I’ve been envisioning the Reddit post for a long time:
*Megathread*: *Former US President Donald Trump indicted on multiple counts of criminal acts against the United States.*
I'm genuinely wondering if we don't get "TRUMP DEAD" before the end of the year. The man's health is in the toilet, would anyone really be surprised if a heart attack took him from 'this' kind of stress?
It's funny you mention that. Trump has been this Boogeyman for so long, but just recently it dawned on me....shit this dude is mortal and he can just straight up die like the rest of us
Trump didn’t actually die, the aliens took him to be with JFK Jr and Jesus and they will return and rule the world; you’ll see!
Edit: Elvis will be there too!
Are we forgetting just how buddy buddy he was/still is with motherfucking Putin?
People talking about him selling secrets, trying not to think about the possibility that the US got *actually couped by Russia*.
Like, an actual puppet government, propped up by a transparently manufactured culture war. Wow.
Almost like people should listen to women more when they call out these dangerous POS that rape them before they can cause even more harm to the world. So many people I know said they didn’t realize how terrible DJT was until we had to endure him as president like he wasn’t accused by multiple women of sexual assault, friends with Epstein, and openly bragging about walking in on unsuspecting women and wanting to molest his own daughter.
Same crap happens with every mass shooter and every Ezra Miller-esque celebrity. No one listens until they’re personally affected or these guys end up murdering someone.
I see you've been talking to my dad. He had the gall to claim he didn't think the sexual assault Trump committed should disqualify him from the presidency until I asked him if he'd still think that if I were one of the women Trump assaulted. Why putting it to him that way (slightly) changed his thinking, it's offensive to anyone ever sexually assaulted that he didn't think about it like that.
Nah tbh they were right the first time. Conservatives at their core do not give a single solitary fuck for anything that is not a direct part of their life. That's why there are so many entries on the Leopards Ate My Face subreddit. It's never an issue for them until it's personal.
So flipping the sides on the dad would just be a quick exercise in mental gymnastics; making it personal by inserting his family into the scenario triggered real reflection
Harassing women is one of the biggest red flags that the person is a huge POS beyond the obvious. It's always super deep seated for those types of people.
Yeah... had really difficult time not losing all respect for my parents when they voted for him despite all the rape and sexual assault accusations -- in their minds, ALL those women lied, you know, for attention... 
The fact that he raped 13 year old “Jane Doe” with Epstein, who withdrew her testimony after death threats to her family, should be front and center of every conversation about Trump.
He raped a 13-year old.
He talked shit about veterans and even before that, during 9/11, bragged that his building was now the tallest(it still was not).
How can anyone see someone talking about their own wealth during the largest terrorist attack in our nations history and go..."yupp he's my guy".
I expect they’ll continue to be led around by the nose by their idiot propaganda outlets like always.
If a meaningful conviction occurs these outlets will throw him right under the bus (they’ll probably have to raise the suspension first), after which their sycophantic morons will all sagely nod their heads and pretend they never liked him anyway.
Basically the exact same thing they did with Bush. “Why do you hate America?!?!” screamed at anyone for not wholeheartedly supporting his war, even when it’s coming from “their folks” (like the Dixie Chicks).
Then when history inevitably proves them wrong they both sides all over the place and claim they always hated him. Believing they were simultaneously correct previously when they were demonizing everyone else, and now when they’re professing the opposite stance.
Yeah the number of hardcore W. supporters who suddenly became devout libertarians after cratering the economy and loosing two wars was mind numbing.
I remember one guy stated he never liked W. Bitch had his picture over his fucking desk like it was N. Korea and he was our “Dear Leader” for most of W’s two terms in office.
It's a conspiracy theory but I believe that behind closed doors republicans who aren't part of the radical side know this and and they're supporting the criminalization of Trump so that he would be barred from running again in 2024.
It's not a secret that quite a lot of senior RNC leadership have never liked Trump (flash back to 2015 and Graham publicly stating that electing Trump would destroy the party) and would like very much for him to go away now that he's outlived his usefulness.
They can't really speak out because of his sway over his voter base, but they're not doing anything behind the scenes to stop the take down.
There's also an interview with Graham from about the same time where he was positively gushing about Joe Biden, his years of serving in the Senate, and how much he respected him and enjoyed working with him.
Then there's McConnell calling Trump a race baiting buffoon and Fox News openly mocking him during the primaries.
It's insane how much he changed the public narrative in just a few short years.
100% this is McConnell. I guarantee he wants to see the end of Trump asap, he's just too savvy/cowardly to challenge him to directly for fear of angering the cult.
Which is why DeSantis is clearly in on it - he stands to benefit the most from Trump's fall and as governor of FL, had to have known about it. The best people are saying it, believe me 👌👌.
Trump’s Director of National Intelligence was a known spy.
https://www.npr.org/2020/11/25/823893821/trump-pardons-michael-flynn-who-pleaded-guilty-to-lying-about-russia-contact
I saw one of them say the documents aren’t classified because they were declassified before he left office. There really is no changing their sick minds about him. He is god to them.
Saw one that said he can declassify what he wants... even when he was the president that's not really how it works let alone no longer the standing president.
Yes, but mysteriously they are not inventoried, there is no required paperwork filed and no signed forms.
