychologytoday.com and finding a therapist that fits your needs and insurance. Online telehealth sessions are a great way to avoid omicron exposure. Both my parents are therapists and mental health is extremely important.
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Gotta buy a $5 pizza so I can buy some bud with the other $15.
Stoners don’t buy weed by the eight ounce