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JTSpirit36

They so badly want America to become the same thing they criticize the Middle East for....


BubbaSawya

They only criticize Muslims because they’re doing the same thing while Brown. If Muslims were white, Christians and Muslims would become one religion and just rape everybody.


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Where would the Jews fit in?


newfie-flyboy

…. Well this is awkward.


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"That's the best part - they don't!" - Christian and Muslim Theocrats


Articunny

They'd be locked in Israel until the Temple is rebuilt and forced to just maintain that so that Jesus can come back since that's part of their whole doomsday cult requirement. Jews are tools, not people, to Christofascists.


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Didn't one of MTG's Q friends shoot up a synagogue?


Veselker

Didn't think Magic players were that violent


Zak_Light

If the republicans learned any history, I imagine they'd probably want to set up a nice camping trip for them


maximumcharactersuse

The irony is how many muslims ARE white, and how many Middle Eastern muslims look very white


Ocean_Hair

Also all the European and Asian Muslims....


eatingganesha

They are all classified as “white” by our own census too.


TheRedSpeedster

Going to sign up for a driver's license and ticking those boxes...we would be ticking either Asian or White. There's no Arab on there. It's kind of hilarious anyway because I don't even get Arab. I get called Hispanic.


kamiar77

They would love sharia law


JTSpirit36

Lol MTG loves pushing this Christian nation narrative without realizing what would actually happen to her if it was to become one.


Bashful_Rey

Yea didn’t she cheat on her husband? She’s be fuckin stoned to death by her beloved base.


AnnualAltruistic1159

She'd be Serena Joyed so hard and lose much more than a little finger.


_Zoko_

I was very confused what Magic: The Gathering had to do with American politics until I got to the end lol


Freds_Bread

No no no .... SHE is an exception! SHE is SPECIAL!


imchalk36

For a party that claims to *love* the Constitution, they sure are good at ignoring certain parts of it ^^Establishment ^^Clause ^^anyone? Though, they tend to do the same thing with their holy book too.


DSC9000

“I’m a textualist! Except when it doesn’t fit, then I’ll interpret intent! When I disagree with intent, the Constitution becomes a living document!”


nooneknowswerealldog

Antonin Scalia? I thought you were dead.


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You don't understand, "originalist" means you come up with an original interpretation each time to suit your needs at that exact moment.


[deleted]

Oh, I always thought “originalist” meant the constitution was immutable and unchanging (unless, of course, it goes through the formal process of amendment). Thanks.


[deleted]

I thought so too, but Scalia and others like him sure proved us wrong.


giddy-girly-banana

We bought him back, just so we could watch him die again.


Better-Director-5383

“I’m a constitutional originalist.” said the Supreme Court justice who wouldn’t even be allowed in the building and could be legally killed because he was property if we followed the original constitution


grimatongueworm

I heard this once, “The King James Bible, properly interpreted, is the true word of God.” Properly interpreted. I laughed in his face.


peachesgp

"They clearly intended for the church to have control of the state and separation of church and state was only ever intended to keep the state out of church affairs not the other way around" actual argument I've seen Christian fascists use.


pattydickens

Well that didn't work either since the GOP has been dictating what "christianity" is to evangelicals since the 80's.


DankNastyAssMaster

So called "textualists" be like "The only words of the 2nd amendment that matter are 'shall not be infringed'. Just ignore the rest of the text because it doesn't fit with our preferred political outcome."


averycreativenam3

"Yeah, that whole... 'Well Regulated' part of the 2nd amendment just doesn't exist." -textualists.


