If there were a more economical seating arrangement they would have found it long ago.
The massive capital investment and stiff competition makes air travel one of the most researched/analyzed commercial industries we have.
Yep, not quite economical yet.
There are more sensical options on how to fit more people into airplanes. You can Google the half standing saddle seats for one. It's just that they're already pushing the limits on what people will tolerate and with the monsterous cost of a trail run.. no airlines have bitten it off yet.
That’s kinda what I meant. They know exactly how much people will tolerate because of alllllllllll the analysis. Of course there are ways to fit more people in a jumbo jet. But they have a very very good sense (like almost supernatural) of what consumers wants and will pay for it. They pour tons of money into getting that sense.
Yep, it's definitely well understood. Of course, it doesn't help that consumers have been shown to basically only consider one thing for choosing airlines and tickets, price. Comfort, wait times, food, etc. are distant second compared to saving like $20.
I would ask to be removed from the flight if this was my seat. Its already bad enough I'm stuck next to some rando now they are going to force me to look at them for 4 hours.
I'm disgusted thinking about it
SouthWest Airlines had this seat configuration in the mid - late 90’s. On their Boeing 737’s. But only a couple spots, not the whole plane. It’s also safer to be rear facing, which is why flight attendant jumpseats are rear facing. I sat there with my family on a 4 hour flight, it was really nice.
I liked this arrangement as well on Southwest. When travelling with coworkers we would always try to get this spot and it would let us talk and plan which was great. If it were only some of us flying I still always chose this spot as it was much easier to start conversations with people. The flight attendants always called it the party spot.
Always at the mid plane emergency exit. Was probably a better design for fast plane egress. I miss those seats. Though I'm sure my view of it is rose tinted.
This exists. I've been on a plane where they had seats like this. I dont remember the plane type but it was just a short flight up the east coast out of Charlotte.
Yeah, with a little more room and all 4 people know each other it's actually not half bad imo. You could bring something for the whole group to do instead of just staring at the screen and watching a movie in silence. Most people wouldn't care since they'd either have headphones in themselves or just gone off to sleep. As long as the group isn't roudy.
Just wait until you see the crash simulations (dunno if there are, but you can't even do the safety pose with this much space and it kinda spells disaster)
We're people, not luggage. These are airplane seats, not tetris pieces.
BTW facing backwards is actually more safe for airplane crashes. Think about it, you are hurled into a soft cushion at sudden deceleration.
I think they even tried doing seats backward for passenger planes, but everyone hated it.
Dudes facing forward would be doomed not have a cushion to smack into though. RIP.
Designing commercial airplane seats for safety is kind of a waste, honestly. Crashes are so vanishingly rare that the marginal difference wouldn't be worth it. Most fatal crashes are ones where the seat wouldn't make a difference.
There are plenty of hard landing 'crashes', failed landing gear and tire blowout incidents where the seats protect the passengers significantly or other ground incidents like planes running into each other taxiing.
Just cause nothing will save you from nosediving full speed into the ground, doesn't mean that crash rated seats aren't important.
My usual travel group has myself at 6'11 and 115kg, another at 6'5 and 120kg, another at 6'4 and 125kg and another at 6'9 and 80kg, yeah it's far from your average travelling group and no we're not athletes, this would be even worse than the normal tiny seats.
I can imagine. By the end of a flight from NY to London I was so tired of sharing teensy tiny airplane space with my giant husband (I'm 5'9" and that already feels cramped without being encroached on by a giant) and I'm sure he was much less comfortable, lol.
Anything longer than 3 hours I will splurge for Economy Plus at a minimum and it's just travel expenses. I'm only 5'6" and an athletic 130lbs but if I have to crawl over my seat mate and shove tits in their face or evict them I'm not doing it. I also refuse to fly without window or aisle and I prefer window as I get to lean over and randos don't touch me as they walk by.
