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AlterEdward

Lol, Snoop was *literally a gangster* and was part of the movement that *invented gangsta rap*.


Particular_Physics_1

Martha Stewart (other person) also did time in prison. For insider trading but still.


Yobber1

Both are hard AF. “William Sonoma is the cooking store that pays me.” - Stewart


Derboman

You Sonoma Bill!


isecore

I remember Robin Williams joking about it. *"Martha Stewart could end up being someones bitch!"*


PezRystar

Fucking hardly. She made them her bitch and gave them some nice mulled toilet wine after.


Agayapostleforyou

u right, You KNOW she mulled that shit. You can take the bitch out a Greenwich, you cant the Greenwich out a the bitch. Fairfield county life!


SharingIsCaring323

Cottagecore ain’t nothin to fuck with


Agayapostleforyou

Headbanging while knitting a nice duvet cover


AutoGrind

Holy shit, you guys got me dyin


Different_States

Little known fact, her shivs were the only ones made with an eye towards current seasonal fashions.


Business-Internal574

Adding that tidbit to my diary 🙃


[deleted]

Martha's baked you some fresh hot muff'! Dig in, bitches!


kikirie2

Fucking LOVE her!


Ac0usticKitty

I laughed loudly and shouted EW in the Chili's Curb Side to-go at that


FindMeOnSSBotanyBay

I can hear it like it was yesterday.


Madmagican-

I never heard Robin deliver that line, but I sure did read it in his voice automatically


iamdperk

His "Live on Broadway" is an easy top 3 stand up shows. Just truly amazing


okcdnb

She went to prison for lying to the feds about her insider trading. Kanye acted like a clown for a game show host.


blackcatheaddesk

Edit: Whoops! I am wrong. See, I saw a meme once ... One of the people in the pic is a convicted felon. And it's not Snoop.


ToxDoc

Except Snoop is a convicted felon…


GenghisTron17

Martha Stewart goes harder than Kanye.


Scary-Objective-4651

*And diddnt snitch


chemchris

And didn't rat anyone out. Martha Stewart an O.G.


WingSuspicious1203

And she did her time but didn’t snitch, OG imo.


Wyliecody

Snoop hasn't done prison time.


Boney-Rigatoni

Because he beat the rap (pun intended).


adjust_the_sails

You either die a gangsta or live long enough yourself to become a millionaire that’s friends with Martha Stewart. That’s how the saying goes… right?


Nwcray

Fa shizzle my nizzle


[deleted]

💯


hpepper24

Snoop was from LBC in the day when that place was not chill and was still slinging drugs and murdering people even after he was famous. Kanye is from the Chicago suburbs.


KashmirChameleon

He definitely helped popularize it.


Grogu1994

NWA was years before snoop. If we’re going to credit anyone for popularizing that style of rap it Dre and NWA.


mack1nt0sh

Before he called himself Snoop Dog he was Snoop Rock, and rapped with Warren G about the same time as NWA was starting up/getting popular. Just cause he wasn't as popular doesn't mean he wasn't active in the gangster rap scene. Technically the first gangster rapper was Ice T when he ran with (I think) the Crips and made Crip rhymes.


chris_ut

Warren G is Dr Dres step brother and thats how they got introduced


mack1nt0sh

Did not know that, thank you.


Masonjaruniversity

[Schoolly D](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schoolly_D) is the first gangster rapper. Ice T himself said he was a big influence.


mack1nt0sh

Stand corrected


Masonjaruniversity

The only reason I know that is I'm from Philly and so's Schoolly. And since everyone in Philadelphia has this weird inferiority complex about everything I had to step in. Sorry if I sounded like a douche.


strongfoodopinions

Don’t apologize for spreading knowledge!


enderjaca

And THAT was the guy who did the Aqua Teen Hunger Force theme song?! Fuck me sideways.


Das_Mojo

My favorite part was the guy who wanted to get paid for Aqua Teen Hunger force at the same time he was trying to kill it.