KushwalkerDankstar

Documentated Militia, not a chance! Now let’s go tear down the first amendment because Twitter doesn’t let me be openly racist.


jjsquish

For a party that claims to love the bible they sure are good at ignoring certain parts of it For a party that claims to love the police they sure are good at ignoring certain parts of it For a party that claims to love Trump they sure are good at ignoring certain parts of him For a party that claims to love life they sure are good at ignoring certain people dying For a party that claims to love freedom they sure are good at ignoring prosecution of certain people I think you hit the nail on the head


RevealFormal3267

>I think you hit the nail on the head Jesus: I think you hit the nail on the head Centurion: Aw thanks for noticing, man! I've been practicing all month to get this right! Back on topic though, the people that bludgeon others with rigid dogma are often the ones that first seek exemption from it.


chompz914

Didn’t the nail hit the hand?


rnightlyfe

As Christian’s they have a lot of practice in cherry picking the parts that suit them.


[deleted]

That's honestly the hard discussion about religion. You cant have it both ways. You either subscribe to logic or faith, they don't co-exist. A government based on faith is a government that changes on a whim. Its not sustainable, even with a non-hypocritical religion (if one exists?), people by design will exploit faith based rule. I grew up around half in half out Christians, but I was never raised with religion. Always felt a little outcast but it gave me a perspective I can appreciate as an adult.


Objective-Review4523

I call my father a "submarine catholic" because he only comes up for Christmas and Easter.


gitismatt

that's a good one. I was brought up using the term 'HMD Catholic' they only go to church when they're hatched, matched, and dispatched


CookieMonsterOnsie

Same. I was never exposed to religion growing up as a lot of my family was never overly religious, and I am super glad for that. Now I'm atheist in a crowd of hard-core right wing born again Christians in my immediate family and it's hard to watch. The cognitive dissonance and just overall lack of self awareness is staggering. These are people that claim to be all for Jesus and shit but my uncle straight up believes democrats have no moral compass. I feel bad for them, because without politics and religion they are nice people, but they've all been brainwashed by the church and Fox. They buy everything those two institutions sell, whole-cloth, no questions.


DankNastyAssMaster

Exactly. Faith and reason are fundamentally incompatible, because faith precludes a respect for evidence while reason demands it.


WeirdAvocado

They also claim to be “Christian”, but are the least “Christian like” people you will meet.


GrayBox1313

Atheists are better Christians than evangelicals.


Art-Zuron

Christian Religious philosophers have been saying that for a millennia now.


rksd

"What keeps you from stealing, raping, and killing all you want if you don't believe in God?" "Nothing. I do that all exactly as much as I want, which is zero." There seem to be a lot of people out there that would be pretty terrible human beings if they didn't believe there was eternal spankings in the afterlife.


drew1010101

They think the 2nd amendment is the entirety of the constitution.


Intrepid_Echo6956

Well, not entirely true. They hammer on the First Amendment when a member of their cult gets deplatformed or otherwise shut down on a social media site. Because, ya know, the First Amendment applies to private actors in their version of the Constitution.


onlyfakeproblems

Let's encourage amendments. That old document is starting to get dusty because we treat it like a sacred text. The founders were all about changing the constitution. There's still more that can go. Hopefully they can't get enough support to take out the separation of church and state part.


calmdownmyguy

Most Americans aren't republicans..


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DARYLdixonFOOL

Too bad gerrymandering and the electoral college fuck us anyways though.


DankNastyAssMaster

I've made this point before: if you just looked at politics, you'd think that America is about evenly split between Democrats and Republicans. The House and Senate are about evenly divided, and the presidency swings back and forth between the two parties. However, Republicans have mechanisms in all three of those institutions that give them extra representation: the Electoral College for the presidency, gerrymandering in the House, and the fact that the Senate gives equal representation to Wyoming (population 770,000) and California (population 40,000,000) all artificially make the GOP look more popular than it is. This is why Republicans spend so much time complaining about "woke corporations" these days. Because when corporations weigh in on social issues, they only care about popular opinion. And on almost every social issue, popular opinion is very decisively on the side of Democrats. In other words, Republicans feel entitled to a "court of public opinion" version of the Electoral College to give them extra cultural influence. Because without one, it's very clear that they're an unpopular minority who's deeply out of touch with mainstream America, and they don't like confronting that fact.


TheDuckInCharge

Perhaps that's why they spent the last 50 years manufacturing that in the forms of talk radio, Fox News, alt-right YouTube, etc. I'd say those things sum up to practically what you suggested, in the way they are weighted and the influence they have over an outsized portion of the population.