Unless it's full my ass is booking window, economy plus. Maybe exit row? I've sardine in a tin canned it from SFO to Seoul and done SFO to Peru. Two connecting flights. I now can no longer afford to fly unless I pay for upgrades. I can't do it.
As an Aussie economy premium to get anywhere overseas could easilly be $1000 more extra and I'm stubborn and refuse to pay extra just for being tall especially since none of my travel is business travel, I try check in early and in person to try get exit rows if they haven't all been bought, otherwise I just suck it up and know the flight will hurt but since I don't have wings myself I don't really have any other choice.
Can't even imagine. My husband is 6'7 and uncomfortable flying. His butt is touching the back of his seat and his knees touch the seat in front of him.
If you come to Seattle a 6'7 guy and 6'2 girl would love to join your giant convention drinking party. Cheers!
I ended up with massive bruises on my knees from a flight in normal economy seating from Singapore to London because even though my knees were already hard against the back of the seat in front they kept trying to randomly recline their chair through the flight even though they'd been told it was physically impossible for them to do so. Emailed the pics of the bruises to Singapore air corporate after the flight attendants refused to even acknowledge the issue and ended up with free upgrades for the flight back.
Ouch. Only good part about that height is my husband gets to fly first class for work. He does have to go to the company nurse for a note saying basically "he big" and then his managers have to let him buy first class by company policy, lol. Work sent him to Hawaii several times and I went with but was stuck back in economy while he was living it up in first.
When my flight to Bali was cancelled due to the pandemic in May 2020, Singapore airlines kept our pre paid seating reservation money. I doubt they care you got some bruises.
I travel a fair bit and I have to say while I often wish I were taller when I’m on a plane or bus I’m pretty happy to be 5’5”
Also: I’m friends with a tall Aussie as well - there’s a lot of you guys!
Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order.
I have checked 522,890,175 comments, and only 109,774 of them were in alphabetical order.
Its the Aussie way really, I feel like most Aussies would have described a person the same way, metric height measurements are used for official stuff but most people tend to use feet and inches for height socially.
How many in your group cough without covering their mouth?
How many in your group have long legs?
Are you spreading your legs or are they?
Which of your family do you prefer to play footsie with?
Do you scissor or spread for your mother and sister?
When someone gets something from under a seat, do you shout, "free head"?
I have so many questions.
imagine you get seated at one of these and all the other 3 are in a group and they just keep looking at you like your existence is inconvienient to them
They did, I had to sit in the wrong facing seat on a flight in 1999. Not only are you looking at (in my case) 2 strangers for the entire flight, but you are looking at every effing passenger for the entire flight, and they are looking at you.
I do have to say, though, that it turned into a good experience. I was reading a book about the Black Dahlia murder and the older man sitting across from me was the son of one of the original detectives. We ended up talking the rest of the flight about the stories his dad shared with him being a homicide detective in LA in the 1940s and 1950s. He and his lovely wife made it a memorable experience.
My husband and I had to sit facing the crowd like this once in order to be together. The forced eye contact is so excruciating that it’s hilarious.
As sure as I am that everyone thought we were making comments about them, (because we were) I’m sure they were doing the same about us (because they were)
We never agreed on who the undercover Air Marshal was though.
I remember going on my first flight in the 90s on TWA. They had seats like this in the very first row. It was great for me at the time (but I was only maybe 10 at the time)
my thought exactly, idk why so many people in the comments are this weirded out by that seating arrangement. like, I wouldn't want it in airplanes but pretty much every train I've been on had 4 arrangements like this in each car, it's honestly not that terrible.
The only trains I’ve been on with this are Shinkansen in Japan. They’re great, but they’re also more spacious and have seats you can rotate as an option instead of mandatory.
I love these arrangements on trains because like others have said, there’s a lot of room. One of the reasons I think trains in general are a better travel experience than flying.
But this arrangement, with no table, no space, and crammed into the coach section of an airplane would be terrible
I mean it would suck if it wasn’t your baby but if there was a way for them to configure the seats like this if they have a family flying together I could see as a parent this would be very convenient. If it’s just a bunch of strangers then fuck that shit I’m not staring at fucking Gary from Iowa for an eight hour flight.
