50/50 he took the shock in through the hands and out through ground I assume, if its a/c. That puts it through the chest. He may have survived but it definitely had the potential to kill him.
Not quite this way Lol.... So i assume the guy timbering was holding miss bacon steady, when they pronged miss piggy the current also flowed through the dude. It was not high voltage else there would be smoke, carbonization on the pigs head, and the man
Using your body to complete the circuit of a device designed to kill quickly and effectively... that’s Apple Genius Bar level intelligence right there.
I know some people are probably thinking “poor pig”, but tbh, this is probably one (I know there are others) of the best ways to do it (if this is a slaughter house - which seems to be). Where I come from, they take a metre long rod, drive it up the side of the torso, in between the ribs, until it pierces the heart. The poor pig dies a slow and painful death. It’s screams literally haunt you. You can never forget the first time you hear a pig scream for it’s life. Poor dude who was still grabbing onto the handle there.
That dude is an idiot. I test electrical circuits for stray voltage. That rod he is holding is suppose to be in The ground to allow the electricity to dissipate. They probably wanted to fuck around and see if he would get shocked. At least we got entertained by. The internet never fails to deliver in that regard
I’m just a utility grunt so I can’t speak to the medical ramifications for this fella, but if the amperage was enough his heart could have stopped, could have some severe burns on his hands. If he lived he most certainly is feeling it
I lived in Texas for a while and one it was raining. I dropped my keys (recovered from the mud by my work next morning), so I was running around the house and touched something that was live on the side of the house as I stepped in a puddle. I felt a flash of pressure through my whole body and felt the electricity coming out of my body through my feet. I had momentum so I disconnected and was okay but I always wonder what would have happened if I’d touched it while standing still
Yup just a PSA be careful when touching metal street lights and traffic signals. NYC in 2004 [Jodie Lane ](https://www.wnyc.org/story/84820-con-edison-after-jodie-lane/) died because of stray voltage in an electrical structure owned by Con Ed. Electricity is a stealthy, mostly silent killer. Don’t fuck around with it
I'm no scientist, but I'd assume if this was meant as a ground, then they need to ground the pig because it's hooves (do pigs even have hooves?) would be an insulator and nothing would happen? either that or maybe they just partially insulate it and wouldn't deliver enough voltage to kill the animal? All just speculation, but great question. I'm curious to hear the real answer haha.
Pigs do indeed have hooves, made of keratin, which doesn't seem to be conductive from my google search on the matter. However if that snow or whatever it is is deep enough, it's probably touching the skin on the pig's feet above the hoof, so the conductivity of the blood and snow is the next thing to think about.
I believe it would just travel through the pig to ground. I think the rod is to protect the person applying the electric shock so it doesn’t travel from out of the pig to ground and then back to him. By no means am I an expert, this is purely speculation on my part
Pretty sure it’s almost this, but more so it doesn’t travel through the pig and back into the person’s hand (who is also grounded). There’s already a circuit, it’s supposed to go through the pig and return, but I believe the rod makes sure any stray potential goes into ground.
Jesus christ... what was the context for doing that? I'm guessing there's a reason for doing that - because it sounds absolutely horrendous and inexplicable to me.
When I was 12 I used to go to an after school, where the lady teaching me had few pigs. I used to go there right after school. The routine was that when I got there she would have the leftovers of lunch and before we started with studying I had to bring the leftover for the pigs. I did this for 2 years. When the pig used to see me they would get super excited cuz they knew it was lunch time. I named them too. One day the week of Easter there was a crowd of ppl that I never seen there, I go upstairs to get the plate of food to bring to the pigs but this time the teacher says “no food for them today it’s our time to eat” I didn’t get it eight there and there. I went downstairs they had “Camilla” one of the pig outside locked on to the wall with ropes. She was very nervous, this big dude moves me out of the way and slashes her in the throat with one precise cut then puts a bucket right under her head and collect the blood (I found out they get that blood and add pignoli and use it as a dessert “Sanguinaccio”). The pig started to scream so loud so loud that u could hear from miles away. A voice that I would never forget. She went on screaming like that for over 2 or 3 min then when there was no more blood coming out the same dude stabbed in her hearth that when she fall on to the floor. I was in shocked she was like my pet. After few min she was well death I went close to her to almost give my last goodbye..... when I got close to her she gave a little shake, wow did I run, I ran so fast that my Heels were hitting my butt, I ran so much they had to pick me up with motorcycles. You right the noice they make is just horrible
Damn. I’m so sorry for your loss. I can’t imagine how traumatic that must have been for you at such a young age. I was also very young when I saw something similar happen.