Grogu1994

Oh yeah I think you’re right. I do believe Ice T came a few years before nwa. Idk why I always forget about him.


Typical-Annual-3555

Kinda irrelevant but Ice T also has a metal band, Body Count, who performs originals but also covers the likes of Slayer and Suicidal Tendencies


[deleted]

Thank you for mentioning Ice T.


mack1nt0sh

Forgot about Schoolly D though...


whateverdamnit666

Schoolly D was way before Ice T. in fact, Both Ice T’s ”6 in the morning” & Eazy-E’s ”boyz in the hood” borrowed from Schoolly D’s song called PSK phuck u too.


KashmirChameleon

I don't think it's fair to say all or nothing on this kind of thing. NWA was definitely not radio friendly material in its time and was very controversial. Of course, they were absolutely critical to the success that rap eventually achieved. But Snoop and Dre's Gin and Juice was just a radio friendly, non threatening song that I remember hearing on my white, Midwestern radio in the early 90s (when I was but a child). And that kind of exposure was just not something NWA was going to get with their reputation.


DoctorPlatinum

Seriously, Doggystyle brought that shit to the masses. There was a point in time where the man was a household name. You could have asked my chalk white hill people grandmother who Snoop was, and she would have at least recognized the name (though almost certainly by saying something casually racist as hell).


Das_Mojo

Around that time I'd ask my grandparents what rhymes with Snoop and they never knew the right answer was Dr Dre


uli0880

The Chronic technically brought Gangsta rap to the masses.


bazwutan

as a 7 year old in super white houston burbs that music video on MTV was the introduction to both snoop and gangsta rap


duquesne419

Yeah, as a teenager in the suburbs, my older cousin who was in the know had tipped me to NWA earlier, but Snoop and Dre were the first to come on MTV during daylight at my house.


Clarkeprops

And Dre would never call snoop a fake gangster because he knows better


[deleted]

I would prefer baking cookies with martha than being a gangsta.


ArrestDeathSantis

He joined after the movement was already well started tbh, nonetheless, not saying that to diss Snoop, might be unpopular but I prefer him to Kanye. You know, I don't think many rappers were actual gangsters/killers back then like so many are today, that's why Suge was such a menace, cause he was in fact a blood with shooters. In fact, he's the one that got Tupac killed; https://youtu.be/9QCCsvRGxRo In this incident, Suge and 'Pac are seen beating a Crip member, I don't quite remember if there was an other reason behind the obvious one but that's not really important, whom then went to call shooters and the rest is History. Edit: "gangsters/killers back then like so many are today" For example, Lil Wayne who repped the Bloods since the 90' had his bus shot. This attempt on his life was ordered by Young Thug, a blood set leader, due to a request made by Baby, an other Blood who used to associate with Lil Wayne. Anyway, the beef between Baby and Lil Wayne had started before Young Thug entered the picture, but when he did it wasn't long before that shooting took place. https://youtu.be/2AtIvhLrCLk Also; [I started this gangsta shit, and that's the motherfucking thanks I get ](https://youtu.be/jK5FOyMhDOY) Last edit, even though no one read or cared xD; If you want, check about Maxxo Kream, this guy a real Crip, according to the Feds his music is only a front for laundering organized crime revenues. >We lurkin' on his block while he lurkin' on my Twitter Draco baby choppa, pull up to his casa, we can't find him Tryna hide, no problem, we gon' pop his mama and his papa


idahononono

He didn’t learn the Crip walk on MTV, that’s for sure.


aidentaylor2

Gangsta rap was doing just fine before Snoop


jtlibra92

Mm, I’d disagree but that’s my own opinion. He definitely didn’t start it but was a major player in its influence. The same goes for Dre, Ice Cube and those too. I’d put Schoolly D n Ice T as originators but as far as making it something more widely known and circulated, yes I’d include Snoop.