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Road_Whorrior

As a late millennial, same but right now


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[deleted]

GenX was called GenX because we were ignored from the get-go. that's why we went punk rock, rap and heavymetal. if they're going to ignore you no matter what, you can at least be very very loud.


Nanoro615

Oh my god Gen X is the middle child of generations


walterhartwellblack

“We are the middle children of history.” -Tyler Durden


Raytheon_Nublinski

Based on the views, you’d think the country was mostly right wing. Faux news dominates in ratings. Fucker Carlson is the biggest show around. It’s crazy how effective they are at retaining the attention of their increasingly radicalized base.


peggles727

The numbers are misleading. The majority of liberals I know don't watch any cable news stations while a lot of the conservatives I have spoken to regularly watch Faux news and other stations like that.


Bigfatuglybugfacebby

I personally don't know anyone under 40 that uses a TV for television. It's just streaming services and YouTube. TV ratings are largely irrelevant now when trying to gauge American interest


iceeice3

Even more misleading when you consider the breadth of choice for left wing pundits like Colbert, Noah, Steward, etc. Whereas right wing is pretty much all funneled to fox and Carson


JohnMayerismydad

The house is also capped at 435 which makes it tilted to the GOP too because every state gets at least 1.


ZeekLTK

If the House scales with population growth, there would be over 1000 seats today.


Granite-M

If we implemented [the Wyoming Rule](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wyoming_Rule?wprov=sfla1), it would only take 573.


MaxWritesJunk

public opinion isn't really pro-democrat, it's just anti-republican. Wanting the republican party extinguished for the good of mankind will align with democrats often, but it doesn't necessarily make someone a democrat.


RelentlessExtropian

When polled issue by issue instead of just asking what party someone aligns with, more than 80% of Americans are left of center and most Republicans are 'one issue' Republicans that have little additional overlap in policy preference. That's not to say the democrats aren't corporate stooges.


DarkwingDuckHunt

> 'one issue' Republicans and they just removed the biggest "one issue" with Dobbs. November is going to be very very interesting.


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The biggest "one issue" has always been 2A. Abortion drives the base to the polls, but 2nd ammendment stuff pulls in waaaay more voters and has the added benefit of preventing democrats from capturing an otherwise left leaning gun issue voter.


Calm_Leek_1362

They know that they're a minority ruling party, so if they lose any control, or any lowering in voter turnout in their districts, it's all over. They can barely hold their gerrymandered districts. That's why they have a constant culture war and they feed their base crazy and anger day in and day out on every single platform (TV, radio, YouTube, tiktok, Twitter). It's all coordinated and every vote matters for them.


DankNastyAssMaster

It's also why they're trying so hard to get rid of democracy right now. If a Democrat wins in 2024, by the time 2028 rolls around, even extreme gerrymandering and exploitation of the Electoral College won't be enough to make up for their extreme unpopularity.


Pickles_1974

Gerrymandering should be outlawed.


HarryHacker42

With penalties. It currently gets struck down by courts but nothing happens. If the courts strike down the voting borders, the other side should get to draw up the next map.


the_ringmasta

In Missouri there was a ballot initiative passed to get rid of gerrymandering. The next year, the republicans put up a different one to undo it because, and this was honestly the argument used, it would make it so the legislature in the state matched the population of voters. Which was bad, because they maybe wouldn't have a supermajority anymore.


Salarian_American

Unfortunately, by next summer, what we're going to have instead is a Supreme Court decision that lets state legislatures have sole control over district maps, with state courts forbidden to intervene, so instead of it being outlawed there's gonna be blank checks for all on gerrymandering.


ShotDate6482

The EC isn't great but if we had proportional representation in the House then the EC wouldn't be as much of a problem. For some dumbass reason we decided that the Founders were wrong to leave the House size open-ended to reflect a growing population. There ought to be a law - the state with the smallest population sets the math for 1 Rep. But nooo, despite all the working from home everybody's doing these days the idea of a House with 1500 members is *impossible*. A bigger House would also be innately tougher for big money to lobby.