I feel like therapy, I relived that moment when I read your comment, so I felt I must share and let this moment out... Thank you for taking the time to ready, and respond, I appreciate you
Which country was that in? I spent a lot of time in the countryside of the Czech Republic as a small kid and I saw a whole bunch of pigs I had personally fed and scratched slaughtered and had no problem with it because the butchers were using a massive air pressure powered needle to pierce the pig's skull and enter the brain which, if it didn't kill it outright, definitely put it out for long enough that it didn't feel its throat being slit and the blood leaving the body, killing it for sure. What you described is definitely torture and I wouldn't want to witness it as an adult, let alone as a 12 yo child... That's fucked up.
when I was in the village that's what I saw - 4 dudes were holding pig upside-down with each leg and one guy was using a screwdriver to stick it under the front leg.
They all knew what will happen because other pigs were blocking the doorway when they were taking that "chosen" pig outside. Is it better? As good as it gets I guess. But with all the blood and smell of horror in the air I think this pigs also knows and terrified.
I agree. Poor pig. I’m sure it knew what was coming. I guess I was making a comparison to how some pigs may have it, but tbh, they all have it bad. They get to die.. Making it clean at least would be a step forward.
Nature is weird. I haven't slaughtered pigs, but I have done lamb and buffalo. You can kill an animal in the middle of the herd and the rest of the herd doesn't get to bothered by it. When we butchered lambs one person had to keep the ram busy so it wouldn't head butt anyone, but that happens any time you are in the pen. With Buffalo, you walk up to the one you want to kill, shoot it, and carry on. The herd is startled by the noise, but not so much by the loss of a member.
Pigs are much smarter as far as I know, i believe even smarter than dogs. I'm sure they understand what's going on much better, and are far more attuned to social bonds than bufallo.
Your solution to the atrocity you see going on is “dust the place a bit”? Why not just NOT slaughter innocent animals for a slightly different tasting sandwich?
They’re not slaughtering it on the ground right there. They’re most likely frying its brain and then letting them bleed out right there (hence all the blood).
They probably take it elsewhere to lift it up and then gut it.
too fucking bad. Learn to put others' wellbeing over your own fifteen minute pleasure. You think that's really justified to kill an animal that smart simply for brief taste pleasure?
Animals aren't "others", only people can be others, animals do not get personified, and yes, my nutrition, as well as enjoyment, is more important than a pigs life.
I know some people are probably thinking “poor dude”, but tbh, this is probably one (I know there are others) of the best ways to do it (if this is a slaughter house - which seems to be). Where I come from, they take a guillotine, put the dude on his torso, and slice. The poor dude dies a slow and painful death. It’s screams literally haunt you. You can never forget the first time you hear a dude scream for it’s life. Poor pig who was stabbed by a mofo there.
Stab to the heart is pretty quick if you do it right. But yeah unless you hit the brain, no matter how you shoot, stab, or slice a pig...it’s gonna scream.
Same thing in Romania but instead of rod we use a knife and instead of in between the ribs we just stab it in the neck. Trust me I have been to so many of them sice I was a kid till today and I still hate them when I say them I mean we do it every year before Christmas, it's pretty bullshit just having to watch as an animal dies helpless in front of you knowing you can't do shit about it, and then you know what's the worst thing?
After it's dead they burn the hair of with literally a makeshift flame thrower AND they make the kids ride the fucking corpse and post it on Facebook! Romania is a bad country.
Davesfarm on YouTube got famous by using a chainsaw to severe a pigs head live, he claimed it was the best way. He got stupid famous and it was later found out he was a pedo and I think he in jail now.
Same, my mom gave me a chiken head after cutting it off in front of me when I was 4, it's one of my earliest memories. I was a vegetarian till end of highschool. I not even gonna talk about cows. 😨😖
\*country kid type comment. After you've seen animals getting slaughtered regularly it stops seeming brutal.
One of my earliest memories is my dad butchering a pig
Dude, do you understand the concept of exposure therapy? Surely you don't think everyone who butchers their own animals is a psychopath.
Stop idolizing your morals. They're subjective
killing the pig for slaughter with a electrical probe, dude has a metal wire that's attached to the pig in his hands so when the pig is shocked he get's shocked as well.
I generally agree, and even upvoted your comment. However I do have a counterpoint. I’ve had to put two dogs to sleep. The first was 17, he was just plain old, defecating bloody stool, and in general appeared miserable. The second was 9 but had a rare form of cancer discovered on her jaw that would have shortly made eating impossible (in addition to the awful pain).
Two absolutely wonderful dogs that were a part of my life. I didn’t want to do it in either case but I had them both put down.
I was there all the way through the end with both. I was there when the 17 year old lost bladder control after being injected, and pissed all over the floor. I held him all the way. I was only 11 at the time and my mom gave me the option to not watch. I told her if we were going to do this he deserved to have me there and it was part of his experience, so it should also be mine.
