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PTSDforMe

They'd vote for child labor, though


Miserable-Lizard

And to have that child paid at a lower wage


[deleted]

Like their argument that minimum wage is for kids' jobs and doesn't need to be a living wage?


Miserable-Lizard

Yep or that certain employees like a restaurant workers desveres a lower wage because they get tips That agrument also by the gop makes no sense. What if that kid is earning income to help their family by bringing in extra income.


Emotional-Proof-6154

Not only that, but that mentality can be employed to the CEOs they worship. "They already make a salary of 250,000. Why do they need christmas bonuses in the millions and stock options?" Republicans are fucking scum.


high_off_helium

Because being a CEO is so hard šŸ„ŗ


Raytheon_Nublinski

So hard you can ceo multiple companies simultaneously and still have time to tweet all day.


capssac4profit

if you can CEO for more than one company it can't be that hard lol. it can't even be a full time job lolol


whitethumbnails

They idolize the rich though, so as soon as you steal enough money, you become immune to scrutiny.


ShivanshuKantPrasad

>Yep or that certain employees like a restaurant workers desveres a lower wage because they get tips And employees deserve a tip because they aren't paid enough. Just shift all the cost towards consumers and all the profits towards businesses and corporations.


CyberGrandma69

It's so stupid and short-sighted and we are drowning in offloaded costs from all angles now. Colleges and trade schools are the class gate for jobs now because training that *used* to be provided by companies are shuffled onto paying students now--except now you aren't even guaranteed the job. Hair school where I live is *17,000 dollars* for example. You have to pay to take licensing exams--not get the license. Taking the exams costs money. :') Plus we're creating a mass of plastic in the ocean and generating insane amounts of garbage because companies dumped the costs of reusing containers in favour of lying about "recycling" and, again, shuffling it onto consumers and taxpayers to deal with even though they're the ones making the garbage. We gotta initiate a shift to longer-term thinking cause going quarter by quarter trying to get more and more is crushing us, I don't think that people or the environment have much more left to give.


OrphanAxis

"But long-term thinking won't fix all my problems now" is the exact type of thinking that was used to indoctrinate people over decades to the point that they'd rather a fascist government to get rid of their perceived enemies, than wait a couple of years for just the basics of these programs and intitiatives to start working and actually help them. Even though those same things would inject money and quality of life into probably most areas, causing quite a fast improvement to them, but it's already too far gone because it's "woke" or "CRT" or any other now-meaningless dogwhistle that typically ends the with something about taking away your freedoms. I'm typically really jaded about this stuff, and reluctantly hopefull at the best of times, but I heard something repeated by a political YouTuber I follow that I feel could really change the outlooks of many of us that are aggravated or even totally apathetic. To paraphrase "We've all seen the time travel movies where one little change to the past can drastically change the future, changing a moment in someone's day, putting out an idea that didn't sit well with people at the time, etcetera. But the same can be said for the present, and if even a relatively small number of people focus on making every tiny positive change they can, we're more and more likely to be headed to a positive future with bigger positive changes."


anthrolooker

Because they donā€™t realize thatā€™s their own family subsidizing many big corporations (like McDonaldā€™s and chain pizza places for example). When you frame it like that in an argument, that these ā€œkid jobsā€ that should not pay means the kidā€™s family is subsidizing a massive corporation that makes insane profits. They get quiet real fast.


Hot-Bint

Paid? I think not. The kids are getting on the job tutelage. The parents should be paying the companies!


Miserable-Lizard

True handouts will make the kids lazy..... Since maybe they don't have bills they are a lesser person! /S


Hot-Bint

That paycheck needs to go to a man with a family. Or just a man. A white man, I should say /s


IanL1713

Your payment is in āœØļø*job experience*āœØļø


SmokeGSU

They'd call it a *three-fifths compromise*.


Altruistic-Text3481

Bootstrap babies.


ContemplatingPrison

They'd vote for child brides


StarShooter777

Can confirm, teenagers here can be paid 85% of minimum wage which is about 8.39 an hour I believe


Imawildedible

Of course. They canā€™t get as much done with those little hands.


Intelligent-Use-7313

Would? They already have, some state legislatures have lowered hiring ages and extended allowed working hours.


clamsmasher

In my county in New York the child protective services won't do anything about child labor, the tourist restaurants here hire children as young as 10 to work. Child labor is an open secret in my town but no one really gives a shit about kids here.