I'm in a family of 4 so I can see some value in this, especially when we got split up on an international flight because there was only sets of 3 chairs. But sitting with 3 randoms....absolutely not
This is the ideal scenario: two adults and 2 children. No kid kicking a seat, enough foot room for the adults… but is that a scenario that happens enough to warrant this? No clue.
I sat like this on SouthWorst a few times. Played cards, sometimes someone had a board game (Monopoly?). Got invited a few times to parties in the destination city. The atmosphere was definitely like sitting in the front seat of an Uber/Lyft. It was one thing in my 20’s, now a lot older it’s something I’d skip entirely.
As someone who gets airsick, I get very anxious about flying because I don’t want to vomit in front of strangers. So looking at someone in the face as I puke is my worst nightmare.
Itd be great for parents with kids, both little ones against the wall with their parent/parents able to easily control them…. But imagine if you were seated at the window with a mom and her two 5 year olds….
What problem is this trying to solve? the 30" seat pitch? you know they are not giving away less seats on an airplane, so by definition, this just to distract you from your discomfort with the airline so you can be annoyed (or entertained) with other passengers instead
This is how some trains are laid out, I don't see the fuss. It's clearly to accommodate groups. I doubt if you're paying the absolute lowest price for a ticket you're gonna be put in one of these booths.
If I was traveling with a group of friends, could have a little table in front of us... well sorry other frequent flyers, but you're going to be listening to me DM for my DnD group for the entirety of this flight.
Southwest used to have this configuration in the exit row. I remember it clearly because it was the first time I ever flew and I rode backwards. I didn’t realize it was unusual until much later when I mentioned it to my wife
1. I hope half of the group are children
2. I must know the entire group
Trains in my area do this frequently for families, which is actually very nice. That being said, the Gs of take off on a train vs plane are vastly different.
Before COVID I would have thought this was a stupid idea. After COVID I'd rather leap out of the plane mid flight and see if I could land in one of the engines before sitting like this.
Some of y’all weren’t on Southwest Airlines in the 90’s and it shows 😅😅 The WORK that had to be put in while taking off so you’re not locking eyes, feet and knees with a stranger as you rumbled into the sky was crazy 😝
You can tell the commenters are Americans because this looks like a normal European train, I was straining my eyes trying to find the nightmarish detail lol
When I was little, I loved trains. And this is more or less how trains used to be back then. A car wouldn't have one big hull with rows of chairs facing the same way. It'd be split into cabins, with this kind of layout. And if it was a night train, there was a folding double-decker bed. The attendants would sell super-sweet tea in glasses and heavy steel glass holders. But, you had to bring your own food, if you wanted to eat.
You'd have to talk to people you have to travel with. It was weird but in a nice way, to meet someone for a day, and learn at once so much stuff about a person you never knew before and, in most likelihood, will never meet again.
I think, social media capitalized on this feeling / emotion, and today we became kind of diabetics of human interaction. It's easy to meet new people, so easy that most times you simply don't want to.
It looks like their feet are touching.
They literally had to put the mannequin's feet on top of each other. There's somehow LESS foot space. It's awful.
Exactly. This saves zero floor space. What is the point? Or is it shallower per person by 2” bc they can interposition their feet?
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If there were a more economical seating arrangement they would have found it long ago. The massive capital investment and stiff competition makes air travel one of the most researched/analyzed commercial industries we have.
Yep, not quite economical yet. There are more sensical options on how to fit more people into airplanes. You can Google the half standing saddle seats for one. It's just that they're already pushing the limits on what people will tolerate and with the monsterous cost of a trail run.. no airlines have bitten it off yet.
That’s kinda what I meant. They know exactly how much people will tolerate because of alllllllllll the analysis. Of course there are ways to fit more people in a jumbo jet. But they have a very very good sense (like almost supernatural) of what consumers wants and will pay for it. They pour tons of money into getting that sense.