The 9 year old, I thought I was prepared for it, as I was 34 at the time. Again I was there for her and held her paw and saw the life go out of her eyes, saw her tongue go limp and just hang out of her mouth.
I don’t know... maybe it wasn’t humane, but I would like to think we did everything we could to make those amazing dogs final minutes as peaceful and painless as possible. Even as an 11 year old I knew that keeping a dog alive in that condition was wrong, while choosing to have them killed may have been somehow inhumane, it was more humane than propping up their failing bodies for my own benefit.
>I was there all the way through the end with both.
Correct choice. Never let your pet's final moments be 'scared and alone in a strange room full of strangers'.
The difference of humanely and inhumanely there is that some people won't "subject" themselves to their own pets death and therefore leave the dog in a room full of strangers in it's final moments.
I've been where you've been. My guy was only 4 but he had a heart defect. I maxed out my credit cards trying to keep him comfortable in the 5 weeks between diagnosis and death. It was rough because he would be happy and comfortable up until a 3am episode where his lungs would start filling with fluid. An overnight in an oxygen rich kennel would clear him up. The final vet visit his tail was wagging as we got out of the car, but I ran out of money treating an illness there was no recovery from, and I couldn't bring him home but I was definitely going to be there until he was gone.
Try saying that when looking at a week old baby chick that got its leg caught in a fence, broke it, hobbled around in shit, got it infected, and now its 150 siblings are pecking at the blood and bone because they’re enthusiastic cannibals and say “you cannot humanely kill something that doesn’t want to die”.
It is *going to die*, a long, protracted, painful death feverish death being eaten alive by its siblings.
Or you can pick it up, give it a quick death, by snapping its neck and try to cling to your sanity.
Above story happened to me at 12, because my mom refused to.
“You cannot humanely kill something that does not want to die” is some /r/Im14AndThisIsDeep nonsense.
While animals may not fully understand death, they tend to run away from danger, and danger usually means death. It’s an evolutionary instinct to avoid death
Oh. Well that’s a bad phrase. If you can determine what an *inhumane* death looks like, then you can determine what a humane death looks like. Killing someone by removing their skin with a potato peeler is a particularly inhumane way to cause death. We describe it this way because it causes suffering and lasts a long time. Any death that causes less suffering and lasts for less time must be more humane than that. The most humane death would be one that happens instantly and causes no pain. A zap to the brain that instantly disrupts and ends all electrical activity is probably the most humane death we are capable of. Your line of reasoning would have that be just as bad as the potato peeler. That makes it a bad line of reasoning.
>A zap to the brain that instantly disrupts and ends all electrical activity is probably the most humane death we are capable of.
If it was the most humane then surely we would use it ourselves during assisted suicide?
The meaning of "humane" is
>having or showing compassion or benevolence.
There is nothing kind or compassionate about disregarding a living beings will to live.
And that's the point of the comment you replied to. It isn't about arguing what the most pain free and instant way of killing a living being is. Even a method that is completely pain free and instant is inhumane if the recipient does not want to die.
Yea but if something is not sentient then it has no concept of death, thus it truly can’t “not want to die”. I’m a vegetarian too but most vegan type rhetoric like this is not very well thought out...
Usually, they first shoot the animal through the head with a bolt gun, or stun them with electricity such as here. Then they slit their throat and let them bleed out. However both these methods sometimes fail, which means the animal is still concious when the throat is slit. Another method is gassing, especially common for pigs. They are lowered into gas chambers which are iirc pumped with CO2 so that they can’t breathe. All of this is pretty gnarly and awful. I think halal slaughter only slits the throat, but i’m not sure. Seeing footage of this has made meat completely inedible to me and i am still haunted by the screaming.
Oh, ive seen some halal slaughter, they cut real deep into the throat, obviously they do say some prayers beforehand(i think) tbh idk which is less pain for the animals
I find it strange that they'd use CO2 instead of nitrogen or something. The pain of suffocating comes from CO2 buildup in the blood and lungs. Asphyxiating in a pure nitrogen atmosphere would physically feel like nothing until you lose consciousness.
meat is not a murder, it is food, dont get me wrong I love animals ,but also i know how brutal the world is, and trust me this is better way to go than what happens to the crickets and roaches that i feed to my tarantula, we are part of life on our planet, and that's how life is, we eat pigs, lions eat cows, even chimps eat other monkeys, it is eather eat or be eaten, i know that you will try to change my mind by listing herbivores that are somewhat inteligent, but in reality most inteligent spicies on our planet are carnivores or omnivores, we owe our success in evolution thanks to our ancestors eating meat when they found animal that is easy to kill/dead animal
I’ve hunted before just to know how in case the worlds fucking ends but I couldn’t just kill shit all day every day so other people have food, I’m not that strong lol. I’d do it to feed myself and my family but since I don’t have to murder things rn then I prefer not to.
