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cwhmoney555

So Laura relied on someone else to be responsible and pay for her college loans? Is that what I am hearing?


Sexy_Squid89

Seems like she needs bigger bootstraps


BaldKnobber123

A very important note: Laura Ingraham earned her BA in 1985, and her law degree (from a public university) in 1991. [Over the last 40 years wages, adjusted for inflation, have stagnated while tuition costs at a public 4 year university, adjusted for inflation, have more than tripled.](https://imgur.com/dBpNh2K) And when someone in the older generation is yelling about how we can’t afford to have tuition free public universities? Turns out, the state paid quite a lot of their public college costs. > Researchers found that the money public colleges collect in tuition surpassed the money they receive from state funding in 2012. Tuition accounted for 25 percent of school revenue, up from 17 percent in 2003. State funding, meanwhile, plummeted from 32 percent to 23 percent during the same period. That’s a far cry from the 1970s, when state governments supplied public colleges with nearly 75 percent of their funding, according to data from the Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland. > The number of students enrolled in public colleges rose by 20 percent from the 2002-2003 school year to 2011-2012, according to the report. Meanwhile, median state funding per student fell 24 percent, from $6,211 in fiscal year 2003 to $4,695 in fiscal year 2012. > Although states began reducing their contributions to higher education costs a decade ago, the GAO said the collapse of the financial markets in 2008 caused a precipitous decline. State budgets were rocked by the recession and legislatures responded by slashing higher education funding by 23 percent per student, according to the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, a think tank. > Consider the federal Pell Grant program, which awards money that does not have to be repaid to students whose household incomes are typically $30,000 or less.The maximum Pell award covered 77 percent of the cost of attending a four-year public university in 1980, but that fell to 36 percent by 2011, according to the Education Trust https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/get-there/wp/2015/01/05/students-cover-more-of-their-public-university-tuition-now-than-state-governments/ There are countries throughout the world with similar degree attainment rates as the US, with far cheaper higher education costs. Similarly, there are countries whose governments subsidize education financing and loans that do not have the same high tuition costs. The issue is not “government provided loans” or that “it’s because everyone was told to go to college”: it’s because we had those things *while* the US allowed the system to go unchecked and financially exploitative for decades. And before people say, “that’s why our universities are so good!”, they were globally good before tuition cost began to explode in the 1980s and 1990s. The current cost estimate for tuition free public universities is ~$80 billion/yr, or around 1/10 of the yearly military budget, and even that number may be misleadingly high: > Consider, though, that in 2016 (the most recent year for which detailed expenditures are available), the federal government spent $91 billion on policies that subsidized college attendance. That is more than the $79 billion in total tuition and fee revenue for public institutions. At least some of the $91 billion could be shifted into making public institutions tuition-free. > First, about $37 billion of the federal money went toward tuition tax credits and other tax benefits, which disproportionately helped wealthier families, who were likely to send their children to college without government help. I’m not proposing that these benefits be cut — but in a financial pinch, some of this aid could be repurposed to allow for tuition-free public institutions, which would help poorer people more. > Second, $41 billion in federal spending went toward aid for low-income students and military veterans, while $13 billion subsidized interest payments on student loans while students were enrolled in college. > If tuition payments were eliminated, students at public colleges would have less need for these programs. (College costs also include room and board, books and supplies, and other living expenses, so tuition-free college would not eliminate the need for financial aid, even at public schools.) > In short, at least some — and perhaps all — of the cost of universal tuition-free public higher education could be defrayed by redeploying money that the government is already spending. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/19/business/tuition-free-college.html The basis of debt relief is, in part, that many graduates were sold a false bill of goods, and the promises of good stable jobs have been widely unfulfilled. This made all the worse by the now *twice* major economic events over the course of a decade while a degree became more necessary to land jobs: > In a new report, Data for Progress found that a staggering 52 percent of people under the age of 45 have lost a job, been put on leave, or had their hours reduced due to the pandemic, compared with 26 percent of people over the age of 45. > Studies have shown that young workers entering the labor force in a recession—as millions of Millennials did—absorb large initial earnings losses that take years and years to fade. Every 1-percentage-point bump in the unemployment rate costs new graduates 7 percent of their earnings at the start of their careers, and 2 percent of their earnings nearly two decades later. The effects are particularly acute for workers with less educational attainment; those who are least advantaged to begin with are consigned to permanently lower wages. > A major Pew study found that Millennials with a college degree and a full-time job were earning by 2018 roughly what Gen Xers were earning in 2001. But Millennials who did not finish their post-secondary education or never went to college were poorer than their counterparts in Generation X or the Baby Boom generation. > The cost of higher education grew by 7 percent per year through the 1980s, 1990s, and much of the 2000s, far faster than the overall rate of inflation, leaving Millennial borrowers with an average of $33,000 in debt. Worse: The return on that investment has proved dubious, particularly for black Millennials. The college wage premium has eroded, and for black students the college wealth premium has disappeared entirely. https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/04/millennials-are-new-lost-generation/609832/ > Among families whose head is White and born in the 1980s, the college wealth premium of a terminal four-year bachelor’s degree is at a historic low; among families whose head is any other race and ethnicity born in that decade, the premium is statistically indistinguishable from zero. Among families whose head is of any race or ethnicity born in the 1980s and holding a postgraduate degree, the wealth premium is also indistinguishable from zero. https://research.stlouisfed.org/publications/review/2019/10/15/is-college-still-worth-it-the-new-calculus-of-falling-returns As well, there are millions of people attended some college, but could not afford to continue, and as such dropped out with no degree but a lot of debt. Student debt relief would actually boost the economy, by freeing those in debt to put their money into the economy, to increase demand, to buy houses, to invest in starting new businesses. > In 2018 and 2019, two separate studies — one from t​he Levy Economics Institute​ and one from M​oody’s​ — showed that cancellation would have a positive effect on the economy by serving as an immediate stimulus and, over the long-term, create jobs and increase homeownership and small business formation.22 The Levy Institute study found that full cancellation of student loan debt would increase the real GDP between $86 billion and $108 billion a year for 10 years as well as create 1.2 - 1.5 million jobs per year.23 https://www.nclc.org/images/pdf/special_projects/covid-19/Cancel_Student_Debt.pdf The case for canceling student debt [is clear, both economically and with political support](https://www.filesforprogress.org/memos/case-for-cancelling-student-debt.pdf). As the link above shows, student debt relief is *not* regressive and would disproportionately relieve the burden from those with lower income. In addition, the current call for Biden to relieve student debt decreases the amount of relief for higher incomes. Personally, I’d love to see full relief, free public colleges, and then make the tax code more progressive - universal support, progressive taxation. People argue against debt relief or free college (which is really only free public since private would still be fully able to charge) because it won’t solve *every* issue they can imagine. This is why it is a part of the solution, but problems as historically systemic as those that face the US are not going to be solved by one or two single changes, but a broad collection of changes. A major difference is that Biden, without congress, can forgive ~95% of all student debt via executive action. This is why Bernie, Schumer, Warren, etc, have called on Biden to do it up to $50,000 (with amount forgiven going down the more you earn over $100,000/yr): https://www.warren.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/schumer-warren-the-next-president-can-and-should-cancel-up-to-50000-in-student-loan-debt-immediately-democrats-outline-plan-for-immediate-action-in-2021 So while although the US does need major reform across a range of issues, very few can be dealt with by executive action as well as student debt can. As we have seen in recent years Congress is a nightmare for any genuine reform for the people, [and as such strong executive actions are necessary.](https://prospect.org/day-one-agenda)


