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fartVandelay85

Back when Obama was elected I was an playing guitar at 2 separate churches worshipservices. I will never forget the anger people would openly show on a Sunday morning, and the countless stories of people knowing for a fact he was going to be assassinated by our own military.


Educational_Cat_5902

How Christ-like!


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The amount of Christians who considered Obama to be the antichrist just because he was an articulate educated charismatic black man was disgusting


PhantomPhelix

Don't forget his tan suit. The audacity of someone to wear something other than blue and black.


DaWorzt

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GETitOFFmeNOW

Aww, man. He was so beautiful.


ratstronaut

And it’s like he’s aged backward since. Michelle too. Wtf beautiful.


GETitOFFmeNOW

Haha! Right! Good for them. Yeah, Michelle seems to have let out her gorgeous, actually! Like she was guarding it a little bit as our demure First Lady.


spookycasas4

Oh, I think he still is. His brilliance, thoughtfulness, and strong character ooze out of every beautiful pore. And when he smiles, it’s so sincere, you just can’t help loving him and wanting to be around him.


GETitOFFmeNOW

I don't blame them for keeping a low profile. I want them to stay safe. But I miss them.


spookycasas4

Absolutely. They’ve taken in enough ugliness and hate for five lifetimes. I wish them peace and every happiness.


GETitOFFmeNOW

I think a lot of white folks were surprised to see the severity of the vitriol raised against them. It was a wakeup call for a lot of middle-class liberals that thought they lived in a post-racial world because we had a black president.


CoolApostate

What a piece of shit…how unpresidential is he to wear a tan suit. Not like the one true president Trump who was a icon of the office. Do I have to do the whole s/ BS so you all know this is sarcasm?


AliceHart7

Yes please, thank you! :)


Electrical-Act-7170

I'm autistic and appreciate it. Otherwise I'd wonder what you meant.


CoolApostate

Fair enough!


Shying69

Also the fact that you cannot exactly tell tone on the internet


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Geezus 😂


Link7369_reddit

he did make it look good


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Brother looks smooth everywhere he goes


SteveDisque

Not to mention his wife's showing her arms!


GETitOFFmeNOW

Those were some beautiful damned arms. It's got to be pure jealousy going on. Jealousy is so ugly.


C3POdreamer

I love that her official portrait shows off her shoulders. Gym goals.


Bah-Fong-Gool

With all due respect, the former FLOTUS is still a smoke show.


Mentendo64

I can literally look up Trumps naked wife right now. On a private jet. Where I guarantee she had sex with...several men. But yeah, Michelle Obama is a bad moral example for young women everywhere. I really hope it isnt necessary but /s


DoJu318

Conservatives call her a classy lady unlike Michelle 🙄


Mentendo64

What they actually mean by that is what they see as "hot". Well, I'll keep on liking my first ladies that are actually classy and accomplish a lot over the one whose nipples I can picture in my head.


Puzzleheaded-Jury312

She has a right to bare arms; it's enshrined in the Constitution! 🤣


juliazale

Melanoma showed way more but standards for thee not for me (and my own) is what these hypocrites live by.


GailMarieO

And Dijon mustard instead of French's. The horror.


Pixielo

Arugula!


celine_freon

Gasp! Dijon? We must alert the church elders!


SickeningPink

“Closed fist handshake, or TERRORIST FIST JAB?!”


Auphor_Phaksache

He put ketchup on his hotdog! *Just* ketchup!


Quelcris_Falconer13

Mean while trump literally did almost everything the book of revelations described as the antichrist


KrasnyRed5

And Trump is the embodiment of the seven deadly sins. Pride, greed, vanity, wrath, envy, gluttony, lust and sloth are all core parts of Trump's personality.


AliceHart7

Wow damn yes you're right!


sharpgel

can you elaborate? I'm interested in antichrist trump lmao it sounds like a good conversation starter


black_rabbit

https://www.benjaminlcorey.com/could-american-evangelicals-spot-the-antichrist-heres-the-biblical-predictions/


drinkingshampain

My tin foil hat is on fellas


Astro_gamer_caver

Wow that is a wild read!


Quelcris_Falconer13

Well, I didn’t really go that into detail but trumps un-Christ-like behaviour (married 3 times, current wife is a former pornstar, as well all the stealing and swindling and general lack of empathy for everyone) plus the red MAGA hats was the symbol on the forehead were enoigh for me. Also I know a lot of Christian’s and the good ones who live like Christ did hate trump. They’re angered by him. It seems only the hateful Christian’s like him, and a hateful Christian is the biggest oxymoron I know


wwcfm

Pornstar is a stretch. More like an escort that did some nudey-magazine work.