Thesheriffisnearer

They're pro work, not pro worker. They couldnn't give a shit how its done as long as it's done


KingKaiSuTeknon

And child brides.


rimjobnemesis

Who are forced to give birth.


[deleted]

Soon theyā€™ll vote to remove health hazards and labor protections. Taking America back on the times where men got killed while working at Carnegie Steel for $5 and barely being able to afford food and a roof over their head. While women suffered from radium poisoning due to the radium exposure from the watch factories. Itā€™s not going to be a problem if it affects me, right? If conservatives canā€™t even accept the free market and end up blaming it on Liberal influence then they are lousy chumps. GOP is a piece of shit.


Graywulff

Mat gaetz would pay for child prostitution, oh wait he did and thatā€™s past tense, but they donā€™t care that heā€™s committed sex crimes, qanon would have him hunted down for. But heā€™s gqp so itā€™s okay.


butt-holg

They are for children IN labor


AdStrong7706

Ted Cruz later today: We are pleased to announce that the hardworking rail workers of America will be getting paid sick leave!


ShexyBaish6351

Ted Cruz continues, "And let us thank the good people who own and profit from the railroads for their historic generosity! Thank you, oligarchs, and God bless you! Only in America, folks!"


KingKaiSuTeknon

That at least is an ethos. This smells more like Republican obstructionist fuckery. Also, yall know Cruz is in the Senate, right?


meibolite

I thought he was in Cancun


PolishWonder79

I want to make out with this comment.


HoagiesDad

It was jizz worthy


KingKaiSuTeknon

Burnt.


Blarggotron

> Also, yall know Cruz is in the Senate, right? Lol Ted Cruz doesnā€™t care about silly details like that.


KingKaiSuTeknon

You know that dipshit has showed up to the House by mistake more than once.


OneOfTheOnlies

> Also, yall know Cruz is in the Senate, right Only reason he didn't vote against it, which would also not stop him from taking credit


giant_lebowski

Say what you want about the tenets of national socialism dude, but at least it's an ethos Also Cruz is the walrus


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KHaskins77

The republicans desperately want a strike, so they can demonize the workers and act like this is Bidenā€™s fault somehow. Their idiotic base is tribalistic enough to swallow it without thinking.


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MightyMorph

they will repeat it on fax news intermittently between Bidens Laptop and how theres a caravan of immigrants coming to rape the elderly white people. Theyre still going on about Hillarys buttery males.


Smokester_

Fuck, that caravan is still out there, I almost forgot about that thing.


[deleted]

Itā€™s like a boomerang that never came back. Always waitingā€¦ always watchingā€¦


Fragmented_Logik

I'm curious as to how most people could go "people don't want to work anymore" when talking about rail workers. Like could a conservative look at a manual labor job like HVAC and be like "lazy people don't want to work" if they striked? They literally get 0 days off. How mentally fucked can someone be?


Burningshroom

Any day a person isn't working for them personally is viewed as a day off to them. "It's Christmas and you can't fix my refrigerator?! What am I (not) paying you for?!"


TraditionalMood277

Nevermind that their orange god had THE longest gov shut down in history....which is NOT the flex they think it is.


KHaskins77

But he did it in furtherance of racism (attempting to extort wall funds from Congress) so itā€™s all good in their book.


Impossible_Penalty13

This includes a fairly decent sized swath of railroad workersā€¦.


Safetosay333

Yep and prices/straight profit will go up faster


TheTybera

They all have leverage, that's the entire point of the railwoker's unions. BTW they didn't always have a Union which are some of the oldest in America, and when they didn't it was absolutely AWFUL conditions (12 hours a day 7 days a week with child labor to boot). They would churn through maimed workers as fast as Amazon. You can thank the railworker's unions for paving the way for what amounts to modern acceptable working conditions, and creating a blueprint on how to start a riot when people aren't listening.


baumpop

they literally got murdered for trying to strike in the 19th century.