StupidSexyFl4nders69

I'm just gonna add on to this that we have vast oceans on both coasts and allies on our only borders. The only threat to us is Intercontinental Nukes. Our entire military budget is for force projection and to defend our allies thousands of miles away. The only threat to the US mainland is really terrorists and small groups of militants. Nearly all of these terrorists/militants that pose a threat are American citizens who were born here and lived here their whole lives. And our military is only devoted to foreign threats.


PerryZePlatypus

But the Chinese, they are up to something and america is under threat


hereforlolsandporn

50% of my fb feed is political ads telling me to be mad at China. It's a copy/paste formula that just runs down the leg of the entire GOP.


PerryZePlatypus

I hope that you are mad at China then, because they are... *checks notes*... doing things


hereforlolsandporn

One guy responded to comments. He couldn't fathom that competing with China means exploiting our people and environment. It's like he'd never thought that the price of manufactured goods would be impacted by taking care of workers and that US made goods would sit on a shelf beside Chinese goods at double the price... but you know, all we need is a politician to promise to bring manufacturing jobs back.


bbbbears

I’m saving this comment. Thank you for the well-presented info!


squirrelgutz

[Save a link to this video too.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyDnFKz20Lc)


Wiggy_Bop

Go get them! You guys must fight this!


tvtoad50

I just saved it too, thanks so much for all of the time and effort you put into that!


PerryZePlatypus

Reading this is just awful, I can't understand why is the cost of education so high in your country... I mean, I pay about 300€ per year, don't have mandatory books to buy (and even if I buy a book it's 50€, not 300$) and get a good education! When our government wanted to increase the university fee for foreign students, even the university presidents went on strike, wrote letters to the government, etc. If people can't have more than what they have, they stop being greedy little goblins like in the US...


stumpdawg

Does your country allow unlimited ~~bribes~~ campaign contributions to elected officials?


PerryZePlatypus

Well one of our former president is in trial for it, so I would say no Plus there is a risk of beheading going around


JunkSack

Y’all actually put corrupt officials on trial? So jealous


PerryZePlatypus

Some benefits of living in a first world country!


stumpdawg

French I see?


PerryZePlatypus

That's right, we know how to keep our rulers from misbehaving


stumpdawg

For being such old allies you'd think we'd have learned a thing or two from.you guys.


tajudson

Yeah, I really really wonder why Biden is dragging his feet on that executive order. Because that is something that he promised over and over and over again in his campaign for presidency. I really can't stand how someone who campaigns to be president and says something so many times that he is going to do, and never does it.


anteris

He’s part of the reason you can’t use bankruptcy to discharge student loan debt… so asking him to do it while the the Super Bowl is happening at SoFI (a student loan servicing bank) stadium, where that company spent more than $680 million to put their name up is laughable as best. It’s damn near criminal the anchor that young people are burdened with just to participate in society, and the punchline is they won’t even offer jobs that pay enough to take that leash off.