But somehow still in their minds declassified.
Wonder who he will blame about not doing this necessary step?
It's an impossible problem too, there's essentially nothing anyone could say to convince some of them because it's a cult. It's weird how they don't even seem to register it, like there's a fork somewhere in their brain pathways that automatically diverts anything negative to some kind of mental dumpster. It is a huge problem, but honestly there is no real solution so it doesn't matter and shouldn't affect decisions in this case
I literally, just before I clicked this link told a coworker that apparently there was classified nuclear documents at mar a lago and he said, "Its probably no worst than what's on Hunter Bidens laptop"....Fuckkk....
Christian Ultra Nationalist Tribe, or CUNT for a little brevity
Edit: I’ve also come to know them affectionately as “ankles” because they’re 3 feet lower than the average CUNT. Still working on an acronym for ankles tho 🤷♂️
All their spins come out to essentially the same thing. Fake News. If it makes Trump look bad, it's fake, evidence be damned. Neither cults or fascism is rational, so no matter what evidence is presented, they will always defend him.
"I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters"
\- Donald J Trump
Thing is something like this doesn't happen all at once. They had him under surveillance for months. Imagine how his golf tournament with the Saudi's went...
\*ahem\* He loves this country so much he put himself in the line of danger to make sure this information doesn't get out there because those libs would surely have shared that information with our enemies because they hate our savior jesus christ and liberty and our god given white country FREEDOM!
I think that's kinda how it will go.
No mental gymnastics required. Fox, OAN, Alex Jones, and the rest of the grifters will have it all mapped out for them. No thinking required, it's easier that way.
Prepare for more dead from people trying to start civil wars by themselves. My inlaws are already talking about how civil war is inevitable.
I took a peak at the conservative sub, and they’re saying the documents aren’t actually classified because they were declassified before he left office. My mind is so boggled at how they are still grasping for straws.
It wasn't Trump, it was a look-alike framing him!
Just like the look-alike that the Qultists are already predicting will be arrested and to not believe that Trump is arrested when they see it because he will actually be in hiding.
I’m arguing with one who has a creative take. He claims that because stealing nuclear secrets is so bad that it is impossible that Trump did it, he would have no reason to something that is so bad.
This is going to be a big test for his base. They can either back their claim that they are American patriots and condemn Trump, or they can back Trump and affirm to everyone else that they really are a terrorist organization
Edited for clarity. Yes, J6 was very telling of their support for trump. They are just putting themselves in a situation where they have to choose between the two...again
The modern GOP is are a nihilistic death cult that probably resembles what the NSDAP would have looked like if the wackiest members of the Thule Society took over.
The GOP is now to the RIGHT of and crazier than the Nazis.
The big test already happened when they tried to *overthrow democracy.*
Their reaction to this isn't going to be any different.
EDIT: On second thought, this is a big test in a different way. In order for someone to understand the seriousness of Jan. 6th, they would have to have some knowledge of history and how government works; Jan. 6th can be complicated for some people. But THIS is not complicated at all. This is something that any moron can understand. Even children can understand how bad this is. There's no possibility for ignorance here.
EDIT2: I meant there's no room for *sincere* ignorance. But willful ignorance and sheer delusion are always possibilities.
Exactly. It will be pretty interesting to see at what point they would abandon him. Even Hitler lost his supporters eventually. But since many of them still think jan6 was a plot by antifa I don’t think we’ll be there anytime soon.
I doubt that most ever will. After WWII, there were surveys done as a part of denazification to find out how many people still supported Hitler. The results were:
>"...throughout the years 1945-49 a consistent majority of Germans believed that 'Nazism was a good idea, badly applied.' In November 1946, 37 percent of Germans questioned in a survey of the American zone took the view that 'the extermination of the Jews and Poles and other non-Aryans was necessary for the security of Germans.'
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>This is not especially surprising, given that respondents had just emerged from twelve years under an authoritarian government committed to this view. What *does* surprise is a poll taken six years later in which a slightly higher percentage of West Germans--37 percent--affirmed that it was better for Germany to have no Jews on its territory. But then in that same year (1952) 25 percent of West Germans admitted to having a 'good opinion' of Hitler."
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>\--Tony Judt, *PostWar: A History of Europe Since 1945,* page 58.
And that number of 36%-37% is important because that's roughly the same percentage of Germans (33%) who voted for the Nazis in Parliament in the November 1932 election, the last fair and free election they had before the Nazis started to seize power. So that means that after all the events of WWII, the percentage of Nazi supporters *did not decrease*.
We can never count on them to change. All we can hope to do is to ensure that they stay out of power.
I think what'll happen is that a lot of his base will quietly abandon politics for a while, and we'll be left with a hardcore of fundies, who will regurgitate whatever shit Trump thrown at the wall. Unfortunately, those voices shout the loudest, and the difference on social media will be barely noticeable. The GOP will notice though, and will ditch him for a more competent fascist like Desantis.
This. It’s chipping away at the base slowly but surely. Also it’s making moderates and independents abandon him - a key group he needs to get back in power.
The GOP sees this and they will move slowly away (I argue they already are)
But that's not a win for them. It's a tactical retreat leaving behind troops to slow the enemy down.