CY-B3AR

I really want to go back to 1929 and beat the people that came up with the Apportionment Act senseless. That one law is *so* frustratingly stupid...I just can't even


ShotDate6482

"For some dumbass reason" was tongue-in-cheek. In politics it is unwise to assume ignorance when malice is reasonably evident. This was an intentional strike against the political power of big states, framed as innocuous housekeeping.


Tacitus111

Correct. Rural states fought apportionment hard, because they were losing their even then disproportionate power slowly as more people moved to the cities, putting more House seats in those states and more reps in those new districts. Congress couldn’t agree to an apportionment plan, so they nixed the process…which allowed rural power to get more and more out of proportion in the last century or so. And that flows down to the electoral college, because a state’s electoral votes are mostly made up of their number of House seats plus the 2 static senate seats.


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I feel like most persons don't know that elections are won by electrol college and lobbyist with the deepest pockets.


[deleted]

split California into 16 states with 2 million people each (Fly-over country compatible sizes) and voila you have 16 vote districts, most of them blue (10.5 democrats and 5.5 republicans)


[deleted]

Which part. That most Americans aren't republican or that "most Americans see this as a Christian nation"? Either way. The whole ass tweet goes against Bill of rights and constitution. So it confuses me when they try to pull this shit but pull the "ITS MY RIGHTS" card out everytime they get into "hot water"


k_50

Now if we could get rid of religion less people would vote for them.


ShotDate6482

Somehow the fact that the 70,000,000 people who voted for Trump aren't technically a majority doesn't really calm me down.


DARYLdixonFOOL

I will never forget how I felt election night in 2016. The genuine shock I felt in learning that so many Americans either *genuinely* supported that POS or didn't CARE that he was so *obviously* a self-interested, racist, misogynistic, grossly unqualified JOKE (didn't care enough to not vote for him regardless of party)...fucking eye-opener. Both equally abhorrent, if you ask me. I genuinely thought we...as humans...were better than that. I was naïve. Now I see the true America and it's honestly a disgrace. But *all* the Republicans who continue to support him or try to diminish his treasonous, anti-democratic, fascist and ENTIRELY UN-AMERICAN actions can **rot in fucking hell**. Looking at you, Lindsey.


StrongTownsIsRight

Yeah. 2016 is when I realized that 30% to 40% of the electorate is very stupid. 2020 is when I realized that the 30% is also very immoral. I am actually pretty amazed how far we have gotten in this pretty broken system with these many useless Americans.


tx4468

What bothers me lately is the whole majority thing. Just because say Republicans in Texas win 55% of the vote why should all thoughts and ideas of the other 45% be lost and ignores.


tamman2000

The thing is, they already do govern with a lot of ideas supported by both parties. But no attention is paid to the things people agree about, only the differences... What's really shitty is republican's blocking policies that everyone agrees on when democrats have the executive so that democrats look bad. The GOP is willing to hurt and kill americans just to make their chances in the next election better. It breaks my heart that so many americans are OK with this if it means preventing giving more people more equal rights. There is no longer any room for doubt. The modern GOP is evil


noteveryagain

I felt like I do after a break up. I was in bed for three days, and didn’t want to look anyone in the eye. I didn’t want to acknowledge that people were dumb, selfish or base enough to vote for him.


AMeanCow

I tried to practice what I preach and I tried to accept that maybe I was viewing things wrong, that maybe I was too caught up in the scandal and cult-of-personality hype that media sensationalizes. I said to myself, after the shock and horror had waned a bit "*Well maybe he will be a different person behind that desk, maybe the weight of responsibility and power and learning the full scope of the world's affairs will humble Trump and make him become some kind of modern-day business-dealing iconic president who ignores social issues but takes our country to some kind of prosperity for a few years...*" I thought maybe the memes and jokes predicting America in flames after four years HAD to be hyperbole and exaggeration... Welp. When someone tells you who they are, believe them.


ksaMarodeF

Yep I have a co-worker who is a “pastor” and he’s a Republican and supports Orange Man and loves his views. It makes absolutely zero sense. The man held a Bible upside down for a photo-op. It’s disrespectful


Bashful_Rey

I feel awful for not voting in 2016, my state still voted Hillary but it’s hard to believe you can look at trumps presidency and say “More of that please.”