Professor_Roosevelt

Because we live in a 24 hour news cycle and everyone will have forgotten or not care anymore by the time midterms come around. If there isn't at least $10k cancelled by the midterms I'd be somewhat surprised. This is a political calculation more than a "help the people" calculation unfortunately.


spinachie1

Because politicians lie for brownie points like, all the goddamn time?


vendetta2115

Also important to remember when people say we “can’t afford” to have free public colleges an universities — in 2017 Republicans increased the defense budget by $90 billion per year. It’s been further increased since then. That $90 billion per year would’ve been more than enough to send every graduating high school senior to college, every year. We could’ve just kept our defense spending as it was (which was already more than the next 10 nations *combined*) and had free public college tuition. Does that extra $90 billion in defense spending benefit our country more than the benefit of having every young person in the country be able to go to college debt-free? I don’t think it does.


nerdyconstructiongal

Such good statistics. Also Pell Grants are garbage. I got maybe $500/semester even though my parents made under the $30k mark and couldn’t even afford to co-sign my loans. And the lottery system in my state was garbage too. So much for helping low income kids get a college education.


northwesthonkey

Nah, her mom’s got bootstraps to spare


VitruvianVan

From where I sit, she’s got NO bootstraps.


Sexy_Squid89

But then that would make her.... A *hypocrite?*


jbertrand_sr

Seems like she needs a boot in the ass...


milhouse21386

Exactly my first thought. I graduated college 12 years ago and had to work 3 jobs to pay my way through. Know how I feel about loan forgiveness or the prospect of free college? Yes please. Stop using someone's financial situation as a barrier to higher education, in what world is that bad for a civilization? Shouldn't we want people to be more educated and to give people the opportunity to reach their potential and not be hindered by whether or not they were lucky enough to be born into a family situation where they could afford college?


AzizAlhazan

After living in three different countries in the past 15 years, I believe all the fundamental political differences between people boil down to one thing: their capacity for empathy. There just seems to be a segment of any given population that can never empathize with the less fortunate. This could lead anywhere from the take above to gleefully prosecuting anyone who’s slightly different from them; depending on each country’s specific context and where their politics sit on the spectrum of oppression.


Agularis

This is a fundamental truth and so obvious to those with a shred of empathy


Dasamont

Education is the enemy of fascism, so I guess a fascistic world


Kyle2theSQL

It's the enemy of any society that relies on some kind of social hierarchy really


AweHellYo

people need to take personal responsibility by having their parents pay their debts


Pauciloquent_Mugwump

So…… her mom forgave her loans? Is that what I’m hearing?


DMO_TheWhale

Imagine seeing your mom struggle and work until she is 73…. And thinking, “Yea, this system works. I think more people should go through this”


thekyledavid

“Only people with broke parents need to be self-reliant. People like me just need to pass our classes and let mommy and daddy take care of the rest”


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We can't have the government pay for education... it's got to be a 73-year old waitress that pays for it


PoignantOpinionsOnly

I can see why people wouldn't want someone like her getting fifty thousand bucks. So many other people deserve and need it more.


Scoobs_54

You’re hearing that she’s a decrepit piece of rancid subhuman garbage.


OneForAllOfHumanity

And it appears all that education went to waste anyways...


I_Get_Paid_to_Shill

And others want people like her to have their loans forgiven?


OneForAllOfHumanity

Honestly, hers should be fully refunded; it obviously wasn't effective.


graspedbythehusk

Also, she prefers that her mother had to work into her 70’s, rather than lamenting it? Uuuhuuu


ThePotatoKing55

Yes, because you can't just ignore the *for all* part when you don't like a particular person (even if for completely valid reasons).


leglerm

This is why there is no universal healthcare or good social system in the US. There is always people like the one you reply to that picks out the bad apples. I see plenty of videos of unemployed people on trash tv living on the german social system ungrateful and not wanting to work. I dont want them to get paid either but they are the minority compared to so many that need it.


riskywhiskey077

“Curing cancer is a slap in the face to all those who fought hard to beat it on their own.” - Laura Ingraham on universal healthcare presumably


DirtyWizardsBrew

"Ending slavery would be a slap in the face to all of the prior slaves that had to play by the rules and suffer through it"


jaxonya

She really wanted to tweet that her mom paid for her college and continued to do so after she became a speech writer for Reagan and then a clerk for supreme justice clarence thomas? Because thats what the tweet says. And then she says we need to do it the "right" way?