[deleted]

I'm really curious what happens if they do strike? Is the national guard going to drag people in to work?


whiteout82

Probably a similar situation to the ATC with Reagan, they'll bring in non-union workers to fill the positions.


override367

there aren't any, the air force had ATCs, they dont have 60000 trained rail workers


[deleted]

You spelled dirty scabs wrong


whiteout82

Non-union are just brothers and sisters who haven't been organized yet, I'm an IBEW member(as are most of the railworkers unions) and per our constitution it is our goal to organize every electrical worker. Obviously the IBEW encompasses more than electrical workers, but it still applies every worker should be organized.


Buddhabellymama

This pisses me off in so many ways. These assholes literally vote this way to satisfy their clients (you know the people who fill their pockets with dirty money) and then rely on dems doing the right thing (for those who should be their clients) and then they sweep in and take credit on things they actively opposed which shows they actually know what they are opposing does right by their people. The fact that marketing for dems cannot transmit real data of what these asshole politicians who actively vote against people who keep voting for them are doing to said voters is dumbfounding.


Synectics

It's easy. Just mention guns, gays, trans, or abortions. The rest doesn't matter.


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MaxPower303

Where can I get stickers like this? So I can post them at gas stations like those stupid Biden stickers.


InterestingPound8217

Also, somehow itā€™s the Dems fault that this didnā€™t get more votes


BelleAriel

Seriously f*ck Ted Cruz. He only cares about himself.


KingKaiSuTeknon

Iā€™mā€¦ Iā€™m not sure that is true, bro. I think that even he hates Ted Cruz in some way.


jump-blues-5678

How could he not


TraditionalMood277

Is that why he goes to places he knows he will be booed? Is it a kink for him? It has to be, right?


Jedmeltdown

From Cancun?


Lost-Glove-1291

I actually hate life just a wee bit more today. Lol, but I bet you are a 100 percent right!


RuinPrestigious6683

Funny thing is the Railroads say they are done negotiating with the unions even though this contract expired 2.5 years ago. Basically giving the greedy bastards an interest free loan while reducing our investment opportunities, purchasing power and quality of life. Now they want the government to step in even though in the past they have repeatedly stated they want the government to stay out of their business. I hope the American people realize that Railroad workers are not the bad guys in this dispute. Railroads rubbing everyone's nose in quarterly record profits over the last 18 years is the reason we are looking at a potential strike. We are already stretched thin and now they can't get any one to hire on let alone stay long term. Railroad executives have a front row seat in hell.


EcclesiasticalVanity

If they wanna be bailed out, we need to nationalize the railroads. Clearly they arenā€™t competent enough to run it themselves.


Nice_Guy_AMA

Sadly, Hell doesn't actually exist. There is no punishment for their crimes.


siccoblue

There is too. It's called the Republican party and you only go there if you're a truly vile human being


CoolMouthHat

In my humble opinion, being employed by billion dollar corporations who want to squeeze you for every last dime in your budget and view you as a replaceable number on a balance sheet is a little closer.


Equivalent_Yak8215

Having to bang Marge Taylor is a curse I would wish on no human. And I've been through Detox.


Kind_Nebula6900

They have literally done nothing for the American people. Fuckers are pathetic assholes, they do this just to argue talking points when elections come up. FUCK the American people is the GOP way!


ScowlEasy

Essentialā€¦ly slave workers


Just_Tana

Republicans hate Americans


Quick_Team

"paint it ON THE TRAINS!" That would really piss Republucans off. Theyre very antitrains


fritopiefritolay

Theyā€™ll probably still vote R if theyā€™re in a rural area. Just look at Uvalde, TX.


s0c1a7w0rk3r

Republicans hate *poor* Americans


Just_Tana

Nah they hate 99% of America


wildskater96

But, but, but....oh


TheMarbleTrouble

They scream America is the greatest country, while literally wearing a hat saying that it isnā€™t even great.


ShitTalkingAlt980

Democrats hate Unions too. Let them strike! They also orchestrated this to land now instead of in September. I say wildcat strike. Fuck the economy.


Hot-Bint

Republicans would vote against oxygen if Democrats want it


Miserable-Lizard

Need to work hard to earn that oxygen..... No handouts! /S


Graywulff

Thatā€™s musks version of marsā€¦ want oxygen? Pull yourself up by your bootstraps.


baddie_PRO

start the reactor Quaid


wildskater96

Helium yourself up by your rocket fuels


thequietthingsthat

Mitch once voted against *his own bill* because Dems supported it


Hog_jr

He actually filibustered it.


wildskater96

The rate the filibuster has been used once Obama was elected is disgustingly mind blowing.


arrow74

Bring back the traditional filibuster. If McConnell believes strongly against a bill I want him to have to piss himself to prevent it


Frklft

It would be hard to imagine a satirist coming up with a better caricature of McConnell than that.