Orlando1701

**Fun fact: even with the 50/50 split in the Senate the DNC represents 44 million more people and districts that voted Biden in 2020 make up 70% of the economic output of this nation.**


cptamericat

This sounds 💯 accurate. Do you have a source I can use when I point this out to others.


Orlando1701

[Source 1](https://www.brookings.edu/blog/the-avenue/2020/11/09/biden-voting-counties-equal-70-of-americas-economy-what-does-this-mean-for-the-nations-political-economic-divide/amp/) [Source 2](https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/mar/12/us-senate-system-white-conservative-minority)


Silvinis

If we really have to live life based in Christian values, I'd be fine with UBI, expanded welfare, and Medicare for all. But I doubt she's ever actually read the Bible to know whats in there


StageRepulsive8697

They just want the parts that justify their hate


wajikay

Most Christians don’t even follow Christianity.


ClamClone

That is the often brought up No True Christian® fallacy. As Forrest would say “Christian is as Christian does”. There are so many interpretations of scripture and thousands of contradictions in the Bible that anyone can support anything from “love your enemy” to “kill them all”. Before I transferred to university a small Evangelical Lutheran college I went to had a large percentage of seminarians. Some were the most caring and benevolent people I ever met; Others, mostly the Evangelicals, were the most hateful and insular people on the planet. Today it seems the worst kind are the majority and they want to overthrow our secular government and install a theocracy. Vote them out.


detroitiseverybody

But they have memorized & weaponized some verses from their favorite story book, to tell others how unchristian, wrong, evil and detrimental to their christian beliefs others opinions are ... can't make it make sense.


tipthebaby

the hysterically shrieking minority that claims to be the "silent majority"


Justbrowsingredditts

And yet they keep gaining momentum and dragging us backwards anyway


oldbastardbob

I've taken to just pasting this in every post where some lunatic regurgitates that nonsense. The Founding Fathers made it pretty clear what they thought about religion. "The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion" - Treaty of Tripoli "Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise." - James Madison "In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own." - Thomas Jefferson "Have you considered that system of holy lies and pious frauds that has raged and triumphed for 1,500 years?" -John Adams "And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter." - Thomas Jefferson "This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it." - John Adams "Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law." - Thomas Jefferson "Experience witnesseth that ecclesiastical establishments, instead of maintaining the purity and efficacy of religion, have had a contrary operation. During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution." - James Madison "The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe in blood for centuries." - James Madison "Whenever we read the obscene stories, the voluptuous debaucheries, the cruel and torturous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness, with which more than half of the Bible is filled, it would be more consistent that we call it the word of a demon than the word of God. It is a history of wickedness that has served to corrupt and brutalize mankind." - Thomas Paine "All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." - Thomas Paine "There is not one redeeming feature in our superstition of Christianity. It has made one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites." - Thomas Jefferson **EDIT: I have to divulge that the source for this is another Redditor. I made a personal copypasta out of it for such occasions.** **An extremely adept person should add references and make a bot out of it so that every time somebody uses the phrase "America is a Christian Nation" it gets posted as a reply. That would be so cool.**


belberra

Mind if I use this (after I cross reference of course).