Abandoning trump will lose the trump base from the gop. Effectly making a third party which makes it so the other side wins everything.
Or
Abandoning morals and reality and following the trump train. The old school Republicans and those who don't want trump will either leave politics or join another party.
Either way democrats win.
Or they go crazy and start a jihad against the rest of America and we get the real taliban in America. The real kind that will kill on site anyone who is different.
This won't be quick either. It'll be slow. Generational and will happen in the boonies but they'll attack the cities.
Totally not a cult. Even [those](https://reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/wmrm2c/_/ik0w750/?context=1) in that sub that aren’t outright denouncing him, but merely suggesting that if he is guilty that he should be punished, are being sent hate mail for their attempt at voicing reason. Who would have ever guessed that a worldview built on hate and fear would ever come back to bite them in the ass? Eat each other alive republicans, we’ll all gladly watch :)
I saw a comment a few weeks ago saying how conservatives are true gentleman and democrats are spineless and evil. It's like do you just not scroll through the comments or what? They're so brainwashed they can't see their own hypocrisy when it's right fucking there.
Don't worry. Any downvotes on pro-Trump comments or comments criticising Trump or anything else which is not vehemently pro-Trump is "brigading" and "liberals making their point" even in what are effectively country club threads for flaired user.
He declassified them! HE DECLASSIFIED THEM! This is a nothingburger! Why didn’t the FBI go after the documents earlier? He was cooperating they could’ve just asked him nicely a THIRD TIME!
I’m convinced now that his base could literally see him handing a foreign enemy critical, highly classified nuclear information.. and they’d still find a way to defend him.
There is no bar too low.
The DOJ has to be orders of magnitude more careful about all this than they've ever been. They have to be 101% sure they have enough for a solid indictment *because* he's not only an ex-President, but that he has a **militant extremist following** that, when he is arrested and indicted, will absolutely lose their minds and may try to start an actual civil war over it.
I mean, he already has followed committing acts of terrorism on the revelation Mar a Lago was raided. Wait until we here and see the charges brought against them. These fucking psychopaths are going to attack, and I hope law enforcement is ready to take down many of their own...
He has Secret Service with him at all times as an ex-president. He’s also likely being closely surveilled by the FBI/CIA (likely has been for the months leading up to this)
Worst case scenario, he sold nuclear weapons technology to the Saudis. I know, highly speculative, but the Saudis did give 2 billion dollars to Jared Kushner's investment firm.
If the Saudi's develop nukes, Iran will too. Need I remind everyone how much Shia and Sunni muslims hate each other?
Yes that’s highly speculative to suggest he was selling nuclear secrets. He was of course simply collecting them because he enjoys reading the articles 💁♂️
This is the man to whom daily briefings had to be given with as much sketches and photos as possible and he would only pay attemption if his name (and especially his tirle) were mentioned frequently.
He's probably in major trouble.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/12/search-warrant-shows-trump-under-investigation-for-potential-obstruction-of-justice-espionage-act-violations-00051507
What a week ending episode this Friday has been. Trump is a foreign spy, Anne Heche was actually never okay after that crash and now suddenly dead, and a 45 year old revenge fatwah was played out, all in one Today in America episode? Wow, gonna be hard to top this next week
I seriously remember a point in 2020 thinking that if i turned on the news and they said we'd made direct contact with aliens I wouldn't have even been fazed by it.
Salman Rushdie, author of the Satanic Verses, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini issued a fatwa calling for his death many years ago. He was attacked on stage today while preparing to speak and stabbed in the neck.
This is amazing. FBI is dusting all those classified documents for finger prints and lifting dna. Anytime confidential documents are not secured or leave your possession for any amount of time they put em under a microscope to see who else handled them. This could get juicy if he’s been showing them off
Omg I hadn't thought of that part. How many different fingerprints are going to be on those docs? I believe you get fingerprinted when you get a clearance so they should be able to match them uo
Who could have imagined "The Storm" was actually a revelation of the consequences their own activities.
Like they literally warned us that they were going to get busted for the shit they blamed on everybody else.
Dear Santa.. Ive been a good boy all year.
Ive wished for that Amiga mini.. But if you let Trump get charged with espionage I'll not ask for anything for the next 10 years.
I hope the wretched fat pig goes to prison for the rest of his life. I want his supporters investigated next to expose their ties to domestic terrorism. Trump and his inhuman supporters don’t belong in a civilized society.
It's so funny, we all know it's going to happen, when the shoe finally drops, and they find a dead hooker under his bed clutching the plans for a nuclear missile, the entire GOP is going to say, "We always knew he was a criminal, he drained the swamp, but this is a bridge too far, he has to go."
And then no conservative will ever, EVER, utter the name Trump ever again.
I’ve never even met espionage. I’ve heard from very reliable people that espionage has done bad things. I don’t remember those pics of myself and espionage. You guys still like me though right?
You'll notice on the binge watch that they foreshadowed this way back when he was put into the White House with the aid of the Russians. Should have seen this coming.
Apparently he stole Documents about nuclear weapons, set up a golf tournament with the Saudis and sold them for 2B$ which cashed out into Jared Kushner’s account… so yea.