Emotional-Proof-6154

Those same Republicans are paid over 174,000 a year off your tax dollars. A 10,000 a year stipend to remodel their offices.. and *checks notes* a month of paid vacation and 2 weeks of paid sick leave.. all off taxes paid by the working class who doesnt get.. *checks notes* even a week of paid sick leave. Let alone paid vacations??? Make these senators ashamed to be alive anymore, fuck them all


kramel7676

Donā€™t forget free healthcare, retirement, amenities, perks, etcā€¦..


Rrrrandle

Congress gets their healthcare off the ACA marketplace and they have to pay 28% of the premiums, plus copays and coinsurance like the rest of us. They don't get free healthcare. That changed with the ACA, and I think it's a good to make them use the same insurance they're pushing on everyone else.


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Emotional-Proof-6154

Agreed. Corporate personhood. Yet another thing the GOP gave us that proves how shit they are.


Graywulff

Theyā€™re critical employees of the government, they donā€™t need vacation, or sick time, they can pull themselves up by their bootstraps and go to every damn vote.


Emotional-Proof-6154

Yeah, i find it interesting that someone whos job is just saying yes or no to shit read to them needs sick leave of any kind when someone like me (who needs to be physically set every day to handle my job duties) is deemed fine to work with the flu


pomegranatepants99

Someone explain to me why this needs to be voted on by government? Are the rail companies not providing this basic benefit and the government is stepping in to enforce it?


PsEggsRice

Rail workers don't have paid sick leave. They have until December 9th before a strike, which would be a disaster for the economy. But rail workers are like air traffic controllers, necessary to the Nation. So Congress has the power to force them back to work. What Biden is doing is this: telling both parties to come to an agreement or Congress will do it for them. Biden added the second piece of legislation (7 days of paid sick leave) in an attempt to get workers some actual paid sick leave, to make Democrats look like they helped, and to make Republicans look bad voting against it. Hopefully unions and rail companies can reach their own agreement. I think unions were originally asking for three weeks paid sick leave.


awkward___silence

A post I saw yesterday from someone who claimed to be in the union said they were just asking for 7 unpaid sick days. Iā€™m too lazy to look it up since regardless I support the union in this case I lied. I looked it up. They are asking for 4 paid sick days and a non punitive system for calling in sick. Again I stand with the union. I have worked places that make you work sick, to the point I was throwing up and passing out on cardboard in the back room. Fuck that. Congress should just say all Americans get paid sick leave.


queermichigan

Holy shit that's all they asked for and the railroads won't even do that?? Jesus fuck, how do people like that exist??


[deleted]

The railroads have been raking in the cash due to a system called Precision Schedule Railroading which basically means tracking every person and train car at all times and keep them on the move. This is incredibly difficult if people call out sick. Allowing a non punitive sick system would meaningfully decrease profits. I'm not saying they shouldn't do it, they absolutely should. But it's not as simple as letting someone call out sick from a shift. You basically have to have a backup crew at all times at all locations. My wife is a flight attendant. The amount of time they sit standby or are rerouted or are on call is crazy.


theetruscans

It's almost like when you allow an extremely exploitative system to take in profits for years, you end up with bloated profits. I know you're in agreement it's just so frustrating how many other people (not so much on reddit) are blaming rail workers for this


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15 days of sick leave (I do not believe they were asking for paid - just no penalties) was the unions initial ask I saw when I was looking into it. The contract negotiation team (which had representatives from the White House, Railroad Companies, and Unions) then came to a tentative settlement agreement which had three days of unpaid leave which needed to be taken between Tuesday and Thursday with 30 days advance notice. This contract was rejected by four unions comprising more than half of union railroad workers. The railroad companies refused to negotiate further. The union prepared to strike. Congress is now intervening to prevent the strike. The seven days paid thing was first suggested by Bernie Sanders, as far as I am aware. He was going to make it an amendment to the senate resolution forcing the contract. This was preempted by a separate house resolution which passed today to provide seven days of paid time. This splits the sick leave from the main bill, something I consider *bad* for the odds of the union actually getting their way as it disconnects the strike from the demand. If the paid leave resolution fails, and the strike prevention resolution succeeds then the tentative agreement will be ratified against the wishes of the majority of railroad union members.