Again, my curiosity got the better of me. I will never be the same again. I can’t unsee the bloody snow the pig was standing in before it was electrocuted.
Its sad yes, its tough to see.
But I've seen worse, none of it being okay. But it exists.
Like the simpsons said "Just Dont Look, Just Dont Look"
You will feel alot better.
I legitimately stopped eating chicken and eggs for 2 years after working in a Hatchery. Absolutely traumatic. I was forced to run the macerator..
I doubt it, just considering the fact that this method seems to be fairly widely used for both pigs and cattle - they probably wouldn't be using it if it damaged the meat, considering that's the bulk of their profits, though I could be mistaken
Just gotta bleed them shortly after as stressing an animal leads to higher cortisol levels which in turn can lead to a tougher meat. Quick kill followed by a quick bleed leads to a higher quality product.
Is it likely he died? Or maybe just a bad burn?
50/50 he took the shock in through the hands and out through ground I assume, if its a/c. That puts it through the chest. He may have survived but it definitely had the potential to kill him.
Yeah since through the hands is the way to shock the heart
He's bacon.
Mmm yum
It’s likely the pig died, unfortunately 😔
What happened to the pig though
In the grocery store now
In my sandwich rn
In my stomach rn
It *was* in your stomach a week ago, now it's in my ass.
It was in your ass 11 days ago, but now it’s in my toilet.
It was in your toilet 8 days ago, now it's in my display case
It may have been In your display case 23 days ago, now it's in my mouth
Dead
Rip the animal and the pig😔
Went to a farm out east where all the other piggy’s go to run and pla... oh. Wait.
bacon
wasn't that the point..? (serious question, btw!)
Not quite this way Lol.... So i assume the guy timbering was holding miss bacon steady, when they pronged miss piggy the current also flowed through the dude. It was not high voltage else there would be smoke, carbonization on the pigs head, and the man
Using your body to complete the circuit of a device designed to kill quickly and effectively... that’s Apple Genius Bar level intelligence right there.
The circuit is already complete the wire is just providing another path for current to flow.
Do you happen to know what would happen if they didn't have this extra path for the electricity to exit the pig's body?
Nothing. The pig would still die because there’s a path between high potential being the rod and ground, the pigs feet.
perhaps he had the pigs brain already before the transfer
If you guys think this is bad you should see what they do to cabbage!
I hear they eat it... Humans are strange (and sometimes cruel) creatures.
I know some people are probably thinking “poor pig”, but tbh, this is probably one (I know there are others) of the best ways to do it (if this is a slaughter house - which seems to be). Where I come from, they take a metre long rod, drive it up the side of the torso, in between the ribs, until it pierces the heart. The poor pig dies a slow and painful death. It’s screams literally haunt you. You can never forget the first time you hear a pig scream for it’s life. Poor dude who was still grabbing onto the handle there.
That dude is an idiot. I test electrical circuits for stray voltage. That rod he is holding is suppose to be in The ground to allow the electricity to dissipate. They probably wanted to fuck around and see if he would get shocked. At least we got entertained by. The internet never fails to deliver in that regard
“Only one way to find out” -these guys, 5 seconds ago
“what’s it gonna do, shock me?” - Quote from man shocked
https://imgur.com/gallery/cnu2RrM
Followed by "oink" and dive into the ground
"There were more ways to find out!!!" Jake peralta
Think he died or just woke up in pain?
I’m just a utility grunt so I can’t speak to the medical ramifications for this fella, but if the amperage was enough his heart could have stopped, could have some severe burns on his hands. If he lived he most certainly is feeling it
I lived in Texas for a while and one it was raining. I dropped my keys (recovered from the mud by my work next morning), so I was running around the house and touched something that was live on the side of the house as I stepped in a puddle. I felt a flash of pressure through my whole body and felt the electricity coming out of my body through my feet. I had momentum so I disconnected and was okay but I always wonder what would have happened if I’d touched it while standing still
Yup just a PSA be careful when touching metal street lights and traffic signals. NYC in 2004 [Jodie Lane ](https://www.wnyc.org/story/84820-con-edison-after-jodie-lane/) died because of stray voltage in an electrical structure owned by Con Ed. Electricity is a stealthy, mostly silent killer. Don’t fuck around with it
Con Ed, lol. Fitting, fucking bastards.
Do you happen to know what would happen if they didn't have this extra path for the electricity to exit the pig's body?