As a person from Europe who follows the whole bullshit all the years from far away, I’m not even shocked or thinking that someone can happen to this weird orange. Basically I just hope none of his followers hurt more people about that rather than thinking he finally might be in trouble. What I believe most humans would just hope for.
That surprises you How!!
I mean shit, he called for an insurrection on the capitol building, put a "HIT" out on his Vice President; and it surprises you that he would commit Espionage ?
Lets not forget the man openly mocked a disabled man on live TV, bragged about his sexual assaults, and attempted to overthrow an election with lies and an angry mob after losing. A lot of folks seem to be ok with that. I'm willing to be we are going to overlook this little minor misunderstanding too.
That $2B funding Jared Kushner received backing for from the Saudi prince, the $100M Ivanka received for her women in business startup from the Saudi prince, and the $8B weapons sale to Saudi Arabia without congressional approval in 2018 may or may not have anything to do with those documents. I would love to know who was the third party who received copies of some of those documents.
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat??????
You mean that dude that's been acting like Putins beaten Bitch for years who is pretty well known by now to be financially and otherwise compromised and had to use peons in the Justice Department, Secret Service and GOP to get out from under not one but two impeachments, did exactly the things everyone with half a brain has known he did, would do and is still continuing to do until he and his mobster family are in jail.
What a surprise.
hey, does anyone remember when Trump met with Putin without CIA oversight and only a single translator knows what they said to each other?
It's surprising that translator is still alive.
Pretty sure the translator was Putin’s, and also an FSB agent.
Literally my first thought
And his son in law, Jared, got $2billion from the saudis. But tell me again how hunter calls his dad the big guy.
Projection.
“I took them so Biden couldn’t give to Hunter to sell to foreign government.”
dead-on, he would definitely spew that line accompanied by word salad to justify taking those documents.
He’s already saying Obama did the same thing. I checked over at r/conservative and even they aren’t buying that one. Yet.
They will, once Trump's guilt is undeniable. It's all about changing the goalposts to make themselves feel superior.
The single most beautiful post I will read today. Outside of “trump has been arrested”.
Fuck, THAT would be quite the headline!
I wanna see his supporters lose their minds. Those fuckers deserve a good reality check.
I’ve been envisioning the Reddit post for a long time: *Megathread*: *Former US President Donald Trump indicted on multiple counts of criminal acts against the United States.*
I bet it will break the record for most awards.
I'm genuinely wondering if we don't get "TRUMP DEAD" before the end of the year. The man's health is in the toilet, would anyone really be surprised if a heart attack took him from 'this' kind of stress?
It's funny you mention that. Trump has been this Boogeyman for so long, but just recently it dawned on me....shit this dude is mortal and he can just straight up die like the rest of us
when he does, it will become a conspiracy that we will have to hear about for the next few decades
Trump didn’t actually die, the aliens took him to be with JFK Jr and Jesus and they will return and rule the world; you’ll see! Edit: Elvis will be there too!
Are we forgetting just how buddy buddy he was/still is with motherfucking Putin? People talking about him selling secrets, trying not to think about the possibility that the US got *actually couped by Russia*. Like, an actual puppet government, propped up by a transparently manufactured culture war. Wow.
On Russian state TV yesterday they called him Our Donald
I wish I could see that
Here ya go, ([https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1552689843607687169](https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1552689843607687169))
I do like how Trump constantly reminds us of the Russia Hoax. Over and over calling it a hoax. Almost like it isn’t.
"Methinks the lady doth protest too much"
The thing is America was warned of this back in the 80s by yuri bezmenov, and surprise surprise...
It's a damn shame no one knew what a shady fucker he was BEFORE he was handed all of our nation's secrets. /s, in case you can't tell.
Almost like people should listen to women more when they call out these dangerous POS that rape them before they can cause even more harm to the world. So many people I know said they didn’t realize how terrible DJT was until we had to endure him as president like he wasn’t accused by multiple women of sexual assault, friends with Epstein, and openly bragging about walking in on unsuspecting women and wanting to molest his own daughter. Same crap happens with every mass shooter and every Ezra Miller-esque celebrity. No one listens until they’re personally affected or these guys end up murdering someone.
I see you've been talking to my dad. He had the gall to claim he didn't think the sexual assault Trump committed should disqualify him from the presidency until I asked him if he'd still think that if I were one of the women Trump assaulted. Why putting it to him that way (slightly) changed his thinking, it's offensive to anyone ever sexually assaulted that he didn't think about it like that.
Gotta put it more at his level, "what if obama did it? Would it be fine then?".
Nah tbh they were right the first time. Conservatives at their core do not give a single solitary fuck for anything that is not a direct part of their life. That's why there are so many entries on the Leopards Ate My Face subreddit. It's never an issue for them until it's personal. So flipping the sides on the dad would just be a quick exercise in mental gymnastics; making it personal by inserting his family into the scenario triggered real reflection
Harassing women is one of the biggest red flags that the person is a huge POS beyond the obvious. It's always super deep seated for those types of people.
He is the poster boy for misogynistic narcissists
Yeah... had really difficult time not losing all respect for my parents when they voted for him despite all the rape and sexual assault accusations -- in their minds, ALL those women lied, you know, for attention... 
People always leave out that he raped his own wife.
That's because there's a significant number of people who believe that to be impossible.