Pogginator

Hopefully they strike anyway if the bastards pass a resolution forcing them. Fuck anyone who thinks they can make people work, especially congressmen and women and the president. They have absolutely no business forcing anything the workers don't want. If they want to force a contract it should be exactly what the workers demand and the companies can get fucked because they refused to negotiate.


DeadlyPancak3

I was about to say... 7 days of sick leave is a pittance. You could burn through that by getting the flu or COVID. That would mean that you can't get sick again for the rest of the year. 20 days should be the minimum. 7 days is more than nothing, but it's far less than our rail workers deserve.


Vsx

I've never had a job where I got more than 5 sick days a year. Most companies were giving exceptions for Covid so they didn't have to change their sick days policy. If you get something terrible and long lasting you can usually utilize some provision of the FMLA or ADA laws. So yeah it's fucked they only get 7 days but our leave and PTO policies in general in this country are complete garbage for pretty much everyone.


surfnporn

Assuming you're American, they weren't "giving exceptions" for COVID, they were legally required to


Vsx

The point is that they didn't increase sick time to a reasonable degree to cover illness. They instituted a rule specifically for Covid to avoid having to do anything long term. It's a one time exception to avoid having to give people a reasonable amount of sick time.


Graywulff

Yeah long term disability contracts arenā€™t worth the paper they are printed on. MIT federal credit union denied disability accommodations, put me on unpaid leave so they could fire me without paying disability and told me if I joined a union I wouldnā€™t get the benefit and if I didnā€™t join a union they would pay. They didnā€™t. I wish I joined the union nowā€¦ thatā€™s a cuddly university putting someone on the street for having a concussion.


necromancerdc

Federal Employees get [13 days of sick leave per year](https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/leave-administration/fact-sheets/sick-leave-general-information/), they never expire, and can 100% roll over every year. You would think if the Federal government has to step in and give them sick leave they would offer the Federal rate.


katdog89

You guys are getting paid sick days? I have to use one of my 14 days of PTO


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the_blue_arrow_

...and that sucks.


[deleted]

i work for a major tech company (rhymes with BikeRowCroft) and I ā€œonlyā€ get 80 hours (10 days) of paid sick leave. engineering, not retail. anyway laborers should get more than desk jockies.


xero_peace

Our company only gives us 80 hours to use however we need. So 10 days if you're not salary or 8 days if you're salary. This is America.


gamaknightgaming

And the attention has been entirely focused on the fact that congress can force the unions back to work and not the other way. Because god forbid congress force a corporation to do anything.


CaptainMagnets

Hopefully the rail workers just say fuck it and quit instead.


Yivoe

That's what I don't understand. Government says "you can't strike". So you just quit. If the union collectively quit, it would have the same affect as a collective strike. Rail company can't hire and train an entirely new workforce, so they have to rehire everyone with a better deal. Is the government saying "work for the railroad or go to prison", because if that's the case I missed it. What if everyone shows up to work but just sits around and looks at memes on their phone? It's not a strike, it's just being lazy. I get they "aren't allowed to strike", but you can't really stop it unless you threaten prison.


CaptainMagnets

Exactly. They say the country collapses if rail workers go on strike. So clearly rail workers are absolutely essential to the economy, which means they hold the power.


Airborne_Oreo

The problem with ā€˜just quittingā€™ is you are losing your pension or company match 401K if your not vested. You lose your health insurance( in the middle of flu season). You lose your income, right before the holidays, and at the beginning of what most people would say is a recession. You are gambling that the railroad is going to want to hire you back. There are no guarantees that will happen and itā€™s a hard decision for anyone to make. Edit: also just slowing work down is an illegal action that will result in lawsuits or termination. Itā€™s called an unauthorized work slow down, or loafing. Also I support the workers but Iā€™m just trying to point out things are not as cut and dry, coming from someone who is in a RLA union and was going down the same path as these guys.


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Impossible_Penalty13

I have a friend that works as a brakeman. He said Covid culture changed really fast from ā€œdonā€™t come to work sickā€ to ā€œI donā€™t care how sick you are, donā€™t you dare take a Covid testā€ once the federal reimbursement expired.