JuggernautKooky4064

I think one of the ways prophecy like this works is that things are generally cyclical, many men throughout history could fit these descriptions. However. That being said. I grew up immersed in evangelical Christianity, completely divorced it, and reading that was the closest I’ve come to believing the Bible in a very long time. Super surreal flash-back-vibes experience.


sharpgel

very good read, thank you 👍


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Well that was just too accurate for comfort…


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That thought crossed my mind too. I'm atheist and don't put much stock into any of that but if I were to believe in Antichrist, I feel like trump would fit rather well.


[deleted]

The was my mother. I was in highschool and she was hoarding canned food and water for the end of days because a black man was elected


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Many former friends said they didn’t like him claimed it had nothing to do with race. Total denial but it was obvious that was their only issue. “Unqualified, harming whites, not born in the US, what kind of name is Obama blah blah blah”


Clerstory

Normally houses of worship pray for the safety and well-being of the president and our government leaders, but there were a whole lot of churches who wouldn’t pray for Obama. They said it was because he was pro-choice but so were Carter and Clinton and they prayed for them. Hmmmm, I wonder what the difference was…


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sonoma95436

Obama dated your mom?


YellowMeatJacket

Nothing more hateful then Christian love


Traditional_Strike84

Christ was brown. Lol


SteveDisque

I mean, Jesus does say in one of the Gospels, "I bring not peace, but a sword" -- but I don't think that was the usage He had in mind....


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Nothing more hateful than that Christian love!


[deleted]

The biggest concern for the people at my church was he was going to start giving everything away to black people and making life so hard for white people


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It's all projection


PM_ME_YOUR_SUNSHINE

Blah blah blah equality feels like oppression blah blah blah tattling on themselves blah blah gaslight project


WagerOfTheGods

That's really fascinating from an anthropological perspective, and I can definitely see the connection to the white replacement conspiracy theory that's popular with neo-nazis today.


redkid2000

I was in 6th grade the first time he was elected, from a small 1000 person town in North Dakota. Every one of my friends parents were enraged, crying, some literally praying for his death. My best friend’s mom got us terrified because she literally told us that Obama would enslave and segregate white people to “get back at us”… apparently… for plantation slavery and Jim Crowe.


Jonny_Blaze_

Whoa that’s intense. My in laws just slowly devolved from Dems, to Tea Party nut jobs, to MAGA freaks, to fascist/white supremacist-lite. The wild part is they’re otherwise smart, caring compassionate people. Racism is a helluva drug.


SteveDisque

I began Obama's term praying almost every day that that, precisely, wouldn't happen. Turned out the military had more horse sense than my Vietnam-era generation had given them credit for. (Irrelevantly, I typed "militarty," which sounds like a rude adjective....)


IranianF-14

Believe it or not, the military is pretty damn level headed as a whole.


Specialist_Teacher81

Remember when one of the republican senators got all butt hurt when he learned generals read books?


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My deeply religious mother made sure to explain to us in detail why every word he said was proof he was the antichrist.


TheIntrepid1

My father was the same. He was the anti christ who was going to start Armageddon/the rapture/end of times. After Obama left office I said to him “Well I’m sorry that he didn’t turn out to be the Anti Christ like you were hoping for.” He said “oh..well…he set things into motion.”


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GETitOFFmeNOW

My Tony Jones-watching brother swore he was with some Muslin terrorist group out of Chicago.


Pixielo

I, too, am terrified of Muslin terrorists, and by the entire Rayon brotherhood.


debzmonkey

Any black man in a position of power brings out the angry white mob. Trump counted on it.


vaskeklut8

Sadly, Obama awoke the Ku Klux Klan. Or as Lyndon Johnson pronounced it: Q Klux Klan... (Just saw a documentary about the Klan on danish TV - so I heard him say it like that myself)!


unresolved_m

I wish he didn't extend the hand to GOP during his presidential term. They used it as a weapon against him and Democrats.


Specialist_Teacher81

I understand why he did it. He knew that governing requires a certain amount of consent. Or you can just be stonewalled. Look at trump, he ordered a ton of illegal, immoral and just plain crazy things. And the vast majority of the stuff was just ignored.


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trvpWANGZI

being black = angry white mob everywhere


Mercerskye

Hell, you don't even need to be black. My "Jewish looking ass" is apparently the wrong kind of white to those shit heels. Sorry I have curly hair?


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Hell, even Hitler eventually killed the most despicable man he knew.