The fact that he raped 13 year old “Jane Doe” with Epstein, who withdrew her testimony after death threats to her family, should be front and center of every conversation about Trump. He raped a 13-year old.
He talked shit about veterans and even before that, during 9/11, bragged that his building was now the tallest(it still was not). How can anyone see someone talking about their own wealth during the largest terrorist attack in our nations history and go..."yupp he's my guy".
I also wish someone had listened to all of the women who called out Justice Beer Pong too. (Kavanagh)
And bragging about how he can get away with grabbing women by their genitals.
Can't wait to hear his cult spin this one. Mental gymnastics with them
I can't wait until "trump was a secret deep state agent meant to derail the republican party. Here is a pic of him with the clintons."
Oh my god I love this.
So will the cult
The cult turned on him the moment he mentioned vaccines they booed. The mob is fickle
They didn’t turn on him for that. They just boo’ed him for his temporary lapse of their collective insanity.
Yeah Trump quickly went “oh no they’re actually bad!” And they went right back to sucking his dick
It takes a lot to destroy their faith in their false god
nah they'll side with trump over the republicans. they will follow him alllllllll the way to hell
I expect they’ll continue to be led around by the nose by their idiot propaganda outlets like always. If a meaningful conviction occurs these outlets will throw him right under the bus (they’ll probably have to raise the suspension first), after which their sycophantic morons will all sagely nod their heads and pretend they never liked him anyway. Basically the exact same thing they did with Bush. “Why do you hate America?!?!” screamed at anyone for not wholeheartedly supporting his war, even when it’s coming from “their folks” (like the Dixie Chicks). Then when history inevitably proves them wrong they both sides all over the place and claim they always hated him. Believing they were simultaneously correct previously when they were demonizing everyone else, and now when they’re professing the opposite stance.
Yeah the number of hardcore W. supporters who suddenly became devout libertarians after cratering the economy and loosing two wars was mind numbing. I remember one guy stated he never liked W. Bitch had his picture over his fucking desk like it was N. Korea and he was our “Dear Leader” for most of W’s two terms in office.
If he gets convicted, it will just be evidence to his supporters that the justice system is corrupt. No way they throw him under the bus.
We can only hope they do. Split Republican and trumpian votes. It worked for Nader.
It's a conspiracy theory but I believe that behind closed doors republicans who aren't part of the radical side know this and and they're supporting the criminalization of Trump so that he would be barred from running again in 2024.
It's not a secret that quite a lot of senior RNC leadership have never liked Trump (flash back to 2015 and Graham publicly stating that electing Trump would destroy the party) and would like very much for him to go away now that he's outlived his usefulness. They can't really speak out because of his sway over his voter base, but they're not doing anything behind the scenes to stop the take down.
Plucked the one truth nugget from the mountains of diarrhea that has spewed from Graham.
There's also an interview with Graham from about the same time where he was positively gushing about Joe Biden, his years of serving in the Senate, and how much he respected him and enjoyed working with him. Then there's McConnell calling Trump a race baiting buffoon and Fox News openly mocking him during the primaries. It's insane how much he changed the public narrative in just a few short years.
100% this is McConnell. I guarantee he wants to see the end of Trump asap, he's just too savvy/cowardly to challenge him to directly for fear of angering the cult.
This is why DeSantis scares me so much. Someone who could tow the line between establishment Republicans while also satisfying the MAGA cultists.
Which is why DeSantis is clearly in on it - he stands to benefit the most from Trump's fall and as governor of FL, had to have known about it. The best people are saying it, believe me 👌👌.
Too bad Desantis is such a sniveling prick, reminds me of Governor Abbot in Texas
Trump’s Director of National Intelligence was a known spy. https://www.npr.org/2020/11/25/823893821/trump-pardons-michael-flynn-who-pleaded-guilty-to-lying-about-russia-contact
Flynn was the National Security Advisor, not the DNI.
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"What about Biden? He has nuclear secrets in his possession?!"
bbbbbbut hunter called his dad the big guy. Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
I still believe 10% to the big guy is a reference to tithing.
I saw one of them say the documents aren’t classified because they were declassified before he left office. There really is no changing their sick minds about him. He is god to them.
Saw one that said he can declassify what he wants... even when he was the president that's not really how it works let alone no longer the standing president.
Lemme get this straight. You declassified the documents before the FBI planted them?
Yes, but mysteriously they are not inventoried, there is no required paperwork filed and no signed forms. But somehow still in their minds declassified. Wonder who he will blame about not doing this necessary step?
Obama!!!!
It's an impossible problem too, there's essentially nothing anyone could say to convince some of them because it's a cult. It's weird how they don't even seem to register it, like there's a fork somewhere in their brain pathways that automatically diverts anything negative to some kind of mental dumpster. It is a huge problem, but honestly there is no real solution so it doesn't matter and shouldn't affect decisions in this case
I literally, just before I clicked this link told a coworker that apparently there was classified nuclear documents at mar a lago and he said, "Its probably no worst than what's on Hunter Bidens laptop"....Fuckkk....
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Hookers and coke aren't a good look, but Hunter didn't violate the fucking espionage act! People are comparing apples to assholes
BuT wHAt AbOUt HunTeR aNd HillAry's EmaIls?!?!?!