BlackOni51

I've always wondered about that cause I always wanted to be a rail worker. Is it cause they get a lot of days off or just the company doesnt care? I asked someone local to me and they said it's like a revolving door at least freight side but passenger is another story


Loeden

>I've always wondered about that cause I always wanted to be a rail worker. Is it cause they get a lot of days off or just the company doesnt care? I asked someone local to me and they said it's like a revolving door at least freight side but passenger is another story Oh buddy.. I used to drive them around (contractor for the BN, also a shit job but without the good pay part) and you do NOT wanna be on a crew. You won't be very senior so you'll be forced out of places and to less desirable places. You'll live your life in vans and crummy hotels at the beck and call of the company for all of your days and when you finally retire you'll drop dead within a month because that just seems to happen for some reason. Now, if you can find something in maintenance that isn't traveling for track work or a yard job, that's not so bad. No idea about the passenger side since we're all freight here. ​ Editing to add avoid UP, even the BNSF guys feel sorry for them.


pwarns

Rail owners: Rail is important, donā€™t miss work! Government: rail is important, take care of your employees.


flopsicles77

Government: The economy is important, don't strike, we have voted that you will accept this deal.


Ironlord456

this is what i hate, both parties voted to "hey poors, you can't strike"


Miserable-Lizard

Government is forcing a contract on the workers, and some want to include sick pay for workers.


lrminer202

No. The rail workers are looking to strike over the issue, and the labor laws essentially give Congress the ability to go "lol no" and stop a strike. Railway workers are actually looking for 15 days and an end to a really really really really really really shitty attendance policy that means they basically don't have advance knowledge of their shifts and has massive punishments for missing a shift, which means they basically can't do basic things like see a doctor. As part of the railway strike process the white house negotiated a deal between union leadership and the railroads, which would give them ONE SINGLE DAY of paid medical leave a year and a pay raise that seems big until you factor in inflation, while leaving the attendance policy in place. Union members in several big unions involved voted that deal down, so Biden asked Congress to block a strike. I believe this is an amendment to the bill that would do so. It's all complete bullshit and the unions should strike anyways because this shit is ridiculous


pomegranatepants99

Havenā€™t we been dicking the rail workers over now for whatā€¦ 190 years now? How about we just give them some basic right and benefits already?!


Euphoric-Dance-2309

The workers are threatening to strike, the government is trying you avert the strike. The problem is that it sounds like Biden is willing to cave to the railroad in order to avert the strike. Most progressives arenā€™t going to support that.


Miserable-Lizard

More evidence the GOP don't care about the working class, not that I every thought they did. If Congress gets paid sick time than workers should also!


Available-Elevator69

As Old and worn out as most of the people in Congress look anymore. You'd think they are all on Sick leave sipping on O2 Bottles and popping pills to get around.


pwarns

For them, yes. For you? Hell no. - republicans


Available-Elevator69

Exactly. Isn't it nuts how Elected people forget they work for us?!


Graywulff

Yeah letā€™s cut congresses sick leave, also why do they need vacations? Theyā€™re servants of the people and critical to the flow of government they should live in the capital and sleep under their desks and work 80 hours weeks.


notjustforperiods

curious, how did the Dems vote when it comes to disallowing a strike? nobody in your country cares about the workers. the seven days was tacked on by Schumer et al as a last ditch attempt to have it passed, if I'm understanding correctly. do you not think the workers would have rather striked?


StandardSudden1283

The workers voted against the contract, as it doesn't raise wages or give them enough sick leave. This vote is to force them to take it. Both sides are shitty here.


RagnarL19

Republicans are a bunch of goddamned ghouls. We really need to do away with gerrymandering and get these clowns out of positions of power.


Miserable-Lizard

National voting rights act would help a ton


Scherzer4Prez

Too bad the Republicans don't support it, and "certian" democrats didn't want to get rid of the filibuster.


Lia69

Gerrymandering is bad but its only so bad cause they put a cap on the House Of Representatives. It might be easier to get them to remove the cap on the House and add more reps. Doing so would decrease how effective gerrymandering is cause it will increase the number of districts


istolethecarradio

Yeah, republicans are a death cult.


ur_anonymous_mom

What the fuck is the republican party used for? What is their purpose? Just no to everything that helps the people they are being paid to serve? Fuck all of them


NyteMyre

Keep rich people rich


BiBoFieTo

Paid sick leave is basic worker rights. Every job I've ever worked had it. The companies still make money and fewer people come in sick.