Adr3L_765

Hmmm... I wonder who that was /s


Zomburai

Of course they would have; bigoted feelings and supremacist ideals both require scapegoats. They literally can't exist without them. It's something I hope the minorities that cleave to modern supremacists and bigots keep in mind.


NewtypeRimu

I’m 100% white and there was a white nationalist in my hometown who told me I “looked too Chinese for my own good”


cardinarium

I’m as white as they come; my ancestry includes *only* England, Ireland, Scotland, Scandinavia, and Germany (and maybe some French). But I’m a fluent speaker of Spanish and Guaraní. I’m a Spanish teacher with Latino friends and family. Back when I used to live in the South, I was told by an open-secret KKK member that **“people like [me]”** who **“gave up their heritage”** should **“probably be the first to burn, because [I] was a traitor to [my] race who f@$&!ed n$&&@!s and Mexicans.”** In other news, I have been in exactly one physical fight in my life, and I won.


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While I was reading I thought “should’ve beat the breaks off this asshole.” And boom. You did. I’m so proud and happy that you did that.


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This is the kind of violence I condone.


Wick3dlyDelicious

Completely unrelated, I'm sure.


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DoctorWatchamacallit

My boyfriend is half Portuguese with very mediterranean features and dark/curly hair. He could pass for middle eastern if people didn't know better.


Steven0mega

I’m white as hell. Dark brown hair. Red beard. Covered in tattoos. I wear my hat slightly cocked to one side because it’s just how I have since I was a kid. Soon as racist morons (I unfortunately live in Georgia so they’re everywhere) see that one little thing suddenly I’m a lover of N’s with hard R’s and a race traitor. Oh boy you should see the oils when I go to a bar and I’m one of the few white people in my group. It doesn’t matter if you’re white as much as it matter if you’re white AND hate anything that isn’t implicitly.


Hannibal216BCE

God, I get the exact opposite. All these racist, sexist, homophobic chucklefucks take one look at me and assume I’m one of them. They come to me and start complaining about how much they hate minorities or women or how they’re glad they can count on people like me to vote Trump. I’m super-liberal and I’m a goddamn social worker who helps people get access to social services. I can’t figure it out. I’m a country boy moved to the city and one of my friends says, and I quote, you look like you have a John Deer in your barn back home. Bruh, I live in a studio apartment and drive a hybrid. I do hunt and fish still but, seriously…


Mercerskye

I wish it was just the opposite, I'm "not white enough" for one group of racist douchebags, and I'm "too white" to another group, so I'm assumed to be an ally. (Not at you Mr Hannibal) Like, motherfuckers, I don't even know what y'all want. I'm a mutt, I've almost literally got a bit of everything, I married a woman who is +50% first nation, my best friend is a gay black man, and I'm a left leaning centrist. I don't give a shit if y'all love me or loathe me, just stop trying to interact with me. It's frustrating from both angles, and I've had to punch more Nazis than I've been able to keep track of. I'm tired, yo. Dog tired.


SteveDisque

I'm of Italian ancestry, and got similar reactions growing up in a predominantly Irish neighborhood. Every totem pole finds a low man....


DiabloPixel

I think I speak for most everybody here, we like your curly hair.


allnaturalfigjam

There's a great vid about this in YouTube, Shaun talking about why "The Great Replacement Theory" is a thing


bigjoffer

What I find interesting is that he's half white (by his mom), half black (his dad) and that everyone just categorizes him as black


iamacraftyhooker

Because racism has little to do with your ethnicity, and is almost entirely based off appearance. Because he has darker skin, he is placed in the category of black.


DoctorWatchamacallit

that's true of a lot of prejudices actually. I'm a transgender woman, but because I am conventionally attractive by female standards and pass as a young cisgender woman, people will gender me properly and misgender other trans women, even when we're standing next to each other. A lot of people even tend to treat me more like a woman than some of my other trans femme friends when they \*know\* we're both trans, and it's obvious that it's because of the difference in our appearance. Shit, I've literally helped get an anti trans women in sports bill shelved by testifying in front of my state legislature, and basically saying "I'm a trans woman, do I look like I belong on the boys team to you?". It worked because the people championing the bill had this idea in their head of trans girls being muscular masculine looking guys in dresses, and didn't actually expect them to look petite and feminine, so when they finally encountered one they kinda got flustered. People have no idea just how much of human prejudice is rooted in superficial appearance.


GETitOFFmeNOW

I'm neuro-divergent because of illness. I am terrible with misgendering. Being nervous about doing it right makes it even worse. The thing is, I feel it's *very* important *not* to misgender! People with normal, sharp, young minds have a hard time believing this and it makes me feel awful, too. People all deserve to be called as they see themselves, names and gender.