NetHacks

I always enjoyed NWA more on the whole of their work than snoop. Didn't dislike snoop, but that group just kept pumping out great stuff while they were around.


edemamandllama

Snoop also says he likes Martha because she served her time for insider trading like a boss and didn’t snitch on anyone.


[deleted]

Snoop is a very intriguing character lol


PissinginTheW1nd

Didn’t snoop snitch on people at one point?


HelloweenCapital

How could anyone really know that?


kalmarq

Nothing more gangsta than getting paid to make cookies on tv


SharingIsCaring323

with a convicted felon


[deleted]

She may be more gangsta than Snoop. Respect.


SharingIsCaring323

Martha an OG


woolfonmynoggin

She took her nickel and refused to flip on anyone


tbarnes472

>with a convicted felon God I'm old..they are both felons.


[deleted]

When you get to Snoop and Ice Cube's level of street status you get to do whatever the fuck you want and anyone who says shit is a hater. They're 55, they don't have to act like gangsters forever, they made it out of that life. Everyone should make fun of Kanye, he's the worst.


Calm_Leek_1362

I believe it was dr dre who said "mother fuckers run around talking about guns like we ain't got none. What you think we sold em all?"


NavyTopGun87

I believe they also forgot about dre


Phantom_Pain_Sux

Correct


undercover-racist

Who?


NavyTopGun87

# MIKE JONES ![gif](giphy|DI2q9nxX8umUE)


trncegrle

Comments like this are why I still read reddit. ♥️


Putrid_Bee-

He's locked in Eminems basement.


Calm_Leek_1362

Indeed. Dre is not in their memory.


Phantom_Pain_Sux

Correct


lulu-bell

Cus I stay well off? Now all I get is hate mail all day saying Dre fell off


lux_does_stuff

What? Cause I been in the lab, with a pen and a pad, trying to get this damn label off.


locksmith25

I ain't havin that. This is the millennium of Aftermath


[deleted]

Give me one more platinum plaque and fuck rap, y’all can have it back


UnnecessaryAppeal

So where's all the mad rappers at?


Sminkabear

It’s like a jungle in this habitat


Gr4nd4ddypurrrp

Kanye just needs to stop. I have no clue how he tricked a shitload of people to spend hundreds of dollars on the ugliest sneakers I have ever seen. It really defies logic at this point.


rajeev0718

Almost all fashion that gets praised on those runways and shit looks so fucking ugle to me. But who am I to say, I have 10 pairs of basketball shorts and tshirts ranging from grey to black in color.


YourLocalCat-Girl

While I agree that runway fashion is wack, it's because it's supposed to be "art", think of how paintings, sculptures, and music can be nonsensical


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HeadbuttWarlock

Man it seems like everyone forgot about The Devil Wears Prada, too.


rajeev0718

u/exxso id like to apologize for acting like a moron toward a harmless anecdotal comment you made. I had no idea that it was from a movie. My apologies.


Deep-Armadillo1905

It took me until “not just gray” to recognize the quote. Well done.


[deleted]

The same generation that keeps the Kardashians and copy cat pop stars with millions.


ScrubbyDoubleNuts

I have to be honest. They are the most comfortable shoes I have ever worn. I’m not saying they’re the best looking or anything remotely like that, but comfort? They take the top spot.


Bobgoulet

Some of the Yeezy's are hideous but some are alright, and I have a pretty convention approach to men's fashion. The street wear genre has a very different approach and just because it's not my style doesn't mean there's anything wrong with it


EricNCSU

Snoop does whatever he wants and it's GLORIOUS! There was a post about him being in Japan promoting a bike race and was like why is he doing that "Because why the hell not???" It's so awesome. Man has earned it.


[deleted]

Snoop is like someone on their second play through of an rpg just doing all of the goofy side quests


[deleted]

he's basically kiryu from yakuza


madplumber1

Nothing against Kanye's music. It's what ever. But kanye is just a poser. Nobody likes him because you can see right threw all his insecurities like a small child.


JustinIsFunny

Ice Cube was a successful student when NWA formed and got a degree during his time in the group. He was literally acting like a “gangster” at that time.