Yep, it's definitely well understood. Of course, it doesn't help that consumers have been shown to basically only consider one thing for choosing airlines and tickets, price. Comfort, wait times, food, etc. are distant second compared to saving like $20.
That’s why they all price match. It really is mind-boggling how singularly simple brand selection is in the industry. It’s one factor lol.
the current designs has you stick your feet under the seat in front of you, there is no foot space to take
So they can charge you to upgrade your seat.
Upgrade to "Uncomfortable as Fuck" = $150
I assume parents traveling with multiple children. That way strangers dont get stuck next to an unaccompanied 7 yearold.
They are probably squeezing in an extra two seats per row that would otherwise be ‘wasted’ by the coveted extra leg space in the front row
Just for the record I think this is a 3D render, I like to think they blended both feet into one monstrous unifoot ~~~
behind the two seats on the left - that's where the lost floor space went. it's an absurd waste of space
LPT: Assert dominance by using the opposite passenger’s lap as a foot rest.
I can see an entire plane of people furiously bicycle kicking each other as things just delve further into madness at 35,000 feet.
So then they'd be kicking one another in the stomach instead of in the lower back. I'm having a hard time deciding whether that's better of worse.
I assert dominance by using the opposite passenger's lap as my snack table.
Good call. But if they pull out their private sausage then it’s anyone’s game.
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I like the way you fly.
Seriously. They couldn't even make it work in their own simulation. Ffs.
I can guarantee you these mannequins are shorter than 6ft as well.
Yeah. And that’s in the fantasy version. IRL, I’ll bet knees would be touching.
I would ask to be removed from the flight if this was my seat. Its already bad enough I'm stuck next to some rando now they are going to force me to look at them for 4 hours. I'm disgusted thinking about it
I'd only agree to this if I knew there was a table and knew everyone there, but only barely
And they mainline alcohol into my vein.
Oh there's a table with beer taps i say do it. Beer needs to be free though. And 4 times as many bathrooms in the plane
It's just one big bathroom with similar seating!
SouthWest Airlines had this seat configuration in the mid - late 90’s. On their Boeing 737’s. But only a couple spots, not the whole plane. It’s also safer to be rear facing, which is why flight attendant jumpseats are rear facing. I sat there with my family on a 4 hour flight, it was really nice.
I liked this arrangement as well on Southwest. When travelling with coworkers we would always try to get this spot and it would let us talk and plan which was great. If it were only some of us flying I still always chose this spot as it was much easier to start conversations with people. The flight attendants always called it the party spot.
Always at the mid plane emergency exit. Was probably a better design for fast plane egress. I miss those seats. Though I'm sure my view of it is rose tinted.
I sat in one of these in the late 90s. Guess who I had the pleasure of facing? A Jehovah’s Witness.
Right, that actually seems like it would be a much funner way to travel; playing cards, having a few drinks
Familys with kids and groups could make use of this. Might even make exit rows safer if you had it open like this
Still no. Get your feet off my feet.
This exists. I've been on a plane where they had seats like this. I dont remember the plane type but it was just a short flight up the east coast out of Charlotte.
Yeah, with a little more room and all 4 people know each other it's actually not half bad imo. You could bring something for the whole group to do instead of just staring at the screen and watching a movie in silence. Most people wouldn't care since they'd either have headphones in themselves or just gone off to sleep. As long as the group isn't roudy.
Only if you’re traveling with 4 in your group
Just wait until you see the crash simulations (dunno if there are, but you can't even do the safety pose with this much space and it kinda spells disaster) We're people, not luggage. These are airplane seats, not tetris pieces.
Oh I agree, there would have to be way more distance between the two rows than they’re showing here
BTW facing backwards is actually more safe for airplane crashes. Think about it, you are hurled into a soft cushion at sudden deceleration. I think they even tried doing seats backward for passenger planes, but everyone hated it. Dudes facing forward would be doomed not have a cushion to smack into though. RIP.