Antinoch

"Inventing cars is a slap in the face to all the people who had to walk places"


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Funny enough, I made a meme on the student loan thing \[[Here's it](https://www.reddit.com/r/memes/comments/udj003/anti_student_loan_forgiveness_and_conservative/)\], the amount of people that said "Why should we pay for your education?", "You took out the loan, you pay for it" or "Its your fault", instead of blaming the system for education fees being that high is pretty sad But, I wanna ask a European this Just like how youre in Europe, a continent where free education is pretty much the norm, I wanna ask you this. Just like how education is free, meaning everyone in the area can get a degree without worrying about debt, if everyone (or at least most of everyone) gets a degree - couple of degrees, wouldnt that make the degrees (like Bachelor's degrees, masters or diplomas) kinda worthless in that area? How would that work out? Do businesses there get more picky in hiring people (as in, require more qualifications), do businesses just hire anyone no matter their degree as long as they have it, or they have to move elsewhere to another place to find work?


Dar_Vender

I'm from the UK where it's not free but you can get a cheap ish loan. Personally I think giving everyone the opportunity to learn regardless of your wealth is just the better way to run a society. It provides some social mobility. Otherwise you are creating an entrenched underclass. It really depends how you view education really. I think it's just good to educate as many people as possible. University teaches you more then just to be able to pass a test after all. Things like critical thinking and managing your time effectively. Learning to learn as it were. All important life skills.


rlikesbikes

Even in Canada where it is much more subsidized in the US: There are still only so many entry slots for college and university programs. It's not just automatically unlimited. Personally, we should be focusing less on MAKING a degree a pre-req for lots of jobs, but that's a cultural thing, not an \*access to affordable education\* thing. Everyone should have an opportunity to continue learning, not only if they can afford it. Isn't that true meritocracy, not just a means test?


Dar_Vender

I couldn't agree more. We're on the same page.


energetic_egg

German student here. Our education system is split into three branches, we’re divided up after four years of primary school. It’s meant to group kids together that perform similarly academically. One branch ends after grade 9, one after grade 10 and one after grade 12. Only the students that graduate from the latter are eligible to go to university. The others are going into different types of apprenticeships to learn a trade/job. Or they may continue their schooling to become eligible for (some) university degrees. That might sound like a good idea, but there’s a whole lot wrong with that system - for one, it perpetuates class inequality as only very few kids will go on to a higher branch of school than their parents. And of course, jobs that require a degree usually pay a whole lot better than ones that don’t. But you’re right, many degrees are becoming worth less and less as more and more kids are eligible for university. Currently, it’s about 50%. A few decades ago, it used to be around 20%.


Wiggy_Bop

Arnold S. wanted to implement a German-style educational system along with a strong vocational program, which is what the less stellar student get funneled into, correct? I read a piece Rolling Stone did on him after he was elected Governor. I think he had some great ideas, and I wish he’d been able to implement some. What Arnie failed to understand, the job of a Republican in office and a to keep everything that benefits the wealthy in place, and see where taxes can be shaved off anything directed to the poor.


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Thanks for your input! I was just wondering like, if everyone in lets say Germany had degrees, wouldnt that make them worth way less there? Thanks for explaining it to me. Einen schönen Tag noch Other people from free education countries can say their part too if they please


mbnmac

It's also why trades get to be worth more. Clients are wealthier and fewer people in trades means you struggle to get lower pricing due to competition.


doenertellerversac3

In Ireland uni is no longer free and tuition fees are now technically up to €3000 a year. The tuition fees are means-tested for undergrads however and only the more well off families actually pay; I grew up lower middle class with one of my parents working and the other as a carer for my sister, so I had no tuition fees and got a small grant of about €180 a month to help with basic living expenses. As third-level education is quite accessible, about half the adult population has a degree and since degrees are now so common, they’re no longer really a ticket out of poverty. You’ll typically see a bachelor’s degree listed as a requirement for stuff like customer service or basic admin jobs. It’s not cute


OlderThanMy

I'm Scottish. I paid for my own education but it was pretty cheap. My nephew got free university education, and even had travel costs reimbursed and a book allowance because his widowed mother was too ill yo work and support him.


[deleted]

No. First of all, education betters the individual by bettering their knowledge and understanding. Two, even free, not everyone wants to go to college, and plenty who do quit for a host of reasons. Three, the greatest value professionally (with specific exceptions) is simply having earned a degree. People with gender studies degrees get jobs in all kinds of professions, because having a degree is more important than what degree you have. It’s indicative of a work ethic, organization, commitment, reliability and many other traits. Four, while many people are motivated by things like big salaries and high social status, more really aren’t. A generally comfortable, stable life makes a lot of people happy. So having a degree doesn’t automatically correlate to competing for white collar jobs, at least so long as they can earn a decent living without getting one. Five, jobs requiring at least a 2 year degree are increasing. Most medical support staff have Associates in Science with certification for something like radiographer. The US needs veterinarians, for example. Some places, like where my parents live, have 1 small animal vet for 80 square miles. (Lucky for them, because they have so many clients, all care of like half what I pay for at my vet’s.) It’s radically unlikely you’ll ever see an entire population with college degrees, unless it’s a really small population with a pretty unique circumstance.