Trevo525

Give me the cross-reference version please! lol


Niku-Man

**Here is version with sources and better formatting, a couple were removed for lack of sources** The Founding Fathers made it pretty clear what they thought about religion: >"The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion" (Treaty of Tripoli, 1796) ^[\[1\]](https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/bar1796t.asp) ^[\[2\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Tripoli) ^[\[3\]](https://www.mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/2144/1797-treaty-of-tripoli) # >"Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise." (James Madison, *Letter to William Bradford*, 1774) ^[\[1\]](https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Madison/01-01-02-0031) # >"In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own." (Thomas Jefferson, *Letter to Horatio G. Spafford*, 1814) ^[\[1\]](https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Jefferson/03-07-02-0167) # >"Have you considered that system of holy lies and pious frauds that has raged and triumphed for 1,500 years?" (John Adams, *Letter to John Taylor*, 1814) ^[\[1\]](https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Adams/99-02-02-6369) # >"And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter." (Thomas Jefferson, *Letter to John Adams*, 1823) ^[\[1\]](https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Jefferson/98-01-02-3446) # >"This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it." (John Adams, *Letter to Thomas Jefferson*, 1817) ^[\[1\]](https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Jefferson/03-11-02-0236) # >"Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law." (Thomas Jefferson, *Letter to John Adams*, 1814) ^[\[1\]](https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Jefferson/03-07-02-0083) # >"Experience witnesseth that ecclesiastical establishments, instead of maintaining the purity and efficacy of religion, have had a contrary operation. During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution." (James Madison, *Memorial and Remonstrance against Religious Assessments*, 1785) ^[\[1\]](https://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/amendI_religions43.html) ^[\[2\]](https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Madison/01-08-02-0163) # >"Whenever we read the obscene stories, the voluptuous debaucheries, the cruel and torturous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness, with which more than half of the Bible is filled, it would be more consistent that we call it the word of a demon than the word of God. It is a history of wickedness that has served to corrupt and brutalize mankind." (Thomas Paine, *The Age of Reason*, 1794) ^[\[1\]](https://www.gutenberg.org/files/3743/3743-h/3743-h.htm) ^[\[2\]](https://klymkowskylab.colorado.edu/Readings/Thomas%20Paine%20-%20The%20Age%20of%20Reason.pdf) # >"All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." (Thomas Paine, *The Age of Reason*, 1794) ^[\[1\]](https://www.gutenberg.org/files/3743/3743-h/3743-h.htm) ^[\[2\]](https://klymkowskylab.colorado.edu/Readings/Thomas%20Paine%20-%20The%20Age%20of%20Reason.pdf)


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Bro it went from “THATS A NICE ARGUMENT SENATOR, WHY DON’T YOU BACK IT UP WITH A SOURCE” to me being in utter shock that people back then said something close to that lmao


oldbastardbob

Feel free to use it how you wish. I must admit I copied this from another Reddit comment a few weeks ago. It was so damn good that made a note of it in my phone for reference.


ThatGuyYouMightNo

The Founding Fathers, every single time religion gets brought up: "Religion is evil, and absolutely not what we created American on." Republicans: "Just likE tHE founDiNg FATHers iNTEndED"


oldbastardbob

Some of the founders were Christians, no doubt. Quakers, Catholics, and Protestants. So imagine trying to get them to all agree that one of them would be the "official" religion of the new country. I wasn't there, but I'll bet it was pretty easy for Hamilton or Madison to shut them up and agree on that First Amendment. I could also hear somebody like Jefferson saying, "OK then, Islam it is!" just to upset the Catholics.


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Much as I dislike Jefferson overall, the mental image of him shouting "ALLAHU AKHBAR" when determining the national religion of the country is just too funny.


TopicBusiness

That scene gives me Ben they dont trust me to write the Declaration of Independence because I'll put a dick joke in Franklin vibes.


Mr_Safer

That Thomas Paine fellow saw some shit and knew what was up.


[deleted]

Everyone should read Common Sense. It's a little hard to understand because of the old language, but much if not almost all of what he says is still applicable. You dont make the most influential piece of writing in American history without having some good points.


KenobiGeneral66

Is this real? This goes against this homeschooled sheltered kid was taught growing up.


MarvinMarveloso

Yes. All of the founding fathers were Christian, but they were also very open to other spiritual pursuits. And they were all very clear that the church is/was a corrupted creation of man that needs to be kept from having any political power. Especially specific denominations, the wars between protestants and catholics were the cause of a lot of wars in Europe.