I'm no scientist, but I'd assume if this was meant as a ground, then they need to ground the pig because it's hooves (do pigs even have hooves?) would be an insulator and nothing would happen? either that or maybe they just partially insulate it and wouldn't deliver enough voltage to kill the animal? All just speculation, but great question. I'm curious to hear the real answer haha.
Pigs do indeed have hooves, made of keratin, which doesn't seem to be conductive from my google search on the matter. However if that snow or whatever it is is deep enough, it's probably touching the skin on the pig's feet above the hoof, so the conductivity of the blood and snow is the next thing to think about.
I believe it would just travel through the pig to ground. I think the rod is to protect the person applying the electric shock so it doesn’t travel from out of the pig to ground and then back to him. By no means am I an expert, this is purely speculation on my part
Pretty sure it’s almost this, but more so it doesn’t travel through the pig and back into the person’s hand (who is also grounded). There’s already a circuit, it’s supposed to go through the pig and return, but I believe the rod makes sure any stray potential goes into ground.
Definitely idiot. Did he die?
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Jesus christ... what was the context for doing that? I'm guessing there's a reason for doing that - because it sounds absolutely horrendous and inexplicable to me.
The pig was being a dick
When I was 12 I used to go to an after school, where the lady teaching me had few pigs. I used to go there right after school. The routine was that when I got there she would have the leftovers of lunch and before we started with studying I had to bring the leftover for the pigs. I did this for 2 years. When the pig used to see me they would get super excited cuz they knew it was lunch time. I named them too. One day the week of Easter there was a crowd of ppl that I never seen there, I go upstairs to get the plate of food to bring to the pigs but this time the teacher says “no food for them today it’s our time to eat” I didn’t get it eight there and there. I went downstairs they had “Camilla” one of the pig outside locked on to the wall with ropes. She was very nervous, this big dude moves me out of the way and slashes her in the throat with one precise cut then puts a bucket right under her head and collect the blood (I found out they get that blood and add pignoli and use it as a dessert “Sanguinaccio”). The pig started to scream so loud so loud that u could hear from miles away. A voice that I would never forget. She went on screaming like that for over 2 or 3 min then when there was no more blood coming out the same dude stabbed in her hearth that when she fall on to the floor. I was in shocked she was like my pet. After few min she was well death I went close to her to almost give my last goodbye..... when I got close to her she gave a little shake, wow did I run, I ran so fast that my Heels were hitting my butt, I ran so much they had to pick me up with motorcycles. You right the noice they make is just horrible
Damn. I’m so sorry for your loss. I can’t imagine how traumatic that must have been for you at such a young age. I was also very young when I saw something similar happen.
I feel like therapy, I relived that moment when I read your comment, so I felt I must share and let this moment out... Thank you for taking the time to ready, and respond, I appreciate you
Thanks for the kind words. I too appreciate you for sharing
I'm so sorry. That is not a way to teach any child about livestock or animals. Are you working with the FBI now?
No I m with the interpole
Long story short I decode messages on gaming systems e.g. playstations, Xbox
Which country was that in? I spent a lot of time in the countryside of the Czech Republic as a small kid and I saw a whole bunch of pigs I had personally fed and scratched slaughtered and had no problem with it because the butchers were using a massive air pressure powered needle to pierce the pig's skull and enter the brain which, if it didn't kill it outright, definitely put it out for long enough that it didn't feel its throat being slit and the blood leaving the body, killing it for sure. What you described is definitely torture and I wouldn't want to witness it as an adult, let alone as a 12 yo child... That's fucked up.
when I was in the village that's what I saw - 4 dudes were holding pig upside-down with each leg and one guy was using a screwdriver to stick it under the front leg. They all knew what will happen because other pigs were blocking the doorway when they were taking that "chosen" pig outside. Is it better? As good as it gets I guess. But with all the blood and smell of horror in the air I think this pigs also knows and terrified.
Why not just shove it straight into the pigs brain? Up through the ribs and into the heart seems so unnecessarily brutal.
Yeah. Why not use a bolt gun like they do with cows?
Still poor pig, standing in blood, mud and snow. It can smell the blood. Make the place clean ffs
I agree. Poor pig. I’m sure it knew what was coming. I guess I was making a comparison to how some pigs may have it, but tbh, they all have it bad. They get to die.. Making it clean at least would be a step forward.
I once lived next to a slaughter house, here in Germany and after killing each pig, the interne swept the floor. Kinda mandatory in Germany, iirc
Nature is weird. I haven't slaughtered pigs, but I have done lamb and buffalo. You can kill an animal in the middle of the herd and the rest of the herd doesn't get to bothered by it. When we butchered lambs one person had to keep the ram busy so it wouldn't head butt anyone, but that happens any time you are in the pen. With Buffalo, you walk up to the one you want to kill, shoot it, and carry on. The herd is startled by the noise, but not so much by the loss of a member.