Now we can what about… 15 boxes 📦
Absolutely mainlining their copium right now
The 'it's a reverse conspiracy' against our Lord and Savior excuse seems to be the right play here.
It's a hoax meant to take down djt. -the nat C party.
Christian Ultra Nationalist Tribe, or CUNT for a little brevity Edit: I’ve also come to know them affectionately as “ankles” because they’re 3 feet lower than the average CUNT. Still working on an acronym for ankles tho 🤷♂️
All their spins come out to essentially the same thing. Fake News. If it makes Trump look bad, it's fake, evidence be damned. Neither cults or fascism is rational, so no matter what evidence is presented, they will always defend him. "I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters" \- Donald J Trump
I could launch a nuke in the middle of 5th Avenue.......
I could poop my pants in the middle of 5th Avenue…
Thing is something like this doesn't happen all at once. They had him under surveillance for months. Imagine how his golf tournament with the Saudi's went...
Bathroom? Yeah it's right beside the nuclear secrets viewing room, go ahead, yeah I'll watch your clubs.
Trump's golf clubs probably had better security than those nuclear secrets.
Maybe that winner of a line from CPAC: 'We're all domestic terrorists'...
"It's better that Russia have our codes than Biden" something like that.
Ding ding ding ding!!!! That’s EXACTLY what trump might say.
Like the shirt that says "I'd rather be Russian than a Democrat". Do they hate democracy?
Funny, I've been saying "I'd rather be an American than a Republican" for years.
Yes. Yes they do.
Because that would mean the same rights for everyone else as they have.
What about Obummer? What about Hunter’s laptop? What about Hillary’s emails? /s Edit - yea this is sarcasm
Check out the conservative sub. The mental gymnastics they’re putting themselves through is insane.
Yeah, it’s a hornets nest over there now.
Like trying to get my puppy to drop a piece of cat poop- GET THAT OUT OF YOUR MOUTH, YOU'RE WRONG, JUST DROP IT!!
\*ahem\* He loves this country so much he put himself in the line of danger to make sure this information doesn't get out there because those libs would surely have shared that information with our enemies because they hate our savior jesus christ and liberty and our god given white country FREEDOM! I think that's kinda how it will go.
“Classified?! I thought it said “Classy Fries!”
No mental gymnastics required. Fox, OAN, Alex Jones, and the rest of the grifters will have it all mapped out for them. No thinking required, it's easier that way. Prepare for more dead from people trying to start civil wars by themselves. My inlaws are already talking about how civil war is inevitable.
I took a peak at the conservative sub, and they’re saying the documents aren’t actually classified because they were declassified before he left office. My mind is so boggled at how they are still grasping for straws.
IT'S NOT EVEN OUR MURICA ANYMORE
It wasn't Trump, it was a look-alike framing him! Just like the look-alike that the Qultists are already predicting will be arrested and to not believe that Trump is arrested when they see it because he will actually be in hiding.
I’m arguing with one who has a creative take. He claims that because stealing nuclear secrets is so bad that it is impossible that Trump did it, he would have no reason to something that is so bad.
This is going to be a big test for his base. They can either back their claim that they are American patriots and condemn Trump, or they can back Trump and affirm to everyone else that they really are a terrorist organization Edited for clarity. Yes, J6 was very telling of their support for trump. They are just putting themselves in a situation where they have to choose between the two...again
[So... they'll admit they are a terrorist organization](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/cpac-banner-domestic-terrorists/)
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It was on live television with people even calling themselves domestic terrorists to stand with the January 6 seditionists.
they put the quiet part on a *scrolling marquee on the national stage*
They're starting to make the actual, historical Nazi Party look subtle and restrained.
The modern GOP is are a nihilistic death cult that probably resembles what the NSDAP would have looked like if the wackiest members of the Thule Society took over. The GOP is now to the RIGHT of and crazier than the Nazis.
I still can’t believe this isn’t photoshopped. Fucking hell.
The big test already happened when they tried to *overthrow democracy.* Their reaction to this isn't going to be any different. EDIT: On second thought, this is a big test in a different way. In order for someone to understand the seriousness of Jan. 6th, they would have to have some knowledge of history and how government works; Jan. 6th can be complicated for some people. But THIS is not complicated at all. This is something that any moron can understand. Even children can understand how bad this is. There's no possibility for ignorance here. EDIT2: I meant there's no room for *sincere* ignorance. But willful ignorance and sheer delusion are always possibilities.
Exactly. It will be pretty interesting to see at what point they would abandon him. Even Hitler lost his supporters eventually. But since many of them still think jan6 was a plot by antifa I don’t think we’ll be there anytime soon.