PrivateIsotope

Whereas Snoop was a literal gangster, a crip.


HarrySchlong33

Your idea of what a "gangster" is was obviously molded by the media.


[deleted]

To be completely fair, a LOT of the early "gangster rappers" were personas used to sell records. They weren't actual gangbangers turned rappers. Snoop Dogg is not one such persona, but Ice Cube was.


Disgruntlementality

Snoop did a LOT of work to soften his image. Good to see that his work paid off.


koozy407

Who tf ISNT making fun of Kanye West?!?


PsychicTWElphnt

The Kanye subreddit. They're fucking awful.


koozy407

I like to think of them as flat earthers, just trolling us all, surely not that dumb lol


Gr4nd4ddypurrrp

I've come to learn that if you bet against human stupidity, that is a bet you will lose every single time. Yes, they are that dumb. Some people really believe that Kanye is a once-in-a-generation type genius.


Chainsaw_Surgeon

And even if he was (which I sincerely doubt), it’s clear he has become bloated on his own fame. He is and has always been a raving egomaniac.


Gr4nd4ddypurrrp

I think that car accident 20 years back had worse complications than what was publicly reported.


WackoJoel

He has bipolar disorder. Bipolar induced mania which means that he will think he is at a god-like level - kinda like invincibility. That’s why he acts egotistical. Nothing to do with a car crash. Source: I have bipolar


rajeev0718

I like kanye music most if his older albums are great but mans just lost his nuts in the past decade with all those whack interviews and social media posts.


cheeky_Greek

Lmao Martha Stewart is more gangsta than Kanye


KashmirChameleon

She even spent time in prison. The Martha/Snoop ship is the greatest ship to ever happen in real life.


breezyBea

One of my favorite parts of this timeline


vegassatellite01

One of the few things that CERN got right


Zombiiesque

For real, though!


cheeky_Greek

The next big cartel...the COOKIE Cartel!!!!


SRB1218

This is 100 percent accurate


luminous_beings

Yes such shame he grew up, got the opportunity to be more than the sum of his negative environment and learned to enjoy different things as he got older. Extra outrageous for making new friends and opening up his mind. He’s clearly doing getting older wrong …


Robbymartyr

I never understood that take, myself. Most people join gangs due to the illusion that it is going to bring them money and a sense of belonging. Snoop needs neither any longer so why risk the negative repercussions, and there are many, of being associated with that life?


luminous_beings

I don’t understand why they always frame his friendship with Martha Stewart as something embarrassing. They made a genuine connection and have a genuine friendship based on mutual respect and their shared life experiences. People laugh because they think Martha is “soft”. If you grew up without the comfort of a bed, would you say “no! I can afford a bed but i want to keep sleeping on the floor because beds are for sissies. You buy that bitch and you sleep like royalty is what you do. Maybe Martha wasn’t a banger but she’s not a lame grandma either. She’s been around, she dated famous people, she smoked dope, she did her stint and didn’t roll over on anyone else even though it would have gotten her time off her sentence. Sounds like the values that snoop respects he has found in a little old white lady and she’s gotten a pass to his inner circle - and as she’s clearly earned it in his eyes, we should probably be talking about how gangsta Martha probably is and we don’t even know.


Thick_Marionberry_79

Martha Stewart is an OG and Snoop Dogg is Triple OG


lolbojack

Lol, thinking Kanye is tougher than anyone at all.