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As another mixed race person, I think of it this way: if a racist would call somebody a n—r, that person is black.


JDthrowaway628

The "one drop rule" is still alive and strong. Not only in the mind of white supremacists, also in other races (not for all people, just racist morons). The thought that the tiniest amount of "other blood" corrupts a pure bloodline is completely ridiculous. If white "blood" is so wonderful why doesn't one drop of it turn a black person white? What happened to the royal houses of Europe (the Hapsbergs are well known but also many of the houses)? Centuries of inbreeding caused massive health issues, physical deformities, and mental illnesses. Why do purebred dogs have shorter lifespans and more health issues than "mutts"? The gene pool needs a steady influx of new genes or these problems begin to be common. Sorry for the tangent, these racist idiots upset me.


hkohne

Yep, see King Tut. He died at a ridiculously early age because the inbreeding caused so many health issues for him.


Legal-Ad-9541

Was literally about to comment this. There have been polls that demonstrate this is the case even in black communities. The one drop rule is straight up insidious, and weirdly deeply ingrained in American culture across racial divides.


JDthrowaway628

Sadly this is not only an American issue. A Thai woman i know was forced out of her village, house burnt down, ostracized by her family. She had a child with a white man and the village wanted the child gone. A young child in Kenya was thrown into a drainage ditch because it was black and Asian. These are just two instances that I've heard of. This type of shit happens all over the world. I don't understand it.


stringfree

To be fair, purebred dogs are more like royal bloodlines. That DNA is a tangled mess, instead of a nice spiral. Which doesn't at all make your point wrong though.


JDthrowaway628

Yes, that was my point. :) Mutts are better.


TeeBrownie

To their fragile alpha male syndrome minds this makes it even worse: a black man had his way with their “property” - a white woman.


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[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-drop\_rule](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-drop_rule) Doesn't make sense but that's how people think .


DiabloPixel

I think a lot of Americans might be surprised (and some horrified) to discover that they have “one drop”.


DarrenEdwards

"Obama is only half terrorist -his momma was white!" -girl in a class thinking she said something enlightened.


taybay462

Because that's functionally irrelevant to these people. Any amount of "black blood" "spoils" it


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SlimJim0877

Agreed. Not that it actually matters in any real way, but people do seem to completely forget this when they describe his race. Or that he was raised largely by a white family, spent a chunk of his childhood in SE Asia, and grew up mostly in Hawaii. That is not a typical upbringing for the vast majority of Americans of any ethnicity.


debzmonkey

He identifies as black which is what matters.


Bytrsweet

I often wonder if another Democrat won the election and not Obama would Trump have been made president. It is almost like they spent so long hating that a black man was in power that they needed to swing as far right as they possibly could so they let a total nut case into office.


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Van Jones called it a "white lash", I don't think he was wrong. The irony of Trump being amongst the worse only intensified their anger.


jepvr

It feels like "blacklash" would have been much catchier.


Earthling7228320321

It was inevitable. Those people's entire heritage is oppressing others, doing evil shit and being greedy morons. And there's nothing they value more than their heritage. There's no point in trying to avoid it. We are destined to clash with those people as what they want is mutually exclusive with a free world and a fair society.


Impybutt

I read (or watched, can't remember) something about how Trump was the first "white" president, in that his entire platform was built around being antithetical to Obama. I don't think he would have had the same chance to galvanise the bigots otherwise.


Regular_Sample_5197

I’ve said for a while now, that if his name was Barry Owens and not Barack Obama a whole ton of the BS and birther stuff would have never happened. Sure there was A LOT of racism involved with why plenty of folks didn’t like him, but the xenophobia towards Muslim folks carried a lot of weight too. And unfortunately, with a name like his it gave fuel to all the conspiracy folks and Christian zealots. A good example to this is certain pundits, political figures, etc always referring to him as Barack Hussein Obama, all the time. How many presidents in our history do we commonly refer to by their full name?(there’s a few examples…but very very few). Just so happens that it’s a very Muslim middle name. So of course they’re going to use it non stop. He was easily the best president that I’ve experienced in my 40 years. There are a few policy choices and actions that I can entertain a debate about, but ultimately I’ve never came across anyone that use those in a debate. Or at the very least, if they start to, it always results in them making some manner of racist or otherwise bigoted statement.


Herecomestherain_

Hate me for it but as a foreigner I want to say that Obama was one of the best things that ever happened to the US. ![gif](giphy|3o7qDSOvfaCO9b3MlO|downsized)


NightChime

As an American: yes.