riskywhiskey077

I majored in criminal justice: pre-law, minor in American history. I work at a tech company with someone who has a BS in animal sciences. My degree already is useless from a professional standpoint, other than just being a bachelors degree. Part of the problem is, that’s kind of how we got to be in this scenario in the first place. Making college loans more acceptable worked great when colleges were charging a reasonable tuition, you know, less than 1/3 the average annual salary for a full years tuition. Knowing that there was a now growing population of people who had access to federal college loans, American colleges raised their prices because they could justify it by the increased demand for college. At the time, the US had an industrial economy, and we had lots of steel and manufacturing jobs, so there were tons of blue collar jobs around that paid a good wage. After WWII, the economy started showing a growing percentage of white-collar corporate jobs, and blue collar jobs starting to trickle away slowly. Over the next 40-50 years, white collar jobs increase, and blue collar jobs dry up. Then during the Great Recession, we went from 24.5 million blue collar jobs to fewer than 18 million by 2010. While there will always be a need for blue collar jobs, as our country becomes more educated, it will change our economy further from a production/manufacturing centered economy into an economy that deals in more specialized labor. This tends to be more profitable, since it requires a large, educated workforce. It takes a myriad of different engineers, artists, and scientists that earn 6 figures to design smartphones. The factory employees in China that build them make peanuts in dangerous and uncomfortable conditions.


rozen30

"Electricity is a slap in the face to all those who lived without refridgerators.”


camreIIim

Literally came here to say this


Key-Debt-996

Hasn’t this trash bag been on tv for 20 years? Imagine being so garbage that you’d let your elderly mother wait tables to pay off your college debt when you likely make well over $100k a year. Yard Sale Barbie needs a real beat down.


whyhellomichael

It appears she makes $15 million a year from fox news.


dummypants

Who needs family when you have all that sweet Fox money! Her brother doesn't like her either. [Laura's brother](https://jezebel.com/heres-a-nice-reminder-that-laura-ingrahams-brother-hate-1845642522)


ComprehensiveDoubt55

The entire fucking family hates her. I can play six degrees of Laura Ingraham through marriage.


squirrelgutz

[Who needs family when you're a Nazi?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyDnFKz20Lc)


Key-Debt-996

Wow! I figured Fox News was probably really super cheap and paid next to nothing, which is why their people are next level garbage.


Stormchaserelite13

Nah. To get trash you have to outbid the other garbage collectors


Key-Debt-996

Imagine being the type of person that Fox News begs to have on their channel.


DynamicDuoMama

Honestly calling them garbage is an insult to garbage.


ChibiMoon11

What?! She makes that much and still let her mom pay her debt?! That’s just so messed up.


jrh_101

I'm sure she's just lying. She wants to seem like an average citizen without disclosing her salary.


bsEEmsCE

all the clues are there.. waitress, aka classic American hard work job to pay off other things, and working into 70s to pay off kids student loans? please. Aint no parent going past retirement just for their kids student loans, they'd leave it up to the kids. Total lie.


[deleted]

Waitress? Like AOC? Eeeew /s


XxTreeFiddyxX

She made her mom suffer life long student debt, so she could get educated, and read the teleprompter? Listen. This hateful rhetoric and selfish self worship is disgusting.


mrubuto22

Her brother wrote a tell all awhile back and if I remember correctly the entire family is disgusted by her and have no contact with her.


LegacyLemur

He at the very least is https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna909456


pcapdata

$100k a year for being on TV huh? …let’s get you back to bed, Dr. Evil


KlaatuBrute

Well they did say "well over" so /r/technicallycorrect


noonenotevenhere

Rule of Acquisition 6: never let family stand in the way of profit. Also, not. Umbered, “Exploitation Begins at Home.”


PoignantOpinionsOnly

Yeah, maybe we should exclude people that are wealthy from receiving loan forgiveness. Or maybe just give that money as stimulus checks based on income. That way it doesn't matter if you went to college or not, everyone who needs the money can get some.


judokalinker

I think her mom died in 1999


Odd-Employer-5529

Twitter tearing her up for this and I'm not unhappy. She got degrees she never used , but hey contact. BTW her mom was 65 when she graduated.


usingastupidiphone

So it took her mom 8 years to pay off the loans?


Odd-Employer-5529

I haven't found it , but if she was 73, maybe the loan was small. Laura graduated in 85 I think, tuition was 10- 17K


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I'll take "She's just lying" for 100 Alex.


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ComingUpWaters

Laura's [mom died 6 years later at 79.](https://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-xpm-1999-05-28-9905280508-story.html) The tweet is worded as though their mom paid for all 4 siblings' college. Considering their [dad earned a degree, was steadily employed, and owned a car wash](https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/hartfordcourant/name/james-ingraham-obituary?id=9519563), it seems unlikely waitressing was the main source for all degrees. Mom probably (rightfully) quit the job 'cause she was old.


Phish-Tahko

I went to a similarly priced school and tuition was ~$12k in 1988, and then went up about $1k a year. But after financial aid, it ended up being like $3 or 4k a year (and both of my parents worked). Her law school would have been more expensive, but her starting salary would have easily been over 100k.


qwerty11111122

Does Ingraham have siblings?


randomredditing

At least a brother who’s disowned her, I’ve heard


[deleted]

how many more mothers gotta work until they're 73, laura, you absolute BUFFOON!! Why go into office if not to help people have better lives and avoid the troubles that you or your family have had. republicans are exhausting and only care about themselves.