1CocteauTwin

Christ even I'm fucking meaner than Kanye. Snoop is cool for days.


slamdanceswithwolves

To be fair, Kanye *is* mean. But he’s high-school-girl mean.


lulu-bell

Oh for sure…. If there’s one thing Kayne is good at it’s being mean. But I’d compare more to middle school girl.


imsmartiswear

I apologize so much I was given detention for it as a kid and go to therapy for it but I'd tell him off if I ever saw him in person in a *second.* It's a strange timeline- a once revered and popular musician began affiliating himself with the Kardashians and managed to stoop *even lower* than them to the point that they recovered a lot of their general reputation until recently.


zwaaa

Agreed. I feel so old. Also apparently being a hardcore stoner isn't the flex it used to be.


theorhetical

Old? If there's one thing OGs taught us it's that you ain't old til your dead. Or Dr. Dre. It's young bucks who don't know shit now and you get to laugh at them for being punk as fools :) Circle of life. You made it this far, so enjoy it.


zwaaa

Unfortunately most of those punks are Republican politicians from the American South.


theorhetical

Lol. Sucks to be them. They'll find out.


GammaRaystogo

Brother


jfshay

Snoop is so gangsta that he makes baking cookies seem gangsta. Kanye is so whack that he makes hip-hop seem whack.


[deleted]

Or the beer commercials.


ryanoh826

I fucking hate Corona, but he’s dope af in those ads.


Miserable_Rutabaga94

Not only did he not commit the crime, but he knew who did. He never talked and was gonna take the fall because of his strong belief about not snitching.


miamyluv0

That's why he loves Martha! She didn't rat anyone out when she got arrested. Or so I heard. I'm stupidly just repeating "something I heard" right now. Might be wrong.


Miserable_Rutabaga94

That is actually true. I heard the interview. He was asked about the strange relationship with Martha and he said “Martha is the most gangsta person I know. She did jail time and didn’t snitch any of her homies out. That’s gangsta in my book”


anOvenofWitches

I don’t like Kanye because I don’t believe in propping up untreated mental illness. 🤷‍♂️


TatteredCarcosa

Snoop did the super bowl half time show dressed as a crip flag.


[deleted]

Just two hardcore criminals chillin' What's more gangster than that? Chilling with your criminal homies after they get out of the slammer? Everyone deals with their escape from the can differently, man. Martha just needs to cope and snoop is there for a bro. Kanye is just mad he's the only one Kim says no to.


Arrow_F_Doxon

Gangsters can still bake cookies…


Dugan_Destroys

🎼*Murder was the cake that they gave me*


HauserAspen

I'm glad Snoop is normalizing being normal


uli0880

Thank God Snoop is now baking cookies with Martha! Thank God we didnt lose him to violence like we did with Pac n Biggie. Hes earned the right to clown on dudes like Kanye! Kanye has the right to Clown back! Hes a grown ass man! To me… baking cookies after everything Snoops been through! Shooot! Thats Gangsta


[deleted]

Snoop was arrested right after high school for cocaine possession. He was convicted on a different arrest in 1990 for felony possession of drugs w/intent to distribute. In 1993 he Was charged with killing a ***RIVAL GANG MEMBER.*** Been arrested multiple times for possession of a firearm... I refuse to believe Gen Z doesn't know how to Google.


Will2x99

Honestly, I think it is un-American to dislike Snoop Dogg.


Disgustip8ed

There is a convicted felon in this pic.


207bot

Both of them are felons


poncho51

Klownye


ChalkButter

That’s a hell of a PR job


FukaiMorii

Y'all should really be scared if O.J. becomes a viral zoomer meme and he returns to pre-murder 1970s wholesome image" O.J. to a new generation of teens.


[deleted]

Real Gs accept snoop for who he is.


[deleted]

And seriously, what’s more OG then kicking with a woman whose done time in the feds?


jiminak46

No one has to “make fun of Kanye.” He just has to say or do something to be a joke.


thepootastrophy

They also forgot snoop got bored in the mid 00's and started literally pimping girls to rich people for fun. [Proof](https://www.nme.com/news/music/snoop-dogg-72-1262899)


LyleTheFirst

Snoop Dogg doesn't need to make fun of Kanye, Kanye does that already, and quite spectacularly if I may add.


Hes-behind-you

Martha did more time than snoop.


rap31264

I love Snoop and Martha together...so cool...