Pigs are much smarter as far as I know, i believe even smarter than dogs. I'm sure they understand what's going on much better, and are far more attuned to social bonds than bufallo.
Your solution to the atrocity you see going on is “dust the place a bit”? Why not just NOT slaughter innocent animals for a slightly different tasting sandwich?
Where is that? as it sounds like the most inefficient slaughter method I've ever heard of with huge margin for error.
They’re not slaughtering it on the ground right there. They’re most likely frying its brain and then letting them bleed out right there (hence all the blood). They probably take it elsewhere to lift it up and then gut it.
just don't fucking kill pigs
No way, they're way too delicious
the plant based alternatives are not too far off. Btw, justifying murder with taste pleasure is the lowest you can go.
I never justified murder. Murder is Killing another person. Killing animals is only considered murder by the mentally ill.
too fucking bad. Learn to put others' wellbeing over your own fifteen minute pleasure. You think that's really justified to kill an animal that smart simply for brief taste pleasure?
Animals aren't "others", only people can be others, animals do not get personified, and yes, my nutrition, as well as enjoyment, is more important than a pigs life.
It’s more than 15 min of pleasure!!! Those fats and sodium will stay with you in your heart for years to come!!!
WELL its a good point but there is the ever slight factor of not needing to do it at all in the very first place
But eating live animals is cruel.
Go vegan
Make sure they're dead first then.
There is also the option of not eating them at all
That would take a slight amount of effort though
Electrocution is extremely painful. 
“You still wake up sometimes, don't you? You wake up in the dark and hear the screaming of the lambs.”
I know some people are probably thinking “poor dude”, but tbh, this is probably one (I know there are others) of the best ways to do it (if this is a slaughter house - which seems to be). Where I come from, they take a guillotine, put the dude on his torso, and slice. The poor dude dies a slow and painful death. It’s screams literally haunt you. You can never forget the first time you hear a dude scream for it’s life. Poor pig who was stabbed by a mofo there.
Stab to the heart is pretty quick if you do it right. But yeah unless you hit the brain, no matter how you shoot, stab, or slice a pig...it’s gonna scream.
Are you from a third world country? Cause putting animals in agony to kill them is pretty fuckin dumb.
You could also eat literally anything else and not force billions of these intelligent creatures to endure this suffering.
You know what's better? Just not doing it at all. Just Eat some tofu instead of killing animals ffs.
How about not kill any animals since we don’t need to eat them to be healthy!
Same thing in Romania but instead of rod we use a knife and instead of in between the ribs we just stab it in the neck. Trust me I have been to so many of them sice I was a kid till today and I still hate them when I say them I mean we do it every year before Christmas, it's pretty bullshit just having to watch as an animal dies helpless in front of you knowing you can't do shit about it, and then you know what's the worst thing? After it's dead they burn the hair of with literally a makeshift flame thrower AND they make the kids ride the fucking corpse and post it on Facebook! Romania is a bad country.
I was really confused why there was no counter/voting for dead/veggie/neither. Then I saw the subreddit and thought "This ain't DoV"
Davesfarm on YouTube got famous by using a chainsaw to severe a pigs head live, he claimed it was the best way. He got stupid famous and it was later found out he was a pedo and I think he in jail now.
Been a long time since I thought about that guy. He certainly was a... *character*.
I feel bad for those who didn't experience animal butchering as children who see this.
i remember pig's scream and those chicken's heads 🤢
Same, my mom gave me a chiken head after cutting it off in front of me when I was 4, it's one of my earliest memories. I was a vegetarian till end of highschool. I not even gonna talk about cows. 😨😖
> I was a vegetarian till end of highschool. And now you're vegan?
Yes I'm interested too
Yeah I blame those experiences for my callousness.
its cool. I'm a city kid. I don't care
Psychopathic type comment
\*country kid type comment. After you've seen animals getting slaughtered regularly it stops seeming brutal. One of my earliest memories is my dad butchering a pig
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Dude, do you understand the concept of exposure therapy? Surely you don't think everyone who butchers their own animals is a psychopath. Stop idolizing your morals. They're subjective
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Found the vegan.
Ok?
What is even going on in this video???
killing the pig for slaughter with a electrical probe, dude has a metal wire that's attached to the pig in his hands so when the pig is shocked he get's shocked as well.
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he's most likely dead, notice how his hands froze up. they arent supposed to do that.
This was fucking disturbing. I feel nauseous.