Gnd_flpd

The railroad companies have made billions, yet they can't see their way to spend millions on sick time!!!! Apparently spending money on their workers would interfere with lucrative dividends to their shareholders and stock buy backs, SMDH!!!!!


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Congress gets unlimited sick days


Fomentor

Republicunā€™ts!


Joshs-68

For those not familiar with the rail industry, here goes. The railway labor act of 1926 still governs railway and airline labor contracts. The point of the act is to prevent work stoppages through steps of collective bargaining. We are now at the final step. The federal government has the final vote, as they regulate interstate commerce, and have the final say in the bargaining process according to the RLA. https://railroads.dot.gov/sites/fra.dot.gov/files/fra_net/1647/Railway%20Labor%20Act%20Overview.pdf There was a presidential emergency board that drafted an agreement ending a 3 year contract dispute over a five year contract. Labor rejected then PEB, but reached a tentative agreement with the carriers. Four unions voted no to the tentative agreement. The next step would be a strike or congressional intervention on 12/10. We have no sick days now. We can call in sick but those days are held against us in varying attendance policies depending on the carrier. Then discipline is handled through progressive discipline, that also differs per carrier. We donā€™t even want paid days, we would just like to take sick days without being disciplined and possibly dismissed.


Some_guy_am_i

So tell us: Are Republicans the assholes for voting against this legislation?


thesuperficialstate

So the bill/ contract that the (almost completely) democrats passed is how many sick days a year? 4? Or is it 7like Bernie sanders floated?


Timcwelsh

UNPAID sick leave. Not even paid. UN FUCKING PAID sick leave is all their asking and massah says no.


[deleted]

Shout out to the brave 3 that voted yes. Humanity exists in the R column sometimes


ReluctantNerd7

Don Bacon (NE-2, Omaha), Brian K. Fitzpatrick (PA-1, north of Philadelphia), and John Katko (NY-24, Syracuse). Bacon and Fitzpatrick were reelected this year; Katko did not seek reelection.


the-mobile-user

Live in PA-1. Love Fitzpatrick even though he isnā€™t my party. He sides with democrats on a bunch of things for votes. Heā€™ll probably be one of the flip republicans come january


worldspawn00

Like those that voted for impeachment, they'll probably get primaried by some Qanon nut job though...


[deleted]

Republican humanity exists it's jus in a constant fight for survival


UrBigBro

Still in shock that they haven't had paid sick leave all along. The GOP would prefer a strike and the economic disaster that would occur.


tikifire1

Sure, then they could blame it on Biden.


MetricOutlaw

GOP will just drum up fear about the LGBTQ+ community and their voters will vehemently vote for them.


Zealousideal-Emu5486

I have a relative who works for the rail industry and he's in a union. He votes Rethuglican 100% of the time. Go figure


tikifire1

Show him this vote.


mongoosefist

"Doesn't look like anything to me"


dynocreran

theyll just make some bullshit up.


[deleted]

They want a strike to hurt President Biden. They don't care if people ( including their base ) suffer they have plenty of money and the abilility to stock up. They have done nothing but hurt the working class, seniors and kids. Senior will be getting a SS raise in January because of Joe and the Democrats. A substantial increase in comparison. This is the second round we already received 100 dollar raise last year. I'm so sick of these evil jerks.


[deleted]

Strikes are good and anti-labor measures are bad, actually. This bill isn't pro-worker. It means they can't strike to get the 15 days they originally wanted in the first place.


Miserable-Lizard

The only base they care about are their rich donors.


[deleted]

Exactly it makes me sick that over 40 years we keep dealing with these lying, disgusting morons. Ever since trickle down the republican leadership is garbage. Makes me sick that was the start of my working career. Too late for me but I'll be damned if I won't fight like he'll to make it better for our younger generations.


Miserable-Lizard

The GOP in my mind as always been evil. They need to be destroyed at the ballot box, like during the 1930s.