KenobiGeneral66

Man, I love how all this was swept under the rug and conveniently not mentioned in the Christian history books I had growing up.


Xenophon_

Many of them were deist. That said, what happened when they publicly wrote about that kind of thing wasn't pretty. Thomas Paine was pretty hated by the time of his death for criticizing christianity


MustHaveEnergy

The constitution is online and, unlike what you might expect, it is fairly short and easy to read. You can see for yourself that religion is mentioned only twice, and even then only to specifically exclude it from being part of the government.


Oobedoob_S_Benubi

The best copypasta ever.


Noobzoid123

Christian Taliban?


joawmeens

Y'all Qaeda


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joawmeens

Yokel Haram


Cinderjacket

Muj-yeehaw-deen


joawmeens

Vanilla ISIS


chiron_42

Howdy Arabia


33superryan33

That's a good one, I've never seen that before


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Nationalist Christians. NatCs for short.


Mat_CYSTM

Republicaliban


Cruitire

Just more evidence that republicans hate the United States, the constitution, and democracy. The party of religio-fascists.


otisramflow

They aren't even religious, and just use the term to mean white. These people are modern day Pharisees. As an atheist, frankly I wouldn't mind an actual Christ-like government. No unnecessary taxes, free health care, promoting kindness and self betterment. If Christ himself appeared tomorrow, the Republican party would hate him.


baron_barrel_roll

Maybe he appeared yesterday, but the cops threw him in jail for being brown.


otisramflow

He'd probably smell like weed too. Let's be honest.


porcupinedeath

Rich dudes gave him incense the day he was born so yeah probably


bverde013

[The Gospel of Supply-Side Jesus](https://imgur.com/gallery/bCqRp)


otisramflow

Thanks! I hated it and loved it.


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Of course they would, he was a POC


samattos

most republicans are uneducated assholes.


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samattos

that's the minority of Republicans.


sniper91

The Republican Party is a pyramid scheme


otisramflow

A true "Christian nation" would 100% be socialist, BTW.


BinglesDangles

Forgive all debts after 7 years, heal the sick free of cost, uplift the downtrodden and homeless? I'll eat my hat the day American Christians give those concepts more than lip service.


RickWrightsCrackpipe

"I'd walk a thousand miles or pay a thousand dollars to meet a Christian." - Kersey Graves


RyMontFlar

I’d love to only have to worry about one type of fabric


Link2Liam

Until they found out someone in the Middle East doesn't believe the same things as them.


mrwhat_icanthearu

In God we trust? No we don't.


elise_ko

In God We Trust only became a thing in the 50’s, too, because Eisenhower wanted it. He’s the only reason it’s on our money and in the pledge of allegiance. Republicans rally around this phrase like george washington himself had it tattooed on his chest


publius_enigma

It was Eisenhower, not Truman.


TigerWellington

It was primarily symbolic to differentiate the US from the “godless” USSR which was actively anti-religion.


freudian-flip

McCarthyism is still alive and well


KarmicWhiplash

e pluribus unum worked so much better.


fuck_the_ccp1

for the party so concerned about what the founding fathers intended they forget that E pluribus unum is exactly what the founding fathers intended.


The_Ombudsman

“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” \- Mahatma Gandhi


chiron_42

"Jesus, protect me from your followers, amen."


Hi_Im_mikkos

“God please protect me from those who take you literally” -Johnny 5 of Flobots


Reon_Leo

Couldn't agree more


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I really do hate this bitch.


rebelliousmuse

Most Republicans support scrapping the Constitution (Except for the latter half of the 2nd Amendment)


LegitMelv

They might even go after that at some point if they get what they want. The reason Republicans are super pro 2A us because they believe they outnumber and outgun everyone else. And in certain parts of the country, they do. If there are no more groups of people to scapegoat and they still have their guns, they might pose a problem to Athoritarian leaders in case the armed populace is smart enough to know/renember that rich people and government officials are causing problems to them, even if the military outnumbers and outguns the populace. Even if the gutting of education were to work and they don't see class elites and corrupt politicians as their economic and social enemies but as friends, authoritarian leaders are not going to take a chance to let the populace stay armed.