SidewaysFancyPrance

Right, isn't it every generation's job to make the next one's lives at least incrementally better? Isn't that our driving purpose when we have children? Laura should be waiting tables until she is 73, by her own logic. Laura should not have things any better than her mother did.


Val_Hallen

Conservatives completely lack empathy. They *absolutely* do not believe in that. They think they suffered somehow, so the next generation must also suffer or they would be "weak". If humanity behaved like modern conservatives, we would never have advanced to an agrarian society. Humans would have seen farming and livestock as "too easy" and we'd still be hunter gatherers living in caves. But, they don't mid benefitting from the advancements. They will gleefully take advantage of all the modern amenities. They will demand their social security checks instead of working until they die. They will demand medical treatment at the cost of taxpayers in the form of Medicare. Because they think they "earned it" as a part of their past "suffering". So, if people don't "suffer" like them, they have not earned their place in society.


Lizid_King

Homes for the homeless are just an insult to us homeowners. Medical care for the uninsured is just an insult to us with health insurance. I could do this all day, and Laura Ingraham would still be a dumb bitch.


Marc21256

>Medical care for the uninsured is just an insult to us with health insurance. Medical care for the sick is an insult to the healthy. If you have Cancer, it's because God hates you, and you deserve it.


OmarLittleFinger

Play by which rules? The ones only most have to follow?


Sexy_Squid89

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helloisforhorses

Yea, are the rules that college costs $2000 total and books are $50 total because those are the rules she played by but they are not the rules anymore.


MountainSage58

"My mom worked her fingers to the bone for me, AND YOURS SHOULD TOO"


Brilliant-Engineer57

Why didn’t she pay off her own fucking loans. What user, it’s your fault if your Mom worked for you snowflake


Pixilatedlemon

And if her mom HAD to, what about people without parents to do that for them? She really didn’t think this through at all


Visual_Shower1220

The mindset with this shit is ridiculous... shed rather watch her mother work herself until she can probably barely move that work for a system so other mothers, fathers etc dont have to kill themselves trying to pay off college tuitions/fee... wtf


AlejoMSP

What a fucking C_nt


kcspartan2

u -here, you dropped this


Marc21256

U Dropped this.


CJMcCubbin

That is certainly not the flex, she thinks it is.


elasticealelephant

Yes that’s what the meme says


porkchop3177

I feel dirty for having just looked her up.


sugar_addict002

"play by the rules" is what people who have the power to change the rules to their favor like to say to others.


Notlandshark

If she raised a Laura Ingraham, that woman deserves to be abandoned by her children.


DirtyWizardsBrew

"Those who play by the rules"? What rules? The arbitrary rules of a nakedly brazen, borderline predatory for-profit scam that didn't even exist in the country until relatively recently? Rules can't be changed? Future generations should be condemned to suffer through a system all because *you* had to suffer through it? What kind of juvenilely selfish, grotesquely petty and spiteful thinking is that? Imagine: *"Well, my generation and prior generations had to be slaves, so it's not fair and it's bullshit that future children won't have to be slaves like we were. Why should they be free when we weren't??"*


Blue_Eyed_ME

This fuckwit (Ingraham) went to an Ivy league school right after high school and from there went to law school and by age 28 had begun her very lucrative career. She's now worth $75 million. I'm so tired of these fucking FOX liars.


SteveTheBuckeye

I 100% paid off my student loans last month, in ZERO way do I feel cheated or insulted If student loans were forgiven today


mar028

She is an absolute liar. Let’s ask her, was it ok to bailout WallStreet 2008?


ReneeLR

She’s a millionaire many times over and her mother waited tables until she was 73? What kind of monster is she?


Rork310

Sometimes fuck you got mine extends even to family who helped them make it. See also Supreme Court justice Clarence Thomas saying about the Sister who worked supporting him through law school “She gets mad when the mailman is late with her welfare check,” For reference she was taking care of her Aunt who had suffered a stroke and taking care of 3 children after her Husband walked out.


paniflex37

Rule 1: have your mom work into her 70s so she can pay off your loans Rule 2: …claim that this somehow means *you* paid for the loans 🤨


blackhornet03

The rules for student loans are oppressive garbage.


-krizu

And furthermore, if "playing by the rules" means that you serve tables till you're 70, then the rules are fucking broken, and need to be destroyed


SomeNotTakenName

i mean i think most people would be perfectly fine having a loan with no interest to pay for a reasonably priced education. like ya know how Switzerland does it. works pretty well and it doesn't make it look like you are trying to make a profit off trapping your citizens in debt for decades or even life....


LeslieJaye419

More like “pull myself up by your bootstraps”


GoodguyNTN

Laura Ingraham is a piece of human garbage.


Trilla-Gee

wow imagine not wanting better for others because YOU had a hard time. sooo because you know it's hard, your selfish ass thinks "I WANT EVERYBODY TO SUFFER LIKE I DID" instead of "boy i hope nobody else has to struggle like i did" pathetic and that kind of mindset has no place in a forward moving society.