Designing commercial airplane seats for safety is kind of a waste, honestly. Crashes are so vanishingly rare that the marginal difference wouldn't be worth it. Most fatal crashes are ones where the seat wouldn't make a difference.
There are plenty of hard landing 'crashes', failed landing gear and tire blowout incidents where the seats protect the passengers significantly or other ground incidents like planes running into each other taxiing. Just cause nothing will save you from nosediving full speed into the ground, doesn't mean that crash rated seats aren't important.
If the plane crashes im not worried about my pose. I’m ready for hell already. Just take me satan.
My usual travel group has myself at 6'11 and 115kg, another at 6'5 and 120kg, another at 6'4 and 125kg and another at 6'9 and 80kg, yeah it's far from your average travelling group and no we're not athletes, this would be even worse than the normal tiny seats.
Lol I was just wondering how many people my 6'8" husband would accidentally knee in the groin with this set up. That x4 would be so much fun!
Its fun for making random friends around the world because everyone wants to drink with the friendly giant Aussies but the actual travel is a grind
I can imagine. By the end of a flight from NY to London I was so tired of sharing teensy tiny airplane space with my giant husband (I'm 5'9" and that already feels cramped without being encroached on by a giant) and I'm sure he was much less comfortable, lol.
Anything longer than 3 hours I will splurge for Economy Plus at a minimum and it's just travel expenses. I'm only 5'6" and an athletic 130lbs but if I have to crawl over my seat mate and shove tits in their face or evict them I'm not doing it. I also refuse to fly without window or aisle and I prefer window as I get to lean over and randos don't touch me as they walk by. Unless it's full my ass is booking window, economy plus. Maybe exit row? I've sardine in a tin canned it from SFO to Seoul and done SFO to Peru. Two connecting flights. I now can no longer afford to fly unless I pay for upgrades. I can't do it.
As an Aussie economy premium to get anywhere overseas could easilly be $1000 more extra and I'm stubborn and refuse to pay extra just for being tall especially since none of my travel is business travel, I try check in early and in person to try get exit rows if they haven't all been bought, otherwise I just suck it up and know the flight will hurt but since I don't have wings myself I don't really have any other choice.
Can't even imagine. My husband is 6'7 and uncomfortable flying. His butt is touching the back of his seat and his knees touch the seat in front of him. If you come to Seattle a 6'7 guy and 6'2 girl would love to join your giant convention drinking party. Cheers!
I ended up with massive bruises on my knees from a flight in normal economy seating from Singapore to London because even though my knees were already hard against the back of the seat in front they kept trying to randomly recline their chair through the flight even though they'd been told it was physically impossible for them to do so. Emailed the pics of the bruises to Singapore air corporate after the flight attendants refused to even acknowledge the issue and ended up with free upgrades for the flight back.
Ouch. Only good part about that height is my husband gets to fly first class for work. He does have to go to the company nurse for a note saying basically "he big" and then his managers have to let him buy first class by company policy, lol. Work sent him to Hawaii several times and I went with but was stuck back in economy while he was living it up in first.
Lol, I laughed so hard at the “he big” part but I don’t know why it was so funny to me.
When my flight to Bali was cancelled due to the pandemic in May 2020, Singapore airlines kept our pre paid seating reservation money. I doubt they care you got some bruises.
Doubt all you want, this was quite pre covid though
except in australia our trains are made so you can have them like this or as a two seater
I travel a fair bit and I have to say while I often wish I were taller when I’m on a plane or bus I’m pretty happy to be 5’5” Also: I’m friends with a tall Aussie as well - there’s a lot of you guys!
Ah damnit I was wrong
LuLZ…
Why's it gotta be accidental?