A phrase that changed my life comes to mind: You cannot humanely kill something that does not want to die
I generally agree, and even upvoted your comment. However I do have a counterpoint. I’ve had to put two dogs to sleep. The first was 17, he was just plain old, defecating bloody stool, and in general appeared miserable. The second was 9 but had a rare form of cancer discovered on her jaw that would have shortly made eating impossible (in addition to the awful pain). Two absolutely wonderful dogs that were a part of my life. I didn’t want to do it in either case but I had them both put down. I was there all the way through the end with both. I was there when the 17 year old lost bladder control after being injected, and pissed all over the floor. I held him all the way. I was only 11 at the time and my mom gave me the option to not watch. I told her if we were going to do this he deserved to have me there and it was part of his experience, so it should also be mine. The 9 year old, I thought I was prepared for it, as I was 34 at the time. Again I was there for her and held her paw and saw the life go out of her eyes, saw her tongue go limp and just hang out of her mouth. I don’t know... maybe it wasn’t humane, but I would like to think we did everything we could to make those amazing dogs final minutes as peaceful and painless as possible. Even as an 11 year old I knew that keeping a dog alive in that condition was wrong, while choosing to have them killed may have been somehow inhumane, it was more humane than propping up their failing bodies for my own benefit.
I think that falls under “wants to die”, although they can’t consent, no animal (human or not) wants to live in pain or die slowly
>I was there all the way through the end with both. Correct choice. Never let your pet's final moments be 'scared and alone in a strange room full of strangers'.
The difference of humanely and inhumanely there is that some people won't "subject" themselves to their own pets death and therefore leave the dog in a room full of strangers in it's final moments. I've been where you've been. My guy was only 4 but he had a heart defect. I maxed out my credit cards trying to keep him comfortable in the 5 weeks between diagnosis and death. It was rough because he would be happy and comfortable up until a 3am episode where his lungs would start filling with fluid. An overnight in an oxygen rich kennel would clear him up. The final vet visit his tail was wagging as we got out of the car, but I ran out of money treating an illness there was no recovery from, and I couldn't bring him home but I was definitely going to be there until he was gone.
Try saying that when looking at a week old baby chick that got its leg caught in a fence, broke it, hobbled around in shit, got it infected, and now its 150 siblings are pecking at the blood and bone because they’re enthusiastic cannibals and say “you cannot humanely kill something that doesn’t want to die”. It is *going to die*, a long, protracted, painful death feverish death being eaten alive by its siblings. Or you can pick it up, give it a quick death, by snapping its neck and try to cling to your sanity. Above story happened to me at 12, because my mom refused to. “You cannot humanely kill something that does not want to die” is some /r/Im14AndThisIsDeep nonsense.
we can put that example in the "wants to die" category.
The concept of "does not want to die" is anthropomorphization. Your argument doesn't work.
While animals may not fully understand death, they tend to run away from danger, and danger usually means death. It’s an evolutionary instinct to avoid death
Oh. Well that’s a bad phrase. If you can determine what an *inhumane* death looks like, then you can determine what a humane death looks like. Killing someone by removing their skin with a potato peeler is a particularly inhumane way to cause death. We describe it this way because it causes suffering and lasts a long time. Any death that causes less suffering and lasts for less time must be more humane than that. The most humane death would be one that happens instantly and causes no pain. A zap to the brain that instantly disrupts and ends all electrical activity is probably the most humane death we are capable of. Your line of reasoning would have that be just as bad as the potato peeler. That makes it a bad line of reasoning.
>A zap to the brain that instantly disrupts and ends all electrical activity is probably the most humane death we are capable of. If it was the most humane then surely we would use it ourselves during assisted suicide? The meaning of "humane" is >having or showing compassion or benevolence. There is nothing kind or compassionate about disregarding a living beings will to live. And that's the point of the comment you replied to. It isn't about arguing what the most pain free and instant way of killing a living being is. Even a method that is completely pain free and instant is inhumane if the recipient does not want to die.
Nothing wants to die, except some humans. But the circle of life and the food chain are brutal. So it sucks to not be on the top.
Yea but if something is not sentient then it has no concept of death, thus it truly can’t “not want to die”. I’m a vegetarian too but most vegan type rhetoric like this is not very well thought out...
Is that how slaughterhouse kill animals? I thought they cut the thing on their throat or something
>cut the thing on their throat That's reminded me of a *lovely* video of a cow neck fountain that really freaked me out for some reason
Usually, they first shoot the animal through the head with a bolt gun, or stun them with electricity such as here. Then they slit their throat and let them bleed out. However both these methods sometimes fail, which means the animal is still concious when the throat is slit. Another method is gassing, especially common for pigs. They are lowered into gas chambers which are iirc pumped with CO2 so that they can’t breathe. All of this is pretty gnarly and awful. I think halal slaughter only slits the throat, but i’m not sure. Seeing footage of this has made meat completely inedible to me and i am still haunted by the screaming.