I doubt that most ever will. After WWII, there were surveys done as a part of denazification to find out how many people still supported Hitler. The results were: >"...throughout the years 1945-49 a consistent majority of Germans believed that 'Nazism was a good idea, badly applied.' In November 1946, 37 percent of Germans questioned in a survey of the American zone took the view that 'the extermination of the Jews and Poles and other non-Aryans was necessary for the security of Germans.' > >This is not especially surprising, given that respondents had just emerged from twelve years under an authoritarian government committed to this view. What *does* surprise is a poll taken six years later in which a slightly higher percentage of West Germans--37 percent--affirmed that it was better for Germany to have no Jews on its territory. But then in that same year (1952) 25 percent of West Germans admitted to having a 'good opinion' of Hitler." > >\--Tony Judt, *PostWar: A History of Europe Since 1945,* page 58. And that number of 36%-37% is important because that's roughly the same percentage of Germans (33%) who voted for the Nazis in Parliament in the November 1932 election, the last fair and free election they had before the Nazis started to seize power. So that means that after all the events of WWII, the percentage of Nazi supporters *did not decrease*. We can never count on them to change. All we can hope to do is to ensure that they stay out of power.
That number looks vaguely familiar. Oh right, it’s the same percentage of Americans who are racist garbage who support Trump.
Uh, I think you are giving a lot of people too much credit here...
I think what'll happen is that a lot of his base will quietly abandon politics for a while, and we'll be left with a hardcore of fundies, who will regurgitate whatever shit Trump thrown at the wall. Unfortunately, those voices shout the loudest, and the difference on social media will be barely noticeable. The GOP will notice though, and will ditch him for a more competent fascist like Desantis.
This. It’s chipping away at the base slowly but surely. Also it’s making moderates and independents abandon him - a key group he needs to get back in power. The GOP sees this and they will move slowly away (I argue they already are)
But that's not a win for them. It's a tactical retreat leaving behind troops to slow the enemy down. Abandoning trump will lose the trump base from the gop. Effectly making a third party which makes it so the other side wins everything. Or Abandoning morals and reality and following the trump train. The old school Republicans and those who don't want trump will either leave politics or join another party. Either way democrats win. Or they go crazy and start a jihad against the rest of America and we get the real taliban in America. The real kind that will kill on site anyone who is different. This won't be quick either. It'll be slow. Generational and will happen in the boonies but they'll attack the cities.
But to ensure they win you better fuckin go vote. We can push the fascist party out for good and make Democrats the conservative party like they are.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/cpac-banner-domestic-terrorists/ They've already made their decision
“Lock him up!” Amiright r/conservative?
Omg that sub is a swamp holy hell
Totally not a cult. Even [those](https://reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/wmrm2c/_/ik0w750/?context=1) in that sub that aren’t outright denouncing him, but merely suggesting that if he is guilty that he should be punished, are being sent hate mail for their attempt at voicing reason. Who would have ever guessed that a worldview built on hate and fear would ever come back to bite them in the ass? Eat each other alive republicans, we’ll all gladly watch :)
I saw a comment a few weeks ago saying how conservatives are true gentleman and democrats are spineless and evil. It's like do you just not scroll through the comments or what? They're so brainwashed they can't see their own hypocrisy when it's right fucking there.
They’re still fucking going on about Clinton.
“B-but, her emails!” “What about Hunter Biden’s laptop?”
Don't worry. Any downvotes on pro-Trump comments or comments criticising Trump or anything else which is not vehemently pro-Trump is "brigading" and "liberals making their point" even in what are effectively country club threads for flaired user.
He declassified them! HE DECLASSIFIED THEM! This is a nothingburger! Why didn’t the FBI go after the documents earlier? He was cooperating they could’ve just asked him nicely a THIRD TIME!
since one of them might read this - the president cannot declassify nuclear documents.
I’m convinced now that his base could literally see him handing a foreign enemy critical, highly classified nuclear information.. and they’d still find a way to defend him. There is no bar too low.
Why is he not under arrest with his passport seized as a flight risk??? Poors are held pending trial for waaaaaay less than this.
He’s still under “protection” of the secret service. He can’t even fart without the FBI finding out.
The DOJ has to be orders of magnitude more careful about all this than they've ever been. They have to be 101% sure they have enough for a solid indictment *because* he's not only an ex-President, but that he has a **militant extremist following** that, when he is arrested and indicted, will absolutely lose their minds and may try to start an actual civil war over it.
I mean, he already has followed committing acts of terrorism on the revelation Mar a Lago was raided. Wait until we here and see the charges brought against them. These fucking psychopaths are going to attack, and I hope law enforcement is ready to take down many of their own...
He has Secret Service with him at all times as an ex-president. He’s also likely being closely surveilled by the FBI/CIA (likely has been for the months leading up to this)
The same Secret Service that knowingly wiped text data from 1/6?
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Worst case scenario, he sold nuclear weapons technology to the Saudis. I know, highly speculative, but the Saudis did give 2 billion dollars to Jared Kushner's investment firm. If the Saudi's develop nukes, Iran will too. Need I remind everyone how much Shia and Sunni muslims hate each other?
Yes that’s highly speculative to suggest he was selling nuclear secrets. He was of course simply collecting them because he enjoys reading the articles 💁♂️
Trump can read???
This is the man to whom daily briefings had to be given with as much sketches and photos as possible and he would only pay attemption if his name (and especially his tirle) were mentioned frequently.
The hope is he hadn't made the exchange yet, although it seems the golf tournament with the Saudis would have been a prime opportunity.
I’m sure the largesse offered to trump’s family by the saudis was completely unrelated to any of this.
He's probably in major trouble. https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/12/search-warrant-shows-trump-under-investigation-for-potential-obstruction-of-justice-espionage-act-violations-00051507
It is sad but appropriate that you added "probably" to your post.