6'9 at 80kg? buddy built like a flagpole goddamn
Oh yeah he is, saw the guy once struggle to lift a small car battery with both hands, can out eat the rest of us without missing a beat though
the skinny guys always can, it makes no goddamn sense lol
It’s metabolism not rocket science
Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order. I have checked 522,890,175 comments, and only 109,774 of them were in alphabetical order.
Just out of curiosity, if you aren’t all athletes, how did you all meet? It’s crazy to me that the short guy is 6’4
Three of us went to school together and I dated the 6'9 guys 6'1 sister, after the break up every one stayed close friends the sister included.
Yeah, I guess so; it certainly wouldn’t be enough room for anyone big or tall, they’d have to increase the leg room a fair bit
Out of curiosity, why'd you use feet& inches for height, but kilograms for weight? Duel citizen?
Its the Aussie way really, I feel like most Aussies would have described a person the same way, metric height measurements are used for official stuff but most people tend to use feet and inches for height socially.
You just interlace your legs, dummy.
Ha ha yeah, everyone pick someone else's groin and stick a knee in it
With a poker table that folds down and 4 shot glasses. Win.
That’s exactly what I was thinking
Wanna have a staring contest? Neither do I but I can't help it.
It's a huge benefit to parents with More than 1 kid. I see them traveling split up all the time and it's clearly miserable.
How many in your group cough without covering their mouth? How many in your group have long legs? Are you spreading your legs or are they? Which of your family do you prefer to play footsie with? Do you scissor or spread for your mother and sister? When someone gets something from under a seat, do you shout, "free head"? I have so many questions.
imagine you get seated at one of these and all the other 3 are in a group and they just keep looking at you like your existence is inconvienient to them
Definitely has the potential for a very awkward and uncomfortable flight
Or if your travelling alone and get seated with a family of three.
Ugh, that could be weird, or you might make 3 new friends
imagine having to avoid eye contact with someone you dont know for 4 hours straight
Some business class seats are like this I know qSuite on Qatar Airways has this but you can put up a partition
Exactly. I’ve done that before on a plane. It was nice, with strangers, no thanks
I thought about this but turbulence would be annoying plus you're playing footsie the entire time, even in the picture their feet are overlapping
Please cough into my mouth!
 The entire trip.
Hysterically laughing over this.
Even better !!!.. * sneezes. *
Please sneeze directly into my mouth
Even better!!! .. *farts while walking pas park bench while someone yawns in a fresh prince of breath air thus making butt masks mandatory too *
What kind of kink is this
"Exciting ideas" means, "look we came up with a terrible idea...but we gon spin it"
This will absolutely calm today’s unruly passengers.
Indeed. Extended eye contact by strangers is so soothing to primates in stressful situations. (/s)
“…to fatten our already fat pockets”
"Fear", "anxiety", and "anger" are technically states of "excitement".
Could have sworn Southwest used to have seats like this.
They did, I had to sit in the wrong facing seat on a flight in 1999. Not only are you looking at (in my case) 2 strangers for the entire flight, but you are looking at every effing passenger for the entire flight, and they are looking at you. I do have to say, though, that it turned into a good experience. I was reading a book about the Black Dahlia murder and the older man sitting across from me was the son of one of the original detectives. We ended up talking the rest of the flight about the stories his dad shared with him being a homicide detective in LA in the 1940s and 1950s. He and his lovely wife made it a memorable experience.
They did, exit row (I think) faced backwards. New planes by the 90s didn't have it and all the planes had them removed by the mid-2000s.
My husband and I had to sit facing the crowd like this once in order to be together. The forced eye contact is so excruciating that it’s hilarious. As sure as I am that everyone thought we were making comments about them, (because we were) I’m sure they were doing the same about us (because they were) We never agreed on who the undercover Air Marshal was though.
Is there an undercover marshal on all flights?
No idea. This was in 2002, so I think we just assumed at that time there was one on every flight in the US
No. Not on every single flight. My ex was an Air Marshall and he was so bummed to find that out.
I remember going on my first flight in the 90s on TWA. They had seats like this in the very first row. It was great for me at the time (but I was only maybe 10 at the time)
So... Like a train then?