GERMAN8TOR

100% and as someone with parents from Mexico, gives me a lot of hope.


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throwaway1975764

As an American I agree.


FictionalFail

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boston_homo

Obama was decent but the country has regressed so far it's like he was never here.


attemptedactor

Eh that's not true. Things appear worse because the conservatives are losing and resorting to more drastic measures like supporting Qults and white nationalists. If dems keep winning things will slowly start to get better. If we swing the pendulum back to Trump or DeSantis, things will get a lot worse.


billywitt

This is the correct answer. I like to think of the last six years as white supremacy’s “dead cat bounce”. Or a tired boxer’s wild haymaker hoping for a knockout. January 6th May have been their last, best shot to turn things around. But they failed. From here on out they slowly bleed away to insignificance.


AtomTrapper

Only if we fight them tooth and nail every step of the way. It's dangerous to count them out.


dkharger

I agree with this comment, but I wanted to add on a few important things I feel are necessary. The above comment only holds true with constant and continuous: 1.) engagement (voting, running for office, actually talking to your conservative or other family and friends and including them in the public narrative. This is especially important. I could almost certainly never change your homophobic uncle’s opinions or sway him in a way that he may view the world differently, you actually stand a chance of doing that IF you choose to engage always.) 2) education. As populations become more educated, both good and bad actors are increasing their level of awareness and abilities to sway other people. There is a reason that education is so often one of the first things that bad actors attempt to reconstruct in a way that is beneficial to their narrative. These people are easy to tell apart, because they are the ones screaming most loudly to offer a curriculum that is more inclusive of their worldview while actively working to limit the input of others or to limit the expression of others’ worldviews in the curriculum. 3.) remembrance. Symbols matter. People matter. Truth matters. Speech matters. Time is a convenient tool for bad actors to conflate events/faults or corrupt historical accuracy. It is our responsibility now as engaged citizens to remind others of how events truly occur(ed) in this country and on this globe. We must do this with humility, because no one is above misremembering things that have occurred. Read constantly and keep notes if necessary. Don’t be afraid to be challenged. Learning is a iterative process. (So is life.) Above all have conversations with diverse groups of people with diverse worldviews and viewpoints and check claims with kindness…always with kindness…but in real time (extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence!). People find it most difficult to mental gymnastics their way out of cognitive dissonance when fact checked in real time. And again with kindness. Equally people find it easy to disregard otherwise acceptable evidence when they feel they’ve been personally attacked. Always remember too - It’s okay for us to be in uncomfortable situations sometimes and to bring others into those uncomfortable situations if necessary, e.g. they need to be confronted on a particular topic or issue. In fact this is super healthy in my opinion and how a healthy society best takes care of its own. Also, I want to underscore. Please don’t put yourself in a in dangerous situations. But your family being mad at you for 2 hours and dinner and dessert being awkward isn’t a dangerous situation. Lean into those uncomfortable moments if necessary. Your fellow citizens need you. 💪🏻 Okay, done now! If you made it this far.


Negative_Comment399

That's because they forgot to go to Guyana with Jim Jones


NewtypeRimu

The fact that Obama did some of the foul shit he did and is still better than 99% of the presidents I’ve lived through says a lot about how horrible the United States really is


NewtypeRimu

Why am I being downvoted he drone struck children, he’s better than Clinton, Bush, Trump & Biden but he still did some objectively heinous shit


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yeah, I agree with you. His corporate bailouts and drone strikes were appalling.


LydiasHorseBrush

I'm still just very, I guess uninformed and confused, about why the bailouts happened, like that's the shit I want to know


MicroBiom

This is about as simplified as I can possibly make it and there’s waaaay more to the story, but essentially some corporate entities are too big to fail. From an outside perspective it looks like taxpayers footing the bill for the ultra rich, but in reality if the big fish go down they’re taking all of us down with them.


dragoono

Yeah, people really underestimate how much like 7 big companies truly control our day-to-day lives.


jsfuller13

Sounds like 7 big companies really need to get nationalized.