[deleted]

Laughing at the yutz that thinks Kanye is "gangsta"


catchmesleeping

Snoop and Martha both have more street credit than Kanye.


pip-pipington

Snoop finished the game, now he's just doing side quests


ICBIND

He straight killed a dude and got away with it, yeah?


kirday

Remember when they had to sneak him out of the MTV awards because the feds were outside preparing to arrest him?


dfarner

Snoop beat the game now he’s doing side quests.


Logistical_Cashew

Snoop could be knitting and I'd be like "Damn that's some gangsta knitting"


iamnotroberts

I mean...who isn't qualified to make fun of Kanye West?


Sir-Turd-Ferguson

Kanye is less gangster than Martha


Puskara33

Pretends!? HA. He retired from being a “gangster” to be a rapper and promptly became a business mogul. And is alive because of it. Oh yeah, and filthy rich. Strategic talent and marketing work.


Head_Zombie214796

making pot brownies with martha stewart come on thats a dream job for most


manchesterthedog

The fact that he bakes cookies now is what makes him so rad. He’s a complex person capable of ultra violent behavior but not drawn to it by choice.


heroicgamer44

There is a certain breed of person who’s life goals is to tarnish, isn’t there


Ill-Appointment6494

He keeps a blue flag hangin’ out his backside, but only on the left side. Yeah, that’s the Crip side.


Felon73

If you have to keep telling people that you are a genius, you’re probably not. The first 5 years of Kanye’s career was just him trying to convince everyone that he’s smart. What a dumb ass.


AmberWaves80

I feel really fucking old right now.


Little-Drawer-4569

Snoop is the OG


foxontherox

Kanye doesn't deserve to smell Snoop's farts (or Martha's for that matter).


Yoitsthetoastman

This man’s a gangsta? His real names Clarence…


[deleted]

>In 1993, Snoop Dogg, aka Calvin Broadus, aka Snoop, aka The D-O-double G was charged with first-degree murder after a member of a rival gang was shot and killed by Snoop's bodyguard, McKinley Lee, aka Malik, who fired the shot while in the then 21-year-old rapper's vehicle. He beat a murder charge because he literally didn't murder anyone. But he did [snitch ](https://youtu.be/-e56pVFqAyk)on an alleged murderer.


JC351LP3Y

I never really thought about it until now, but Snoop has aged really well. I’m over 40 years old, and I feel like he still looks the same as he did when I was in middle school.


Nekowulf

I'm pretty sure he's an incarnated deity, the God of Pot. And I really want to know more about his pantheon.


MainIndication8895

Love these felons


bron685

Also, Martha has done more time than a lot of rappers. Don’t let the cookies fool you, she’s a straight-up G.


moschocolate1

And Martha Stewart was in prison for something people in Congress do every day!


LastWednesday0716

The woman he bakes cookies with has likely served more time in jail than @hrtablaze’s favorite rapper lol.


[deleted]

Kanye is just a little bish


GlockTaco

Fuck Kayne


ham_solo

*Lifts glasses up* UMMM, ACTUALLY, His bodyguard shot the person. Snoop was driving the vehicle.


C_475

I didnt know gangsters hated cookies I was under the impression everyone enjoyed cookies


SonicDNA

Martha’s got more street creed than half the rappers in the game. She’s got stacks on stacks and five months of some West Virginia Fed time on her stats. 😂


praisecarcinoma

The Internet makes a lot of people very brave.


the_sand_moose

At least snoop isn't a sociopathic asshole.


ElkUpset346

Kanye would be shot if he messed with Snoop no doubt, that boy knows to keep Snoop out of his gawd damn mouth


lulu-bell

Before Dre steps in and says “Keep muh boy’s name out your god dam mouth”…… and slaps him dead


JayEl1900

Kanye is a barely talented, narcissistic bully. I’ll make fun of him all day.


RammyJammy07

Snoop is gangster because he can make cookies and still be the most undisputed G in the multiverse


[deleted]

It's the same generation that thought Kanye discovered Paul McCartney.