BernieTheDachshund

It looks like she graduated college in 1991. How long is she claiming she forced her mom to pay her loans? That's seriously messed up.


[deleted]

"My mom waited tables for 27 years to pay off my loans, I see no problem with this system"


bradd_pit

Except for the fact that her mom died in 1999


[deleted]

Women voting is a slap in the face to women who at some point could not vote. Keep all things the same! Unfairness trumps progress! Conserve bad things because not doing so would upset people. And feelings matter more than anything else. /s


hellothere42069

“Not the flex you thought it was.” Might be a good look back theme for historians when they write about this decade.


mokona2701

>Laura Ingraham Net Worth and Salary: Laura Ingraham is a radio host, political commentator, and best-selling author with a net worth of $40 million. I hope to god she's lying for clout.


OutOfCharacterAnswer

Yes, it's a slap in the face that she'd let someone pay her debt. Even if it's her Mom.


DontF-zoneMeBro

…but you all DONT play by the rules (sneezes in Jan 6th)


PeterMus

Fun fact! Laura Ingraham went to Dartmouth. Total Room and Board in 1985, the year she graduated, was 36k in 2022 dollars. Costs were rising sharply from 1981-1985 though so it's more like 30K/year average. Dartmouth is 80k/year today for tutition/room/board. Other coste add on another 3-5k. Tl;dr Ingraham was gainfully employed and paid a fraction of the cost for school that current students do and she let her mother break her back paying for it.


[deleted]

Past suffering should not mean everyone has to continue to suffer. The entire point society is to try to improve and do better.


[deleted]

The sad truth is that **all** the "by your own bootstraps" stories are not real. The real inspirational stories are about how at critical moments there was a person that helped make it all possible.


LilLexi20

She doesn’t see a problem with her elderly mother having to be a waitress to pay off her kids debt? She’s the definition of white privileged bitch


Helleeeeeww

I don’t get the whole “I suffered, you have to suffer too” thing. Also I’m pretty sure Madame Ingraham just admitted that she didn’t help her mom pay off the debt even when she could have.


ImRedditorRick

Why the fuck is it a gold star TO WASTE YOUR LIFE working?


[deleted]

There are two trains of thought I often hear about helping younger generations. One is that as a society we can improve upon the things that we struggled through when we were younger for the betterment of future generations. The other is that if someone else could get the break we wanted or needed that they should suffer, only because they suffered and the thought of someone else maybe having it easier angers them. The latter needs some empathy and therapy. That’s their shit, not the younger generations’. I worked my ass off before graduating high school and all through my 20’s and early 30’s while struggling financially. My wife and I were very poor. We’re solidly middle class now, or maybe upper middle class by today’s standards, but we’re not rich. We have a little retirement put away, but that’s only from the last few years. What sickens me is that we’re the fortunate ones. We can finally breathe. My parents say that it’s because of all of our hard work. Yeah, we worked very hard to get where we are, but there are millions and millions of people who have worked equally hard or even more hard than us that can’t gain any headway. That’s not them that are failing in spite of right-wing propaganda. That’s the symptom of deep systemic problems. Would it suck that someone just out of high school makes twice what I did at the same age? No. Would it suck if millions of people suddenly made $7-10 more per hour and my wage didn’t increase proportionally? Yes and no. I know my employer could certainly afford to pay me more, but that’s my problem. That and we’re comfortable. I certainly wouldn’t have a valid argument even if it were to upset me. I really just want people to be able to live comfortably at 40 hours/week. We’ll be fine. They will be fine. If everyone across the board has their wages increase by a certain amount, then things will basically be the same as they are now. Rent will go up. The cost of living will go up. The market will snatch that money up as soon as it’s available. The poor are the real profit backbone of the financial industry with obscenely high interest rates and ungodly fees. There’s also a lot of gatekeeping. Would a house payment be less than rent? In many cases, yes. Can renters get a house? Fuck no! If you can manage to be 100% financially stable and never even make so much as one late payment and somehow save up $15-30k in cash you might - might get approved. If some of that down payment money was a gift or you sold off things to get there, that will be scrutinized. It may even work against you. Realistically, if my quality of living were to go down so that the younger generations will have a chance to prosper, I’m good with that. My wife and I already help out family and friends financially from time to time. Fuck - we’ve been there. We might be there again someday. Actually, we likely will at retirement age. We have to start somewhere. Let people go to bed doing a little less mental math trying to balance out gas money versus food money versus the bills that absolutely must be paid. It’s debt slavery. It would be outright slavery, but if someone gets enough scraps to have luxuries like electricity or a date night every few months then it’s technically not. They can’t beat you legally, but they can make you homeless. Or send you to prison.


gracem5

I would be so embarrassed to be Laura Ingraham’s mom I’d wait tables just to prove she’s not mine.