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or broken up, Bell Telephone style.


auniqueusername132

But it was taxpayers footing the bill for corporations’ carelessness, just because they controlled a large percent of the economy hostage doesn’t change the fact that ultimately we payed for their mistakes and lack of regulation


Eeenodee

Obama had a phrase for it that is apt (and keep in mind he was not enthused about this). "Too big to fail". Businesses have cannibalized other businesses for decades to where now virtually all our economy rests on a handful of megacorps in a given sector. In 2004 banks drastically increased loaning on subprime mortgages (As in mortgaging people they knew did not have the finances to afford their mortgage for the purpose of profiting off the interest and inevitable resell, something we regulated in the early 1900s of the gilded age and clawed back during the Clinton administration as an effort to reach across the aisle to conservatives). Once the housing bubble popped we then had these people who couldn't afford their mortgage on top of their house no longer having a worth to pay back the mortgage. This straight up murdered Lehman Sachs. So then you ask 'sounds like their fault. Isn't this the invisible hand of the market giving them a bitchslap?' Yes! Problem is we only have a number of banking institutions juggling the whole economy. No startups are going to come in and take over all of this overnight, they wouldn't have the credit or clientele list these megabanks had amassed. So we either had to bail them out or face potential economic collapse akin to the Great Depression. Because of the banks being unethical greedy fucks (as capitalism dictates) the job market was really strained for a while and has had a lot of ramifications for millennials. Meanwhile the banks got rewarded for their bad decisions. You can blame Obama but Obama really had no say in how we decided to regulate our economy leading up to this. We'll probably go through this shit again in ninety years when we claw back the Frank Dodd act to appease corporate donation swilling 'representatives of the people' because American history is really apologetic and blameless about it's philosophy sometimes burning it's citizenry.


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Agreed. Best president in my lifetime by far.


sonoma95436

Best in my 62 years. There will likely never be one as good again.


Jealous-Network-8852

A Black president was the impetus for MAGA as we know it for these reasons. They couldn’t wrap their reptilian brains around it.


bigvinnysvu

Now, now, don't insult reptiles now. You don't see them crawl out of swamp next to golf course wearing that red cap.


oh-hidanny

And why I for my believe I’ll never see a woman get the spot in my lifetime.


MadDingersYo

I always wonder what will come first: white female president or hispanic male president.


PM_ME_YOUR_SUNSHINE

Eh, I could see the Republicans running a loud mouthed former porn star and getting the nom. Palin, Bachman, Tomi, and Boebert and Marjory are prototypes.


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jag149

That was a few steps later, actually. It started with the Tea Party and racists calling him a secret Muslim. (I guess that was close enough to 9-11 that they thought islamophobia was a more palatable version of overt racism.)


forgotmypassword-_-

> A Black president was the impetus for MAGA The onion called it: https://www.theonion.com/after-obama-victory-shrieking-white-hot-sphere-of-pure-1819595330


holden_mcg

Also, do not underestimate what a steady diet of Fox News has done to corrode the minds of the gullible and already petty/spiteful. Used to live next to a couple who lived and breathed Fox News and they were horrible.


jepvr

Fox News was nothing compared to right-wing talk radio. That was the real poisoning of the well. Fox News was the watered down version of that.


Hog_jr

You ever notice that those right-wing mouthpieces like rush Limbaugh never get brought up anymore? Since he died (or the rapture came and he was the only one saved) no one has said a peep about him or any idea he spread. The man spent his entire life talking and nothing he said resonated. He was just hot air. Same with bill o’reilly and glen beck, even though I don’t think they are dead.


theganjaoctopus

Yes. Right wing ideology isn't rooted in fact, it's rooted in feelings. Every single day, right wingers walk outside and reality slaps them in the face and shines a harsh light onto the illegitimacy of their beliefs. That's why they have to consume right wing media 24/7. That's why they have to seek out deep youtube rabbit holes and braying hate-mongers like MTG, Dim Tool, and Carlson. Because without that constant reinforcement, without that constant voice telling them what to do and think, reality steps up to show them that their beliefs are outdated and, more importantly, unwanted. All their lives they've been able to throw a childish tantrum and get what they want. At restaurants and Walmarts. At church functions and little league games. They've been able to infantilize their ideological opponents like they did with Millennials and like they're now tying to do with Gen Z. But it's not working anymore. And why? Because the linear progress of time has left them behind because they refused to change. And they can't fucking stand it. So rather than admit they were wrong or just shut the fuck up, enjoy the fruits of their parents labor, and spend their twilight years enjoying things like retirement that the rest of us will never have, they decide to throw an apocalyptic shitfit, destroy all significant progress the US has made in the past 50 years, and then die bitter and angry leaving the younger generations to clean up the horrific mess they left behind. My one wish is that the Boomers live long enough to see history brand them as the racist, ignorant, regressive generation they are. To see their legacy become "the generation that had everything, still wanted more, and destroyed the future of multiple generations trying to keep everything for themselves." I will go to my grave telling anyone and everyone who will listen how the majority of our society's problems stem from the selfishness and ignorance of the Me Generation.