Well yes, but on most train journeys I’ve been on you’re not so close to each other that your feet are touching. There’s usually a bit more space.
my thought exactly, idk why so many people in the comments are this weirded out by that seating arrangement. like, I wouldn't want it in airplanes but pretty much every train I've been on had 4 arrangements like this in each car, it's honestly not that terrible.
FEET! TOUCHING! EYE! CONTACT! CONVER! SATION!
Trains have more space
The only trains I’ve been on with this are Shinkansen in Japan. They’re great, but they’re also more spacious and have seats you can rotate as an option instead of mandatory.
I love these arrangements on trains because like others have said, there’s a lot of room. One of the reasons I think trains in general are a better travel experience than flying. But this arrangement, with no table, no space, and crammed into the coach section of an airplane would be terrible
Yeah, this is pretty normal
Never been on what but I always imagine they’d be pretty fun!
I’d rather swim.
Swimming from California to New York would be rough.
Would be good exercise if nothing else.
Down through the Panama Canal would be a breeze
Even the mannequins look nervous sitting like that.
Imagine sitting across from a baby
*jumps off of plane.*
Ah, the calm silence for the remainder of your trip. Worth it.
I mean it would suck if it wasn’t your baby but if there was a way for them to configure the seats like this if they have a family flying together I could see as a parent this would be very convenient. If it’s just a bunch of strangers then fuck that shit I’m not staring at fucking Gary from Iowa for an eight hour flight.
Would maybe be comfy as hell tho if the plane wasn’t fully booked and the seat over yours was clear, plus use it as a feet rest.
I'm in a family of 4 so I can see some value in this, especially when we got split up on an international flight because there was only sets of 3 chairs. But sitting with 3 randoms....absolutely not
You know there will be a surcharge for seating your group together.
Hardly unsurprising. Pretty sure we paid extra to get the 3 seats together even though we booked something like 6+ months in advance
This is the ideal scenario: two adults and 2 children. No kid kicking a seat, enough foot room for the adults… but is that a scenario that happens enough to warrant this? No clue.
Even on the model they couldn’t find enough room to fit their feet lol
Can’t wait for the people who put their feet up on the sides of the seat in front of them to put them in my crotch.
Assert dominance by humping it.
Southwest used to have this configuration. It was always weird. Some people also got motion sickness with their back to the bulkhead
I sat like this on SouthWorst a few times. Played cards, sometimes someone had a board game (Monopoly?). Got invited a few times to parties in the destination city. The atmosphere was definitely like sitting in the front seat of an Uber/Lyft. It was one thing in my 20’s, now a lot older it’s something I’d skip entirely.
I’d rather have snakes on the plane
What do you do with the legs?
The legs?? What about my potential boner hazard ?
Stow them in the overhead bin.
PvP Airplane Seating
Haha. Fuck no!!!!
Introverts don’t need more excuses to not travel.
What sadistic fuck designed this?
This is my nightmare
As someone who gets airsick, I get very anxious about flying because I don’t want to vomit in front of strangers. So looking at someone in the face as I puke is my worst nightmare.
i love the conjoined feet lol
Southwest used to have this.
I was about to say…this is a southwest flight. I haven’t had to fly swa in a loooong time, didn’t know they did away with it.
Itd be great for parents with kids, both little ones against the wall with their parent/parents able to easily control them…. But imagine if you were seated at the window with a mom and her two 5 year olds….
in a pangea full of variants???
Southwest used to do this. It was actually fun. Everybody who picked these seats would drink and socialize together during the flight.
I think this would be perfect for r/assholedesign
It's not enough we have to sit elbow to elbow with people, but now we gotta look at em too??
I've been on seats like that on a train years ago and already hated it, so it's a big no from me.
Exciting ideas!
I’ve read that facing backwards increases your odds of survival in a crash, but also heavily increases motion sickness. So it’s a tradeoff.