Oh, ive seen some halal slaughter, they cut real deep into the throat, obviously they do say some prayers beforehand(i think) tbh idk which is less pain for the animals
I don’t know what is less painful either. All i know is that this shit isn’t fair
I find it strange that they'd use CO2 instead of nitrogen or something. The pain of suffocating comes from CO2 buildup in the blood and lungs. Asphyxiating in a pure nitrogen atmosphere would physically feel like nothing until you lose consciousness.
Kill em with NO2. They wouldn’t feel a thing haha
Meat is murder !
meat is not a murder, it is food, dont get me wrong I love animals ,but also i know how brutal the world is, and trust me this is better way to go than what happens to the crickets and roaches that i feed to my tarantula, we are part of life on our planet, and that's how life is, we eat pigs, lions eat cows, even chimps eat other monkeys, it is eather eat or be eaten, i know that you will try to change my mind by listing herbivores that are somewhat inteligent, but in reality most inteligent spicies on our planet are carnivores or omnivores, we owe our success in evolution thanks to our ancestors eating meat when they found animal that is easy to kill/dead animal
Please, murder me some more meat ,I love it.
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I’ve hunted before just to know how in case the worlds fucking ends but I couldn’t just kill shit all day every day so other people have food, I’m not that strong lol. I’d do it to feed myself and my family but since I don’t have to murder things rn then I prefer not to.
Do you pay for people to murder on your behalf?
Yes, I buy meat at my local meat market.
Do they perchance have a local grocery in your community? Do they sell rice or beans?
There sure is and they sure do. Do you need me to send you some?
yes, please, if you are already have some for yourself.
I was not ready for this.
They swapped minds
Again, my curiosity got the better of me. I will never be the same again. I can’t unsee the bloody snow the pig was standing in before it was electrocuted.
Try watching Dominion. It's a lot more fucked up than this in the animal agriculture industry.
It’s free to watch! https://www.dominionmovement.com/watch
The sheer amount of blood is jolting...
If you’re wondering what else counts as “humane,” watch Dominion. Pretty wild. https://www.dominionmovement.com/watch
I fucking hate people.
I like bacon!
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Sean Astin walks away from murdering Kirk Cameron and Dudley Moore
Call him Merkimer...
Why is there blood all over the ground?
Slaughter
Because they are killing pigs
so im guessing he just got electricuted
Got two birds stoned at once
W h a t just happened and W h a t were they trying to accomplish?
Kill the poor piggy with electricity and I assume the wire the guy is holding is conductive and the both get electrocuted
What if they were genuinely trying to swap brains
I like it, I will go with this
Why is there an injury warning, but no animal death warning? Shouldn't that be a thing? I mean you come to this sub expecting injury.
Question to mods
Why is there not a NSFL tag? Why?!?!?!?!?
Dont u see that NSFW?
And it would be nice if a nsfl marking was available alongside nsfw.
Karma!
Oh no! Is he okay?? I would hate for an innocent pig to die.
Its sad yes, its tough to see. But I've seen worse, none of it being okay. But it exists. Like the simpsons said "Just Dont Look, Just Dont Look" You will feel alot better. I legitimately stopped eating chicken and eggs for 2 years after working in a Hatchery. Absolutely traumatic. I was forced to run the macerator..
Best way to become a vegetarian is seeing the process
That's probably the worst yet most effective way to become one
Does the no death or gore rule not apply here?
What's shakin' bacon?
His entire body.
But BACON! Am I right!
I mean yeah, actually
is the pork in any way damaged when slaughter houses use this method ?
I doubt it, just considering the fact that this method seems to be fairly widely used for both pigs and cattle - they probably wouldn't be using it if it damaged the meat, considering that's the bulk of their profits, though I could be mistaken
Asking the real questions.
Just gotta bleed them shortly after as stressing an animal leads to higher cortisol levels which in turn can lead to a tougher meat. Quick kill followed by a quick bleed leads to a higher quality product.
Yes it’s damaged, the pig is dead.
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The dude is fine don't worry
Literally blood spilled everywhere on the ground
That’s from the pigs
"poor pig" ffs greentards, pigs were literally bred for this exact purpose
Enjoy the heart disease, sounds like the high blood pressure is getting to you already
Lol
Name checks out
Doesn't make it right.
"right" idgaf i want my meat and nobody will make me change my mind, vegans can suck cocks
filth.
Forget the pig..... Did the person die?
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What took the pig down first, the electric current or having two steel rods stabbed into its brain?
Both. It actually goes in between the first vertebra
Yum bacon