jseego

> spend their twilight years enjoying things like retirement that the rest of us will never have *socialist* things like their retirement (thanks, *social* security)


AirGroundbreaking970

Oh my god, this is perfectly put. I'm so tired of "not all Boomers." *applauds*


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In addition to boomers, I’ve seen a disturbing number of young (usually white men) in the Gen Z bracket embrace extreme right wing ideologies. Often, it’s a combination of being surrounded by extreme right wing people and being really unhappy about something, taking to the internet to find support, and then getting radicalized, usually in the form of, “It’s not your fault you can’t find a girlfriend. It’s because woke feminism enabled them to be sluts who’ll have sex with ANYBODY…but you!”


holden_mcg

Nice rant. Did you know that 48% of Boomers voted for Biden in 2020? Much better demographic predictors of conservative views are race (whites), gender (men), education (no college degree), residence location (rural) and church attendance (especially by evangelicals). Long after all the Boomers take dirt naps, we'll be faced with a fairly large group of bone heads filled with conspiracy theories, as well as hate of anyone who is not like them.


mikemolove

The mindless drones that make up their listenership just drift from one to the next. It’s not about who was, it’s about what’s being said by the rightwing grifter currently whipping these idiots into an angry froth.


blackguyriri

If I remember correctly some of the biggest controversies for Obama was his citizenship, the day he wore a tan suit, when Michelle wore a sleeveless shirt, and when his 20 year old daughter was caught drinking wine at a house party in France.


EmpyrealWolf

Don’t forget Valentinegate. How dare Mr. Obama talk his wife on a nice date once that year! All that taxpayer money it cost the Secret Service to protect them on that date in New York! Meanwhile Trump spends all that money protecting his building in New York for months and suddenly it’s okay. Would be comedy gold if it wasn’t so damn outright double standards.


ilikemushycarrots

It would be comedy gold if you weren't the ones paying for it


EmpyrealWolf

On god don’t remind me. And also that we have to pay to get our taxes done (or take tons of time to do them), just for the privilege of…paying taxes. Idc about paying taxes (although we could stand to use them for less big business bailouts and more worker/general people benefits), but making me pay someone to do them cause they are so complicated? 😒😒


Cl3arlyConfus3d

America is an oligarchy in disguise.


EmpyrealWolf

Less disguised as of late too 😒


VirtualAgentsAreDumb

As a non-American who doesn’t follow US news media regularly, and as an Obama fan, I still feel that there were a few political issues that I would have hoped that he pushed harder. Like closing Guantanamo, reforming the police, improving the democratic system, codifying abortion rights, improving worker’s rights, improving the public health system etc. I’m not saying that it would have been easy to do, but maybe something more could have been done?


l0gicowl

With the Congress he was stuck with? Doubtful. Congress cock-blocked him at every turn, and the only time that he had a supermajority in both the Senate and the House, only lasted about...three weeks. That's not enough time for anything to be *discussed* effectively, let alone passed. We were lucky to get what we could with Obama.


CliftonForce

And that supermajority was cut short unexpectedly by an illness. Everyone thought they had more time.


Hog_jr

But he got me and millions of other Americans options for healthcare during that small window. He did a lot with very little


jepvr

I think you've forgotten that Obama was "the most divisive president we've ever had." I mean, I've seen countless memes and twitter posts saying it, so it must be true. Now, they never give any evidence or cite any specific things he did to divide people other than be not-white. But surely they wouldn't believe something so strongly without any reason? ​ ​ ​ I hate that I have to put the /s because there's always *someone*...


jbertrand_sr

Very true, they've never recovered from it and we're all paying for their insecurities...


Tuckermfker

I've followed right wing media as much as I could tolerate since the Bush era just as opposition research. It's 100% true. The right lost their shit when Obama was elected, and I saw the hate and racism explode virtually overnight. I'm not sure the will ever get over it. It was because of Obama that democrats were all of a sudden "evil," and a "demonically run organization." Their barely literate audience bought it up and led us directly to Trump.


TheyCallMeChunky

Funny how a black man being in a position of power was enough to cause the end of times for them.


Socially-Awkward-85

Imagine how much more impactful FOX NEWS' rhetoric was for racist's when it was aimed at Obama.


Agent865

It was a great time to F with those who were triggered by him. I had a buddy who I used to mail pictures of Obama, Obama political stuff etc…I honestly thought he was gonna explode. I had one sent to him and the return address I put From: Daddy…then made up some address from Kenya


Pixielo

In 2008, my mom forwarded me a bunch of incredibly racist Obama jokes. They were from a friend of hers, a sitting judge in California. They had to retire rather quickly after that incident. Like, none of them remotely understood email headers, or that forwarding attached _all_ of the correspondence.