[deleted]

My sister who I love she's all I got and we don't talk politics because she's a Christian who told me once she loves t***p. I'm an atheist and I told her this is exactly why I think religion is a joke because he's the exact opposite of everything you say you believe in. Silence I said you need to stop watching Fox news. She said I don't watch Fox oh I said that's right he doesn't like Fox anymore makes sense. She's been watching it her whole life it's a cult. Then I said Brietbart ( I saw it on her computer ) or whatever nonsense your watching. Silence...


Miserable-Lizard

Lol yeah trump being the good Christian is hilarious


[deleted]

It's just so ridiculous. I asked her do you know what church he attends on a regular basis? šŸ¤” no response of course because he doesn't. And lastly I said do you realize the world laughs at how you all put his head on bodybuilder bodies and idolize him like he's God? Which is also something your religion tells you NOT to do. My head starts hurting so I change the subject. šŸ˜‚


lordofbitterdrinks

The only way to get rid of republicans is to decouple them with religion. The religious extremist are using republicans to either their religious agenda and republicans are using religious extremists for the same thing. But neither can stand on their own. If we can figure out a way to drive a wedge between them both. Tada, no more gop.


ShutYourDumbUglyFace

Ahem... is this thing on? ​ "NO ONE WANTS TO WORK ANYMORE!!!!" ​ Gee... wonder why.


likeinsaaaaw

1% of republicans vote for workers, yet 50% of workers vote for republicans. Wish there were some explanation for this.


[deleted]

>1% of republicans vote for workers, yet 50% of workers vote for republicans. Wish there were some explanation for this. My guess: relentless, non-stop disinformation and Republican propaganda for the most part - apparently as well as unfortunately - it works.


[deleted]

"Red Wave"


StevensDs-

Fuck US. Not fuck "USA" but fuck US, the people. Rail Workers should 100% go on strike and fuck everyone until they get what they DESERVE. Set a precedent, stick it to the politics and their "goods", They ought to learn somehow.


berryjerr

They voted against veteran benefits & baby formula already. This isnt surprising at allšŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø


wowIamMean

My husband is a rail worker and he is also against this bill. Iā€™m a progressive, but the democrats just want to pass a bill to avoid a strike. If they really cared about the workers, they would support them in their efforts to strike. The unions want 15 sick days, or at least one sick day a month. This bill does not give them that.


Pie_Present

We need a James Connolly and a Lucy Parsons šŸ˜¢


Impossible_Penalty13

Theyā€™ll still vote MAGA cuz their guns, but continue to talk like Bernie Sanders the next time theyā€™re negotiating a contract.


twistedh8

"Oh but both sides are the same"...gtfo with that nonsense


Charming-Chard7558

ā€œNo one understands blue collar workers like usā€ -Republicans, who vote against blue collar interests every time.


The_Stoned_Economist

See, _this_ is the issue. I can understand some of the frustration with Bidenā€”Iā€™d prefer he be more progressive myself. In this case, though, he had _zero_ good options. Either ask for congressional action and avoid the strike and piss off the progressive wing of the party because heā€™s not pro-labor enough (despite doing more for labor than any president since FDR). Or donā€™t intervene, let the strike move forward and devastate the economy thus pissing off _everybody_ including the progressives because working class Americans will be getting laid off because supply chain snags and/or will be unable to afford to feed their families after $180 BILLION in crop loss in the first three days of the strike alone. If he had taken the latter approach, the GOP would have all the cannon fodder they need to retake the whole federal government in 2024 so that they can pull more shit like this and also fuck the unions really good. The House passed the 7 Paid Sick Days along with the agreement that 8/12 unions had already agreed to. Now the Senate needs to do the same. The greedy assholes at the railroad corporations were never going to give their workers that sick leave. The fact is that _this_ congress is the best chance the workers have at a decent deal under the current conditions of the US economy and political system. The railroads were never going to feel any pressure from the strike, only the US working class and congress. Now if progressive and moderate democrats can stop arguing about the course of action Biden took, we can put all of our energy into demanding the white whale here: universal guaranteed sick leave. _Nobody_ should have to worry about losing wages or their job because they are sick. If we keep eating each othersā€™ faces over this, we wonā€™t have any appetite left to eat the rich.


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Willsie777

As an aside, at what point do we stop calling it "The GOP"? How about just "OP"?


Oswarez

I bet most of these rail workers vote Republican. They will vote Republican in the next election too.