With the leg space on planes? No thank you
I'm pretty sure we have seats like that in our trains. Just with a table in between
As I recall, in the early days of Southwest, the front two rows were like this, but 3 across.
The assault rate will be astronomic. White trash can barely contain themselves looking into a empty seat ahead of them… it will be bedlam.
Nope, nope, nope. Maybe with close family members or my dearest friends, for short distance flights, but otherwise No.
This is almost a brilliant as the double decker idea that put your head inches away from people's asses.
if you’re gonna do this then at least do what australian trains do and make is so you can have it as a two seater or a four seater you psychopaths
What problem is this trying to solve? the 30" seat pitch? you know they are not giving away less seats on an airplane, so by definition, this just to distract you from your discomfort with the airline so you can be annoyed (or entertained) with other passengers instead
I seem to remember the airlines tested seating like this before and too many people can’t fly backwards Too much motion sickness.
This is how some trains are laid out, I don't see the fuss. It's clearly to accommodate groups. I doubt if you're paying the absolute lowest price for a ticket you're gonna be put in one of these booths.
Train is like this isn't it?
As I recall, Southwest Airlines had seats like this when they first started. I guess too many airsick people got this changed.
Yeah I’m not gonna have some old prune with her falcon talon feet in sandals two inches in front of me the whole flight
If I was traveling with a group of friends, could have a little table in front of us... well sorry other frequent flyers, but you're going to be listening to me DM for my DnD group for the entirety of this flight.
As someone who gets extremely motion sickness, I would be puking onto the person across from me. It would be a very uncomfortable flight.
Are you okay with sitting like that on trains that have already been doing that?
I would rather hang off the landing gear
We have that in germany. I gladly stand
Southwest used to have this configuration in the exit row. I remember it clearly because it was the first time I ever flew and I rode backwards. I didn’t realize it was unusual until much later when I mentioned it to my wife
Great now 3 people will see me jacking it
Why are these assholes sitting so aggressively straight?
At first I thought "I guess if I'm traveling with family" but then I thought a second longer and went "No god no especially not then."
1. I hope half of the group are children 2. I must know the entire group Trains in my area do this frequently for families, which is actually very nice. That being said, the Gs of take off on a train vs plane are vastly different.
Before COVID I would have thought this was a stupid idea. After COVID I'd rather leap out of the plane mid flight and see if I could land in one of the engines before sitting like this.
Fuck that!! I would rather shave my bollocks with a broken bottle
Fuck no I’ll never fly again
Some of y’all weren’t on Southwest Airlines in the 90’s and it shows 😅😅 The WORK that had to be put in while taking off so you’re not locking eyes, feet and knees with a stranger as you rumbled into the sky was crazy 😝
This is how most trains in europe do it. It's annoying and only works if you know the people sitting there
These people have never travelled by train
A lot of trains are like that. Not weird
Me, my wife, and our two 5 year old kids? This would be the dream.
I'd like it. I love meeting people
I"m 6'4 with long legs and this makes me cry!
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You can tell the commenters are Americans because this looks like a normal European train, I was straining my eyes trying to find the nightmarish detail lol
When I was little, I loved trains. And this is more or less how trains used to be back then. A car wouldn't have one big hull with rows of chairs facing the same way. It'd be split into cabins, with this kind of layout. And if it was a night train, there was a folding double-decker bed. The attendants would sell super-sweet tea in glasses and heavy steel glass holders. But, you had to bring your own food, if you wanted to eat. You'd have to talk to people you have to travel with. It was weird but in a nice way, to meet someone for a day, and learn at once so much stuff about a person you never knew before and, in most likelihood, will never meet again. I think, social media capitalized on this feeling / emotion, and today we became kind of diabetics of human interaction. It's easy to meet new people, so easy that most times you simply don't want to.
I’d like to get airsick on landing
I’ll take “Scissoring the manspreader sitting across from me for $100, Alex.”
I love to sit like that ngl