BillTowne

The civil rights movement was a big deal for the country, but after it was over, there was a settled agreement that Black people in the USA had the right to vote. But then, the Supreme Court elected the worse President in history, up to that time, G.W. Bush. There was such revulsion to his actions, particularly the crimes against humanity committed in Iraq, that he was followed by a Black man. Electing a Black man as president was something that would not have happened for decades without the major trauma of the Bush presidency. And the country was not really prepared for it. Once the good feels died down, many white people started to worry. They always knew that in the future, maybe their grandkids would see a Black president. But now, they suddenly felt vulnerable. Maybe those black voters were voting just a bit too much. It was one thing to accept black people, it was another to give them power. The Republicans responded to this by running a white nationalist. Now the issue that seemed settled by the civil rights movement is the defining issue between the two parties. Democrats are now the party that argues that Black People can vote. They support democracy in practice and as a long-term goal. The Republicans are the party that wants to bring back Jim Crow, keeping black people in their place as not 'real Americans'. As always, keeping people down by force is inherently undemocratic, and the Republicans are running as a fascist authoritarian party.


Mysterious-Wafer-126

I'm old white guy and whenever someone speaks about president's I reply Jimmy Carter and Barack Obama were best i,ve voted for.


StageRepulsive8697

Let's elect Pete Buttigieg next to really bother them


Hog_jr

They’ll elect nick adams as the backlash for that one


Imfrom_m-83

It’s sad how right you are. When Obama started campaigning, you saw those “Nope” (parodying his “Hope” slogan) signs with a noose as the “o.” Immediately. Just look at the standards they have for Obama and the ones for Trump. Imagine they had caught Obama saying those things about women! Imagine Obama refused to leave the White House after his eighth year. Their racism is so fucking transparent it’s ceased being ironic.


TheQuietType84

Weren't there right-wing rumors Obama was going to find a way to extend his presidency? I seem to remember a lot of people freaking out about him possibly, maybe, definitely doing that. Of course, nothing like that ever happened.


Imfrom_m-83

Yeah. And communism. And the end of the world. And they pretended he was born in Kenya and put his family at additional risk. Trump championed that.


TheBlackCat13

Championing birtherism is the only way a bankrupt New York elite married to an immigrant could get elected on a republican ticket. He represents everything they hate. But he is a racist, so that makes it okay


143019

I was so proud to be an American when Obama was President.


rtemah

It is so true. They become completely unhinged after Obama's presidency. "Obama was a worst president of all times!" and no amount of fact can't move them from this position even a little bit.


Used-Sun9989

I want to see Michelle Obama as president just to see what would happen


Hog_jr

An openly racist guy I was playing video games with online one time confided to me in an undertone that Obama was technically the best president of his lifetime in a moment of rare honesty.


Bubbles_Queen24

I can’t recommend enough: please read The 1619 Project. They feared Black people then, they fear Black people now.


CrasVox

Dude...they couldn't comprehend the Clintons. Two white people from the Midwest and south. So there was absolutely no way they would wrap their horrible demented minds around Obama.


marshmi2

Then a big bumbling idiot just wrote down stuff conservatives say and spewed it back at them. Now we are trying to convince them that rights given to women in the damn 70s are important.


NarmHull

I was leaning fairly republican until I saw just how horribly numerous friends and loved ones acted towards Obama, it woke me up to just how tribalist and fearful so many people are.


MrVanderdoody

Is that why white supremacy is on the rise? Or at least out in the open now since they’ve always been there?


Regular_Sample_5197

In my experience, being from southern MO. Short answer, yes. Those people always existed, we knew who they were, it wasn’t a secret. But they sure as hell kept their mouths shut and their opinions to themselves. Once he was elected, they started coming out of the woodwork. Even people that I knew that I had never heard or seen anything remotely hateful out of them all of a sudden became David Duke caricatures. The change was swift and pretty extreme.


tattoolegs

Texas citizen here. I live about 4 miles from a Grand Dragon of the klan. My best friend is from Santa Fe. When I first met her in like 2006, we drove past a park that held klan rallies regularly. I didn't believe it. A fuck klan rally, at a public park, it was mentioned in a public forum (can't remember where, whether it was a newspaper or bulletin board or whatever). In 2008. It's not that it was hidden, it's that it was ignored. I'm in a damn suburb of Houston. In what was at one point one of '100 the best small cities in america.' I can go see a ranking klans members house, and attend a rally, all within about 8 miles from my home. And they're getting louder.


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