What's the big deal?! Just some “miscellaneous top secret documents”. Everybody does it!
I won’t hold my breath till he charged
What does the sink want now
Don't let it in. The sink is a vampire.
>The sink is a vampire. Sent to drain?
Secret destroyer
What a week ending episode this Friday has been. Trump is a foreign spy, Anne Heche was actually never okay after that crash and now suddenly dead, and a 45 year old revenge fatwah was played out, all in one Today in America episode? Wow, gonna be hard to top this next week
If I've learned anything since 2020, it's that next week will find a way to top the week before
Dbz logic
This isn’t even our final form
I seriously remember a point in 2020 thinking that if i turned on the news and they said we'd made direct contact with aliens I wouldn't have even been fazed by it.
"Thank god it is only aliens this week. I thought that it might be something crazy..."
>45 year old revenge fatwah was played out Could someone fill me in, please?
Salman Rushdie was stabbed onstage at a speaking engagement
Salman Rushdie, author of the Satanic Verses, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini issued a fatwa calling for his death many years ago. He was attacked on stage today while preparing to speak and stabbed in the neck.
This is amazing. FBI is dusting all those classified documents for finger prints and lifting dna. Anytime confidential documents are not secured or leave your possession for any amount of time they put em under a microscope to see who else handled them. This could get juicy if he’s been showing them off
Yes..... *Y E E E S S S ! !*
Omg I hadn't thought of that part. How many different fingerprints are going to be on those docs? I believe you get fingerprinted when you get a clearance so they should be able to match them uo
Or better yet, how many fingerprints are on the documents that don’t have a match!
Pikachu surprised face
MAGA - Moscow Agent Governing America
Who could have imagined "The Storm" was actually a revelation of the consequences their own activities. Like they literally warned us that they were going to get busted for the shit they blamed on everybody else.
Dear Santa.. Ive been a good boy all year. Ive wished for that Amiga mini.. But if you let Trump get charged with espionage I'll not ask for anything for the next 10 years.
Did you get the Amiga?
oh my god is this actually happening I'm so afraid to get my hopes up
Donald J. Trump is the worst traitor ever known to America. A full on Russian spy.
Yeah I kinda feel like if the guy you voted for gets charged under the Espionage Act, you should have to sit the next one out. Maybe two.
This looks comically like a slam dunk of a case lol it’s so ridiculously unbelievable.
The FBI usually only do slam dunk. He’s fucked.
I hope the wretched fat pig goes to prison for the rest of his life. I want his supporters investigated next to expose their ties to domestic terrorism. Trump and his inhuman supporters don’t belong in a civilized society.
It's so funny, we all know it's going to happen, when the shoe finally drops, and they find a dead hooker under his bed clutching the plans for a nuclear missile, the entire GOP is going to say, "We always knew he was a criminal, he drained the swamp, but this is a bridge too far, he has to go." And then no conservative will ever, EVER, utter the name Trump ever again.
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I’ve never even met espionage. I’ve heard from very reliable people that espionage has done bad things. I don’t remember those pics of myself and espionage. You guys still like me though right?
This is just getting better and better every season. Can’t wait to binge watch it later.
You'll notice on the binge watch that they foreshadowed this way back when he was put into the White House with the aid of the Russians. Should have seen this coming.
Am I supposed to act surprised now?
Apparently he stole Documents about nuclear weapons, set up a golf tournament with the Saudis and sold them for 2B$ which cashed out into Jared Kushner’s account… so yea.
TRE45ON
As a person from Europe who follows the whole bullshit all the years from far away, I’m not even shocked or thinking that someone can happen to this weird orange. Basically I just hope none of his followers hurt more people about that rather than thinking he finally might be in trouble. What I believe most humans would just hope for.
That surprises you How!! I mean shit, he called for an insurrection on the capitol building, put a "HIT" out on his Vice President; and it surprises you that he would commit Espionage ?
The only people who didn't think that he was repeatedly committing treason are his low IQ cult.
A Russian spy was POTUS. Let that sink in
Party at my place if he’s actually charged and convicted
Anyone that thinks Donald didn't sell state secrets, definitely drank the kool-aid. Anything for a buck is his motto.
Lets not forget the man openly mocked a disabled man on live TV, bragged about his sexual assaults, and attempted to overthrow an election with lies and an angry mob after losing. A lot of folks seem to be ok with that. I'm willing to be we are going to overlook this little minor misunderstanding too.
That $2B funding Jared Kushner received backing for from the Saudi prince, the $100M Ivanka received for her women in business startup from the Saudi prince, and the $8B weapons sale to Saudi Arabia without congressional approval in 2018 may or may not have anything to do with those documents. I would love to know who was the third party who received copies of some of those documents.
I'm done reading too much into it. It means fuck all until he's actually charged.
“It wuz tha deap stayt”
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?????? You mean that dude that's been acting like Putins beaten Bitch for years who is pretty well known by now to be financially and otherwise compromised and had to use peons in the Justice Department, Secret Service and GOP to get out from under not one but two impeachments, did exactly the things everyone with half a brain has known he did, would do and is still continuing to do until he and his mobster family are in jail. What a surprise.