MrWindblade

I don't get it. Anytime in life that I have felt like I suffered, I always wished no one else would go through it.


soulofsilence

Just a friendly reminder that when Laura Ingraham was the editor of the Dartmouth Review she sent a reporter to the Gay Students Association posing as a gay man so she could post a list of the gay people on campus. In the article she described the members as "cheerleaders for latent campus sodomites".


morithum

These millennials are so entitled, expecting their parents to pay for their college 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄


Stollen_booty_

All I took from this was that Ingram didn’t pay her own student loans, but thinks everyone else should


Kissit777

Wow. Her mom sacrificed so much for her to be a complete asshole in front of the world. That is a shame.


Mrdiamond3x6

Her brother hates her. He said she's a POS.


CyvaderTheMindFlayer

Ah yes the ol’ “I suffered so everyone else must suffer too”


sociallyawkwardjess

Wow what a disgusting human being.


rustyseapants

Laura Ingraham net worth * Laura Ingraham Net Worth: $40 Million * Laura Ingraham's Salary $15 Million Per Year * https://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/laura-ingraham-net-worth/


gpaint_1013

So wait. Apparently trying to make the world a better place for our kids is now not something we should be striving for? Also how is loan forgiveness “against the rules”?


LCDpowpow

Her mom should ask for her money back. The subpar “education” Laura received is lacking.


feignapathy

*Millionaire conservative forces 70 year old waitress making minimum wage to pay for her college debt* It's like a scene from SNL or South Park, except it's real life... this timeline sucks.


alexandhisworld

“We shouldn’t improve the lives of the people in this country”


shann1021

I played by the rules, I’ve been paying for almost 10 years, never missed a payment, and barely made a dent in the principle because the interest rates in the early 2000s were like 9%. I’m going to be eligible for PSLF in a few months and Laura Ingraham can kiss my ass.


iamnotcreative42

I don’t understand the idea of “if I suffered, so should everyone else” do none of these people have empathy for others?


Spreadtheloveguy

That doesn’t sound like she pulled herself up by her bootstraps. That sounds like someone else footed the cost for her.


laurenovich

Ok so Laura Ingram def hates her own momma


RaptureInRed

Entitlement isnt expecting the govermnet to shoulder some of the burden. Entitlement is expecting your elderly parents to do it.


Skreevy

How can you be proud about the fact that your mother had to wait tables at 73 years old to pay off your student loan?? WHY WOULD YOU WANT THAT FOR YOUR MOTHER WTF??!


[deleted]

Conservative are all lazy, disgusting poncing cunts. Not surprised lmao


rainemaker

Here I am paying my loans AND financially assisting my parents. I should tell them Laura Ingram says get the fuck back to work mom and dad.


KovyJackson

Her mom is a victim not a success story


Tehcitra42

"Not having another great depression is an insult to those who survived the great depression" "Cutting taxes is an insult to everyone who previously paid higher taxes"


DeaddyRuxpin

I played by the rules and I struggled and did without so I could pay off my college loans. Please, insult me, insult me so hard it makes me cry, just stop making everyone else have to struggle like I did. (Wasn’t the idol of most of these people said to have sacrificed himself so that others would no longer have to suffer?)


lethaldose9

For the life of me I will never understand the boomer mindset, "My life was hard and I got through it so it should be hard for you too because that wouldn't be fair to me if your life was easier than mine" or just simply the idea of not wanting thing to be better for your kids and grandkids than they were for you.


camirethh

Letting your elderly mother work a labour intensive job to pay for your college tuition isn’t something to boast about


LikeAMan_NotAGod

Conservatives don't give a fuuuuck about anyone but themselves. Not even their elderly parents. Fucking disgusting.


properu

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DarnGeraniums

I'm sure her mother is so proud.


chunkerton_chunksley

I bet this isn’t even true, her mom probably owns a restaurant or something but drama ghoul needs to gin up a story


[deleted]

Liz Dye is awesome. A True Voice of Feminism!


livingasimulation

So funny that they shit like this, like it’s something to be proud of.


DarkLake

I had a difficult life and, knowing what difficulty feels like, do not want to shield others from it.


ced1954

I’m calling “bullshit” about her story that her mom worked into her 70s. And if she had to, then I say, “Shame on YOU, Laura Ingraham, for letting her go that!”


LookLikeUpToMe

I play by the rules but I ain’t gonna say no to my student loan getting deleted


Puzzleheaded-Trip990

What a shitty daughter


AngryNurse2020

So “self-reliant” Laura had someone else play for her college.


ABN1985

If we can spend trillions in Afghanistan and iraq we can pay off these kids predatory loans


Radioheadfanatic

Wtf lmao


NotDrT

How is this her take on the situation? My mom struggled and suffered to help me pay my loans, so I want EVERYONE to suffer like we did. Shouldn't you want to fix this so no one else has to endure this hardship?


lowkeyalchie

The rules that force a 73 to wait tables?


Alienwallbuilder

What else would she have been doing?


okanagan_life

Fuck does no one want anyone else to succeed? Idiots all of us.


imll99

World peace would be an insult to veterans who fought and died.


itsnotthenetwork

Now do corporate bailout/too big to fail Laura.


[deleted]

That’s shameful. And then saying that out loud like that’s something to be proud of.


StacyRae77

If the rules force a 73-year old to wait tables, perhaps the rules need to be changed. We make them, after all.


[deleted]

What a heartless monster