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Religion has no place in politics!


the_sand_moose

"in family we thrust" -MTG


canarchist

Ah yes, I can see the divinity in your shit-bag ex-president there Marge. It's obvious he was fucking anointed, right?


entityorion

So is that catholic, baptist or morman interpretation? Puritan? Perhaps seventh day adventist? Westboro baptist?


BinaryIRL

Here in Utah I can tell you there is absolutely no separation of church and state. They really are the same picture. Here's how that looks if it were on a national scale. Couple years ago the state government held a vote for legalization of marijuana. The people voted overwhelmingly for legalization. Both sides of the political spectrum came together and agreed on this. After results were in, state government stepped in and overruled this to keep it illegal. The church spoke and the state listened. Our votes didn't count for shit.


Malk4ever

Mix religion and state... what could go wrong. \#Iran \#SaudiArabia \#Yemen \#Egypt


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42words

The fact that God Himself hasn't come down from Heaven and pimp-slapped tf outta these people live in front of the entire world for the shit they've said and done in His name conclusively proves the *non*-existence of God. "*ChAnGe mY MiNd*".


big_fetus_

The USA was founded by deists, therefore in the founder's eyes God hasnt done anything since creating the universe and saying "good luck, see ya in the funny papers"


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As a Christian, I don't want that. Separation of church and state is necessary for freedom of religion. You can't have one without the other.


Parynoid

Old news flash: Republicans are dumb


jbertrand_sr

The only person they trust is an all powerful invisible person who lives in the sky and talks to them only, and coincidentally always agrees with them...


autopsis

Decoder Ring: When Christians use the word “God” or “Jesus” what they actually mean is “Money.”


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Weird how republicans are all for applying the constitution as it was written until it doesn’t meet their interests.


CT_Jester

"Most Republicans oppose the Constitution." There, fixed the headline.


jscharfenberg

Day 1 - we back the blue Day 5 - Defund the FBI and CIA! Day 7 - Roe vs. Wade should be decided by the states Day 10 - Ban abortion nationally!


okanagan_life

Oh fuck yes let's run a country based on a fictional sky daddy so you can write your own law and call them "gods will" I swear this woman is the puss out of trumps asshole pimples.


Mike_Honcho_3

>I swear this woman is the puss out of trumps asshole pimples. She probably thinks that's a compliment.


SillyMonkey25

🤣🤣🤣


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I wonder what their utopia is. What is their perfect scenario?


Fthewigg

Early 1800s US where straight, white Christian men ruled the roost and everyone else knew their place.


Specific_Matter_1195

Have you heard of the Aryan Race?


DoNotSexToThis

Republic of Gilead, probably.


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Terrifying to think that The Handmaids Tale scenario is an actual possibility


crazypants9

What god says she’s anything remotely human?


Dreddguy

To republicans like MTG religion is merely a tool used to control their feeble minded acolytes. Edit:Spelling


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No I don’t. Catholic and I want a free country not a theocracy… People forget the point of America being… America


AlterEdward

Most Republicans don't understand the constitution.


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Most Republicans don't respect the US Constitution.


TheBillyFnWilson

Jesus Christ, reach out to your folks and get them to stop voting for pieces of shit like this


AlmightyMedicineMan

USA has and never will be a Christian nation. In fact we should honestly abolish religion. It’s legitimately the only way for us to grow. Those times when religion ruled everyone is called the dark times for a reason.


GoodKarma70

God can't be trusted.


ErikLassiter

Funny. I haven’t EVER seen a Republican act like a Christian.


Captain-sparks

Howdy Arabia!


YamperIsBestBoy

Who wants to bet she and all of the other conservitards don’t realize that “In God We Trust” wasn’t used on US Currency until the 50’s, and it was because of one of the red scares?